SUSAN HEWETT She was born c1827 at Norwich. She is on the 1841 census with the family in Norwich. She married a WILLIAM TURNER on 17 April 1865 after Banns at St Philip Bethnal Green. William Turner is aged 40 yrs single works as a shoemaker and lives at Ramsey Street. His father is JOSEPH TURNER - White Smith Susan Hewett aged 38 yrs single no occupation listed of Ramsey Street. Her father is ROBERT HEWETT- weaver Witnesses: John and Emily Goodrick. Only William signs his name They had been living together before they married. They are on the 1861 census as married with a 3yr old son William. William Turner snr is from Norwich. (Les Hewett, Napier, NZ)

I'd like to know if anyone can find the Neri family on any census. Judith Charlotte Anne Neri was baptised in 1814 at St James Westminster, daughter of Patrick (gentleman) and Mary Anne , who had married in 1805. There were several other children of the marriage. It seems likely that they went to Europe at some time as Judith married in France about 1835, but using the name of Kennedy!! I don't know if her father had died and her mother remarried, or....? don't know why she was using another surname. What are the chances of finding a census in France or possibly Italy as they are said to have lived in Como at some time. Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: List Admin via Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:27 AM To: Middx Subject: [MDX] Home Fires Season's greetings If you have have any relatives or ancestors (WWI and before please) who you'd like to bring to sit around the home fire, please post what you know between now and 12th Night. These do not have to be people from within the list area during this period only. -- List Admin, Middx . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Jenny DeAngelis > > <<Try Alsace first then. It's on the French/German border. It would fit > with both your family story and with Eve's suggestion.>> For what it is worth, when he married, George could not write his name, but Charlotte could. The vicar has spelled out the surname very clearly indeed, presumably at Charlotte's dictation.* All the entries in that surname (bar one) are members of their family in 2-3 generations. George was registered as Moschellers when he died. IT was extraordianrily easy to become bankrupt, if you were in a trade providing goods to the gentry (and plaster modelling would have been aimed at fairly wealthy customers.) You had to give credit, they didn't pay, and if you chased them for money they bad-mouthed you to other potetnial clienmts. Plaster is dry, dusty stuff, needing copiuos draughts of liquid to keep the mouth and throat lubricated. George could have used water - but all the medical men were beginnibng to agree that water was not very safe in London, full of sewage fall-out. What was a man to do but drink beer? Not, presumably, that George would have regarded that as a hardship :-) * Was Mich- shell really Michelle with a hiccup in it? And (courtesy of 'The Genealogist' site,) I have found one non-descendant - a later Edward Michshel, in that very uncommon spelling, and he is living in St Pancras, a waiter at an inn, b 1878, and 'born Switzerland, Swiss' - so that is worth trying too. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

Hello Jeanette, To answer your query about the possibilities of finding a census return in France, the censuses there were conducted every 5 years from 1836 onwards (there are instances of census-like ones earlier - e.g. 1806, but most have not survived). However, these censuses ("recensements") are not kept centrally, but in each of the 100-odd départements (roughly similar to counties in the U.K.), so it is critical to have an idea of whereabouts to look ! The good news is that many of these are on-line, free of charge, as are birth marriage and death records. On the other hand, some records have been lost in some areas of France due to wartime destruction. I'm afraid I can't help about Italy - perhaps another lister can let you know. Good hunting, Michael Walsby On 30/12/2014 20:59, Jeanette deMontalk via wrote: > I'd like to know if anyone can find the Neri family on any census. Judith > Charlotte Anne Neri was baptised in 1814 at St James Westminster, daughter > of Patrick (gentleman) and Mary Anne , who had married in 1805. There were > several other children of the marriage. It seems likely that they went to > Europe at some time as Judith married in France about 1835, but using the > name of Kennedy!! I don't know if her father had died and her mother > remarried, or....? don't know why she was using another surname. What are > the chances of finding a census in France or possibly Italy as they are said > to have lived in Como at some time. > > Jeanette > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hi Paul, You are right, the SS in old records was often written as fs or sf, I can't recall offhand which way round the letters are placed in a word. The letter f being quite long and going down almost onto the line below. But I don't think this is the case with the name Hermesfred. The 1911 census entry for her household, where she is the head as a widow, she has written her name and also her signature as Hermesfred definitely the letter F. Looking again just now at the census entries I have for Hermesfred. I see that in the 1901 census under her married name of Chapman, she is a widow and the head of house with the first name of Elizabeth, I am sure this is Hermesfred because she has two of her daughters with her. All the women are of the right age and birth places compared to earlier records. As I wrote earlier, in the 1851 census at Fulham workhouse, there is an Elizabeth Meshel of the right age and I am sure this is Hermesfred. I have never found an Elizabeth Meshel/Michshel in the censuses in between 1851 and 1901. Nor have I found a baptism for such a person online, as I have the baptisms for all of George Fred's Michshel and wife Charlotte's children, including Hermesfred. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<I am sure seine will correct me but I thought that a "ss" in a word was written to look like "sf". Paul in Sydney>>

