this marriage is much too early but it's the only Samuel Ross/Sarah Ann Godfrey one on the LMA database (she is transcribed as Godpey) Samuel Robert Ross 14 Apr 1835 Sarah Ann Godfrey St Pancras Parish Church witnesses James Duncan, Mary Weathercott Where did you get the 1830 birthdate for Sarah Ann from ? Anne South Australia Richard Bailey wrote: > I am searching for the marriage of Samuel Ross b c 1815 and Sarah Ann > Godfrey bc 1830. She was Samuels first wife and had died by about 1853 - 55, > after having two children, > Maria in about 1852 St Giles and > Samuel Walter in 1853 Clerkenwell

Here are the baptisms of the two elder children Samuel Walter Ross b 6 March 1853 Baptism 20 Aug 1865 Samuel Bennett Ross, Fringe Weaver Elizabeth Adelaide Ross 4 Chapel Street Holy Trinity, Grays Inn Road Camden Maria Christiana Ross b 17 April 1851 Baptism 19 Nov 1869 Samuel Bennett Ross, Weaver Elizabeth Ross 47 Devonshire St St George the Martyr, Queen Square Camden Her birth does not seem to be on the FreeBMD index - it might pay you to get Samuel Walter's birth certificate to check who his mother is. Births Mar 1853 Ross Samuel Walter Clerkenwell 1b 450 Anne South Australia Richard Bailey wrote: > I am searching for the marriage of Samuel Ross b c 1815 and Sarah Ann > Godfrey bc 1830. She was Samuels first wife and had died by about 1853 - 55, > after having two children, > Maria in about 1852 St Giles and > Samuel Walter in 1853 Clerkenwell > > I cannot find her death either, but I do have the certificate for his > marriage to my G G Grandmother Elizabeth Adelaide Godfrey, Sarah's cousin. > > In the 1861 census, Samuel aged 46 and Elizabeth aged 30 are living at 3 > Bloomsbury St St. Giles Bloomsbury, with > Maria aged 9 born London St Andrews > Samuel Walter aged 8 born London Clerkenwell, > John Eyles ( my G Grandfather) aged 5 born London St Giles > Alice aged 1 born London St George the Martyr > > Samuel was a Fringe and Gaup Weaver. Can anyone explain what a gaup weaver > is? I have searched and haven't been able to find any reference for that. > What type of weaving was done in London? > > Samuel Walter and John Eyles Ross came out toMelbourne Australia on the > Lucibelle arriving in Dec 1865 They were aged 12 and 10. I haven't been able > to find the circumstances for their coming to Australia alone at such an > age. It was too early for the Bernardo scheme, but I presume it was through > some other benevolent society. > > I haven't found Samuels death either, but in the 1871 census, Elizabeth is > the Head of Household, with sons Arthur J Ross 8, Walter G Ross 5, living > at 49 Devonshire St St. George the Martyr. and by the 1881 census she was a > widow. She had remarried in 1872 to John Read and he died in 1877. > > If anyone could give me some clues on this family, or if you may be > connected, I would love to hear from you. > > Kind regards, > Nan Bailey > Queensland Aust > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can anyone tell me who lived at 28 Aldbridge street Walworth at the 1871 census .My G/grandmother gave birth to a daughter there in 1876,but in1881census house was listed as vacant.and I couldn`t find in 1871 census Thanks Peter Hutch

I am searching for the marriage of Samuel Ross b c 1815 and Sarah Ann Godfrey bc 1830. She was Samuels first wife and had died by about 1853 - 55, after having two children, Maria in about 1852 St Giles and Samuel Walter in 1853 Clerkenwell I cannot find her death either, but I do have the certificate for his marriage to my G G Grandmother Elizabeth Adelaide Godfrey, Sarah's cousin. In the 1861 census, Samuel aged 46 and Elizabeth aged 30 are living at 3 Bloomsbury St St. Giles Bloomsbury, with Maria aged 9 born London St Andrews Samuel Walter aged 8 born London Clerkenwell, John Eyles ( my G Grandfather) aged 5 born London St Giles Alice aged 1 born London St George the Martyr Samuel was a Fringe and Gaup Weaver. Can anyone explain what a gaup weaver is? I have searched and haven't been able to find any reference for that. What type of weaving was done in London? Samuel Walter and John Eyles Ross came out toMelbourne Australia on the Lucibelle arriving in Dec 1865 They were aged 12 and 10. I haven't been able to find the circumstances for their coming to Australia alone at such an age. It was too early for the Bernardo scheme, but I presume it was through some other benevolent society. I haven't found Samuels death either, but in the 1871 census, Elizabeth is the Head of Household, with sons Arthur J Ross 8, Walter G Ross 5, living at 49 Devonshire St St. George the Martyr. and by the 1881 census she was a widow. She had remarried in 1872 to John Read and he died in 1877. If anyone could give me some clues on this family, or if you may be connected, I would love to hear from you. Kind regards, Nan Bailey Queensland Aust

