Pat Lewis wrote: >> It's my last hope of ever finding out a possibility of info on my >> direct Carmody family. Unfortunately, I cannot get thru the genes site >> to post a message direct nor find the ones you mention. I've found the same thing with Genes Reunited. It seems you have to register to find out you have to pay 65GBP in order to contact members who may not even reply. Very disappointing, esp as the lead Jan gave me showed there was someone there who was a cousin twice over, ie a cousin to me on two different lines! -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

I have copies of some indentures from the Middlesex Deeds Registry and was hoping someone might be able to explain to me the land transactions. The first is 4/392 dated 23 Feb 1855 James Rose did “grant bargain sell & demise” unto Edward Penton & William Snowdon Yard property on the south side of Francis Street no.19 for a term of 21 years. It mentions a previous indenture I still need to obtain. Second on 4 Oct 1858 indenture 13/127 James Rose’s son William George Rose (admon of James Rose late of no. 19 Francis Street) did “grant bargain sell & demise” unto Catherine Rose widow of 19 Francis that same piece of property along with others on Upper Chenies Mews. James Rose died Feb 1856 and I have found no will or probate records. A third indenture 14/422 dated 9 Nov 1858 Catherine Rose did “grant bargain sell & demise” the same no.19 Francis Street to John Woodward for a term of 21 years. She is still living at no. 19 Francis Street. Three other indentures in Dec 1858 Catherine Rose is late of no.19 Francis Street but now of Huntley Street and is selling/transferring the other properties on Upper Chenies Mews. It makes sense to me in the second indenture the property is being transferred to the widow from her son but wasn’t the property already sold/transferred from the first indenture? I understand that sometimes land was used to raise capital and if this is the case in the first indenture how is it different from the third where it seems the property finally did change hands? The wording in all of them is almost identical. Also, does anyone know if what was no. 19 Francis Street is still there? I believe Francis Street is now called Torrington Place. Thank you in advance, Val in CT

Obviously I got way ahead of myself and the census - meant to say 1911. Begin forwarded message: > From: Pat Lewis <carmodyp@bellsouth.net> > Date: September 29, 2010 10:55:46 AM EDT > To: "rootsweb.com middlesex_county_uk" > <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com>, Neil Jan Hearn & > <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> > Subject: [MDX] thank you > Reply-To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com > > Thank you so very much for reply. I have now managed to get a clearer > copy of 1991 census of the whole Patrick Carmody family, and someone is > going to try and check on Genes Reunited for me to see IF anyone on > there has any relationship to the family. > It's my last hope of ever finding out a possibility of info on my > direct Carmody family. Unfortunately, I cannot get thru the genes site > to post a message direct nor find the ones you mention. > Thank again. > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you so very much for reply. I have now managed to get a clearer copy of 1991 census of the whole Patrick Carmody family, and someone is going to try and check on Genes Reunited for me to see IF anyone on there has any relationship to the family. It's my last hope of ever finding out a possibility of info on my direct Carmody family. Unfortunately, I cannot get thru the genes site to post a message direct nor find the ones you mention. Thank again.

Can anyone tell me anything about this company. In the 1871 census I have WILLIAM FROST listed at the address of 6 Carter Lane, 10-15 Sermon Lane and 2,3, & 4 Knowles Court in the name of Messer's Cook Son & Company. There are 150 other young men listed under the same entry, all Warehouseman. Would they have lived and worked here? The parish is St Mary Magdalen and the district Castle Baynard. Regards Jenny

