Thanks, Anne and Caroline. I'm moving foward with this at last thanks to your help. Yes, I do have the Will but Edward is not mentioned at all which led me to think he must have died young. Now I have found on familysearch the marriage between Edward LAWRENCE, son of William, at St James, Westminster on 10 March 1839 to Charlotte Caroline DOISY. Although Edward would have been only 15-16, I now believe it must be the right family as I can't find any of them in any census. Thanks so much to both of you. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Bradford" <caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] Edwin LAWRENCE > Hi Jan > > Do you have William's will? There is a highly probable PCC one proved in > May 1855 - downloadable from DocumentsOnline at > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wills.asp?WT.hp=Wills. > > Best wishes > > Caroline > > I would like to find any reference to the early life of >> Edwin LAWRENCE who was said to have been born in London in 1840 please. >> He spent some of his life in Chile, marrying there in 1870, and >> becoming a Master in the Masonic Lodge . He is thought to be a son or >> grandson of William LAWRENCE who was born in 1782 in Old Windsor, >> Berkshire and died in 1855 in Lambeth Surrey. William LAWRENCE owned a >> coffeehouse at 21 James St, Long Acre among other London properties. >> >> Thanks , >> Jan >> in sunny Queensland. >> >> >> ************************************** >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I guess it's a question requiring a yes/no answer - isn't there something like that in Latin ? It's a no, in my case - but an address search in 1911 gives these for Hanger Hill Ealing: Greystoke Farm Hanger Hill Ealing Brentford Middlesex 4 Greystoke Lodge Hanger Hill Ealing Brentford Middlesex 221 Hanger Hill House Club Farm Hanger Hill Ealing Brentford Middlesex 219 Hanger Hill House Lodge Hanger Hill Ealing Brentford Middlesex 218 The Stables Hanger Hill House Hanger Hill Ealing Brentford Middlesex None have any FISHERS living there http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/DevonIndexes/DevonianYearBook1913.html shows a SNELL there in 1913 Anne Sourth Australia Nivard Ovington wrote: > With respect Ann, this sort of post rarely get a meaningful reply > > Try posting at least a few names and details that might help others to know > if they have a connection > (and preferably also question as most listers will simply delete your post > as being of no interest) > > There are 55 FISHERs in 1901 with an Ealing connection alone > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Is anyone researching the Fisher family who lived on Hanger Hill Farm >> Ealing in the early years of the last century? >> Ann Davenport > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

the only Edwin Lawrence registered in London in 1840 is this one Births Mar 1840 Lawrence Edwin Henry St Pancras 1 313 Edwin Henry Lawrence Baptism 24 May 1840 Edward Lawrence, Postman Charlotte Caroline Lawrence George Street St Pancras Old Church Edward Lawrence Baptism 11 Jan 1824 William Lawrence, Vintner Mary Lawrence 21 James Street Long Acre St Martin in the Fields, Westminster Westminster - so definitely the right family but a bit young to be Edwin Henry's father unless it was a late baptism which it doesn't appear to be. Same parents and address Mary Ann Lawrence Baptism 1 Dec 1816 William Lawrence, Mary Lawrence St Martin in the Fields, Westminster Westminster (she must have died as an infant) Eliza Lawrence Baptism 22 Mar 1818 William Lawrence, Mary Lawrence St Martin in the Fields, Westminster Westminster Mary Ann Lawrence Baptism 14 Mar 1819 William Lawrence, Mary Lawrence St Martin in the Fields, Westminster Westminster George Lawrence Baptism 7 Apr 1822 William Lawrence, Mary Lawrence St Martin in the Fields, Westminster Westminster Anne South Australia Neil & Jan Hearn wrote: > Hello again, I would like to find any reference to the early life of Edwin LAWRENCE who was said to have > been born in London in 1840 please. He spent some of his life in Chile, marrying there in 1870, and > becoming a Master in the Masonic Lodge . He is thought to be a son or grandson of William LAWRENCE who was > born in 1782 in Old Windsor, Berkshire and died in 1855 in Lambeth Surrey. William LAWRENCE owned a > coffeehouse at 21 James St, Long Acre among other London properties. > > Thanks , Jan in sunny Queensland. >

Thanks very much for your reply, Jan. The Edwin you mention was brother to another William LAWRENCE , sometime Lord Mayor of London. Our Edwin married Edith Strange. in Ercilla, Chile in 1870. The only photograph we have of Edwin's descendants includes Edith but not her husband. Edith is apparently buried in the Royal Navy Mausoleum in Valparaiso....not sure about Edwin. I cannot find any school records for their offspring although surviving documents state that the LAWRENCE children returned to England for their education. Sorry, I can't find anything more but would really appreciate some assistance if possible please, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "jan royal" <janroyal2000@hotmail.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] Edwin LAWRENCE > > is the Edwin Lawrence Barrister living 10 Palace Gardens Kensington on 1891 (b.1837) your Edwin? > > > > > > > >> From: neil.hearn3@bigpond.com >> To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:02:21 +1000 >> Subject: [MDX] Edwin LAWRENCE >> >> Hello again, >> I would like to find any reference to the early life of Edwin LAWRENCE who was said to have been born in London in 1840 please. He spent some of his life in Chile, marrying there in 1870, and becoming a Master in the Masonic Lodge . He is thought to be a son or grandson of William LAWRENCE who was born in 1782 in Old Windsor, Berkshire and died in 1855 in Lambeth Surrey. William LAWRENCE owned a coffeehouse at 21 James St, Long Acre among other London properties. >> >> Thanks , >> Jan >> in sunny Queensland. >> >> >> ************************************** >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

is the Edwin Lawrence Barrister living 10 Palace Gardens Kensington on 1891 (b.1837) your Edwin? > From: neil.hearn3@bigpond.com > To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:02:21 +1000 > Subject: [MDX] Edwin LAWRENCE > > Hello again, > I would like to find any reference to the early life of Edwin LAWRENCE who was said to have been born in London in 1840 please. He spent some of his life in Chile, marrying there in 1870, and becoming a Master in the Masonic Lodge . He is thought to be a son or grandson of William LAWRENCE who was born in 1782 in Old Windsor, Berkshire and died in 1855 in Lambeth Surrey. William LAWRENCE owned a coffeehouse at 21 James St, Long Acre among other London properties. > > Thanks , > Jan > in sunny Queensland. > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/

did he return to UK? any other details?- Jan > From: neil.hearn3@bigpond.com > To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:02:21 +1000 > Subject: [MDX] Edwin LAWRENCE > > Hello again, > I would like to find any reference to the early life of Edwin LAWRENCE who was said to have been born in London in 1840 please. He spent some of his life in Chile, marrying there in 1870, and becoming a Master in the Masonic Lodge . He is thought to be a son or grandson of William LAWRENCE who was born in 1782 in Old Windsor, Berkshire and died in 1855 in Lambeth Surrey. William LAWRENCE owned a coffeehouse at 21 James St, Long Acre among other London properties. > > Thanks , > Jan > in sunny Queensland. > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/

Hi Jan I very much doubt that this marriage is "yours" for two reasons: 1) Assuming you have Edward's birth date right, a marriage at 15-16 would be phenomenally unlikely. Marriage at such a young age (for a man) in the early 19th century was very rare generally, and for the son of a gentleman (or even a prosperous man of business) practically unheard of. 2) The 1841 census shows an Edward and Charlotte LAWRENCE in St Pancras with a one year old son Edward. This Edward's baptism in 1840 (just right following an 1839 marriage) gives his mother's full name as Charlotte Caroline, thus making it very probable that these are the pair whose marriage Anne found on FreeBMD. Hope this helps Caroline > Thanks, Anne and Caroline. I'm moving foward with this at last thanks > to your help. Yes, I do have the Will but Edward is not mentioned at > all which led me to think he must have died young. > Now I have found on familysearch the marriage between Edward LAWRENCE, > son of William, at St James, Westminster on 10 March 1839 to Charlotte > Caroline DOISY. Although Edward would have been only 15-16, I now > believe it must be the right family as I can't find any of them in any > census. > Thanks so much to both of you. > > Jan

At a rough guess if he was buried, I would say it would definitely be in the ground <g> How about posting the name , age etc there are some burials online , that is assuming he was buried and not used in one of the hospitals , many were Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Listers.. If someone died in London Hospital and the death was > registered in Whitechapel , in the subdistrict of Whitechapel Church, > County of Middlesex.. could you tell me where they would be buried..death > was in 1840..Think it might have something to do with Mile End Old Town as > that was mentioned in the records. > Know this is a big ask but just hoping someone can help.. > > Thanks > > Mary > Sydney of the message

Hello again, I would like to find any reference to the early life of Edwin LAWRENCE who was said to have been born in London in 1840 please. He spent some of his life in Chile, marrying there in 1870, and becoming a Master in the Masonic Lodge . He is thought to be a son or grandson of William LAWRENCE who was born in 1782 in Old Windsor, Berkshire and died in 1855 in Lambeth Surrey. William LAWRENCE owned a coffeehouse at 21 James St, Long Acre among other London properties. Thanks , Jan in sunny Queensland.

