There's this Sarah Horn 9 Jan 1835 Hampstead St John Camden (aged 4 months) The address given is just 'Hampstead' which isn't that far from Regent's Park This is the link for Ancestry http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1559&enc=1 Anne South Australia Anne Chapman wrote: > Hi Listers, > I wonder if one of you wonderful people could point me in the right > direction to finding the actual record of this death/burial. These > details have been sent to me by my cousin, to see if I could find them. > Swithin Horne& his wife Eliza Matthews lived at 9 Munster Street, > Regents Park, at the time their daughter, Sarah was born. On the > Greenwood's map of 1827, there is a St James Burial Ground to the right > on my printed map -- maybe this should be East of Munster Street (now no > longer there) > Firstly, can someone confirm if this St James Burial Ground would > be classed as Westminster at the time? If not. can someone tell me > where that St James, Westminister, would be? > Secondly, I have looked at Ancestry England Deaths& Burials and > cannot now find how we used to go to the records of the actual churches, > H E L P > Thirdly, Is this one of the churches, that is not handled by Ancestry? > In 1842 Swithin purchased a Grave plot at Kensal Green Cemetery > which has Swithin, Eliza, three of their sons plus Eliza's mother, Sarah > Matthews, (widowed wife of James Matthews). These 6 were buried between > 1842 and 1886. There is a headstone in the form of a rectangular box > which has been found, with huge rejoicing. > Sorry for this being long, but wanted to give you all relevant > details. We are just hoping this is her, and we have finally found the > last of the children. > Thanking you very much for any help you can give > me. Anne > > Name: Sarah Horne, > Gender: Female, > Burial Date: 15 Feb 1835 > Burial Place: Westminster, Middlesex, England, > Death Date: 1835, > Death Place: , > Age: 0, > Birth Date: 1835, > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B02329-6, > System Origin: England-EASy, > Source Film Number: 1866535, > Reference Number: Vol 7 p557, > Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991,, > > Name: Sarah Horne, > Burial Date: 15 Feb 1835, > Burial Place: Saint James, Westminster, Middlesex, > Age: 0, > Birth Date: 1835, > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B02124-1, > System Origin: England-EASy, > Source Film Number: 1042316, > Reference Number: v 27 p 351, > Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991,,, > > Below is my Great Grandfather's sister, whom we have not been able to > find any further record of. Never with the family in any of the Census > records. We have traced all records of the balance of the 13 children > of Swithin Horne and his wife Eliza Matthews. > > Name: Sarah Horne, > Gender: Female, > Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Feb 1835 > Baptism/Christening Place: OLD CHURCH,SAINT PANCRAS,LONDON,ENGLAND, > Birth Date: 26 Jan 1835,: > Father's Name: Swithin Horne, > Mother's Name: Eliza > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Anne, The St James burial ground on Hampstead Road belonged the parish of St James Westminster. It was not located within Westminster itself, but in St Pancras. It is sometimes referred to as St James Camden Town. FamilySearch doesn't identify the burial ground as such, but there's a good chance that a burial in 1835 listed as St James Westminster would be at this Hampstead Road ground, rather than in Westminster itself. This burial register is not on Ancestry. There are bishops' transcripts for St James Westminster (aka St James Piccadilly) 1813-1833, but unfortunately not for 1835, the year you need. To get a copy of the entry in the burial register you will need to send GBP 4.00 to Westminster City Archives and provide the name, exact date and the parish. If you email them first, they will explain how you can do this by credit card. You should appreciate, though, that the only additional information in the register is likely to be the "abode". It may be the street, or it may be just the name of the parish (St Pancras, St Marylebone, or whatever). http://www.westminster.gov.uk/services/libraries/archives/family-history / HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Chapman Hi Listers, I wonder if one of you wonderful people could point me in the right direction to finding the actual record of this death/burial. These details have been sent to me by my cousin, to see if I could find them. Swithin Horne & his wife Eliza Matthews lived at 9 Munster Street, Regents Park, at the time their daughter, Sarah was born. On the Greenwood's map of 1827, there is a St James Burial Ground to the right on my printed map -- maybe this should be East of Munster Street (now no longer there) Firstly, can someone confirm if this St James Burial Ground would be classed as Westminster at the time? If not. can someone tell me where that St James, Westminister, would be? Secondly, I have looked at Ancestry England Deaths & Burials and cannot now find how we used to go to the records of the actual churches, H E L P Thirdly, Is this one of the churches, that is not handled by Ancestry? In 1842 Swithin purchased a Grave plot at Kensal Green Cemetery which has Swithin, Eliza, three of their sons plus Eliza's mother, Sarah Matthews, (widowed wife of James Matthews). These 6 were buried between 1842 and 1886. There is a headstone in the form of a rectangular box which has been found, with huge rejoicing. Sorry for this being long, but wanted to give you all relevant details. We are just hoping this is her, and we have finally found the last of the children. Thanking you very much for any help you can give me. Anne Name: Sarah Horne, Gender: Female, Burial Date: 15 Feb 1835 Burial Place: Westminster, Middlesex, England, Death Date: 1835, Death Place: , Age: 0, Birth Date: 1835, Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B02329-6, System Origin: England-EASy, Source Film Number: 1866535, Reference Number: Vol 7 p557, Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991,, Name: Sarah Horne, Burial Date: 15 Feb 1835, Burial Place: Saint James, Westminster, Middlesex, Age: 0, Birth Date: 1835, Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B02124-1, System Origin: England-EASy, Source Film Number: 1042316, Reference Number: v 27 p 351, Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991,,, Below is my Great Grandfather's sister, whom we have not been able to find any further record of. Never with the family in any of the Census records. We have traced all records of the balance of the 13 children of Swithin Horne and his wife Eliza Matthews. Name: Sarah Horne, Gender: Female, Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Feb 1835 Baptism/Christening Place: OLD CHURCH,SAINT PANCRAS,LONDON,ENGLAND, Birth Date: 26 Jan 1835,: Father's Name: Swithin Horne, Mother's Name: Eliza **************************************