JFHH wrote: > Coming a little late to this thread: Never too late :)) > You may have found them, but: > Ancestry has Reginald's medal card (as MENERAN - sic in original - > correction made) also from soldieres died in the Great War: > Name:Reginald Auguste Menereau > Birth Place:Westminster > Residence:Regents Park > Death Date:9 Nov 1918 > Death Location:France & Flanders > Enlistment Location:London > Rank:Rifleman > Regiment:London Regiment > Battalion:5th (City of London) Battalion (London Rifle Brigade) > Number:318253 > Type of Casualty:Died > Theatre of War:Western European Theatre > Comments:Formerly 5671, 9Th London Regt. > ---- > on his medal card his alterate number is 8113. I have been unable to > find his service record - either burnt or lurking under a total > mis-transcription. I hadn't thought to look for his medal card :/ so thank you for that. Interesting that it says he died France & Flanders. The CWGC and WGPP sites both give his place of death as Germany which made me wonder if he was a POW. His cause of death, according to the WGPP, was dysentry MENEREAU gets well mangled so it could be under a mis-transcription but burnt is very possible. My grandfather's and great uncle's records went that way :(( > 2 days before armistice - poor lad. No wonder someone was named in his > memory. So near, yet so far. > Also, Malvina's birth, but in *Lambeth*, not Pancras > Malvina Henriete J Menerrau > Year of Registration:1886 > Quarter of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec > District:Lambeth > County:Greater London, London, Surrey > Volume:1d > Page:332 > ---- > I have corrected surname - original is clear. > That said, I see there is another Malvina: all the following are Pancras > except Cecil who is Kensington - > Cecil Douglas Menereau1896Oct-Nov-DecGreater London, London, Middlesex > Bryan Ewart Menereau1898Oct-Nov-DecLondon, Middlesex > Malvina Violet N P Menereau1900Apr-May-JunLondon, Middlesex > Lily Leontine Menereau1903Apr-May-JunGreater London, London > Marguerite Emilie Menereau1905Oct-Nov-DecGreater London, London > Alice Rachel H Menereau1908Oct-Nov-DecGreater London, London These are all the children of Henri Auguste and Hannah (whose maiden name may be TUGWELL). Reginald was the eldest. The other Malvina was probably a cousin. I'll check that one out. > Lily's Baptism is at > http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1558&iid=31280_197819-00431&fn=Lily+Leontine&ln=Menerean&st=d&ssrc=&pid=3915967 > again, I have corrected surname. > > To complete the picture here are the MENEREAU deaths: > > Henry A Menereau abt 18601912St Pancras (1902-1977)Greater London, London > Lily L Menereau abt 19031912St Pancras (1902-1977)Greater London, London > Alice R H Menereau abt 19091910St Pancras (1902-1977)Greater London, London Henri and two of his daus > Bryan Menereau 1951PancrasLondon This one is currently a stray but related I'm sure. > Bryan E Menereau 1945IslingtonGreater London > Cecil D Menereau 1939GosportHampshire Brothers > Hannah Menereau 1954SouthwarkLondon Henri's widow > Reginald D E Menereau 1920PancrasLondon Currently a stray but likely related. > Daisy Ellen Menereau18981971PortsmouthHampshire Cecil D's widow > Marjorie Ellen Menereau1923Apr 1996PortsmouthHampshire Cecil D's dau > Reginald Frederick E Menereau1928Jun 1984CroydonLondon, Surrey Bryan E's son > Marguerite Rose Menereau1945Jun 2002BarnetHertfordshire, Middlesex Bryan E's dau > Melvina V N P Menereaum 1922WandsworthGreater London Another of Henri and Hannah's daus Many thanks for this data and also for correcting the surname. It'll help others find the family. Goodness knows how many others are lurking in the indices under well mangled versions :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Dianne, Have you tried this rootsweb list aus-convicts@rootsweb.com They seem to know all about most of the NSW convicts. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <charani.b@gmail.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] Transported in 1838, What happened next? > Dianne Cheesewright wrote: >> At last a black sheep! >> From original sources I have the following: >> William CHEESEWRIGHT, born London circa 1813, waterman , was tried and convicted of larceny at the Central Criminal Court on 18 September 1837. >> A single man, aged 24,who could both read and write ,he was sentenced to 7 years and to be transported. >> He was received at the hulk "Justicia" , berthed at Woolwich, on 5 October 1837. >> From there he travelled to New South Wales on the ship "Earl Grey" surviving the journey and arriving there in New South Wales in 1838. >> Where please, do I look to find out what happened to him? > > As he was ony transported for 7 years, he would have been able to > return to the UK once his sentence was served and he had his Ticket of > Leave. He would have had to have either work his passage back or pay > for it himself so whether he did return or not would be another matter. > > You should be able to find your man on > www.parishregister.com/watermen_and_lightermen.html > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani B" <charani.b@gmail.com> > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Neil & Jan Hearn > <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> wrote: >> Dear Charani, >> Have found Hannah MENEREAU on Genes Reunited. The treeowner there has her >> birth recorded at Poynings, Sussex in 1873. They seem to be mainly descendants of Margeurite. > That date and place match with the census. Hannah's been consistent > with her place > and date of birth. Unfortunately I don't have access to Genes Reunited. > I haven't started checking Margeurite's descendents as yet. >> Couldn't find Reginald's birth at all. > > It does seem he wasn't registered. I'll see if St Pancras register > office is willing to > tell me whether they have a registration for him that didn't make it > to the GRO. I'll > also add the LMA to my visit schedule. It'll definitely be an overnight stay. > >> If the marriage to Maria didn't work out, perhaps they didn't marry at all. > I'm rather thinking they didn't make it official especially if his > marriage to Justine > didn't work out either. >> Hope this helps a little, > Yes, it does, thank you :)) Thank you also for the link to the War > Grave Photo Project site. Reginald was so close to getting out of the > War as well. Poor lad. I guess his full name was Reginald Henri/y > Auguste MENEREAU. > > -- > Charani (UK) Coming a little late to this thread: You may have found them, but: Ancestry has Reginald's medal card (as MENERAN - sic in original - correction made) also from soldieres died in the Great War: Name:Reginald Auguste Menereau Birth Place:Westminster Residence:Regents Park Death Date:9 Nov 1918 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:London Rank:Rifleman Regiment:London Regiment Battalion:5th (City of London) Battalion (London Rifle Brigade) Number:318253 Type of Casualty:Died Theatre of War:Western European Theatre Comments:Formerly 5671, 9Th London Regt. ---- on his medal card his alterate number is 8113. I have been unable to find his service record - either burnt or lurking under a total mis-transcription. 2 days before armistice - poor lad. No wonder someone was named in his memory. Also, Malvina's birth, but in *Lambeth*, not Pancras Malvina Henriete J Menerrau Year of Registration:1886 Quarter of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec District:Lambeth County:Greater London, London, Surrey Volume:1d Page:332 ---- I have corrected surname - original is clear. That said, I see there is another Malvina: all the following are Pancras except Cecil who is Kensington - View Record Cecil Douglas Menereau1896Oct-Nov-DecGreater London, London, Middlesex View Record Bryan Ewart Menereau1898Oct-Nov-DecLondon, Middlesex View Record Malvina Violet N P Menereau1900Apr-May-JunLondon, Middlesex View Record Lily Leontine Menereau1903Apr-May-JunGreater London, London View Record Marguerite Emilie Menereau1905Oct-Nov-DecGreater London, London View Record Alice Rachel H Menereau1908Oct-Nov-DecGreater London, London Lily's Baptism is at http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1558&iid=31280_197819-00431&fn=Lily+Leontine&ln=Menerean&st=d&ssrc=&pid=3915967 again, I have corrected surname. To complete the picture here are the MENEREAU deaths: View Record Henry A Menereau abt 18601912St Pancras (1902-1977)Greater London, London View Record Lily L Menereau abt 19031912St Pancras (1902-1977)Greater London, London View Record Alice R H Menereau abt 19091910St Pancras (1902-1977)Greater London, London Bryan Menereau 1951PancrasLondon View Record Bryan E Menereau 1945IslingtonGreater London View Record Cecil D Menereau 1939GosportHampshire View Record Hannah Menereau 1954SouthwarkLondon View Record Reginald D E Menereau 1920PancrasLondon View Record Daisy Ellen Menereau18981971PortsmouthHampshire View Record Marjorie Ellen Menereau1923Apr 1996PortsmouthHampshire View Record Reginald Frederick E Menereau1928Jun 1984CroydonLondon, Surrey View Record Marguerite Rose Menereau1945Jun 2002BarnetHertfordshire, Middlesex View Record Melvina V N P Menereaum 1922WandsworthGreater London ----- Regards, John Henley