>From The Morning Post ( London, England ), Thursday, September 04, 1823; Issue 16444. MARRIED. At St. George's, Southwark, on the 2d inst., Mr. John Maynard OULTON , only son of the Author of " The Sleepwalker ", "Frightened To Death ", etc., to Miss Henrietta , sixth daughter of Erasmus GRACE , Esq., of Doris House, Kennington.

This Sunday 11th July 2010, 2pm - 4pm A chance to learn something of the history of the park, some of its better known "residents" and join members of the East London History Society in grave research. Next week, Sunday 18th June 2010, 2pm - Guided Walk Both events are free but donations will be welcome. For any further details contact via: http://www.towerhamletscemetery.org/index.html Ann Middx Admin

Olive Barlow married Jacob Hubbard on 27th October 1842 at All Saints Church in Fulham where they both lived. The witnesses were Henry Hackman and Stephen Webb, Olive's father.(All from marriage certificate) According to IGI, Olive had married Stephen Barlow on 16th November 1836 in Battersea. Free BMD shows Stephen's death as Jun quarter in 1840 in the district of Wandsworth Any information about these families and their ancestors much appreciated. Rick Smith Austwick North Yorkshire

This could be a useful site for listers. It has names of convicts sent to Australia in 1791. The place of sentence, & length of sentence, is included. Hope it helps some of you. Mick & Norma http://members.tip.net.au/~pdownes/dps/3rdflt.txt

Hello Rick, Have you tried searching using the name Henrietta, from which Ettie was sometimes derived? Estelle > From: ricksmith@austwick.org > To: Middlesex_County_UK@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 11:46:39 +0100 > Subject: [MDX] Ettie Wood/Hargreaves > > I am trying to find Ettie Wood in the census. She married Harry Roland Hargreaves on 3rd June 1903 and gave birth to Humphrey Roland on 29th October 1903 at 3 Alderwick Terrace Heston Hounslow. Harry who was a widower died in 1908. > > According to their marriage certificate, Ettie was the daughter of Joseph Wood a dry salter and was born in about 1876. However, according to the Commonwealth War Graves Commision web site, Ettie was born in 1873 (she was the first person killed in Brighton in an air raid) > > Unfortunately I do not have a copy of Ettie's 1911 census entry so am unable to confirm where she was born but may have been in Lancashire > > All help much appreciated > > Rick Smith > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/

Hi Anne Not much info for you, except that he was on the passenger list, so was not crew at that particular time. "The Wellington," Geo Browne, master, sailed London 10 Sept 1852. Arrived Port Phillip 2 Jan 1853. HORNE Wm 19 mariner, bound for Port Phillip. Hope this is of some help. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

CRAMPTON James married Mary Ann LAMBERTH 17 Nov. 1834 St. James, Paddington.1835-1839 their abode was 19 Hertford Street. Son = Robert James CROMPTON bap. 29 May 1836, Dau.= Mary Ann CRAMPTON bap. 20 Aug. 1837 Trinity Church St.Marylebone. Occupation: 1836 Servant,1837 Cabinet Maker,1839 Gentleman's Servant. 1. 19 Hertford Street: would this be a Mayfair address? If so, it seems an upmarket address for my humble ancestor. 2. Did servants and their families live downstairs? Can I find out who the Master/mistress was (1835-1839)? 3. This address now the H.Q. of the Mayfair Islamic Centre? Is it the 2010 building the original 1835 building? Rob QLD, AUS.

Just to add I said "With that in mind there is only one birth registered for an Ettie WOOD" I obviously didn't finish the sentence, it should have continued With that in mind there is only one birth registered for an Ettie WOOD (or WOODS) up to 1884 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Rick > > The first problem is knowing if "Ettie" was actually her name or an > abbreviation, I have generally found that the name given at marriage or > for official documentation is usually their correct name > > With that in mind there is only one birth registered for an Ettie WOOD > > Name: Ettie Wood > Year of Registration: 1873 > Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep > District: Barton Upon Irwell (1850-1934) > County: Lancashire > Volume: 8c > Page: 575