Message for Caroline Bradford.  I took your advice, Caroline, and sent for the Birth Certificate of Eliza Lees who was born in 1840.  Her Mother is listed as Ann Warren.  Not sure if I have the correct George but the dates tie in and he is listed as a gardener.  I feel I have the right people.   Would appreciate any images you think are appropriate.  So thanks .  Best wishes,  Valma 

Thanks to Ruth, Caroline and Judy with advice about the location of the BROGGREF family in the 1841 Census. I am heading to London over Xmas and hope to visit some of these locations, albeit recognising that the streetscapes are sure to have changed! Best wishes, and thanks again. Regards Libby ------------------------------ Elizabeth K McMillan - ekmcm@me.com

From Berrow's Worcester Journal Saturday 17th February 1855 On Sunday night a house in the Lower Road, Islington, fell with a crash that resounded through the neighbourhood. At first, the staircase and central portion of the house fell down. The conductor of the fire-escape, stationed on Islington Green, proceeded to the spot where he found a man, his wife and two children at the second floor front window. He ascended, and brought down in safety the four persons whose lives were so much jeopardised. As other portions of the house continued falling, the machine was obliged to be removed and immediately afterwards the whole front of the building fell to the ground, burying in the ruins a number of people. The following is the correct list of the killed:- Thomas HODGES, aged 14 years; *George HODGES, aged 8 years; Joseph GLOVER, aged 26 years; Jane GLOVER, aged 23 years, the wife of the former; Joseph GLOVER, aged 4 years, a son of the before-named; *Sarah LANE, aged 40 years; and Francis STOKER, a police-constable of the N-division, No. 262, aged 38, who has left a widow and one child to deplore his untimely death. The circumstances attending this officer's death are of a very deplorable nature. The brave fellow, having heard the cries of a woman in the house, rushed through one of the doors, reached the place the woman was in, took her in his arms, and was in the act of carrying her downstairs, when a portion of the side wall fell, and both were forced down and instantly covered with the rubbish. When extricated, both were found to be quite dead. The building in question was a very old one, consisting of a double house, one half of which was over a shop; the other half was over a gateway forming an entrance to some stables at the back" *The people who died were actually Samuel LANE aged 46 and James HODGES aged 8. The story & subsequent coroner's inquest was covered in great detail by The Times and many other papers. In the house at the time of the collapse were (amongst others) married sisters Jane GLOVER nee JAUNCEY & Eliza Ann HODGES nee JAUNCEY and their families. Benjamin JAUNCEY, brother of the 2 women, lived around the corner and was injured trying to rescue his sisters and their families. Eliza Ann & Charles HODGES and 2 of their children survived the collapse. Jane & Joseph GLOVER, Joseph GLOVER jnr and Thomas & James HODGES all perished. Paula

sharon macvicar wrote: > Could someone tell me when and where the Lucitania was when it was torpedoed. > Was it during one of the World Wars? Yes it was - WWI. Google brings a lot up about the Lusitania (note spelling), including pictures and videos. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWlusitania.htm www.historylearningsite.co.uk › World War One www.firstworldwar.com/features/lusitania.htm www.lusitania.net/ www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/snpwwi2.htm www.pbs.org/lostliners/lusitania.html Those are just a few of over 1 million hits. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