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Neil & Jan Hearn <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> wrote: > Dear Charani, > Have found Hannah MENEREAU on Genes Reunited. The treeowner there has her birth recorded at Poynings, Sussex in 1873. They seem to be mainly descendants of Margeurite. That date and place match with the census. Hannah's been consistent with her place and date of birth. Unfortunately I don't have access to Genes Reunited. I haven't started checking Margeurite's descendents as yet. > Couldn't find Reginald's birth at all. It does seem he wasn't registered. I'll see if St Pancras register office is willing to tell me whether they have a registration for him that didn't make it to the GRO. I'll also add the LMA to my visit schedule. It'll definitely be an overnight stay. > If the marriage to Maria didn't work out, perhaps they didn't marry at all. I'm rather thinking they didn't make it official especially if his marriage to Justine didn't work out either. > Hope this helps a little, Yes, it does, thank you :)) Thank you also for the link to the War Grave Photo Project site. Reginald was so close to getting out of the War as well. Poor lad. I guess his full name was Reginald Henri/y Auguste MENEREAU. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Anne Chambers wrote: > 1901 census > Class: RG13; Piece: 131; Folio: 24; Page: 40 > 129 Stanhope Street St Pancras > Henri Menereau 41 Kitchen Clerk b France (French subject) > Hannah Menereau 28 b Sussex Paynings > Reginald Menereau 6 > Cecil Menereau 4 > Bryan Menereau 2 > Malvena Menereau 1 > children all born London Pancras Many thanks :)) I could only get that to come up by using the reference because Henri Menereau had become Henry Menerean in the index! Now corrected :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hi Dianne In the NSW BDM there is a William Cheesewright who died in Orange in 1866 aged 45 years. His age at death is incorrect. However, it would appear that the person who entered his details was not familiar with his biographical details as the names of his parents were missing from the index entry. There is no record of a marriage. Cheers Maxwell.