Hi Les In 1911 they are at The Garden Gate, Histon Canbs Arthur Graves 37 Publican and farm lab. b. Cheltenham, Cambs Alice 35 Married 15 years 2 children both alive Violet age 15 b. Histon Essie age 12 b. Histon. Hope this helps Ally On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Anne Chambers <anne.chambers@bigpond.com>wrote: > And here she is in 1901 > Harriet E Graves > Age: 2 > Estimated birth year: abt 1899 > Relation: Daughter > Father's Name: Arthur > Mother's Name: Alice E > Gender: Female > Where born: Histon, Cambridgeshire, England > > Civil parish: Histon > Ecclesiastical parish: Histon St Andrew and St Etheldreda > Town: Histon > County/Island: Cambridgeshire > Country: England > > > > Registration district: Chesterton > Sub-registration district: Willingham > ED, institution, or vessel: 2 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household schedule number: 13 > Household Members: > Name Age > Arthur Graves 27 > Alice E Graves 25 > Celia V Graves 5 > Harriet E Graves 2 > > Anne > > Les Hewett wrote: > > Any lister with links/knowledge of Harriet Elsie Rebecca GRAVES, > > married 1919 Islington - Australian war bride (DUFF) to NSW. Not found in > > 1901 or 1911 census? Any assistance appreciated. Les H., Napier, NZ. > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Les Hewett A  good book on Australian War Brides is "Love & War - Stories of War Brides from the Great War to Vietnam" by Carol Fellows and published by Bantam Books.  I also found a copy of the officer's diary for the ship my grandmother came out on as a WW1 war bride, amongst the records retained by the Department of Defence in Canberra - makes for fascinating reading. regards Cherrie from Oz

And here she is in 1901 Harriet E Graves Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1899 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Arthur Mother's Name: Alice E Gender: Female Where born: Histon, Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Histon Ecclesiastical parish: Histon St Andrew and St Etheldreda Town: Histon County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Registration district: Chesterton Sub-registration district: Willingham ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Graves 27 Alice E Graves 25 Celia V Graves 5 Harriet E Graves 2 Anne Les Hewett wrote: > Any lister with links/knowledge of Harriet Elsie Rebecca GRAVES, > married 1919 Islington - Australian war bride (DUFF) to NSW. Not found in > 1901 or 1911 census? Any assistance appreciated. Les H., Napier, NZ.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is her birth Births Jun 1898 Graves Harriet Essie R Chesterton 3b 458 Anne South Australia Les Hewett wrote: > Any lister with links/knowledge of Harriet Elsie Rebecca GRAVES, > married 1919 Islington - Australian war bride (DUFF) to NSW. Not found in > 1901 or 1911 census? Any assistance appreciated. Les H., Napier, NZ.

Any lister with links/knowledge of Harriet Elsie Rebecca GRAVES, married 1919 Islington - Australian war bride (DUFF) to NSW. Not found in 1901 or 1911 census? Any assistance appreciated. Les H., Napier, NZ.

Ann You should contact John Fisher of the Guild of One Name Studies, see http://www.one-name.org/profiles/fisher.html I'm sure he will be able to help. Regards Keith Jacobs GOONs Member 3453 Researching the Baggarley name worldwide see http://www.baggarley.one.name -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Davenport Sent: 26 June 2010 08:37 To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDX] Fisher Is anyone researching the Fisher family who lived on Hanger Hill Farm Ealing in the early years of the last century? Ann Davenport ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is anyone researching the Fisher family who lived on Hanger Hill Farm Ealing in the early years of the last century? Ann Davenport

With respect Ann, this sort of post rarely get a meaningful reply Try posting at least a few names and details that might help others to know if they have a connection (and preferably also question as most listers will simply delete your post as being of no interest) There are 55 FISHERs in 1901 with an Ealing connection alone Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Is anyone researching the Fisher family who lived on Hanger Hill Farm > Ealing in the early years of the last century? > Ann Davenport

Hi Jan Do you have William's will? There is a highly probable PCC one proved in May 1855 - downloadable from DocumentsOnline at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wills.asp?WT.hp=Wills. Best wishes Caroline I would like to find any reference to the early life of > Edwin LAWRENCE who was said to have been born in London in 1840 please. > He spent some of his life in Chile, marrying there in 1870, and > becoming a Master in the Masonic Lodge . He is thought to be a son or > grandson of William LAWRENCE who was born in 1782 in Old Windsor, > Berkshire and died in 1855 in Lambeth Surrey. William LAWRENCE owned a > coffeehouse at 21 James St, Long Acre among other London properties. > > Thanks , > Jan > in sunny Queensland. > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I presume you have the parents' marriage Marriages Mar 1849 Baker Anna S James 1 91 GODDARD Henry St James 1 91 and Anna's first marriage Marriages Mar 1845 ABBOTT Anna Shoreditch 2 317 BAKER Thomas Harris Shoreditch 2 317 marriage St Mary, Haggerston 9 Mar 1845 Thomas Harris Baker Full age Bachelor Waiter St Swithin's Lane father late Thomas Baker Grocer Anna Abbott Minor Milliner Norton Folgate father John Abbott Farmer witnesses George ?Searle? ?Caroline? Dogue Thomas Harris Baker Gender: Male Christening Date: 14 Feb 1823 Christening Place: Aldbourne, Wiltshire, England Father's Name: Thomas Baker Mother's Name: Anne Deaths Sep 1847 Baker Thomas Harris Richmond S 4 286 Births Mar 1848 BAKER Anna Martha Richmond S 4 441 Marriages Sep 1868 Baker Anna Martha Bosmere 4a 922 presumably to James Jacob Thom(p)son The other two on the page are Harry Perry and Emily Spall and I have found Harry Perry with wife Emily on the 1871 census. No sign of Anna and James Jacob though. I have just found her in 1891 Anna M Thompson James J abt 1848 Richmond, Surrey, England Wife Hendon, Middlesex RG12; Piece: 1049; Folio 7; Page 8 The Goddard children: Births Mar 1850 Goddard Charles Henry Richmond 4 453 Births Mar 1852 Goddard Frederick Owen Richmond Sry 2a 175 Marriages Mar 1876 Goddard Elizabeth Ann Romsey 2c 109 Goddard Frederick Owen Romsey 2c 109 In 1901 they are in Wales Frederick O Goddard Elizabeth abt 1853 Richmond, Surrey, England Head Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan RG13; Piece: 5016; Folio: 157; Page: 11. Births Mar 1856 Goddard Fanny Sophia Richmond S. 2a 205 Births Jun 1858 Goddard William John Southampton 2c 25 According to the 1881 census, Frank Edward, Emily Kate and Alfred Earnest are all born in Wiltshire Births Sep 1860 GODDARD Frank Edward Romsey 2c 6_ Births Mar 1869 Goddard Emily Kate Romsey 2c 82 Births Dec 1873 GODDARD Alfred Ernest C Marlbro' 5a 81 I am sure with distinctive names like that, you will be able to find their marriages yourself on FreeBMD, working out who they marry by looking them up in the next census. (I've done Anna Martha and Fred for you) If you don't have census access, let me know Anne South Australia Ruth wrote: > I have 1841-1901 census on parents, I am births of children, marriages are > lacking > I think Anna may have died march 1902 > Ruth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Chambers"<anne.chambers@bigpond.com> > To:<middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 6:43 PM > Subject: Re: [MDX] Hnery Goddard and Anna Abbott > > >> What sort of help are you looking for ? Have you found them in various >> censuses ? What certificates have you >> got ? >> >> Anne >> South Australia >> > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have 1841-1901 census on parents, I am births of children, marriages are lacking I think Anna may have died march 1902 Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Chambers" <anne.chambers@bigpond.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] Hnery Goddard and Anna Abbott > What sort of help are you looking for ? Have you found them in various > censuses ? What certificates have you > got ? > > Anne > South Australia >