On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 14:25:18 +0000 Charani via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello Charani, >On 14/03/2015 12:36, Brad Rogers via wrote: >> Possibly you're looking for 'tithe' in the wrong place. If you want >I went to the A-Z of databases put "Tithe" in the search box and got Okay; I wasn't sure where you were looking. >zilch. No idea what happened there, then. :-( Ultimately, no matter which company one uses, be it Ancestry, FMP, Genealogist, etc. I suspect that, when it comes to using the search forms on other sites, they're quite likely to feel cumbersome. Due, of course, to lack of familiarity. Obviously, the same applies when companies update their own forms. We all(1) hate it when they do that. (1) Well, a lot of us. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" It's not your heart, it's your bank I want to break It's Yer Money - Wonder Stuff
On 14/03/2015 12:36, Brad Rogers via wrote: > Possibly you're looking for 'tithe' in the wrong place. If you want to > search the tithe databases, search fro "tithe" in the A-Z of databases, > not use it as a keyword in the person search. I went to the A-Z of databases put "Tithe" in the search box and got zilch. I wasn't looking for a specific person. It was a place I wanted because I don't know who owned/occupied what, if anything. > They only have one dataset with tithe in the title, anyway: > > The 1831 Tithe defaulters Which should have come up but didn't. > Which is contained within the Census, Land & Surveys data set. Which is where I expected it to be. > Like many others, I didn't like the new search at FMP (even after > tweaking, I agree it *still* has too much white space), They need to have the search pages with all the boxes on one page and an option at the top to increase the size if required. I've seen plenty of sites that offer that option. > but having adjusted to it a bit, They do seem to have listened, as I said, but only up to a point. > I now find Ancestry's search that requiresinterminable tweaks, checks, > ticks and caveats just to get only UK results a right royal PITA to use. Having always struggled with Ancestry, even after I started using it in preference to FMP, I find the recent tweaks make it infinitely easier to search. I get just the result I want most of the time - even if they do tell me to add more information to get better results! <G> This is what I /used/ to be able to do with FMP and wish I still could because Ancestry's indexing is still "interesting" at times. I'm going to be keeping an eye on The Genealogist for their tithe records. I've had a sub with them before. Their search facility takes quite a bit to get used to. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 12:24:27 +0000 Charani via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello Charani, >supposed to be available because Origins had them. Putting "Tithe" in >the search box results in being told to "try again with a broader >search". I'm not sure how much broader it can get! Possibly you're looking for 'tithe' in the wrong place. If you want to search the tithe databases, search fro "tithe" in the A-Z of databases, not use it as a keyword in the person search. They only have one dataset with tithe in the title, anyway: The 1831 Tithe defaulters Which is contained within the Census, Land & Surveys data set. Like many others, I didn't like the new search at FMP (even after tweaking, I agree it *still* has too much white space), but having adjusted to it a bit, I now find Ancestry's search that requires interminable tweaks, checks, ticks and caveats just to get only UK results a right royal PITA to use. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" People stare like they've seen a ghost Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999
On 13/03/2015 21:22, Rodney Whale via wrote: > Before our list administrator curtails this thread as not "a MDX matter" I > thought it was time for somebody to put a few words together in defence of > FMP, to which I have been a subscriber for four years. > A lot of the problems that users come across are due to failing to use the > filters correctly and failing to specify in the appropriate box which record > is the one for which the search is requested as well as not selecting the > name variant box. > Perhaps I am luckier than most subscribers to FMP because I have no > complaints at all no difficulty in tracing sought information. I started using FMP when it was 1837online and had the GRO indices, hence name. It expanded to include the censuses and searching was simple. There wasn't much there after all :) It renamed itself, added an ever widening range of records but searching was still easy. I could knock up a basic tree covering 100-150 years in a couple of hours in an evening so I could work on it in depth the following day. I could skip from census to census, back and forth in BMDs. No problem. Even the occasional tweaks (like removing the list of census years from each census search page) didn't make a huge difference. It was more an irritation than anything else. Then they "improved" it and that's when the trouble started, justifiably so IMO. At least they did start listening and they do seem to have responded to the criticisms - up to a point. Having just had another look, they seem to have streamlined the search again to make it a bit easier but it's still not as straightforward as it used to be. Using variants just results in thousands of irrelevant results. It's not (IMO) easy to get the filters to work well enough. More than once I've applied filters and had zero results but put the same original search criteria into Ancestry, get excessive hits and refine it easily and bingo! The result I'm looking for pops up immediately. Finding other databases (or datasets) wasn't that hard either. It isn't a matter of using it correctly. It's more a case of being able to figure out how to use it at all now, esp after years of being able to use it - and the page is still too big! ;) I'm wondering if they are lining up a single world wide site given the options on the current pages and the fact the UK site is defaulting to World, not UK. I don't have a sub but I can still have a look to see what there is. I've just found the electoral rolls! LOL I wondered where they'd gone or if FMP had removed them altogether because of complaints. But I still can't find the tithe maps and associated records which are supposed to be available because Origins had them. Putting "Tithe" in the search box results in being told to "try again with a broader search". I'm not sure how much broader it can get! -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk
I agree with you Rod, I have made some wonderful finds, it's just a case of learning how to use the site correctly. Brenda ----Original message---- >From : middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Date : 13/03/2015 - 21:22 (GMTST) To : middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject : Re: [MDX] FindMyPast Hello Everybody, Before our list administrator curtails this thread as not "a MDX matter" I thought it was time for somebody to put a few words together in defence of FMP, to which I have been a subscriber for four years. A lot of the problems that users come across are due to failing to use the filters correctly and failing to specify in the appropriate box which record is the one for which the search is requested as well as not selecting the name variant box. Perhaps I am luckier than most subscribers to FMP because I have no complaints at all no difficulty in tracing sought information. Regards Rod in Hampshire. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Everybody, Before our list administrator curtails this thread as not "a MDX matter" I thought it was time for somebody to put a few words together in defence of FMP, to which I have been a subscriber for four years. A lot of the problems that users come across are due to failing to use the filters correctly and failing to specify in the appropriate box which record is the one for which the search is requested as well as not selecting the name variant box. Perhaps I am luckier than most subscribers to FMP because I have no complaints at all no difficulty in tracing sought information. Regards Rod in Hampshire. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
On 13/03/2015 17:06, eve via wrote: > They hve really gone downhuill since introducing their 'new, improved' > search engine, which justs irritates everyone who tries to use it. > Their recent 'free weekend' also angered people, who discovered first hand > how clumsy it is to seatrch - and also how diffificult to escepae their > 'auto-renew' ploy, if you manage to give them your card details. If you don't > want to renew, you must actually cancel, and ahead of time, not just 'not > renew', since they grab your money anyway. > They bough oOrigins some time back, and are presumably now just > phasing out the name. You presume right. They have improved their search a bit but it's still clumpy, clumsy and difficult to refine searches. I'm not subscribed to FMP any longer. I received this late yesterday from FMP: <quote> Changes to origins.net This message is to inform you that over the next couple of days, Origins.net will be closing down. We want to reassure you that all of the records formerly available on Origins can now be found on Findmypast. Visit Findmypast for more information and to continue your family history journey. </quote> It's no longer possible to subscribe to Origins at all. Find the datasets if you can! I wonder how many more decent sites, like Origins, are going to sell out to/get taken over by FMP. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/
Cen someone please lookup 1851 Census Edward RILEY b..1850 Southwark Surrey Parents Thomas & Eliza RILEY Siblings Elizabeth b.1836 Thomas b.1837 Ann b.1838 Matthew b.1839 Mary b.1841 Jane b.1843 Sue
> Can some please lookup Eliza (Elizabeth) Ann TARRANT > b1799 St Faiths Middlesex > believed to be a widow > Looking to see who she is living with The only proable one is at 61 Napier St, Shoreditch, sharing a house with Wm Hoddy, a Suffolk wood Turner and his small family - probably quite unconnected, just having houseroom. She is a widow and an annuitant however, so I did the obvious check in wills. Her money (£10 p.a. - came from her brother in law, Henry Tarrant, a silk manufacturer, who names several family members including 'Elizabeth Ann widow of my late brother Thomas Tarrant. You can see his will (proved 19 Aug 1842, to pursue this. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society
I joined a few years ago but was so irritated that I complained and my > subscription was returned in full. I joined again nearly a year ago and it > is the same old story I'm afraid. I repeatedly ask a friend of mine to do > look-ups via Ancestry for me! They hve really gone downhuill since introducing their 'new, improved' search engine, which justs irritates everyone who tries to use it. Their recent 'free weekend' also angered people, who discovered first hand how clumsy it is to seatrch - and also how diffificult to escepae their 'auto-renew' ploy, if you manage to give them your card details. If you don't want to renew, you must actually cancel, and ahead of time, not just 'not renew', since they grab your money anyway. They bough oOrigins some time back, and are presumably now just phasing out the name. > > Regards, > > Dene > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janice12 via > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:36 PM > To: 'Barbara Gray' ; 'Middlesex' > Subject: Re: [MDX] FindMyPast > > I canŽt say about it as it was years since I really did any searches on FMP > which I had to pay as I either wasnŽt doing research or used Ancestry or was > lucky enough to get it either free or someone else had found some info for > me > I must say their search part is awful & wonŽt ever renew with them again > Regards Janice > > From: Barbara Gray [mailto:barbarajgray8@gmail.com] > Sent: 10 March 2015 18:27 > To: Janice12; Middlesex > Subject: Re: [MDX] FindMyPast > > The new beta version is slightly less worse, but not a lot. I don't know why > they 'upgraded' as initially it was fine! > Barbara > > > > > >EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society