Hi Rick The first problem is knowing if "Ettie" was actually her name or an abbreviation, I have generally found that the name given at marriage or for official documentation is usually their correct name With that in mind there is only one birth registered for an Ettie WOOD Name: Ettie Wood Year of Registration: 1873 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Barton Upon Irwell (1850-1934) County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 575 In 1881 there is only one Ettie WOOD born around 1873 and happens to have a father Joseph although he is not a dry salter (the occupation may well be wrong is her father died some years before she gave the information as in the case of the Ettie found in 1881) Name: Joseph Wood Age: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sophia Gender: Male Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Headingley Cum Burley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 12 Midland Road Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Occupation: Commercial Clerk Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: Kirkstall ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Wood 53 Sophia Wood 43 Blanche Wood 16 Bertie R. Wood 14 Ernest E. Wood 12 Dora A. Wood 11 Eva M. Wood 9 Ettie Wood 7 Stretford Lancs Ashby S. Wood 5 Beatrice Wood 3 Nina M. Wood Phoebe Thorne MIL 81 Joseph had passed away by 1891 RG11; Piece: 4538; Folio: 11; Page: 15; GSU roll: 1342092. Name: Ettie Wood Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Sophia Gender: Female Where born: Stretford Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Headingley With Burley Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine Town: Headingley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: Kirkstall ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sophia Wood 50 Bertie R Wood 23 Ida M Wood 27 Dora A Wood 21 Ettie Wood 16 Smithson A Wood 15 Beatrice Wood 13 Nina M Wood 10 Charles G Wood 8 Phoebe Thorne 91 Annie Flowers 21 RG12; Piece: 3709; Folio 26; Page 6; GSU roll: 6098819. She is not obvious in 1901, there is one Ettie WOOD a sick nurse born Bowden Cheshire 1874 (there is no Ettie WOOD born Bowden Cheshire in the previous census) What did she give as an occupation on her marriage cert? and what address? Harry Roland HARGREAVES first marriage Name: Harry Roland Hargreaves Age: Full Age Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Spouse Name: Constance Ada Hughe Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 1 May 1879 Parish: St Leonard, Heston Road, Heston County: Middlesex Borough: Hounslow Father Name: James Henry Hargreaves Spouse Father Name: Timothy Hughe Harry was born in Leeds In the 1911 index there are possible children of Ettie & Harry in Leeds but that could be a coincidence There are two baptisms for her children on Ancestry Name: Humphrey Roland Hargreaves Record Type: Baptism Date: 18 Dec 1904 Father's Name: Harry Roland Hargreaves Mother's Name: Ettie Hargreaves Parish: Holy Trinity Borough: Hounslow County: Middlesex Name: Richard Ashley Hargreaves Record Type: Baptism Date: 23 Jul 1905 Father's Name: Harry Roland Hargreaves Mother's Name: Ettie Hargreaves Parish: St Stephen Borough: Hounslow County: Middlesex I suspect you need to put your hand in your pocket for the 1911 image Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I am trying to find Ettie Wood in the census. She married Harry Roland >Hargreaves on 3rd June 1903 and gave birth to Humphrey Roland on 29th >October 1903 at 3 Alderwick Terrace Heston Hounslow. Harry who was a >widower died in 1908. > > According to their marriage certificate, Ettie was the daughter of Joseph > Wood a dry salter and was born in about 1876. However, according to the > Commonwealth War Graves Commision web site, Ettie was born in 1873 (she > was the first person killed in Brighton in an air raid) > > Unfortunately I do not have a copy of Ettie's 1911 census entry so am > unable to confirm where she was born but may have been in Lancashire > > All help much appreciated > > Rick Smith

I am trying to find Ettie Wood in the census. She married Harry Roland Hargreaves on 3rd June 1903 and gave birth to Humphrey Roland on 29th October 1903 at 3 Alderwick Terrace Heston Hounslow. Harry who was a widower died in 1908. According to their marriage certificate, Ettie was the daughter of Joseph Wood a dry salter and was born in about 1876. However, according to the Commonwealth War Graves Commision web site, Ettie was born in 1873 (she was the first person killed in Brighton in an air raid) Unfortunately I do not have a copy of Ettie's 1911 census entry so am unable to confirm where she was born but may have been in Lancashire All help much appreciated Rick Smith

