I've just had a quick browse through the St Mary Whitechapel (Borough Tower Hamlets) images for 1784/5 on Ancestry John Rolfe son of Isaac and Elizabeth, Chamber Street, was baptised on 5 July 1784 I'll send the image Anne South Australia mcreyn02@tpg.com.au wrote: > My longstanding brick wall is the parents of John ROLFE, born 1781 or 1783, > and his sister Mary Ann ROLFE, born 1785 in Whitechapel. > > What is the most like church in Whitechapel at that time where I may find > their baptisms? > > Thanks for any help, > Maureen in Sydney

My longstanding brick wall is the parents of John ROLFE, born 1781 or 1783, and his sister Mary Ann ROLFE, born 1785 in Whitechapel. What is the most like church in Whitechapel at that time where I may find their baptisms? Thanks for any help, Maureen in Sydney

Helen, try www.parishregister.com. they have a wonderful search engine for free and buying any results are cheap. They also sell the cd's. Robyn Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Ginn" <ginn@ebtech.net> To: <MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:07 AM Subject: [MDX] Parish records - All Saints,(Poplar Middlesex) ATHERTON surname > Listers: > > I had been looking at a page on the familysearch.org library catalogue > for All Saints Poplar Middlesex but for some reason my browser will not > connect to any of the links listed that show parish records. I am > trying to find microfilm that might have years starting circa 1790 to > 1860. Does anyone out there know of film numbers that can be ordered > from Salt Lake? > > I am searching for connections to Thomas ATHERTON, born circa 1790 more > or less. I have a marriage record from St. Botolph Bishopsgate dating > to 1810 for Thomas ATHERTON but of course the document has very little > detail, no age or parents etc. listed. I believe there were two > ATHERTON children born, one Thomas George in 1814 and Ann in 1820. > > Any help would be very much appreciated. > > Kind regards, > Helen Ginn > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 19 Sep 2010, at 18:34, W. D. Jones wrote: This is what the website says: "The original All Saints building was opened in 1838 and for a time was known as All Saints Battlebridge or Battle Bridge. Its location on the corner of All Saints Street and Caledonian Road was redeveloped in 1977 and the congregation moved in to the present site which was the church hall." I think by 'redeveloped' it means that the original building - a picture of which appears on the website - was demolished. A photo of the current congregation, some of whom appear to be waving their arms in the air, shows them to be in a modern building. JH > Does anybody know if this church still exists? Several of my MOORE > ancestors were christened here, but I cannot figure from its website > if the church structure remains as it was in the 1840s. > > Many thanks. > > Bill Jones.

Helen, I took a look on Ancestry.com and found: A baptism for Thomas George Atherton on 15 Jan 1815, son of Thomas Atherton & Joanna Atherton A baptism for an Ann Atherton on 24 Sept. 1820 daughter of Thomas Atherton and Joanna Atherton. Both baptism were at All Saints, Poplar, Tower Hamlets found in the database London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 I took a look at the page and it seems that on the same day as Thomas George's baptism there was a lso a Susanna Atherton with the same parents listed. I will send the images to your email.  I will look for a marriage record also. Theresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Ginn" <ginn@ebtech.net> To: <MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:07 AM Subject: [MDX] Parish records - All Saints,(Poplar Middlesex) ATHERTON surname > Listers: > > I had been looking at a page on the familysearch.org library catalogue > for All Saints Poplar Middlesex but for some reason my browser will not > connect to any of the links listed that show parish records.  I am > trying to find microfilm that might have years starting circa 1790 to > 1860.  Does anyone out there know of film numbers that can be ordered > from Salt Lake? > > I am searching for connections to Thomas ATHERTON, born circa 1790 more > or less.  I have a marriage record from St. Botolph Bishopsgate dating > to 1810 for Thomas ATHERTON but of course the document has very little > detail, no age or parents etc. listed.  I believe there were two > ATHERTON children born, one Thomas George in 1814 and Ann in 1820. > > Any help would be very much appreciated. > > Kind regards, > Helen Ginn > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has a quick look and it could be this one - Film Number 569205 Item 1 Hope this Helps. Ingrid Billings -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Helen Ginn Sent: 19 September 2010 18:08 To: MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDX] Parish records - All Saints, (Poplar Middlesex) ATHERTON surname Listers: I had been looking at a page on the familysearch.org library catalogue for All Saints Poplar Middlesex but for some reason my browser will not connect to any of the links listed that show parish records. I am trying to find microfilm that might have years starting circa 1790 to 1860. Does anyone out there know of film numbers that can be ordered from Salt Lake? I am searching for connections to Thomas ATHERTON, born circa 1790 more or less. I have a marriage record from St. Botolph Bishopsgate dating to 1810 for Thomas ATHERTON but of course the document has very little detail, no age or parents etc. listed. I believe there were two ATHERTON children born, one Thomas George in 1814 and Ann in 1820. Any help would be very much appreciated. Kind regards, Helen Ginn ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello fellow listers, I am researching my family history and have come up against a bit of a wall. Would any one be researching the above people? William had been married before but do not know to whom. They had four children by the names of Robert b. about 1885 Lillie/Lillian b. about 1888 James b. about 1890 Ada b. about 1892 After his first wife died William married my great granmother Annie Rolfe (nee Wingfield) a widow in 1897 and then they had a son named Arthur Edward Llewellyn b. 1899 in Edmonton, Middlesex, England. In 1905 Annie, Ada, and Arthur came here to Canada. Toronto and lived at 225 Victoria St. I lost them both after that but found Arthur in 1943 when he stood up for one of my aunts and uncles when they married and again have lost him. I would like to know if any of the other members of this family had been in touch by letter with Arthur and his family. The last I had heard and on the marriage info of the aunt and uncle who got married Arthur was living in Malton, Ontario, Canada in 1943. Would love to get info and pictures. Have info and pics too of the children that Annie Rolfe had before my gr grandfather died in 1891 in England. These would be Arthur's half brothers and sister. Any help is muchly and greatfully appreciated. Sharon