J K gen wrote: > Courtesy of Ancestry.com > Paris, France & Vicinity Marriage Banns, 1860-1902 (in French) > > date 30 Oct 1881 > name Justine Leontine Duclos > daughter of Emas Louis and Louise Hugé > Address R de la Harper? 21 > > Unfortunately Henri Auguste's parentage is not given in these banns. > > No other marriage for him on this list. Eeeeekkkkk!!! What I thought was his first marriage was actually his second! Unless this one didn't actually take place. One of his dau's by Hannah Whoever (wife #3) was Lily Leontine who died a bit before her father in 1912. > There is a marriage in > Paris, France & Vicinity Marriages, 1700-1907 (in French) > > It comes in two parts which I have put together: > > 8 Apr 1856: Sainte-Madeleine > > Jacques Auguste MENEREAU > address: neuve St Augustin 50 > son of Jacques and Marié Aime Rigolet > spouse MOUSSIN > > Louise Henriett MOUSSIN - Veuve de Etme Rocheron > address: v neuve St Augustin 50 > dau of Denis and Adelaide Guillaume > spouse MENEREAU They look good to be Henri Auguste's parents. > As well as Roman Catholic there are also French Protestant churches. > Most of the latter churches have been indexed and/or transcribed by > the Hugenot Society, who have published many records, and some of > these have been filmed and are available via the LDS Family History > Centers. Search their library for the film numbers - Googling also > gets you to the London fhc catalogue which might provide added clues. I'll have to have a look at paying the London FHC a visit when I'm next up there. I don't have one that's easily accessible from where I live. > There is a French Protestant Church, Soho Square whose very recent > records are held by Westminster Archives I believe. TNA "Your > Archives" section has an article about Soho Square which contains > reference to the Church. Further googling may help. I'll add Westminster Archives to the visit as well. > You mention the BMD registers - are these the ones on S&N The > Genealogist? If so they are usually pre 1837 and indexed by the LDS on > the IGI. They're on a separate site, but, yes, they are The Genealogist ones. > FreeBMD has deaths in Sep qtr of 1912 both at Pancras RD > Henry A Menereau aged 52 and > Lily L Menereau aged 9. That's Henri and his dau. Another dau, Malvina, died in 1922. Henri's eldest son on 9 Nov 1918 in Germany and his second one in 1939. Hannah must have wondered what she'd done to deserve to lose so many of her family. She'd already lost Alice in 1910. Bryan, the 4th son died young as well. > There's als a birth in Mar qtr 1920 for Reginald D E MENEREAU mother > RIDING also Pancras RD, and another in Mar qtr 1923 for Marjorie E > Menereau mother Riding this one in Portsmouth RD, followed by Jun qtr > 1928 Patricia L Menereau mother Riding also Portsmouth RD - this last > married Colingridge in Sep qtr 1947 in Portsmouth RD It's Patricia's family I've been following back but I hadn't searched for any siblings yet though. The COLLINGRIDGE she married was my cousin Ramon whose mother was a naughty girl which has resulted in Ramon having three birth certificates <VBG> However, Patricia's mother is also causing a furrowed brow. She's Mary E RIDING but I think she was married before. I haven't been able to find a MENEREAU/RIDING marriage so far. > There's another Reginald birth > Dec qtr 1928 Reginald F E Menereau mother Brooks at Pancras RD Hmmm. There's a Mary RIDING who married a Frederick BROOKS. It's started raining here. I guess that means they're all on their fluffy clouds crying with laughter!! <G> > I'll leave you to look for all the others! Thank you :)) I've been having a bit more of a ferret as you'll have realised. > HTH Yes, it does. Thank you very much for digging them out and in particular the French entries. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