It was in WW1 on 1 May 1915. I recommend you google for it as it is a very significant sinking which affected public opinion in the USA and there is wealth of info. Michael Allbrook _____ From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sharon macvicar Sent: 24 October 2010 08:41 To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDX] RE- The Lucitania Hello fellow listers. Could someone tell me when and where the Lucitania was when it was torpedoed. Was it during one of the World Wars? I have a relative that was on it at that time. Sharon ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder if someone might assist me with reading the address for the BROGREFF family in the 1841 census. Middlesex - St Marylebone - St John - District 16. Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 678; Book: 12; Civil Parish: St Marylebone; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 14; Page: 21; Line: 24; GSU roll: 438794. Regards, Libby ------------------------------ Elizabeth K McMillan - ekmcm@me.com

Quite so Ingrid Or a "Tanner" (or a fortnights pocket money when I was seven <g>) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > It was a sixpence or sixpenny bit wasn't it? (half of a shilling) > > Ingrid Billings

It was a sixpence or sixpenny bit wasn't it? (half of a shilling) Ingrid Billings -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jason Austin Sent: 24 October 2010 17:15 To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] Henry MISKINS ( 1817 ) I've not heard of a 1/6 coin before? Did it have a name? In New Zealand we used to have a 2/6 coin, the half crown - much later than 1817 of course!! Jason MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com wrote: >>From The Ipswich Journal ( Ipswich, England ), Saturday, April 26, 1817; >Issue 4180. > >Monday at the Middlesex Sessions, Henry MISKINS was indicted for having >unlawfully procured 1500 false and counterfeit pieces, of the likeness of a >sixpence, and having uttered and put in circulation the same. The evidence >to prove the fact charged in the indictment, was to this effect: The >prisoner came to town on the roof of the Union Birmingham coach, accoutered in a >rough great coat; his conduct excited suspicion, particularly when the coach >was going up a hill, by holding at the back of the carriage, and appearing >as if he had something bulky under his coat. When the coach arrived at the >Old Hats, at Ealing, two Police-officers were in waiting for another >person, when he pulled off his great coat, threw it on the roof and ran to the >privy. This excited suspicion, and they secured the prisoner, and on >searching the premises they found 3 parcels, containing 89 dozen of counterfeit >1s. 6d pieces, and 1500 6d pieces, the subject of the present indictment. The >Jury found him Guilty, and the Court sentenced him to be imprisoned for 2 >years. > >************************************** >Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > >List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a reminder to all that if you have specific photos of houses, halls, churches, other worthwhile buildings connected to your family history or otherwise you can upload these to <http://www.geograph.org.uk/>http://www.geograph.org.uk/ where there is a massive collection of buildings throughout the UK. You will be named as the photographer and you may include your email address and web address so that others who have an interest in a particular building may contact you. For instance, mine by proxy, is Weston House, Gresford and hopefully I may add more as time goes by. For a look, simply go to the website and enter the details. It is a marvellous source of UK buildings and indeed a perpetual one. You could build up quite a collection on this site if such is your aim and these details will stay long after you depart this earth. It is a worthwhile venture to undertake and you may give freedom for other people to use your photograph. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Thank you for the site for the maps on domesday books..I was able to locate towns/areas of London that my ancestors lived by jus tputting in a location of london bridge and taking arrow around to different areas. My ancestors were living in Bethnal Green, Brentford, Harlington, W. Drayton and others and was able t o see where in relationship to Heathrow airport almost making me feel as if I rented a car I could get to the areas very easily. I even found St James area where a great uncle was stationed as a police officer.Thank you.

It should have read 1 shilling & 6 pence pieces (2 different coins) In a message dated 24/10/2010 17:15:30 GMT Daylight Time, jason.austin@shaw.ca writes: I've not heard of a 1/6 coin before? Did it have a name? In New Zealand we used to have a 2/6 coin, the half crown - much later than 1817 of course!! Jason MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com wrote: >>From The Ipswich Journal ( Ipswich, England ), Saturday, April 26, 1817; >Issue 4180. > >Monday at the Middlesex Sessions, Henry MISKINS was indicted for having >unlawfully procured 1500 false and counterfeit pieces, of the likeness of a >sixpence, and having uttered and put in circulation the same. The evidence >to prove the fact charged in the indictment, was to this effect: The >prisoner came to town on the roof of the Union Birmingham coach, accoutered in a >rough great coat; his conduct excited suspicion, particularly when the coach >was going up a hill, by holding at the back of the carriage, and appearing >as if he had something bulky under his coat. When the coach arrived at the >Old Hats, at Ealing, two Police-officers were in waiting for another >person, when he pulled off his great coat, threw it on the roof and ran to the >privy. This excited suspicion, and they secured the prisoner, and on >searching the premises they found 3 parcels, containing 89 dozen of counterfeit >1s. 6d pieces, and 1500 6d pieces, the subject of the present indictment. The >Jury found him Guilty, and the Court sentenced him to be imprisoned for 2 >years. > >************************************** >Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > >List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It could have been part of the former Eton College lands. There's a note here ... http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=45237 If north-west of Primrose Hill, it might just have come under Marylebone? HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Bradford It looks on the page like "Blue House Field", and even more like that on the description of the enumeration district. This is also how it is rendered in the Street Index to the 1841 census (available via the Your Archives section of the National Archives website). I cannot find any reference to "Blue House Field" anywhere else, and it is not featured on any of the maps around that time, but the part of St John's Wood concerned (South of St John's Wood Terrace) was in the process of construction in the 1840s, so I imagine this was a pretty rural address and was built over soon after the census. HTH Caroline > I wonder if someone might assist me with reading the address for the > BROGREFF family in the 1841 census. > > Middlesex - St Marylebone - St John - District 16. > > Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 678; Book: 12; Civil Parish: St > Marylebone; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 14; > Page: 21; Line: 24; GSU roll: 438794. > > Regards, > Libby > ------------------------------ ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From The Ipswich Journal ( Ipswich, England ), Saturday, April 26, 1817; Issue 4180. Monday at the Middlesex Sessions, Henry MISKINS was indicted for having unlawfully procured 1500 false and counterfeit pieces, of the likeness of a sixpence, and having uttered and put in circulation the same. The evidence to prove the fact charged in the indictment, was to this effect: The prisoner came to town on the roof of the Union Birmingham coach, accoutered in a rough great coat; his conduct excited suspicion, particularly when the coach was going up a hill, by holding at the back of the carriage, and appearing as if he had something bulky under his coat. When the coach arrived at the Old Hats, at Ealing, two Police-officers were in waiting for another person, when he pulled off his great coat, threw it on the roof and ran to the privy. This excited suspicion, and they secured the prisoner, and on searching the premises they found 3 parcels, containing 89 dozen of counterfeit 1s. 6d pieces, and 1500 6d pieces, the subject of the present indictment. The Jury found him Guilty, and the Court sentenced him to be imprisoned for 2 years.

Hi Libby It looks on the page like "Blue House Field", and even more like that on the description of the enumeration district. This is also how it is rendered in the Street Index to the 1841 census (available via the Your Archives section of the National Archives website). I cannot find any reference to "Blue House Field" anywhere else, and it is not featured on any of the maps around that time, but the part of St John's Wood concerned (South of St John's Wood Terrace) was in the process of construction in the 1840s, so I imagine this was a pretty rural address and was built over soon after the census. HTH Caroline > I wonder if someone might assist me with reading the address for the > BROGREFF family in the 1841 census. > > Middlesex - St Marylebone - St John - District 16. > > Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 678; Book: 12; Civil Parish: St > Marylebone; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 14; > Page: 21; Line: 24; GSU roll: 438794. > > Regards, > Libby > ------------------------------

Hello, I'm returning to a long-standing brick wall in the hope that someone can helm me break it down. My wife's grandmother was born Lois WOOD on the 18 jan 1875 at 97 Park Street, Southwark. I have her birth certificate and she is recorded as the daughter of John and Ellen WOOD. He was a carpenter and her maiden name is given as SMITH. I have not been able to find a marriage for John and Ellen. However, I do have the 1881 census for 70 Park Street, Southwark, where Henry and Ann SMITH are living with a 6 year old visitor Louise WOOD (born in Southwark). Henry is an engine fitter born in Goshill Lincoln in 1839 and Ann was born in Lincoln in 1833. In the 1891 Census Henry is living in Sumner Street, Southark but his wife's name is shown as Amy. They have a daughter, Alice, aged 19 and born in poplar. Louise WOOD is still living with them and she is listed as "relative" Is anyone able to shed more light on Henry and Ann (or Amy) SMITH and particularly whether they had a daughter, Ellen. Any help would be very much appreciated. Best Regards Peter Rimell

How about Births Dec 1846 Pearse Maria Clerkenwell 3 84 She may have been registered very late. Anne South Australia Lawrence Pearse wrote: > > Hello List > > I am having great trouble trying to track down a birth record in 1846 for someone whose baptism I have and > for whom I have census records in 1851 and 1861. The search is made more complicated - and thus I hope an > interesting challenge for those of you intrigued by puzzles! - by not knowing under what surname she may > have been recorded, nor in which district, though St Giles and Strand are the most likely. > > Her forename is Maria - or at least that is how it was recorded in the census and baptism records.

Charani/Ann - thanks for your thoughts. My original email was already long enough so I had omitted some information. Let me add some of it here in response to your thoughts. The actual birth dates of the other 4 siblings is the same as or close to the date given on the baptismal records, so I would expect that Maria was born on or close to 10 Feb 1846. Her elder sister Ann Maria was actually born in St Giles in 1843 rather than St Clement Danes as recorded on the censuses, hence I wanted to keep that possibility open for Maria in 1846. By 1847 at least the family had settled in St Clements. I have also kept my mind open to Maria being recorded at birth as Mary, Mary Ann and Marianne, to name but 3 - the 2 censuses have her as merely Maria. The BCs of Mary Ann Pearce (Mar 1846 St Giles), Mary Ann Pearce, Jun q 1846, St Geo Han Sq, 1, 36, Maria Eliza Callander, Jun q 1846, St Giles, 1, 83 and Maria Pearse Dec 1846 Clerkenwell are NOT my Maria (other detail on the BCs shows that). There is a family legend that says that the elder sister Ann Maria was actually the daughter of a Duke and the Duchess wife of a different Duke and that the surrogate father and mother were paid an allowance to bring her up. I wondered if John Joseph Pearse and his wife adopted the name Calender/Chalner (from Challoner?) as a result. Though it is striking that the 3rd born child was registered as Pearse in 1847 with no sign of a name such as Chalner (until her baptism in 1853). The only child to carry on using the Chalner name in later life was the 1st born Ann Maria, who used it on her marriage certificate. Hence my wish to find out what the names on Maria's BC were. John Joseph himself is described only as Pearse at his inquest in 1856, as is his wife Ann. Ann records herself and her child only as Pearse on the DC of her daughter in 1859, but uses the name Chalner Pearse on the MC of Ann Maria in 1864. I have asked the Westminster Registry Office if I might view the actual registers for Strand and have been turned down. I work to the principle of Peter Calvert (of that very useful site Lost Cousins), that a person is not missing from birth or census records (unless they were destroyed in a fire), but that we simply cannot find them there (erroneous record, poor transcription etc). Any other suggestions of where to look or of any other search strategy would be most welcome. Regards and thanks Lawrence

I've not heard of a 1/6 coin before? Did it have a name? In New Zealand we used to have a 2/6 coin, the half crown - much later than 1817 of course!! Jason MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com wrote: >>From The Ipswich Journal ( Ipswich, England ), Saturday, April 26, 1817; >Issue 4180. > >Monday at the Middlesex Sessions, Henry MISKINS was indicted for having >unlawfully procured 1500 false and counterfeit pieces, of the likeness of a >sixpence, and having uttered and put in circulation the same. The evidence >to prove the fact charged in the indictment, was to this effect: The >prisoner came to town on the roof of the Union Birmingham coach, accoutered in a >rough great coat; his conduct excited suspicion, particularly when the coach >was going up a hill, by holding at the back of the carriage, and appearing >as if he had something bulky under his coat. When the coach arrived at the >Old Hats, at Ealing, two Police-officers were in waiting for another >person, when he pulled off his great coat, threw it on the roof and ran to the >privy. This excited suspicion, and they secured the prisoner, and on >searching the premises they found 3 parcels, containing 89 dozen of counterfeit >1s. 6d pieces, and 1500 6d pieces, the subject of the present indictment. The >Jury found him Guilty, and the Court sentenced him to be imprisoned for 2 >years. > >************************************** >Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > >List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >