Totally fascinating, well worth reading. I signed the petition mainly because I feel some of the people buried there must have endured a life we can barely imagine. Barbara. On 31 Oct 2010, at 12:22 PM, Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> wrote: I've just stumbled across this rather intriging site: www.crossbones.org.uk

I've just stumbled across this rather intriging site: www.crossbones.org.uk/ Despite being a Londoner, but maybe because I'm from norf o'the River, I'd never heard of this place before. It's a shame it's been desecrated though. Is it possible to desecrate unhallowed ground? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hi Listers, Recently, I sent an enquiry to you wonderful listers, and have now received confirmation that it is our Sarah whom we have been searching for years for. She was the last of 13 children to be found what happened to. The records did not only show the name, but the _Street_ where they lived, _Munster Street, Pancras_, and her age in days, _18 days_. I am over the moon, and just wanted to let you all know that you can be lucky. Anne

Many thanks to Graeme, but don't think they are in the right district. Caroline, sorry about the century mistake, 1750 is a much better era. That is the family and you found three extra children that I didn't know about - fantastic. Yes she did marry William STRONG 19 Oct 1771. I had only just found what I thought was her parents, now need to find William's, which is a complete blank wall. He would be a little older than her born about 1745. Many thanks to you both for your help, much appreciated Pam.......NZ Hi Pam I think you have got a little muddled with your centuries here! A Judith EWINS, daughter of James and Mary, was baptised at St Mary, Rotherhithe, on 18 March 1753 aged 13 days. A couple with the same names Baptised a James in 1751, Ann in 1755 and Edward in 1756, also at St Mary, Rotherhithe. A Judith EWINS married William STRONG at St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey in 1771. Hope this helps Caroline

Jan The person I'm hoping for any death notices is... JINNEY/ JINNY GERTRUDE BIRD nee HAYES She died 11 Sept 1955 London Hospital, Stepney, her spouse PERCY CLIVE BIRD he died October 9 1944 South end on Sea I do know they had a few children but only one has been mentioned MURIEL IDA BIRD she had married Donald Thomas HARVEY and he has since died in Norfolk 2001. I am yet to get his death certificate and possible will so that I can try and find some one!! This is getting so frustrating. My family of Jones has not been an easy one I can assure you and it nearly to the point of chucking it in I don't want to as I would really like to find any rellies as I am the only one left out of my dads side of the Jones and he was the only one to come to OZ Thank you for any help Elaine in Melbourne OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "jan royal" <janroyal2000@hotmail.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] need help with obit please > > > > > > > > tell us the name- and we'll have a look! > > > > > >> From: jeffersoneb@patash.com.au >> To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com >> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 21:51:10 +1100 >> Subject: [MDX] need help with obit please >> >> I am hoping some one who hs more knowledge than I acessing London >> newspapers for 1955 >> Ithe message > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am hoping some one who hs more knowledge than I acessing London newspapers for 1955 I am after a particular Obit or death notice for one of my family members who died 1955 in London Hospital Surrey.I have the date. I have tried uaing London Times, but to me its ll to much hard!! even to get a date imprinted If any can hlep would be great Thanks Elaine in Oz

tell us the name- and we'll have a look! > From: jeffersoneb@patash.com.au > To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 21:51:10 +1100 > Subject: [MDX] need help with obit please > > I am hoping some one who hs more knowledge than I acessing London newspapers for 1955 > Ithe message

re. Alfred GROVES & Elsa HAAS. Derek GROVES. Pls contact me directly. MEJ in Cal

Or probably not, as patient records are subject to 100 year closure. What is it you are seeking from an obituary, Elaine? Perhaps if you gave us a bit more information (though being careful not to name individuals who may still be alive), we can point you in a more fruitful direction. Best wishes Caroline > > Elaine > > It may be worth trying the hospital archives (see > http://tinyurl.com/yzk8lpb > > > Elaine Jefferson wrote: > > I am hoping some one who hs more knowledge than I acessing London > > newspapers for 1955 I am after a particular Obit or death notice > > for one of my family members who died 1955 in London Hospital > > Surrey.I have the date. I have tried uaing London Times, but to me > > its ll to much hard!! even to get a date imprinted >

Another very useful site for Hospital Records is the National Archives Hospitals Records Database: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/ Ann > It may be worth trying the hospital archives (see > http://tinyurl.com/yzk8lpb > ). This link will give you information on all records held for many of the > London Hospitals. > > Good luck! > Carolyn

Elaine It may be worth trying the hospital archives (see http://tinyurl.com/yzk8lpb ). This link will give you information on all records held for many of the London Hospitals. Good luck! Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charani Sent: 28 October 2010 13:32 To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] need help with obit please Elaine Jefferson wrote: > I am hoping some one who hs more knowledge than I acessing London > newspapers for 1955 I am after a particular Obit or death notice > for one of my family members who died 1955 in London Hospital > Surrey.I have the date. I have tried uaing London Times, but to me > its ll to much hard!! even to get a date imprinted

Elaine Jefferson wrote: > I am hoping some one who hs more knowledge than I acessing London > newspapers for 1955 I am after a particular Obit or death notice > for one of my family members who died 1955 in London Hospital > Surrey.I have the date. I have tried uaing London Times, but to me > its ll to much hard!! even to get a date imprinted The Times is unlikely to carry an obit or death notice unless the deceased was a prominant person or the family paid for one. If there is one at all, it's more likely to be in a local paper, not all of which are available online. Again, there wouldn't be one unless the deceased was a local worthy or the family paid for one. Obits and death notices aren't the norm in the UK. Please remember that although the person of interest died in 1955, there are likely to be living relatives who may not welcome having their family member named on the internet. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Taking a shot in the dark. Looking for any one connected to the following: James EWINS/EWINES married Mary GILLAM 5 Nov 1748 St George in the East Middlesex England. Believe they had a daughter Judith EWINS/EWINES Born ABT 1850 Middlesex England Can any one help please Pam

At 03:16 PM 27/10/2010, you wrote: >Taking a shot in the dark. : Hi Pam There is a child Judith Ewin born (Dec Qtr 1850) Risbridge district Suffolk, but shown in the 1861 census to have father George Raifness? Ewin, mother Georgianno? of the Three Goats Heads, Haverhill, Suffolk and with five other siblings. The reference is RG09 piece 1124 folio 69 page 3. Not sure if this helps. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

This message has been passed on by a non-subscriber to Middlesex. Ann Middx Admin Margaret Ivy Wright (September 16, 1930 - October 23, 2010) WRIGHT, Margaret Ivy - 80 of Milo Estates in Yarmouth, passed away October 23, 2010 at the Queen Elizabeth Health Sciences Center, Halifax Infirmary site. Born in Middlesex, England, on September 16, 1930, she was a daughter of the late George Edward and Ivy Amy (Smith) Commander. Full text of the obit is here: http://jobspress.com/announcements/obituaries/wright-margaret-ivy-%E2%80%94-80-milo-estates-yarmouth-passed

Hi Pam I think you have got a little muddled with your centuries here! A Judith EWINS, daughter of James and Mary, was baptised at St Mary, Rotherhithe, on 18 March 1753 aged 13 days. A couple with the same names baptised a James in 1751, Ann in 1755 and Edward in 1756, also at St Mary, Rotherhithe. A Judith EWINS married William STRONG at St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey in 1771. Hope this helps Caroline > > James EWINS/EWINES married Mary GILLAM > > 5 Nov 1748 > > St George in the East Middlesex England. > > > > Believe they had a daughter > > > > Judith EWINS/EWINES > > Born ABT 1850 > > Middlesex England > > > > Can any one help please > > > > Pam

Hi all Hope everyone is aware of the fairly new Family Search Beta site at: <https://beta.familysearch.org/>https://beta.familysearch.org/ Seems useful. PS. This is not the pilot site. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Thank you Judy and Anne for your speedy replies. It looks like it is as I expected, to be with Westminster records. I have just sent an email to Michelle Goodman at Westminster, and will forward the money when I have her reply. Anne On 10/26/2010 11:00 AM, Judy Lester wrote: > Anne, > > The St James burial ground on Hampstead Road belonged the parish of St > James Westminster. It was not located within Westminster itself, but in > St Pancras. It is sometimes referred to as St James Camden Town. > FamilySearch doesn't identify the burial ground as such, but there's a > good chance that a burial in 1835 listed as St James Westminster would > be at this Hampstead Road ground, rather than in Westminster itself. > > This burial register is not on Ancestry. There are bishops' transcripts > for St James Westminster (aka St James Piccadilly) 1813-1833, but > unfortunately not for 1835, the year you need. > > To get a copy of the entry in the burial register you will need to send > GBP 4.00 to Westminster City Archives and provide the name, exact date > and the parish. If you email them first, they will explain how you can > do this by credit card. You should appreciate, though, that the only > additional information in the register is likely to be the "abode". It > may be the street, or it may be just the name of the parish (St Pancras, > St Marylebone, or whatever). > > http://www.westminster.gov.uk/services/libraries/archives/family-history > / > > HTH > > Judy > London, UK > >