Anne also in the search box I've typed ships captain or ships crew too.... have you also tried www.theshipslist.com Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Chapman" <anne@chapman.id.au> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] William John HORNE -- Mariner > Hi Jenelle, > I did as you suggested and found the No 3 you suggested. Very good > information. I cannot order any of the books just at the moment -- > other bills to pay and a Chemical usage Certificate to upgrade (that > crew know how to charge for one day course) > I found when the "Dunedin" was built in 1851 in England. There must > have been two different "Wellington" ships though as the one they had on > the website was built in 1884. I looked very carefully at that to make > sure it was not 1834. > Thanks for your help in this matter. > > Jenelle McCarrick wrote: >> Anne, I'll walk you through it tomorrow very early start at work for me, >> but >> google Australian Maritime Museum, you should come up with a main >> page....see search box upper right hand corner I typed in seafarers, find >> No.3... >> go from there... >> I can see your email finish tomorrow at 10am from work will email you... >> Jenelle. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Rob There was and is a Hertford Street in Mayfair (just off the southern end of Park Lane, behind the Hilton Hotel), but given the place of baptism of Mary Ann, I think it more likely that the Hertford Street in question was the one a mile or so away in St Pancras. It formed the upper end of what is now Whitfield Street, and was only a short distance from Trinity Church. The best map to see these locations is probably this one: http://london1868.com/weller28.htm. Hope this helps Caroline > > CRAMPTON James married Mary Ann LAMBERTH 17 Nov. 1834 St. James, > Paddington.1835-1839 their abode was 19 Hertford Street. Son = Robert > James CROMPTON bap. 29 May 1836, Dau.= Mary Ann CRAMPTON bap. 20 Aug. > 1837 Trinity Church St.Marylebone. Occupation: 1836 Servant,1837 > Cabinet Maker,1839 Gentleman's Servant. > 1. 19 Hertford Street: would this be a Mayfair address? If so, it seems > an upmarket address for my humble ancestor. > 2. Did servants and their families live downstairs? Can I find out who > the Master/mistress was (1835-1839)? > 3. This address now the H.Q. of the Mayfair Islamic Centre? Is it the > 2010 building the original 1835 building? > > Rob QLD, AUS. > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Nivard. I think you are right about that. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] Sebastian Francis DOISY > Hi again > > On reflection the St is more likely to be an abbreviation for "Servant" to > Charles le GOUBE > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Hi Jan >> >> The date of the incoming list is 18th July *1836* >> >> I would suggest the St is possibly Lt (the rank Lieutenant)? >> >> The vessel is the Royal Sovereign >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> >> >> >>> According to ancestry.co.uk a possible relative arrived in London in 1806 >>> from Boulogne, France. The entry has been transcribed as St Sebastian >>> DOISY on the website. Can anyone tell me what the St means please? Also, >>> I cannot decipher the full name of the ship on which he arrived. Any help >>> would be appreciated. >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Jan >> > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jenelle, I did as you suggested and found the No 3 you suggested. Very good information. I cannot order any of the books just at the moment -- other bills to pay and a Chemical usage Certificate to upgrade (that crew know how to charge for one day course) I found when the "Dunedin" was built in 1851 in England. There must have been two different "Wellington" ships though as the one they had on the website was built in 1884. I looked very carefully at that to make sure it was not 1834. Thanks for your help in this matter. Jenelle McCarrick wrote: > Anne, I'll walk you through it tomorrow very early start at work for me, but > google Australian Maritime Museum, you should come up with a main > page....see search box upper right hand corner I typed in seafarers, find > No.3... > go from there... > I can see your email finish tomorrow at 10am from work will email you... > Jenelle. > ----- Original Message ----- >

Anne, I'll walk you through it tomorrow very early start at work for me, but google Australian Maritime Museum, you should come up with a main page....see search box upper right hand corner I typed in seafarers, find No.3... go from there... I can see your email finish tomorrow at 10am from work will email you... Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Chapman" <anne@chapman.id.au> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] William John HORNE -- Mariner > Jenelle, > I found the Mariners and Ships and got the info on the "Dunedin" > which was good, thank you, but could not find the Index on the Aust > Maritime Museum, or could not follow where to go when I clicked on the A > - Z button. Anne > > Jenelle McCarrick wrote: >> Have you also gone through Mariners and ships in Australian Waters and >> also >> the Australian Maritime Museum look at index for was your ancestor a >> seafarer, have ships captains, mates, etc. where born and where they got >> their certificates.. >> Jenelle. >> > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Jenelle, I found the Mariners and Ships and got the info on the "Dunedin" which was good, thank you, but could not find the Index on the Aust Maritime Museum, or could not follow where to go when I clicked on the A - Z button. Anne Jenelle McCarrick wrote: > Have you also gone through Mariners and ships in Australian Waters and also > the Australian Maritime Museum look at index for was your ancestor a > seafarer, have ships captains, mates, etc. where born and where they got > their certificates.. > Jenelle. >