More info re Reginald http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=1006305 Jan

Dear Charani, Have found Hannah MENEREAU on Genes Reunited. The treeowner there has her birth recorded at Poynings, Sussex in 1873. They seem to be mainly descendants of Margeurite. Couldn't find Reginald's birth at all. If the marriage to Maria didn't work out, perhaps they didn't marry at all. Hope this helps a little, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <charani.b@gmail.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:29 PM Subject: [MDX] Henri Auguste MENEREAU (c1860-1912) and family > Background > > Henri Auguste MENEREAU was born in France (not too surprisingly! :)) ) > about 1860. I have no idea eactly where so his parentage will remain > unknown. I'm not sure when he arrived in England but he was certainly > here by 1886 when he married either Maria Victoria TANQUERAY or Mary > Ann WRIGHT. My feeling is he married Maria Victoria. > > I've found Henri in the 1891 census but no sign of his wife. He's an > hotel keeper's clerk boarding at 113, Euston Street, St Pancras and > says he's married. > > I cannot find him in the 1901 census but he may have been visiting > family in France. > > He appears in the 1911 census with 6 of his 7 children (one having > died) but with a wife called Hannah and claiming to have been married > 18 years making a marriage date of about 1893. I know which child he > lost: Alice Rachel H age 1. > > I've not been able to find this marriage. The eldest son, Reginald > (bc 1895), has either not been registered or has been missed off the > GRO index. He would appear to be Hannah's son and there don't appear > to have been any children from Henri's 1886 marriage. > > I've had a ferret on Ancestry's London Parishes at the library without > success but it's possible the birth was registered in the City of > Westminster as Henri's second son was registered in Kensington. The > third and subsequent children were all registered in St Pancras but > their baptisms are there either. It's quite likely they were Roman > Catholic but there's nothing coming up on the non conformist BMD > Registers. > > This is a new discovery so I haven't had a chance to get any > certificates as yet. > > Questions: > > Can anyone identify Henri's first wife and what happened to her? > Can anyone find his apparent second marriage to Hannah and who she was? > Can anyone locate Reginald's birth? > > At the moment, I'm stumped, so any help would be much appreciated. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

1901 census Class: RG13; Piece: 131; Folio: 24; Page: 40 129 Stanhope Street St Pancras Henri Menereau 41 Kitchen Clerk b France (French subject) Hannah Menereau 28 b Sussex Paynings Reginald Menereau 6 Cecil Menereau 4 Bryan Menereau 2 Malvena Menereau 1 children all born London Pancras Anne South Australia > From: "Charani"<charani.b@gmail.com> > To:<middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:29 PM > Subject: [MDX] Henri Auguste MENEREAU (c1860-1912) and family >> >> I cannot find him in the 1901 census but he may have been visiting >> family in France.