Sorry, did not scroll right to the end of the email - I stopped at your signature which seemed logically to be the end ;) Obviously, the Camden one is not her. Ancestry does not have St James Westminster as the parish records are in the City of Westminster Archives, not the LMA. Anne Anne Chambers wrote: > There's this > Sarah Horn 9 Jan 1835 Hampstead St John Camden (aged 4 months) > The address given is just 'Hampstead' which isn't that far from Regent's Park > > This is the link for Ancestry > http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1559&enc=1 > > Anne > South Australia > > Anne Chapman wrote: >> Hi Listers, >> I wonder if one of you wonderful people could point me in the right >> direction to finding the actual record of this death/burial. These >> details have been sent to me by my cousin, to see if I could find them. >> Swithin Horne& his wife Eliza Matthews lived at 9 Munster Street, >> Regents Park, at the time their daughter, Sarah was born. On the >> Greenwood's map of 1827, there is a St James Burial Ground to the right >> on my printed map -- maybe this should be East of Munster Street (now no >> longer there) >> Firstly, can someone confirm if this St James Burial Ground would >> be classed as Westminster at the time? If not. can someone tell me >> where that St James, Westminister, would be? >> Secondly, I have looked at Ancestry England Deaths& Burials and >> cannot now find how we used to go to the records of the actual churches, >> H E L P >> Thirdly, Is this one of the churches, that is not handled by Ancestry? >> In 1842 Swithin purchased a Grave plot at Kensal Green Cemetery >> which has Swithin, Eliza, three of their sons plus Eliza's mother, Sarah >> Matthews, (widowed wife of James Matthews). These 6 were buried between >> 1842 and 1886. There is a headstone in the form of a rectangular box >> which has been found, with huge rejoicing. >> Sorry for this being long, but wanted to give you all relevant >> details. We are just hoping this is her, and we have finally found the >> last of the children. >> Thanking you very much for any help you can give >> me. Anne >> >> Name: Sarah Horne, >> Gender: Female, >> Burial Date: 15 Feb 1835 >> Burial Place: Westminster, Middlesex, England, >> Death Date: 1835, >> Death Place: , >> Age: 0, >> Birth Date: 1835, >> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B02329-6, >> System Origin: England-EASy, >> Source Film Number: 1866535, >> Reference Number: Vol 7 p557, >> Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991,, >> >> Name: Sarah Horne, >> Burial Date: 15 Feb 1835, >> Burial Place: Saint James, Westminster, Middlesex, >> Age: 0, >> Birth Date: 1835, >> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B02124-1, >> System Origin: England-EASy, >> Source Film Number: 1042316, >> Reference Number: v 27 p 351, >> Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991,,, >> >> Below is my Great Grandfather's sister, whom we have not been able to >> find any further record of. Never with the family in any of the Census >> records. We have traced all records of the balance of the 13 children >> of Swithin Horne and his wife Eliza Matthews. >> >> Name: Sarah Horne, >> Gender: Female, >> Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Feb 1835 >> Baptism/Christening Place: OLD CHURCH,SAINT PANCRAS,LONDON,ENGLAND, >> Birth Date: 26 Jan 1835,: >> Father's Name: Swithin Horne, >> Mother's Name: Eliza >> ************************************** >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Listers, I wonder if one of you wonderful people could point me in the right direction to finding the actual record of this death/burial. These details have been sent to me by my cousin, to see if I could find them. Swithin Horne & his wife Eliza Matthews lived at 9 Munster Street, Regents Park, at the time their daughter, Sarah was born. On the Greenwood's map of 1827, there is a St James Burial Ground to the right on my printed map -- maybe this should be East of Munster Street (now no longer there) Firstly, can someone confirm if this St James Burial Ground would be classed as Westminster at the time? If not. can someone tell me where that St James, Westminister, would be? Secondly, I have looked at Ancestry England Deaths & Burials and cannot now find how we used to go to the records of the actual churches, H E L P Thirdly, Is this one of the churches, that is not handled by Ancestry? In 1842 Swithin purchased a Grave plot at Kensal Green Cemetery which has Swithin, Eliza, three of their sons plus Eliza's mother, Sarah Matthews, (widowed wife of James Matthews). These 6 were buried between 1842 and 1886. There is a headstone in the form of a rectangular box which has been found, with huge rejoicing. Sorry for this being long, but wanted to give you all relevant details. We are just hoping this is her, and we have finally found the last of the children. Thanking you very much for any help you can give me. Anne Name: Sarah Horne, Gender: Female, Burial Date: 15 Feb 1835 Burial Place: Westminster, Middlesex, England, Death Date: 1835, Death Place: , Age: 0, Birth Date: 1835, Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B02329-6, System Origin: England-EASy, Source Film Number: 1866535, Reference Number: Vol 7 p557, Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991,, Name: Sarah Horne, Burial Date: 15 Feb 1835, Burial Place: Saint James, Westminster, Middlesex, Age: 0, Birth Date: 1835, Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B02124-1, System Origin: England-EASy, Source Film Number: 1042316, Reference Number: v 27 p 351, Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991,,, Below is my Great Grandfather's sister, whom we have not been able to find any further record of. Never with the family in any of the Census records. We have traced all records of the balance of the 13 children of Swithin Horne and his wife Eliza Matthews. Name: Sarah Horne, Gender: Female, Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Feb 1835 Baptism/Christening Place: OLD CHURCH,SAINT PANCRAS,LONDON,ENGLAND, Birth Date: 26 Jan 1835,: Father's Name: Swithin Horne, Mother's Name: Eliza