Hi Connie. I will do as you say and try Alsace. There is usually a tiny bit of truth in most family stories, even though they end up distorted. Thankyou Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<Try Alsace first then. It's on the French/German border. It would fit with both your family story and with Eve's suggestion.>>

HI Margaret, If you did find a record with George Frederick seniors birth place shown then I would be forever grateful. But I know that in the 1881 census George's son, also called George Frederick has a birth place that looks like it might be Paris. The image is very feint and almost impossible to read on the face of it. Maybe this is the record you have seen, but it is not for George F. senior but his son. Ref. RG11 piece 341 folio 15 page 23 St. Andrews Holborn I think what it should read as is Pancras. George Fred. junior was baptised at St George Bloomsbury in August 1834 along with his sister Mary Miranda on the same day. Later in 1843 the family must have been in the St. Pancras/Holloway area as Hermasfred was baptised ast St. Pancras Old church in the January her abode was given as Holloway at the time. Maybe George junior thought he too had been born and baptised in the same place because he remember he had lived there as a young boy. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<Jenny Hello, I have seen a record that stated Paris as Georges birth. Wish I had passed it on at the time. I will go back and see if I can find it again. Back to you, Margaret in New zealand>>

>George was registered as Moschellers when he died. From Wikipedia: (Isaac) Ignaz Moscheles (German: ?ig.nats ?m?.??.l?s) (23 May 1794[1] - 10 March 1870) was a Bohemian composer and piano virtuoso, whose career after his early years was based initially in London, and later at Leipzig, where he succeeded his friend and sometime pupil Felix Mendelssohn as head of the Conservatoire. Regards, John Moore

Vicki I can see the marriage on Free BMD in 1920 in Edmonton Middlesex this doesn't show on Ancestry London marriages unfortunately I can also see on Find My Past their departure from Southampton to Halifax 6 Aug 1923 Both these say CROFT. Can't see him on 1911 census Ordering the marriage certificate would confirm parents names. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Vicki Bristow Ferguson via Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 2:14 PM To: Middlesex_County_UK@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDX] Craft (Croft) family Hi everyone, I'm new to the list and researching the Craft and Towell (Towill) families. I'm having some difficulty locating census records for the family (Ancestry) over several years which is making it difficult to confirm some of the details I've gathered so far. Here are some names - if anyone has a link to or knowledge of these folks feel free to get in touch. John George Craft b 20 Dec 1889 Shoreditch, Middlesex, married Ethel Constance Towell b. about 1900 - I believe John's parents were William James Craft b 1856 Shoreditch & Susannah Pethers b 1859 Shoreditch - I think John's father was Alfred Charles Craft b 1828 Shoreditch, but having trouble confirming his mother but I believe her first name was Elizabeth. There seems to be more than a few Crafts around and I'm having trouble sorting one from another. John George Craft and Ethel Constance Towell came to Canada before 1925. Sometime after they became known as Croft instead of Craft. Thanks very much! Vicki . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Depends how far back it was - this would have died out generally about mid nineteenth century, although we have diaries of my gt. grandfather who was born in 1820 and he uses the long "s" still in 1889. It was actually a long "s" - not an "f" at all, but an extra letter thus - ƒ. If I remember rightly, if it extended below the line it was an "s" and if the letter finished at the line it was an "f". It was used mainly in a double "s" as the second letter. Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: Ironside via Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:13 AM To: Jenny De Angelis ; middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] Home Fires,surnames MICHSHEL/L+ vars. and VINCENT London/Middx. I am sure seine will correct me but I thought that a "ss" in a word was written to look like "sf". Paul in Sydney Sent from the telephone. > On 30 Dec 2014, at 5:05 am, Jenny De Angelis via > <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Hi Eve, > > thankyou very much for your message. You have given me food for thought > in > what you say. I had not considered George Frederick being German, Swiss > of > Alsatian. I have had the family tale that there was someone French in the > family all the time, this tale comes from more than one family member. So > far George Fred Michshel/l is the only person born Foreign that has > appeared > in my research of my husband's family. > > All of the baptism entries for the Michshel children that I have found to > date show their father as a modeller in Plaster or as a Plasterer. > George's > death certificate shows him to have been a plasterer. > > To have named his son Napoleon must surely point to George Frederick being > a > supporter of Napoleon Bonaparte during the revolution in France. Whether > of > not he was a soldier in the French army during the Napoleonic wars, he > must > have been a supporter. > > Hermesfred, or Hemasfred, either spelling of the name is how the name is > spelt for this girl in the baptism register, censuses and on her marriage > entry in the register, she signed her name herself and did not make her > mark > in the marriage register, though her signature is not very clear it does > look like Hermesfred/Hermasfred, there is definitely a small letter "f" > in > the middle of the name, it is the Es/As part that is never clear in the > written name. Once married she is shown in the 1891 census by the > initial > H F, perhaps the enumerator could only read these two letters of the name > or > the filler in of the schedule couldn't spell her full name, the rest of > the > family are shown by their full names. > > It is a very odd name, I know, and I have been puzzling about it for the > past 10-15 years. > > I shall go on puzzling about Hermesfred for ever more. > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > > <<George Frederick doesn't sound French (even adapted French).If from > Georg Friedrich (like Handel) could be German or Swiss. > The Michsel might be a warped Michelle, Mischel. > Hermes fred for a female??? Could this be a misreading of Hermentrud > (usually anglicised as Ermentrude. > Again, this points to a possible German or Swiss origin, or maybe > Alsatian. > Origins as diverse as formerly in the German legion (ex Hanoverian > estates), or a French waiter? > You should get an occupation for any baptisms 1813 onwards. , >> > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all > previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames > only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone, I'm new to the list and researching the Craft and Towell (Towill) families. I'm having some difficulty locating census records for the family (Ancestry) over several years which is making it difficult to confirm some of the details I've gathered so far. Here are some names - if anyone has a link to or knowledge of these folks feel free to get in touch. John George Craft b 20 Dec 1889 Shoreditch, Middlesex, married Ethel Constance Towell b. about 1900 - I believe John's parents were William James Craft b 1856 Shoreditch & Susannah Pethers b 1859 Shoreditch - I think John's father was Alfred Charles Craft b 1828 Shoreditch, but having trouble confirming his mother but I believe her first name was Elizabeth. There seems to be more than a few Crafts around and I'm having trouble sorting one from another. John George Craft and Ethel Constance Towell came to Canada before 1925. Sometime after they became known as Croft instead of Craft. Thanks very much! Vicki

