Janice It's there transcribed as Dennis McCarthy Bill -----Original Message----- From: Janice12 via Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 9:54 AM To: Middlesex List Subject: [MDX] FindMyPast Hello Does anyone else have trouble with the site FindMyPast I signed up for the Worldwide subscription via the Australian site as it was half price I use the UK site for my searches in the UK I been looking for census for some people I have info I already have yet putting in name ect I still can’t find them on FMP site example Household Members: Name Age Pear Tree Ct Clerkenwell Dennis Carthy 46 occ:perforator Johann Carthy 39 Johanna Carthy 14 John Carthy 20 Occ: engraver William Carthy 17 Richard Hayner 51 Catharine Mc Carthy 10 Mo Dennis Mc Carthy 10 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1516; Folio: 458; Page: 28; GSU roll: 87850. I found that you can only put in name, DOB, DOD, area but by doing this it don’t come up with results so can anyone else having trouble or know how to get the results Regards Janice . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Does anyone else have trouble with the site FindMyPast I signed up for the Worldwide subscription via the Australian site as it was half price I use the UK site for my searches in the UK I been looking for census for some people I have info I already have yet putting in name ect I still can’t find them on FMP site example Household Members: Name Age Pear Tree Ct Clerkenwell Dennis Carthy 46  occ:perforator Johann Carthy 39  Johanna Carthy 14  John Carthy 20  Occ: engraver William Carthy 17  Richard Hayner 51  Catharine Mc Carthy 10 Mo  Dennis Mc Carthy 10  Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1516; Folio: 458; Page: 28; GSU roll: 87850. I found that you can only put in name, DOB, DOD, area but by doing this it don’t come up with results so can anyone else having trouble or know how to get the results Regards Janice

I had an occasion on the last free offer where they'd debited my card in the middle of the night before the day it was due to expire - and I'm in NZ where we're first to see the new day!! But when I complained they were quick to reverse the charge. I find that you have to stick with the site to learn how to navigate it. Their Westminster records have been really useful for me, and I wouldn't like not to be able to access them. You do need to search over a broad date range to bring up the entries you want - but I find the American content less pervasive and annoying than on Ancestry!! I agree that the facility to search on parents' names would be useful though. BTW, if you go into the main search page http://search.findmypast.com.au/search-world-records (click on Search from the band across the top of the page) there is a link to the old search. Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: List Admin via Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 8:33 AM To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] FREE OFFER FMP? On 08/03/2015 12:42, eve via wrote: > Beware - if you take up the FMP free offer, they want your credit card > details > before you can use it. Mine they seem to have harvested from another site, > without any authorisation on my part. What is more, their search engine > is > clumsy and -despite their various claims in magazines to have this that or > the other resources, I tested this and found that they didn't seem to have > entries from certain claimed sources at all. It is standard practice to take card details with any offer. It's unlikely they've "harvested" your card details as few (including FMP) now keep details on their site. If you are sure they have done as you say, contact them and insist they remove you information and contact your bank to tell them there may be an unauthorised charge to your account. I'd also suggest you contact your lawyer and the police. There have been a great many complaints about FMP ever since they updated their site about how impossible it was to navigate it. *Crossposting removed* -- List Admin, Middx . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone refresh my memory as to the abbreviations used in Burial entries in parish registers in the 1700s. I have a Peter Le Fort buried 22 October 1708 at St James Piccadilly – beside his name is an “M”. Does this stand for “Man”? and I’m assuming that “W” stands for Woman? The transcription gives Peter’s age as “0” but I have a feeling that he was not an infant, as all the child burials seem to have “C” beside them? Jeanette

On 08/03/2015 12:42, eve via wrote: > Beware - if you take up the FMP free offer, they want your credit card details > before you can use it. Mine they seem to have harvested from another site, > without any authorisation on my part. What is more, their search engine is > clumsy and -despite their various claims in magazines to have this that or > the other resources, I tested this and found that they didn't seem to have > entries from certain claimed sources at all. It is standard practice to take card details with any offer. It's unlikely they've "harvested" your card details as few (including FMP) now keep details on their site. If you are sure they have done as you say, contact them and insist they remove you information and contact your bank to tell them there may be an unauthorised charge to your account. I'd also suggest you contact your lawyer and the police. There have been a great many complaints about FMP ever since they updated their site about how impossible it was to navigate it. *Crossposting removed* -- List Admin, Middx

