Nivard Ovington wrote: > Now I didn't say order the cert and hope for the best I didn't say you did :)) > They haven't withdrawn the reference check they have altered and improved it I understood they had. That was certainly what was being said at the time and it's also what I was told by the GRO themselves not so long ago. Never mind, forget I said anything then. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hello Listers, Is there any on-line facility to check the records from the Church of Corpus Christi in Maiden Lane, London? Many of my ancestors were christened and married here. Best regards frm Nigel

No, Jan. This was a church of the Swedenborgian sect - Google for more details. Best wishes Caroline Sent from my iPad On 2 Nov 2010, at 21:53, "Neil & Jan Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> wrote: An ancestor was baptised in the New Jerusalemite Church, Friar St, Blackfriars in 1811. Would this have been an Anglican Church ? The father was Mark McLacklin and the mother Pamela. Thanks, Jan ----- >

Now I didn't say order the cert and hope for the best They haven't withdrawn the reference check they have altered and improved it As I understand the new system you can order *with* a reference (ie the fathers name) and if found true they will supply the cert, if found false they tell you but do not charge Thats not hope Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > There are three ways to find out other than ordering the cert and > hoping for the best. > > One is to put in the father's name and hope for the best. > > Another is to mail the GRO (with GQ in the subject line) and ask their > advice on the best way to order a cert with a specified father now > they've withdrawn the reference checking facility. > > The alternative is to ask the register office. > > However, IIRC, Islington is one of the unco-operative register offices > who'll tell you to go to the GRO. If they are still as awkward as > they used to be, then it's a matter of contacting the GRO and asking > them to ask the "relevant person" to contact the register office and > tell them to co-operate! :)) > > -- > Charani (UK)

Nivard Ovington wrote: > I haven't used that part of the system so perhaps someone else can confirm > my understanding There are three ways to find out other than ordering the cert and hoping for the best. One is to put in the father's name and hope for the best. Another is to mail the GRO (with GQ in the subject line) and ask their advice on the best way to order a cert with a specified father now they've withdrawn the reference checking facility. The alternative is to ask the register office. However, IIRC, Islington is one of the unco-operative register offices who'll tell you to go to the GRO. If they are still as awkward as they used to be, then it's a matter of contacting the GRO and asking them to ask the "relevant person" to contact the register office and tell them to co-operate! :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hi Bob When the price went up last April they also changed a few other things, the checking system is now the same price and if the check is false you are not charged whereas you used to get a part of the fee back so on the face of it that is an improvement I haven't used that part of the system so perhaps someone else can confirm my understanding Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi been some time since I last ordered a certificate from the GRO, do the > they still have the facility for reference checking? > In this case I want to check out the father's name for a William > Frederick or possibly William Percy LEE born in Holborn in 1884 or in > Islington in 1885 respectively. > This LEE family in the the 1891, 1901 and 1911 census has been fairly > consistant with William's age at census time being 6, 16, and 26 and his > birthplace being Islington or just London. > 1881 to 1901 census finds the LEE family located at Islington so they > didn't move away from the registration district of Islington. > William had a sister Minnie Florence who was born, baptised and registered > in Islington in the April to June quarter of 1882. Her

Hi Listers In 1870 would theRoyal Bavarian Catholic Church be the same church as that on a marriage certificate, stateing that, the marriage solemnized at Parish Church in the parish of St George Hanover Square Darryl

On 2 Nov 2010, at 15:29, W. D. Jones wrote: > I believe Cornwall Cottages were on Popham Street, Islington, From 'Streets with a Story ' by Eric Willats, former Reference Librarian at Islington Libraries. CORNWALL COTTAGES, Cornwall Place, Grove Street (1822) CORNWALL COTTAGES, Popham Street (1883-90) The following is an extract from Bridget Fox's blog (Islington Lib-Dem councillor): "Popham Street still exists, running between Essex Road and Prebend Street, but the 19th century houses have long gone. In 1928, the New Survey of London Life and Labour found this area had some of the worst overcrowding with over 1.75 persons to a room. The houses were demolished and replaced by the Popham estate in the 1960s, but not before Cathy Come was filmed there" JH > and if I'm > right they were there at least until 1920. > Google (maps) Popham St., Islington. It's still there. > > Good hunting, > > Bill Jones.

Online Census searches often give the opportunity to look at neighbours. If you do this you can often find a larger road - which is still in existence. "Cornwall Cottages" may not be a road name - if not, looking at the images may show the name of the road they were in. -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Mills Sent: 02 November 2010 10:13 To: Middlesex_County_UK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] Cornwall Cottages Hi everyone On the 1901 Census, my Great Grandparents were living at 45 Cornwall Cottages Islington. Can anyone tell me where on todays map they would have been and what sort of area this was? Many thanks Steve Mills in Hornchurch Essex Looking for CLARKE in Islington MILLS in Suffolk CABOT in Channel Islands ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe Cornwall Cottages were on Popham Street, Islington, and if I'm right they were there at least until 1920. Google (maps) Popham St., Islington. It's still there. Good hunting, Bill Jones.

Hi all, Could someone tell me if the "Old Edmonton" cemetery still exists? Our family bible has a special events page & in it is recorded that so & so are Buried in a cemetery of the above name. I think there are 5 members buried There, but I'm not certain. Thanks, Carol in B.C.

Hi everyone On the 1901 Census, my Great Grandparents were living at 45 Cornwall Cottages Islington. Can anyone tell me where on todays map they would have been and what sort of area this was? Many thanks Steve Mills in Hornchurch Essex Looking for CLARKE in Islington MILLS in Suffolk CABOT in Channel Islands

Definitely not, Darryl. The Royal Bavarian Chapel (now known as Our Lady of the Assumption and St Gregory) started life as the chapel of the Portugese Embassy and was taken over by the Bavarian Embassy when the former moved out of the building. It was a Roman Catholic Chapel. The Parish Church in the parish of St George Hanover Square was, unsurprisingly, St George! Best wishes Caroline > > In 1870 would theRoyal Bavarian Catholic Church be the same church as > that on a marriage certificate, stateing that, the marriage solemnized > at Parish Church in the parish of St George Hanover Square > Darryl

Darryl Simpson wrote: > In 1870 would theRoyal Bavarian Catholic Church be the same church > as that on a marriage certificate, stateing that, the marriage > solemnized at Parish Church in the parish of St George Hanover > Square The parish church would be CoE, not Roman Catholic. If the marriage had taken place in the latter, it would have been stated on the certificate just as a marriage that took place in a synagogue or register office would have been. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

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At 07:20 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote: >Thank you Graham, Think the only one you did not mention was Mozilla >which I use. Anne Perhaps the latest edition might include that. You could download it and check it out, then uninstall if it does not suit. Any further correspondence re. this perhaps should be off-list so as not to clog things up. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Thank you Graham, Think the only one you did not mention was Mozilla which I use. Anne On 11/1/2010 6:09 PM, Graham Price wrote: > Hi all > This is sort of half on list and half off list. You don't want to > lose all those family history contacts that you have made over the > years, do you? Well, I have found a programme that helps to sustain > that connection in case your computer karks it some time in the near > future. It is Eze-Email Back-up, a free programme that may be accessed through: > <http://www.retinaxstudios.com/ezemailbackup/overview.php>http://www.retinaxstudios.com/ezemailbackup/overview.php > I don't normally present these things to the list, but I have found > this programme a very useful one. I certainly do not want to lose all > those email addresses with family history connections that I have > gathered since 1994. That's a lot of info not to be lost. Install the > programme, run it and then copy the results (all your email > addresses, all your emails etc.) to a CD or DVD for future safety. > Include the original programme as well just to be safe. Can't be too > careful, can you? At my last look, Eze-Email will back-up Microsoft > Outlook, Microsoft Outlook Express, Eudora, Opera Mail, Netscape > Messenger, The Bat, Poco Mail, Incredi Mail, Pegasus Mail and > Internet Explorer favourites. You only need to select what you want. > Happy family history free searching. > > Cheers > Graham > Melbourne > Oz > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi all This is sort of half on list and half off list. You don't want to lose all those family history contacts that you have made over the years, do you? Well, I have found a programme that helps to sustain that connection in case your computer karks it some time in the near future. It is Eze-Email Back-up, a free programme that may be accessed through: <http://www.retinaxstudios.com/ezemailbackup/overview.php>http://www.retinaxstudios.com/ezemailbackup/overview.php I don't normally present these things to the list, but I have found this programme a very useful one. I certainly do not want to lose all those email addresses with family history connections that I have gathered since 1994. That's a lot of info not to be lost. Install the programme, run it and then copy the results (all your email addresses, all your emails etc.) to a CD or DVD for future safety. Include the original programme as well just to be safe. Can't be too careful, can you? At my last look, Eze-Email will back-up Microsoft Outlook, Microsoft Outlook Express, Eudora, Opera Mail, Netscape Messenger, The Bat, Poco Mail, Incredi Mail, Pegasus Mail and Internet Explorer favourites. You only need to select what you want. Happy family history free searching. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Anne Chapman wrote: > Thank you Graham, Think the only one you did not mention was Mozilla > which I use. I use Thunderbird and SeaMonkey. Few apps support SeaMonkey because it's now independent of Mozilla even though it's the successor to Mozilla Suite. I use SimpleSave to back up my entire hard drive so I not only don't lose any emails or email contacts, I don't lose my genealogy program, research or anything else. I'm saying nowt more onlist :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

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