I am sure seine will correct me but I thought that a "ss" in a word was written to look like "sf". Paul in Sydney Sent from the telephone. > On 30 Dec 2014, at 5:05 am, Jenny De Angelis via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Hi Eve, > > thankyou very much for your message. You have given me food for thought in > what you say. I had not considered George Frederick being German, Swiss of > Alsatian. I have had the family tale that there was someone French in the > family all the time, this tale comes from more than one family member. So > far George Fred Michshel/l is the only person born Foreign that has appeared > in my research of my husband's family. > > All of the baptism entries for the Michshel children that I have found to > date show their father as a modeller in Plaster or as a Plasterer. George's > death certificate shows him to have been a plasterer. > > To have named his son Napoleon must surely point to George Frederick being a > supporter of Napoleon Bonaparte during the revolution in France. Whether of > not he was a soldier in the French army during the Napoleonic wars, he must > have been a supporter. > > Hermesfred, or Hemasfred, either spelling of the name is how the name is > spelt for this girl in the baptism register, censuses and on her marriage > entry in the register, she signed her name herself and did not make her mark > in the marriage register, though her signature is not very clear it does > look like Hermesfred/Hermasfred, there is definitely a small letter "f" in > the middle of the name, it is the Es/As part that is never clear in the > written name. Once married she is shown in the 1891 census by the initial > H F, perhaps the enumerator could only read these two letters of the name or > the filler in of the schedule couldn't spell her full name, the rest of the > family are shown by their full names. > > It is a very odd name, I know, and I have been puzzling about it for the > past 10-15 years. > > I shall go on puzzling about Hermesfred for ever more. > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > > <<George Frederick doesn't sound French (even adapted French).If from > Georg Friedrich (like Handel) could be German or Swiss. > The Michsel might be a warped Michelle, Mischel. > Hermes fred for a female??? Could this be a misreading of Hermentrud > (usually anglicised as Ermentrude. > Again, this points to a possible German or Swiss origin, or maybe Alsatian. > Origins as diverse as formerly in the German legion (ex Hanoverian > estates), or a French waiter? > You should get an occupation for any baptisms 1813 onwards. , >> > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HMmmm! Maybe George Fred. was not French after all. The family have always thought that someone in the family was French. But perhaps they thought that because of the name Napoleon being in the family. It doesn't take much for a family story to get mis-construed into something completely different from the original story. George Frederick senior, was born Foreign according to the 1841 census, with the letter F in the last column on the right of the page. Not having found him in the 1851 census is not helpful, I might have found out where he had come from if I could find him there. I have a copy of his death certificate and, as you say, it does give the cause of death as being due to intoxication. Do you have an interest in this man and his family, you must have seen a copy of the death certificate to know this fact. I know he was sued for debt, I have the extract from a newspaper stating that he was summoned to appear in court on a given date. I have never seen any report of the trial or any sentence that was passed on him. I don't know where to find such information about debtors. George's wife Charlotte is in Fulham workhouse with her surname mis spelt as Meshell as is the surname in Napoleon's entry, his first name looks like it is spelt Napolian. I have found a couple of the daughters of this family working as servants in 1851 so not in the workhouse with their mother and siblings. I think that in the 1851 at Fulham workhouse Hermasfred is down as Elizabeth Meshel aged 8. Perhaps the head of the workhouse thought her proper name too outlandish and called her Elizabeth instead. This girl has to be Hermasfred as I have never found an Elizabeth Michshel birth about 1842, but then neither have I found the birth on FreeBMD of Hermasfred. Maybe she was never registered, I can't even find an entry of birth for a "Female" Michshel/l about 1842 give or take 2 years or more on either side and being imaginative and using wild cards for the spelling of the surname. I have only got her baptism in early 1842 giving her birth date as Nov. 1841. You made me laugh when you said perhaps he had one over the eight when naming a couple of his children, you could be right. ;-)))))) I might have to give George Frederick Michshel up as a bad job and move onto other things. Thankyou for making me think again about George. He really is a case for wanting to go back in time and speak to him. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<The name Napoleon really is not that unusual in England in the 19thC, there are hundreds of children named thus (nearly a thousand recorded between 1837 and 1915) and nearly all to people with otherwise very English sounding surnames (I was particularly drawn to one named William Virgil Shakspeare Napoleon Boys born in Portsmouth in 1863). I really think that the jump from naming a son Napoleon to the father being French or being even a supporter of Napoleon is a bridge too far. Napoleon is not rally even a French name. Remember that Napoleon Bonaparte himself was Corsican, and the name is usually considered to be of Italian origin (though some consider it of German origin). Also why would George Frederick have waited until his 6th child was born before he made any reference to French or Republican leanings. The previous children were Charlotte, George Frederick, Rosina, Mary Miranda and Olivia. Hermesfred was his 7th child, and she seems to have kept that name through to her death. No idea where that comes from, but sounds more Germanic/Nordic than French. Like you I cannot locate George Frederick or Charlotte senior in the 1851 census, though Napoleon appears as a pauper in Fulham. I assume you are aware that George Frederick senior was sued and committed to the court for relief of insolvent debtors in 1842, and also that his death was due to habitual intoxication. Maybe he had had one (or several) too many on the days his 6th and 7th children were named :-)>>

Hi Jenny I don't have any link with this family at all, just found it interesting to follow up. I found the death certificate online in an Ancestry Public Tree, seems like you are not alone in trying to find out more about this family, and also you are not alone in coming up against a brick wall. Finding George in 1851 would hopefully be the key, but like you I cannot locate him. Regards Jon -----Original Message----- From: Jenny De Angelis [mailto:jennyda2@gmail.com] Sent: 29 December 2014 21:42 To: Jon Baker; middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] Home Fires, surnames MICHSHEL/L+ vars. and VINCENT London/Middx. Do you have an interest in this man and his family, you must have seen a copy of the death certificate to know this fact. I know he was sued for debt, I have the extract from a newspaper stating that he was summoned to appear in court on a given date. I have never seen any report of the trial or any sentence that was passed on him. I don't know where to find such information about debtors.

Jenny The name Napoleon really is not that unusual in England in the 19thC, there are hundreds of children named thus (nearly a thousand recorded between 1837 and 1915) and nearly all to people with otherwise very English sounding surnames (I was particularly drawn to one named William Virgil Shakspeare Napoleon Boys born in Portsmouth in 1863). I really think that the jump from naming a son Napoleon to the father being French or being even a supporter of Napoleon is a bridge too far. Napoleon is not rally even a French name. Remember that Napoleon Bonaparte himself was Corsican, and the name is usually considered to be of Italian origin (though some consider it of German origin). Also why would George Frederick have waited until his 6th child was born before he made any reference to French or Republican leanings. The previous children were Charlotte, George Frederick, Rosina, Mary Miranda and Olivia. Hermesfred was his 7th child, and she seems to have kept that name through to her death. No idea where that comes from, but sounds more Germanic/Nordic than French. Like you I cannot locate George Frederick or Charlotte senior in the 1851 census, though Napoleon appears as a pauper in Fulham. I assume you are aware that George Frederick senior was sued and committed to the court for relief of insolvent debtors in 1842, and also that his death was due to habitual intoxication. Maybe he had had one (or several) too many on the days his 6th and 7th children were named :-) Regards Jon Baker -----Original Message----- All of the baptism entries for the Michshel children that I have found to date show their father as a modeller in Plaster or as a Plasterer. George's death certificate shows him to have been a plasterer. To have named his son Napoleon must surely point to George Frederick being a supporter of Napoleon Bonaparte during the revolution in France. Whether of not he was a soldier in the French army during the Napoleonic wars, he must have been a supporter. Hermesfred, or Hemasfred, either spelling of the name is how the name is spelt for this girl in the baptism register, censuses and on her marriage entry in the register, she signed her name herself and did not make her mark in the marriage register, though her signature is not very clear it does look like Hermesfred/Hermasfred, there is definitely a small letter "f" in the middle of the name, it is the Es/As part that is never clear in the written name. Once married she is shown in the 1891 census by the initial H F, perhaps the enumerator could only read these two letters of the name or the filler in of the schedule couldn't spell her full name, the rest of the family are shown by their full names.

On 29/12/2014 18:05, Jenny De Angelis via wrote: > I had not considered George Frederick being German, Swiss of > Alsatian. I have had the family tale that there was someone French in the > family all the time, this tale comes from more than one family member. So > far George Fred Michshel/l is the only person born Foreign that has appeared > in my research of my husband's family. Try Alsace first then. It's on the French/German border. It would fit with both your family story and with Eve's suggestion. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Hi Eve, thankyou very much for your message. You have given me food for thought in what you say. I had not considered George Frederick being German, Swiss of Alsatian. I have had the family tale that there was someone French in the family all the time, this tale comes from more than one family member. So far George Fred Michshel/l is the only person born Foreign that has appeared in my research of my husband's family. All of the baptism entries for the Michshel children that I have found to date show their father as a modeller in Plaster or as a Plasterer. George's death certificate shows him to have been a plasterer. To have named his son Napoleon must surely point to George Frederick being a supporter of Napoleon Bonaparte during the revolution in France. Whether of not he was a soldier in the French army during the Napoleonic wars, he must have been a supporter. Hermesfred, or Hemasfred, either spelling of the name is how the name is spelt for this girl in the baptism register, censuses and on her marriage entry in the register, she signed her name herself and did not make her mark in the marriage register, though her signature is not very clear it does look like Hermesfred/Hermasfred, there is definitely a small letter "f" in the middle of the name, it is the Es/As part that is never clear in the written name. Once married she is shown in the 1891 census by the initial H F, perhaps the enumerator could only read these two letters of the name or the filler in of the schedule couldn't spell her full name, the rest of the family are shown by their full names. It is a very odd name, I know, and I have been puzzling about it for the past 10-15 years. I shall go on puzzling about Hermesfred for ever more. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<George Frederick doesn't sound French (even adapted French).If from Georg Friedrich (like Handel) could be German or Swiss. The Michsel might be a warped Michelle, Mischel. Hermes fred for a female??? Could this be a misreading of Hermentrud (usually anglicised as Ermentrude. Again, this points to a possible German or Swiss origin, or maybe Alsatian. Origins as diverse as formerly in the German legion (ex Hanoverian estates), or a French waiter? You should get an occupation for any baptisms 1813 onwards. , >>

Greetings, If you need help with French or German, but above all you would also need patience with me time wise. My next birthday will be the last one with a single 0. I love doing voluntary work and still do some. But I think my teaching English to migrants will not be renewed, because all teachers have too many personal problems, age, husbands in remissions, that sort of things. French is my second language since Grade 4. The people in the street thought I was French myself. Name from Provence! We suspect could be Old English - son -on cut off -only rare bird to go from borderland (too cold) to West Country pre QE1! When young, I was employed successfully as a 3 lingual translator, interpreter. I had a cataract op, since then handwriting on Monitor near impossible to read. Loving to help others, it is relaxation to me. I still have one, now for a decade, kind of committee to give advice. I drove myself there, once a month, until I arrived ~ 5 years ago, shaken for having been forced by a "long road train", which was determined to turn right at the last minute. I was then in the outside lane also, we all travelling at 60 k/hr, because I had to turn right also just past said lights. And so I could not slam my brakes down, just flash warnings! I found myself forced into the opposite lane, fortunately the red lights of the cars travelling in the opposite direction were active. My "tail" got my message , I was back in line before the lights changed... I handed in my resignation immediately on arrival. It was rejected unanimously. Since then, I get a taxi both ways paid for me for what is to me a massive sum of money. What calms my conscience: Each December we learn what our recommendations have achieved during that calendar year for ancients like myself. I am deeply impressed of what we achieved at surprisingly small expenditure to the entire Community! Sorry! You got my relaxation burst out! Please use me to your judgement, I am happy to be a last resort. <lavers@esc.net.au> -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bleather via Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2014 11:14 AM To: Sheila Tutton; middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] French language Help Please Sheila, I believe , loosely translated it says... Your request has been received. It will take approx. 3 weeks for an answer. If you have a problem with this do not hesitate to contact the communicator with the personnel at the reference service at (area code) 514 873-1100 ext. 6260. -----Original Message----- From: Sheila Tutton via Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 6:11 PM To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDX] French language Help Please I sent a request for a copy of a Bapt. I found on the Internet and received this reply. The Bapt. was at the Garrison Anglican Church Montreal Canada in 1761. Can anyone help please. Bonjour, Nous avons bien reçu votre courriel. Votre demande sera traitée d'ici trois semaines. Au besoin, n'hésitez pas à communiquer avec le personnel du service de référence au 514 873-1100, poste 6260. Service de référence BAnQ Vieux-Montréal Bibliothèque et Archives nationales du Québec Tél.: 514 873-1100, option 4 ou sans frais au 1-800-363-9028 archives.montreal@banq.qc.ca « Avez-vous complété notre sondage en ligne? Cliquez ici ». . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would desperately like to sit down and chat with my gg grandmother Mary who was born at Kingsbury Green circa 1801 and married my gg grandfather Henry Holmes circa 1820 (?) and settled at 10 Mount St Grosvenor Square where he had his hairdressing business. The very first question I would ask her would be, "Please, great great granny, WHAT WAS YOUR MAIDEN NAME?" The second one would be, "Were you his first wife, or did he marry you after she passed away?"

Any lister with links to Griff(ith) Meek and wife Sarah Evans Pepperell, m.July 1, 1850, St. Bartholomews, London? She d. 1878 Islington. Links to my Mills families ex Kingsbridge Devon and Limehouse Causeway. Les Hewett, Napier, New Zealand.