Beware - if you take up the FMP free offer, they want your credit card details before you can use it. Mine they seem to have harvested from another site, without any authorisation on my part. What is more, their search engine is clumsy and -despite their various claims in magazines to have this that or the other resources, I tested this and found that they didn't seem to have entries from certain claimed sources at all. So OK, maybe this mean 'my' entries sinmply are not included in their source? But no - I cross checked this carefully, using entries I know are there, having collected them years ago from the registers concerned. If they only have a percentage of entries, they should admit this. If you request the category 'births, marriages and deaths from parish records', you actually get BMD from civil registration. There is no facility for filtering by 'name of father', 'name of parents' that is visible. They require a close date and place before they start your search. However, a request for entries from 'St George's Hanover Square' which they claim, (even after I got rid of American entries) threw up entries from Devon, Cornwall, Somerset, Hampshire, bermondsey etc - and not the ones from SGHS I knew were there either. I'll stik with Ancestry, on this showing, which produces answers even when they don't specifically claim certain places. And if FMP dare try to use my credit card details, I shall be very much annoyed. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

Hi Jeanette Yes, the abbreviations in the Westminster registers at this date are M = Man, W = Woman, C = Child. In the transcription, the 0 in the age field looks like a default value that has been inserted when no age is entered. It's in many other records too (but clearly shouldn't be!). HTH Judy London, UK ________________________________ From: Jeanette deMontalk via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Can someone refresh my memory as to the abbreviations used in Burial entries in parish registers in the 1700s. I have a Peter Le Fort buried 22 October 1708 at St James Piccadilly – beside his name is an “M”. Does this stand for “Man”? and I’m assuming that “W” stands for Woman? The transcription gives Peter’s age as “0” but I have a feeling that he was not an infant, as all the child burials seem to have “C” beside them? Jeanette