Can anyone tell me if parish records for All Saints, Isleworth are available on-line or if there is a cd of them that can be purchased? The period I am interested in is 1750 - 1850. David

Can anyone please direct me to a source for detailed maps of Isleworth for the period 1780 -1840? The particular area I am interested in is the site now occupied by Nazareth House, Richmond Road, Isleworth TW7 7BP. David

Does anybody know if this church still exists? Several of my MOORE ancestors were christened here, but I cannot figure from its website if the church structure remains as it was in the 1840s. Many thanks. Bill Jones.

Listers: I had been looking at a page on the familysearch.org library catalogue for All Saints Poplar Middlesex but for some reason my browser will not connect to any of the links listed that show parish records. I am trying to find microfilm that might have years starting circa 1790 to 1860. Does anyone out there know of film numbers that can be ordered from Salt Lake? I am searching for connections to Thomas ATHERTON, born circa 1790 more or less. I have a marriage record from St. Botolph Bishopsgate dating to 1810 for Thomas ATHERTON but of course the document has very little detail, no age or parents etc. listed. I believe there were two ATHERTON children born, one Thomas George in 1814 and Ann in 1820. Any help would be very much appreciated. Kind regards, Helen Ginn

Many thanks to Anne Chambers and Nivard Ovington for their assistance. It was a great help. regards Norman Jessup Sydney

I wonder if anyone is able to help me translate an entry on the 1851 census. The reference is HO.107 1702 and the address is 23 High Street Hornsy, Winchester Hall. The item that is causing me trouble is the occupation of William MARRINER, 19, who is listed as the nephew of the head of household (Giles REDMAYNE). The occupation looks to be something like: Exibitioner Sim: Col Ox I believe an Exhibition at Oxford University is a form of scholarship. Is this what its likely to mean or is it something completely different ? Thanks Norman Jessup

I think it's Lin. Col. so probably Lincoln College (Linacre College wasn't founded until 1962) Apparently there were only 12 of them Anne South Australia Norman Jessup wrote: > I wonder if anyone is able to help me translate an entry on the 1851 census. The reference is HO.107 1702 > and the address is 23 High Street Hornsy, Winchester Hall. > > The item that is causing me trouble is the occupation of William MARRINER, 19, who is listed as the nephew > of the head of household (Giles REDMAYNE). The occupation looks to be something like: > > Exibitioner Sim: Col Ox > > I believe an Exhibition at Oxford University is a form of scholarship. Is this what its likely to mean or > is it something completely different ? > > Thanks > > Norman Jessup

I have seen a record of a David FRANKS of Isleworth, formerly of Philadelphia, whose will was proved in 1794. This may well be the David FRANKS, son of Jacob Franks and Buelah Abigail Levy, who was born at New York in 1720. I have also seen reference to a Mrs Franks who had Vanderheyden House at Isleworth demolished in about 1835. I believe that she may be of the same family. Can anyone tell me anything of this FRANK (FRANCK) family at Isleworth? Thank you. David