From: Charani Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:56 AM To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] Access by SKS to LMA-London Metropolian Archives There can be a difference between the name a child is registered with and the one they are baptised with. My most spectacular one was a child registered as Caroline but who was baptised Rachel and known as the latter for the rest of her life. Hi Charani, Yep the same thing happened with my wife's great grandmother, birth registered as Harriett, baptised as Charlotte and known as Charlotte for the rest of her life. Jon

Hi Dianne, there's a William Cheesewright mentioned 1842,1848 and 1859 in the newspapers on the NLA site, SMH I think - I did find him just searching for Cheesewright, Jan > From: jangmc@bigpond.com > To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:05:04 +0930 > Subject: Re: [MDX] Transported in 1838, What happened next? > > Hi Dianne, > > http://gazette.slv.vic.gov.au/images/1842/N/general/39.pdf lists him as > having received his ticket of leave in 1842. He was living in Parramatta...I > just googled his name and got this link. > > A great website is http://www.claimaconvict.net/ . He does not appear on > the list of "claimed" convicts, which presumably means that no-one else has > researched him, but you can add him to the list. It is a very informative > site about the convict system and how to research convicts. The associated > Rootsweb mailing list is also very helpful and knowledgeable. > > Jan > South Australia > > >From there he travelled to New South Wales on the ship "Earl Grey" > surviving the journey and arriving there in New South Wales in 1838. > Where please, do I look to find out what happened to him? > Any help gratefully accepted! > Dianne. > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don wrote: > I am looking for a baptism of Rebecca Watts d/o of Richard and Sarah Watts > Her bd believed to be Sept 1847 > Information needed > baptism date > birth date > middle name > confirmation that this entry is indeed for Rebecca Watts daughter of Richard > and Sarah. Richards occupation was a mason Rebecca Sarah dau of Richard and Sarah WATTS, Mason. I've had a fiddle around with the image and the rest of the entry reads: Bapt Jany 9 1848. Born 18 Sept 1847 This corresponds with the entry below from FreeBMD: Births Sep 1847 Watts Rebecca Westminster 1 388 There can be a difference between the name a child is registered with and the one they are baptised with. My most spectacular one was a child registered as Caroline but who was baptised Rachel and known as the latter for the rest of her life. I have reported it to Ancestry as an Illegible Image (bit of an understatement there methinks! <G>) HTH -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Dianne Cheesewright wrote: > At last a black sheep! > From original sources I have the following: > William CHEESEWRIGHT, born London circa 1813, waterman , was tried and convicted of larceny at the Central Criminal Court on 18 September 1837. > A single man, aged 24,who could both read and write ,he was sentenced to 7 years and to be transported. > He was received at the hulk "Justicia" , berthed at Woolwich, on 5 October 1837. > From there he travelled to New South Wales on the ship "Earl Grey" surviving the journey and arriving there in New South Wales in 1838. > Where please, do I look to find out what happened to him? As he was ony transported for 7 years, he would have been able to return to the UK once his sentence was served and he had his Ticket of Leave. He would have had to have either work his passage back or pay for it himself so whether he did return or not would be another matter. You should be able to find your man on www.parishregister.com/watermen_and_lightermen.html -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Good morning all, and hello from Aust. I have been searching for several years the birth date and place of Thomas WHITE, who according to all the censuses from 1881 to 1911, was born c1850-52, in St. Lukes or Westminster, London. On Thomas's marriage cert of 1873 (in Leigh, Lancs) his father was Edward WHITE, dec'd, a journeyman blacksmith, but the mother's name is still unknown. Thomas's occ. was usually described as an Engine driver/blacksmith/hammerman. In 1911 when he lived in Willesden, he was working in a Motor Works....another question for another time! So, using Ancestry, I have trawled through all the London and Mdx births and baptisms, but not found even one for a Thomas with a father Edward! As I have no clue when Edward died I cannot be sure that Thomas got his father's christian name right. Can anyone give me any idea how to search for my Thomas, with father Edward, on any site, please? Cheers, Robyn of Oz.