On 05/03/2015 12:36, Michael Allbrook wrote: > Is that the same archive as the British Library? BrightSolid/FMP are digitising the British Library's content and putting it online. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Is that the same archive as the British Library? I am trawling through it and finding so much. Mainly adding flesh to the skeleton but I have found a distant relative who committed suicide. Fascinating stuff Michael Allbrook -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Connie via Sent: 05 March 2015 11:35 To: bruce.murduck@family-historian.com; middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] Notice in "London Public Ledger and Daily Advertiser", 1829 On 04/03/2015 00:35, Bruce Murduck via wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I wonder if anyone can offer suggestions as to how I might obtain a > copy of a notice which apparently appeared in the "London Public > Ledger and Daily Advertiser" on 29 January 1829? > > This particular edition is apparently available through > NewspaperArchive.com, but I don't have a subscription, and cannot take > one out. Newspaperarchive is part of BrightSolid which means it's also available via FindMyPast. Some libraries have a subscription to FindMyPast or you can buy a few credits to get the item. Search is free of charge. FMP World is free this weekend apparently. You may be able to get the article that way. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 04/03/2015 00:35, Bruce Murduck via wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I wonder if anyone can offer suggestions as to how I might obtain a copy > of a notice which apparently appeared in the "London Public Ledger and > Daily Advertiser" on 29 January 1829? > > This particular edition is apparently available through > NewspaperArchive.com, but I don't have a subscription, and cannot take > one out. Newspaperarchive is part of BrightSolid which means it's also available via FindMyPast. Some libraries have a subscription to FindMyPast or you can buy a few credits to get the item. Search is free of charge. FMP World is free this weekend apparently. You may be able to get the article that way. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Have you tried the National Newspaper Archive in Yorkshire. I have just checked it out at http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ . Well worth a look Michael Allbrook -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andy Hedgcock via Sent: 04 March 2015 10:34 To: bruce.murduck@family-historian.com; middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] Notice in "London Public Ledger and Daily Advertiser", 1829 Hi Bruce Check your local library in Canada - they may have a sub themselves to a newspaper database which includes this. HTH Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Murduck via" <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> To: <Middlesex_County_UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:35 AM Subject: [MDX] Notice in "London Public Ledger and Daily Advertiser", 1829 > Hello Listers, > > I wonder if anyone can offer suggestions as to how I might obtain a copy > of a notice which apparently appeared in the "London Public Ledger and > Daily Advertiser" on 29 January 1829? > > This particular edition is apparently available through > NewspaperArchive.com, but I don't have a subscription, and cannot take > one out. > > Any help appreciated, and Thanks in advance, > > Bruce Murduck > Kingston, Ontario, Canada > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all > previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames > only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another plea for help, it’s the same family as before but Martha Allbrook vanishes in 1871, please tell me if you can find her What I do know Martha Allbrook was born in Spitalfields in London in 1834 and died as Martha Bates in 1923 in South Shields. I have her baptism Her husband was William Thomas Bates who was born in Greenwich in 1839. St Alphege, Greenwich William Thomas Bates Baptism 19 Jan 1840 son of Edward and Elizabeth Mary Bates 1851 at Belmont Road Lee Thomas Marriott  30 born Greenwich Clerk and Elizabeth Marriott  21 Thomas Marriott 3  John Marriott 1 Martha Allbrook 16 Visitor and wife's sister Martha's visit could relate to the death of both parents in 1846 and 1848 1861 at 7 Thannet Place, Lewisham Thomas Marriott 40 Stockbrokers Clerk and Elizabeth Marriott 31 John Marriott 11   Henry Marriott 6   Fredrick Marriott 4 Charles Marriott 1 Martha Allbrook 26 visitor and sister in law Emma Wilkins 28 visitor Harriott Moat 13 servant Now there is a pertinent marriage: Marriages Jun 1867   DUNN  Isabella     S. Shields  10a 743 1868 Birth of Child: Amelia Emily Bates 1868 Oct-Nov-Dec South Shields 10a 617 1871 Martha is not living with the Marriott family in George Lane, Lewisham 1871 Census – William Bates and Family at Cullercoates South Shields William Bates 31 seaman born Kent Isabella Bates 31 born South Shields Amelia Bates 2 born South Shields Elizabeth Bates 1 Month born Cullercoats 1873 Birth of a child: Charlotte Emma Bates 1873 Jan-Feb-Mar Tynemouth 10b 223 1875 Birth of a child Edward Bates 1875 Oct-Nov-Dec South Shields 10a 730 Deaths Sep 1878   BATES  Isabella  39  S. Shields  10a 434 Marriage Martha Allbrook 1880 Jan-Feb-Mar Lewisham 1d  111 Groom William Thomas Bates 1881 at 142 Cleveland Street, Westoe William Thos. Bates 41 Engineer and Shipbuilder's Clerk and Martha Bates 42 Amelia Emily Bates 12    Charlotte Emma Bates 8  Edward Bates 5 Sarah Isabella Hurst 10 Niece 1891 at 7 St Aidan Place, Westoe William Bates 51 Shipyard clerk and Martha Bates 52 Charlotte E Bates 18 Edward Bates 15 In the 1901 census she is blind. She died in South Shields in 1923 age 89 I do have the 1901 and 1911 census but they are not relevant to the query so I have omitted them. Michael Allbrook

Hi Bruce Check your local library in Canada - they may have a sub themselves to a newspaper database which includes this. HTH Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Murduck via" <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> To: <Middlesex_County_UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:35 AM Subject: [MDX] Notice in "London Public Ledger and Daily Advertiser", 1829 > Hello Listers, > > I wonder if anyone can offer suggestions as to how I might obtain a copy > of a notice which apparently appeared in the "London Public Ledger and > Daily Advertiser" on 29 January 1829? > > This particular edition is apparently available through > NewspaperArchive.com, but I don't have a subscription, and cannot take > one out. > > Any help appreciated, and Thanks in advance, > > Bruce Murduck > Kingston, Ontario, Canada > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all > previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames > only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found the above with mother,also Isabella on the 1911 cesus,but I have been unable to find her in 1901.I would grateful for any help please. Regards,Charles

HI Michael, I think I may have found Joseph Allbrook in 1841 REf. HO107 Enum district 19 folio 12 page 18 St. Clement Danes Middlesex Indexed as Joseph Allorook. Aged 20 his occupation is dittoed down from a few lines above, and looks as if he was a Law Stationer apprentice, as is the young 15 year old immediately above him. He is shown as Yes born in Middlesex. I found him by searching for Joseph born +/-5years of 1820 in Middlesex and left it at that. Then our of the 4,000odd results I looked through the entries with surnames beginning with A and found this one listed in the results. Hope this is the right man. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<My next query is my Great Great Grandfather, Joseph Benjamin Allbrook born in the Spitalfields area in 1820 and died in Hackney in 1907 and buried in that wonderful Abney Park Cemetery.>>

Hello Listers, I wonder if anyone can offer suggestions as to how I might obtain a copy of a notice which apparently appeared in the "London Public Ledger and Daily Advertiser" on 29 January 1829? This particular edition is apparently available through NewspaperArchive.com, but I don't have a subscription, and cannot take one out. Any help appreciated, and Thanks in advance, Bruce Murduck Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Everyone is missing from the 1941 census :) I think you mean the 1841. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Hello again Michael Re: 1901 England Census I have found your people in the 1901 Census, listed as Charles Futh and corrected by a subscriber to Ancestry as Firth.....so I have added another correction to Frith. The Frith family are still living at 26 Pownall Road, Haggerston, Middlesex, England in 1901. Mary Ann nee Allbrook is still living in 1901, however, Charles Frith is listed as a Widower in the 1911 Census. Hope this helps you. Sandra Melbourne, Vic, Australia -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Allbrook via Sent: Monday, 2 March 2015 4:24 a.m. To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDX] missing from the 1901 census Can anyone tell me the details of the census entry for a couple: Charles FRITH 1849 who Was married to Mary Ann (nee Allbrook 1846) And lived at 26 Pownall Road Haggerston, Shoreditch: This address is confirmed by her death registration in 1902 and the fact they were there in 1891 I should add that none of the contributors to Ancestry's Public Trees has tracked them down If you can tell me how to search for an address in an Ancestry Census, I would be very grateful Michael Allbrook . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Michael I will assume you mean the 1841 <g> Try this one Name: Joseph Allorook Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Clement Danes Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Strand Sub-registration district: St Clement Danes Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 686 Book: 19 Folio: 12 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age John Bransby 15 Joseph Allorook 20 John Otley 15 Catherin Piercy 15 Marianne Hopwood 55 Cancel Source Citation Class: HO107; Piece: 686; Book: 19; Civil Parish: St Clement Danes; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 20; Folio: 12; Page: 18; Line: 18; GSU roll: 438802 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/03/2015 17:14, Michael Allbrook via wrote: > My next query is my Great Great Grandfather, Joseph Benjamin Allbrook born > in the Spitalfields area in 1820 and died in Hackney in 1907 and > buried in that wonderful Abney Park Cemetery. > I have managed to track him in census, certificates (he had 10 Children) > throughout his life and I have a photo of him a couple of years before he > died with his son (my great Grandfather) and his wife (Great Grandma) and > also my Grandfather. > But in 1841 he is missing, once again I have spent hours searching without > success. All I know is that his parents and siblings are around Curtain Road > and he was destined to be a Bank Clerk. > Once again the public trees on Ancestry are lacking this detail, strange > isn't it that one detail missing on one tree is missing from all the others! > Please can you help? > > Michael Allbrook > > > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Michael I'm assuming your request for details of the census entry for the couple relates to 1891 ? I just went to the Ancestry 1891 UK Census Collection and entered his name.....then in the Lived In Location box I typed Haggerston, London, England and up they came. Their name had originally been misspelt as Tlith, but has now been corrected to Frith. I viewed the original document and confirm the Frith family were living at 26 Pownall Road, Haggerston, Shoreditch, England (Middlesex) Charles Frith Head Occ: Silk Finisher Mary Ann Frith Wife Mary F Frith (17) Charles A Frith (15) Ethel S Frith (13) Arthur E Frith (12) Joseph H Frith (10) Alfred L Frith (8) Hope this is of some help Sandra Melbourne, Vic, Australia -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Allbrook via Sent: Monday, 2 March 2015 4:24 a.m. To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDX] missing from the 1901 census Can anyone tell me the details of the census entry for a couple: Charles FRITH 1849 who Was married to Mary Ann (nee Allbrook 1846) And lived at 26 Pownall Road Haggerston, Shoreditch: This address is confirmed by her death registration in 1902 and the fact they were there in 1891 I should add that none of the contributors to Ancestry's Public Trees has tracked them down If you can tell me how to search for an address in an Ancestry Census, I would be very grateful Michael Allbrook . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message