Thanks Nivard. Ann was Ann Holland, the wife of David's brother, Dirk. I am now trying to find an MI for the Vanderheydens at Isleworth. David -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 28 August 2010 15:17 To: MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] VANDERHEYDEN/ All Saints, Isleworth One more Name: Ann Vanderhayden Record Type: Burial Event Date: 12 Aug 1831 Age: 66 Estimated birth year: abt 1765 Parish: St Mark, Kennington Borough: Lambeth County: Middlesex Abode = Oval Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > David VANDERHEYDEN was born in Albany, New York in 1731/32. He died at > Isleworth, Middlesex in 1805. His wife was Mrs Poyer VANDERHEYDEN who died > in 1818. She was buried at All Saints, Isleworth. > > Does anyone know anything of the Vanderheydens at Isleworth or know of a > Vanderheyden grave at All Saints? > > David Railton ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One more Name: Ann Vanderhayden Record Type: Burial Event Date: 12 Aug 1831 Age: 66 Estimated birth year: abt 1765 Parish: St Mark, Kennington Borough: Lambeth County: Middlesex Abode = Oval Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > David VANDERHEYDEN was born in Albany, New York in 1731/32. He died at > Isleworth, Middlesex in 1805. His wife was Mrs Poyer VANDERHEYDEN who died > in 1818. She was buried at All Saints, Isleworth. > > Does anyone know anything of the Vanderheydens at Isleworth or know of a > Vanderheyden grave at All Saints? > > David Railton

Hi David Only one in the 1813 - 1980 deaths / burials on Ancestry Hounslow All Saints Isleworth 1818 Burials No548 Mrs Poyer VANDERHEYDEN Abode = St Marylebone Buried = Feby 28th 1818 Age = 83 John MITCHEL Curate There may be more pre 1813 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > David VANDERHEYDEN was born in Albany, New York in 1731/32. He died at > Isleworth, Middlesex in 1805. His wife was Mrs Poyer VANDERHEYDEN who died > in 1818. She was buried at All Saints, Isleworth. > > Does anyone know anything of the Vanderheydens at Isleworth or know of a > Vanderheyden grave at All Saints? > > David Railton

I have a collection of Middlesex M.I.s including those for Isleworth, which I plan to put 'up' at some point. Anyway, there is no Vanderheyden in them. One should point out that only a small proportion of people left inscribed memorials, and of those only a small proportion survived to be copied. I also have a so far unchecked copy of Isleworth baptisms and burials to 1841 typed by one of the kind people who are helping enter records from typed and manuscript material sent them over the internet; I hope these will be available in the next few months on CD and probably on some internet access too. Isleworth registers are not deposited at LMA; the Ancestry images are taken from the BTs which are so deposited but only start very late. This does show David Vanderheyden as being buried 13 Aug 1806 (not 1805) aged 74 and Poyer aged 83 28 Feb 1818. These are the only two and no baptisms are recorded in Isleworth up to 1852. Regards Cliff Webb

David VANDERHEYDEN was born in Albany, New York in 1731/32. He died at Isleworth, Middlesex in 1805. His wife was Mrs Poyer VANDERHEYDEN who died in 1818. She was buried at All Saints, Isleworth. Does anyone know anything of the Vanderheydens at Isleworth or know of a Vanderheyden grave at All Saints? David Railton

Hi, looking for sources or info on FORD in St Margaret Westminster. Info I have is from 1841-1861 census records. I am after any info, or places I could reasonably look for info given living in Sydney Australia on: possibility of additional siblings parents (and further back) marriage for FORD-YOUNG likely before 1833 when Francis Samuel Jr was born I will be looking at getting a couple of certificates shortly to confirm info and they may have some additional clues, but some certificates seem to have info of use and others don't. I am spending my childrens inheritance on their ancestors!!!! Sisters: Fanny FORD b 1801 married Francis Samuel YOUNG died 1876 Sophia FORD 1798-1863 never married Catherine (sometimes Katherine) FORD 1796-?? (not in 1871 census). never married. I have tried a general search under FORD born or living in Middlesex but did not find anything under the 1841 or 1851 census that might give any leads in the short term as there are sooo many. Thanks Shannon Queree

At 11:02 AM 27/08/2010, you wrote: >Looking for CARMODY, Patrick and Nora + about 10-11 children in >Middlesex, possibly W. Ham Hi Pat It is not advisable to ask for look-ups for the 1911 census as those who have subscriptions to that facility may have their subscriptions cancelled if they do that for you, according to the rules and regulations. FindMyPast, for instance, have the authority to discontinue subscriptions. See if you can find some other way of getting around this little problem. i.e. do you have any indication of where the children may have been baptised? Have you checked FreeBMD for births? Possibly, someone may be able to look for you on the 1901 at Ancestry.com (hope so, anyway) which such regs do not apply, but certainly not the 1911 which is monitored for breaches of regulations. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Looking for CARMODY, Patrick and Nora + about 10-11 children in Middlesex, possibly W. Ham I appreciate the look up of possibly relatives. Thank you!

Hi all, I have been lurking on this list for quite sometime but this is the first time I have posted. I am hoping SKS can help me with the occupation or what is written there for Leonard T Searles of Morgan St. Unfortunately I can't make any sense of it at all. The details are: HO107; Piece: 1547; Folio: 235; Page: 55 Any help at all would be most welcome. Kind Regards Sue Western Australia

Hi Michael After the Napoleonic campaign there was a huge excess of Military personnel so many were laid off, demobbed, released (whatever you want to term it) As were many of the Officers , those that were kept on but there was not a position for but they were deemed to be worthwhile keeping on the list were put on half pay, a retainer of sorts In a similar way the Royal Navy put some Officers on HP whilst at home and there was not a position available It did not apply to the ordinary soldier or sailor OED defines it as :- 1. Half the usual or full wages or salary; a reduced allowance to an officer in the army or navy when not in actual service, or after retirement at a prescribed time. Generally you can usually draw a conclusion based on the age, in this case he is 71 so clearly to old for active service As far as Pensioner is concerned it could apply to someone who was injured whilst in service or had reached his length of service Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Can I double check this please? I believed that a serviceman on Half Pay > was and active and available Serviceman for whom there was no opening. > For > example after the Napoleonic War had finished, the size of our forces was > dramatically reduced and those who might be needed in the event of another > crisis were put on Half Pay. > A pensioner means to me an individual who has completed their working > period > Michael

Can I double check this please? I believed that a serviceman on Half Pay was and active and available Serviceman for whom there was no opening. For example after the Napoleonic War had finished, the size of our forces was dramatically reduced and those who might be needed in the event of another crisis were put on Half Pay. A pensioner means to me an individual who has completed their working period Michael -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 26 August 2010 13:22 To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] SEARLES - 1851 Census occupation help required. Hi Sue H(alf) Pay Field Train Artillery In other words an Army Pensioner Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi all, > > I have been lurking on this list for quite sometime but this is the first > time I have posted. I am hoping SKS can help me with the occupation or > what is written there for Leonard T Searles of Morgan St. Unfortunately I > can't make any sense of it at all. > > The details are: HO107; Piece: 1547; Folio: 235; Page: 55 > > Any help at all would be most welcome. > > Kind Regards > > Sue > Western Australia ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3094 - Release Date: 08/25/10 19:34:00

Hi Sue H(alf) Pay Field Train Artillery In other words an Army Pensioner Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi all, > > I have been lurking on this list for quite sometime but this is the first > time I have posted. I am hoping SKS can help me with the occupation or > what is written there for Leonard T Searles of Morgan St. Unfortunately I > can't make any sense of it at all. > > The details are: HO107; Piece: 1547; Folio: 235; Page: 55 > > Any help at all would be most welcome. > > Kind Regards > > Sue > Western Australia

  Thanks to all who replied with information re the Albert William WEST baptism lookup. Glenys ________________________________

Only the fireplace mantel is spelled differently! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Price" <genetree@tpg.com.au> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] mantle wa. > Of course it may well be mantle as in fireplace mantle - you would > certainly need a warehouse for them with their various designs. > Cheers > Graham > Melbourne > Oz > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks for all the replies. Walter went to the USA in 1857 aboard "Liverpool" from London. He was recorded as a draper on the passenger list. and , now I think of it, two spinster sisters, Matilda and Charlotte, were recorded in UK census records as Cloakmakers. I found him in US Tax Assessments as a liquor dealer before his untimely death in 1867. Our handwritten family records have him married to a Martha GOOCH but I have found no evidence of a wife. Thanks all, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.M.de Montalk" <jmdemontalk@xtra.co.nz> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] mantle wa. > Only the fireplace mantel is spelled differently! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Price" <genetree@tpg.com.au> > To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:10 PM > Subject: Re: [MDX] mantle wa. > > >> Of course it may well be mantle as in fireplace mantle - you would >> certainly need a warehouse for them with their various designs. >> Cheers >> Graham >> Melbourne >> Oz >> >> ************************************** >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

After a bit of Googling: The 1861 census reference for Middle Queens buildings, according to TNA, is Brompton Road South side Middle Queens Buildings 1-11 RG 9/20 28-29 No 7 Middle Queens buildings RG9; Piece: 20; Folio: 28; Page: 50; was occupied by Willm Dobbinson Stewart 29 Warehouseman Ellen Jane Stewart 25 Milliner Georgina Eliza Hornan 29 Saleswoman Harriett Elizabeth Western 24 Saleswoman Florence Eliza Summers 17 Saleswoman Mary Madeline Hood 21 Apprentice Milliner Ellen Sprong 19 Apprentice Milliner Sarah Esther Mason 21 Milliner Louisa Haiden 20 Domestic Servant So - a fashion wholesale/retail warehouse, specialising in hats and cloaks (mantles) Anne South Australia Neil & Jan Hearn wrote: > Hello, > I wonder if anyone can tell me what the occupation of my relative listed in 1856 London PO Directory was please? > Walter Cecil HASKEW; mantle wa. 7 Mid. Queens buildings, Brompton is the listing. > > Thanks. > > Jan > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 05:03 PM 25/08/2010, you wrote: >Only the fireplace mantel is spelled differently! >----- Original Message ----- Yus, I undoubtedly got caught up with the American version ;-) Graham

Of course it may well be mantle as in fireplace mantle - you would certainly need a warehouse for them with their various designs. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

If it is mantle as in gaslights, as Anne suggests, then the wa could be warehouse. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Jan, Would Walter Haskew have been something to do with making the mantles for the gas lights. Just a thought. Anne Neil & Jan Hearn wrote: > Hello, > I wonder if anyone can tell me what the occupation of my relative listed in 1856 London PO Directory was please? > Walter Cecil HASKEW; mantle wa. 7 Mid. Queens buildings, Brompton is the listing. > > Thanks. > > Jan > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >