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Hello I would like yo thank all of you who helped answer my questions on the baptism entry's at Bozeat. Thank you very much Hazel in NSW

Nivard Ovington wrote: > This came up with a little g'googling > > Sacred Heart Church > 112 Horseferry Road, > London, > SW1P 2EF > > Any use ? Brilliant! Thank you very much. That's a great help :)) I didn't think it would be *that* easy <G> Nor was I expecting anything relevant to still be there. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

This came up with a little g'googling Sacred Heart Church 112 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2EF Any use ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I have an incoming relative, a Sister of Mercy, whose destination > address is given as 112a Horseferry Road, Westminster. > > Could someone tell me if that was a convent, hostel/hotel or private > residence please? > > -- > Charani (UK)

I have an incoming relative, a Sister of Mercy, whose destination address is given as 112a Horseferry Road, Westminster. Could someone tell me if that was a convent, hostel/hotel or private residence please? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi Doug, A dictionary that gives a medical definition of "Affection" says: Disease; morbid symptom; malady; as, a pulmonary affection. Hope this helps in some way, regards, Jon

I hope someone can help here. The death certificate of one of my ancestors gives the cause of death as "affection of the bowels". He was 37 years old when he died, a yeoman farmer. I'm struggling to find out what precisely was an affection of the bowels? Would it have been a long, debilitating illness? What were the symptoms, or likely causes? Any help would be much appreciated. Many thanks Doug

Hi Hazel, Could the entry with the words "Omitted into proper place" and the date, be because when the register was filled out this entry got left out in error and was later added to the register with the note about being omitted? Where on the page does that baptism appear? Is the date of baptism given for the baptism out of order in the register? In that entry are there perhaps 2 dates, one being the date of the baptism and the other being the date the omission was added to the register, as a correction might be added to any document? If you see what I mean? Did you find the baptism in the actual Parish Register or in the Bishop's Transcripts of them? It could be that if you found it in the BTs then it could have been omitted in the copying when the PRs were copied to make up the BTs and so the entry was added at the end with the note of it's having been omitted in it's proper place? It all depends on how the entry is written up and whether it is shown out of date order, perhaps at the bottom of the page or something. Otherwise, if the entry is in the correct date order of the PR/BT then Ann is probably right and it should read Admission, as in being received into the church. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. >>I am researching a family in Bozeat and on a few of the baptisms it reads: > "baptised private" does this mean a home baptism due to the possibilty the > child is sick. > Another baptism gives the childs name and the parents and the words > "omitted into proper place followed by a date".<<

Hazel, I presume this is not the child who was privately baptised, but a different one. This wording normally indicates that a baptism record was entered out of chronological order (in error) when the register was being copied up. HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Chambers I think the other would have ben "admitted" rather than 'omitted', means the child was formally received into the church after a private baptism (not baptised again). -----Original Message----- Hazel Magann wrote: > Another baptism gives the childs name and the parents and the words "omitted into proper place followed by a date".

"private baptism" means that, for whatever reason, the child was baptised at home. I think the other would have ben "admitted" rather than 'omitted', means the child was formally received into the church after a private baptism (not baptised again). Anne South Australia Hazel Magann wrote: > Hello > I am researching a family in Bozeat and on a few of the baptisms it reads: > > "baptised private" does this mean a home baptism due to the possibilty the child is sick. > > Another baptism gives the childs name and the parents and the words "omitted into proper place followed by a date". > > Thank you so much for any assistance. > > > Hazel in NSW

Hello I am researching a family in Bozeat and on a few of the baptisms it reads: "baptised private" does this mean a home baptism due to the possibilty the child is sick. Another baptism gives the childs name and the parents and the words "omitted into proper place followed by a date". Thank you so much for any assistance. Hazel in NSW

Hazel, Depending on the date midwives were empowered to conduct baptisms i8f the baby was at risk. HTH Peter Hello I am researching a family in Bozeat and on a few of the baptisms it reads: "baptised private" does this mean a home baptism due to the possibilty the child is sick. Another baptism gives the childs name and the parents and the words "omitted into proper place followed by a date". Thank you so much for any assistance. Hazel in NSW

You have, no doubt, found this on the LMA database ? Frances Dorothy Haylock 31 Oct 1850 Joseph Locke St Mary, Bryanston Square Frances is here in 1841 Class: HO107; Piece 71; Book: 12; Civil Parish: West Wratting; County: Cambridgeshire; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 6; Page: 7; Line: 3; Anne Nivard Ovington wrote: > Thanks Anne > > I have had no dealings with Cumberland so had no idea of the places there , > I used to use the gazetteer on old maps but they have mucked about with the > site to the point where its unusable now > > I thought it said Working as well but could not find anything like it > > They are proving to be quite elusive > > Thanks again > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >

I find this a very useful gazetteer search tool - you can search for parts of words http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Gazetteer/ Anne Nivard Ovington wrote: > Thanks Anne > > I have had no dealings with Cumberland so had no idea of the places there , > I used to use the gazetteer on old maps but they have mucked about with the > site to the point where its unusable now > > I thought it said Working as well but could not find anything like it > > They are proving to be quite elusive > > Thanks again > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Cumberland might it be Working *(ton) *hidden under the clerk's mark ? It could be either 31 ior 37, I'd go for the former Anne South Australia Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi all > > I wonder if anyone would cast their eye over the following 1851 entry > > Name: Joseph Lock > Age: 31 > Estimated birth year: abt 1820 > Relation: Head > Spouse's name: Francis D > Gender: Male > Where born: Wookey, Cumberland, England > Civil parish: St Marylebone > Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch > County/Island: Middlesex > Country: England > Registration district: Marylebone > Sub-registration district: St John > ED, institution, or vessel: 4 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household schedule number: 83 > Household Members: > Name Age > Joseph Lock 31 > Francis D Lock 36 > > HO107; Piece: 1491; Folio: 132; Page: 15; GSU roll: 87819-87820. > > > I am trying to decipher the birth place of Joseph > > I think the age of Joseph LOCK is 37 on the page rather than 31 > > frances Dorothy (nee HAYLOCK) was born in West Wratting Cambridgeshire > > I have their marriage as follows > > 1850 Marriage solemnized at St Marys Church in the Parish of St Marylebone > in the County of Middlesex > October 31st 1850 > Joseph Locke of full age bachelor Stonemason 13 Earl Street Simon Locke > Stonemason > Frances Dorothy Haylock of full age spinster -- 14 Adam St West Edward > Haylock (dec) Gentleman > By Banns > Both signed > Witnesses George Wadwick?& John Haylock& Constantine Whittinman? > > I can find no trace of them after 1851 , they may have emigrated as many of > the family did , mostly New Zealand and Australia > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

One ancestor of ours noted "private baptism' was because the baby was born after his father had just died. Could be one explanation. Margaret in Canada On 2010-08-13, at 5:10 PM, Hazel Magann wrote: > Hello > I am researching a family in Bozeat and on a few of the baptisms it reads: > > "baptised private" does this mean a home baptism due to the possibilty the child is sick. > > Another baptism gives the childs name and the parents and the words "omitted into proper place followed by a date". > > Thank you so much for any assistance. > > > Hazel in NSW > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you all the same All input helps One of the benefits of list posting is that opinions can be sought and given , then anyone asking a similar question in the future may benefit from the thread Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > There is a slight mark which could make the age 37 although it is not like > the 7 on the following page. It does look like Working but the "t" of > Workington would surely appear where the line divides the columns above > the enumerator's mark if the 'ton' was there. > > Not much help I'm afraid. > > WS

There is a slight mark which could make the age 37 although it is not like the 7 on the following page. It does look like Working but the "t" of Workington would surely appear where the line divides the columns above the enumerator's mark if the 'ton' was there. Not much help I'm afraid. WS

Thanks again Anne And yes, I had found it my transcript of the marriage was in the first post I have the HAYLOCKs back to 1530 , the only line I can take back that far There are one or two of the later ones who still present a problem though :-( Frances Dorothy is the next youngest sister of my g.g.grandmother she married late, had no children that I am aware of and have not found a trace of her or hubby after 1851, this has been the same situation for about ten years One day something may pop up Thanks again Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > You have, no doubt, found this on the LMA database ? > Frances Dorothy Haylock 31 Oct 1850 Joseph Locke St Mary, Bryanston > Square > > Frances is here in 1841 > Class: HO107; Piece 71; Book: 12; Civil Parish: West Wratting; County: > Cambridgeshire; Enumeration District: > 4; Folio: 6; Page: 7; Line: 3; > > Anne

Thanks Lawrence Appreciate your thoughts on it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard > > I am sure the first letter of the pob is a W - compare the first letter of > the pob a few lines down, which I read as Wokingham. I thnik Anne's > suggestion of Workington is spot on. But I agree with you that the age is > 37 vice 31. > > Lawrence