Can some please lookup Eliza (Elizabeth) Ann TARRANT b1799 St Faiths Middlesex believed to be a widow Looking to see who she is living with Thankyou Sue
On 11/03/2015 10:43, Helen Carter via wrote: > Can someone please lookup the births/or baptism of three children Margaret, Martin and Thomas born to James and Elizabeth PLATTS 1802-1807 > Elizabeth died 1807 Which parish or town in Middlesex? -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/
Margaret Elizabeth Platts Birth 15 July 1803 Bapt. 05 08 1803 St James Westminster MDX James Thomas Platts Birth Dec. 1806 Bapt. 24 Sept. 1809 Aged 2 St James Westminster MDX Martin Richard Platts Birth 30 12 1804 Bapt: 03 02 1805 Parish St George Hanover Square Westminster MDX Cheers Margaret in NZ On Thursday, 12 March 2015 6:20 AM, Helen Carter via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: Can someone please lookup the births/or baptism of three children Margaret, Martin and Thomas born to James and Elizabeth PLATTS 1802-1807 Elizabeth died 1807 Thankyou Helen .. ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk .. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I joined a few years ago but was so irritated that I complained and my subscription was returned in full. I joined again nearly a year ago and it is the same old story I'm afraid. I repeatedly ask a friend of mine to do look-ups via Ancestry for me! Regards, Dene -----Original Message----- From: Janice12 via Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:36 PM To: 'Barbara Gray' ; 'Middlesex' Subject: Re: [MDX] FindMyPast I can’t say about it as it was years since I really did any searches on FMP which I had to pay as I either wasn’t doing research or used Ancestry or was lucky enough to get it either free or someone else had found some info for me I must say their search part is awful & won’t ever renew with them again Regards Janice From: Barbara Gray [mailto:barbarajgray8@gmail.com] Sent: 10 March 2015 18:27 To: Janice12; Middlesex Subject: Re: [MDX] FindMyPast The new beta version is slightly less worse, but not a lot. I don't know why they 'upgraded' as initially it was fine! Barbara . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I can’t say about it as it was years since I really did any searches on FMP which I had to pay as I either wasn’t doing research or used Ancestry or was lucky enough to get it either free or someone else had found some info for me I must say their search part is awful & won’t ever renew with them again Regards Janice From: Barbara Gray [mailto:barbarajgray8@gmail.com] Sent: 10 March 2015 18:27 To: Janice12; Middlesex Subject: Re: [MDX] FindMyPast The new beta version is slightly less worse, but not a lot. I don't know why they 'upgraded' as initially it was fine! Barbara
Can someone please lookup the births/or baptism of three children Margaret, Martin and Thomas born to James and Elizabeth PLATTS 1802-1807 Elizabeth died 1807 Thankyou Helen
The new beta version is slightly less worse, but not a lot. I don't know why they 'upgraded' as initially it was fine! Barbara On 10 March 2015 at 17:25, Janice12 via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Thanks Bill > FMP did come up with it when I gave them details > I am just struggling to get results even with info I know some is a case > of no results even wrong ones > Regards Janice > > -----Original Message----- > From: billandjenny.deverell@tesco.net [mailto: > billandjenny.deverell@tesco.net] > Sent: 10 March 2015 17:21 > To: Janice12; middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDX] FindMyPast > > Janice > > It's there transcribed as Dennis McCarthy > > Bill > > > > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all > previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames > only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I would if I had not paid, I did try to cancel within a couple of days & within the 14 day trial but was told as I had access some of their items (forget what they said exactly) I couldn't cancel they gave me an extra couple months Regards Janice -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charani via Sent: 10 March 2015 17:36 To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] FindMyPast On 10/03/2015 09:54, Janice12 via wrote: > Hello > Does anyone else have trouble with the site FindMyPast I've found FMP is such a pain to use now that I've given up on it.
On 10/03/2015 09:54, Janice12 via wrote: > Hello > Does anyone else have trouble with the site FindMyPast I've found FMP is such a pain to use now that I've given up on it. > Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1516; Folio: 458; Page: 28; GSU roll: > 87850. > > I found that you can only put in name, DOB, DOD, area but by doing this it > dont come up with results so can anyone else having trouble or know how to > get the results BTDTGTTS I have recently discovered you can still search on the reference such as you've given. <www.findmypast.co.uk/frequently-asked-questions/answer/how-can-i-search-a-census-by-reference> -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk
Thanks Bill FMP did come up with it when I gave them details I am just struggling to get results even with info I know some is a case of no results even wrong ones Regards Janice -----Original Message----- From: billandjenny.deverell@tesco.net [mailto:billandjenny.deverell@tesco.net] Sent: 10 March 2015 17:21 To: Janice12; middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] FindMyPast Janice It's there transcribed as Dennis McCarthy Bill