H Anne, Thank you very much for your help. It seems as though the James Yates I am looking for was not the one marrying Emily Matilda Dunn. It is possible that mine died young as I have not been able to find any information on him. I did actually have all the other information that you sent. I was just looking for this James Yates Grimwood to fill in the blanks in my family tree as he was an older brother of John Yates Grimwood. I am still looking to find parents for the Sarah Grimwood who had the illegitimate James Yates Grimwood. Thank you for your help. Sue in Suffolk

A possible addition Probate Calendar 1908 MARRINER the reverend William of Salisbury gardens Ventnor Isle of Wight clerk died 29 December 1907 Probate Winchester 15 February to Jane Caroline Marriner widow and John Sumner Marriner solicitor Effects £1037 2s The death reg seems to lend weight to the argument it is he Name: William Marriner Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Year of Registration: 1907 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 75 District: Isle of Wight County: Hampshire, Isle of Wight Volume: 2b Page: 381 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Norman > > Oxford University Alumni, 1500-1886 > Vol III > > MARRINER William, 1s. John, of Darlington, co. Durham, cler. LINCOLN COLL. > matric. 26 March, 1851, aged 19; exhibitioner 1851 - 6, S.C.L. 1855, B.A. > & M.A. 1880, held various curacies 1855 - 67, rector of Baughurst, Hants, > 1867 > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >

Hi David Can you post the details from the marriage cert and we can them perhaps help you (or post the certificate somewhere so we can see it) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS do remember to delete all the irrelevant text when posting using a digest :-) >I have a marriage certificate for a grt uncle in October 1847. My problem > is finding the couple in the 1851 census. Their address on the > certificate > is not easy to read but appears to be Menster Ground. > > Can anybody advise me as to what this address actually was? > > Thanks > > David Cork > (researching Crossland in Islington/Whitechapel)

Hi Norman Oxford University Alumni, 1500-1886 Vol III MARRINER William, 1s. John, of Darlington, co. Durham, cler. LINCOLN COLL. matric. 26 March, 1851, aged 19; exhibitioner 1851 - 6, S.C.L. 1855, B.A. & M.A. 1880, held various curacies 1855 - 67, rector of Baughurst, Hants, 1867 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I wonder if anyone is able to help me translate an entry on the 1851 > census. The reference is HO.107 1702 and the address is 23 High Street > Hornsy, Winchester Hall. > > The item that is causing me trouble is the occupation of William > MARRINER, 19, who is listed as the nephew of the head of household > (Giles REDMAYNE). The occupation looks to be something like: > > Exibitioner Sim: Col Ox > > I believe an Exhibition at Oxford University is a form of scholarship. > Is this what its likely to mean or is it something completely different ? > > Thanks > > Norman Jessup

From Ancestry's London Metropolitan Archives database Baptism 16 Sep 1849 St Bride Fleet Street City of London James Yates Grimwood born Aug 27 Father James Yates Grimwood, Provision Dealer Mother Mary Ann Grimwood 15 Whitefriars Street There was also a sister Sarah Sarah Yates Grimwood b Nov 2 Baptism 19 Dec 1847 James Yates Grimwood,Green Grocer Mary Ann Grimwood St Bride Fleet Street City of London same address their marriage 5 May 1845 St Andrew Holborn Mary Ann Cooper 21 Spinster Shoe Lane father John Cooper Baker James Yates Grimwood 21 Bachelor Green Grocer father James Yates Grimwood Greengrocer both signed witnesses John Cooper, Sarah Cooper Marriages Jun 1845 Cooper Mary Ann Wt London 2 260 Grimwood James Yates Wt London 2 260 father's baptism Baptism 25 Jan 1831 St Andrew Holborn City of London James Yates Grimwood born 25 May 1824 illegitimate son of Sarah Grimwood St Brides mother's baptism Baptism 19 Nov 1823 St Paul, Hammersmith Hammersmith and Fulham Mary Ann Cooper Father John Cooper, Baker Mother Elizabeth Cooper Hammersmith No birth date given there is this marriage James Yates abt 1868 15 Jul 1868 Emily Matilda Dunn St Mary, Newington but he says his father is William Yates, currier Anne South Australia Sue wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if anyone can help. I have a James Yates Grimwood born 27 August 1849 in St. Brides, Fleet > Street. I believe he may be the James Yates married to Emily Yates in the 1871 Census living at Rodney > Road St. Mary Newington. If this is the James I am looing for his mother Mary Ann Yates Grimwood died in > Newington in 1864. It appears that by this time they had dropped the Grimwood in favour of Yates. > > Please can anyone help. > > Thank you > > Sue in Suffolk