>From The Times, Tuesday, Oct 03, 1848; pg.7; Issue 19984; col B DIED. On the 8th ult., at Selby, in Yorkshire, suddenly, Thomas WHOWELL, Esq., of Barnsbury-park, Islington, deeply lamented by his disconsolate wife and all who knew him.

>From The Times, Tuesday, Oct 03, 1848; pg.7; Issue 19984; col B DIED. On Friday, the 29th ult., at Hammersmith, Middlesex, Elizabeth BELL , widow of Mr. David BELL , late of Sydney. On the 29th ult., suddenly, Benjamin BERRY , Esq., of 21, Paultons-square, Chelsea, aged 54. On Saturday, the 30th ult., in the 73d year of his age, Mr. Thomas BUNN , for nearly half a century a highly respected inhabitant of No. 8, Cheapside. On the 30th ult., at his residence, Chester-place, Kennington, Robert STI RLING , Esq., aged 56. On 30th ult., at Brompton, in the 29th year of her age, Mary Ann, the wife of Mr. John GOOCH, jun. On the 1st inst., Harcourt Master, third son of Roger GADSDEN , Esq., of Maida-hill West, aged 16. On the 1st inst., Anna, wife of the Rev. Edward John SMITH , Norwood Parsonage, Middlesex.

Thank you Dianne. That will help greatly. I am not going to be surprised if there is not a gravestone for an 18 day old baby. I am just so pleased to have got details of her burial, and she was not put in with another burial on the same day with no record. We have been searching for her details for over 20 years. By the way, for anyone searching for a burial for Captain Matthew Flinders (indexed as Flanders). Matthew Flinders died at 14 London Street, Fitzroy Square, and was buried in the graveyard of St. James's, Hampstead Road, aged 40. This was found by a cousin of mine in the last day or so. Hoping that will help somebody. On 11/7/2010 11:32 AM, Dianne wrote: > Francis Cansick made a record of all the gravestones in this burial ground during the C19th. Copies are held at The Society of Genealogists and I think at Swiss Cottage Library. I believe the fiche were created by one of the Middlesex FHS’S. > I found my 4x grandfather (d1814) and his wife(died 1820) but I think the details go on much later than this. Hope this is of help. > > > I use BullGuard Spamfilter to keep my inbox clean. > It is completely free:www.bullguard.com/freespamfilter > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at:Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toMIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, This has come from the Cheshire list, posted by Christine. It could be useful to some members, being a fairly new genealogy web site. You can subscribe to a weekly newsletter which gives useful tips about recent and forthcoming genealogy news. The site has a very fast search engine even though I personally have not found anything to fit in with my own research. http://www.genealogyintime.com/ Good fortune Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Francis Cansick made a record of all the gravestones in this burial ground during the C19th. Copies are held at The Society of Genealogists and I think at Swiss Cottage Library. I believe the fiche were created by one of the Middlesex FHS’S. I found my 4x grandfather (d1814) and his wife(died 1820) but I think the details go on much later than this. Hope this is of help. I use BullGuard Spamfilter to keep my inbox clean. It is completely free: www.bullguard.com/freespamfilter

My relative was Frances Broughton WILLIAMS who married Robert Jefferys DOWNS at St Leonards, Shoreditch in 1806. I would really like to find details of her birth and parents if at all possible please? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Bradford" <caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [MDX] New Jerusalemite Church, Friar St , Blackfriars > No, Jan. This was a church of the Swedenborgian sect - Google for more details. > > Best wishes > > Caroline > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2 Nov 2010, at 21:53, "Neil & Jan Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> wrote: > > An ancestor was baptised in the New Jerusalemite Church, Friar St, Blackfriars in 1811. Would this have been an Anglican Church ? The father was Mark McLacklin and the mother Pamela. > > Thanks, > Jan > ----- >> > > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is quite an amazing story and one that's been much forgotten: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11652782 Gyles MACKRELL was born in Marylebone Q4 1888, s of Registered Medical Practitioner Surgeon, Alfred S MACKRELL and Mary J (nee WELLS). He was living in Wrotham, Kent in 1891. He was a student at Epsom COllege by 1901. According to the article he spent most of his life in Assam. He seems to have gone there by 1911 as he doesn't appear to on the census for that year. He received the George Medal for the rescue using elephants. He died in Blyth RD, Suffolk, Q1 1959. Is there anyone on the list who is connected to this family? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

>From The Times ( London, England ), Thursday, Jul 08, 1790; pg.3; Issue 1728. BIGAMY. Thomas BUTTERS was indicted for feloniously marrying a second wife while the first was still living, and resident within the kingdom. It was clearly proved, that the prisoner was married to Susanah PROVET, on 25th May 1788, at St.George's Hanover Square, and that he was married to Eleanor JEMMETT, in January 1718, at St. George's Bloomsbury. A witness saw his first wife about six weeks ago. Guilty. NOT connected to our research. Although this has been typed exactly as the newspaper reports, the age of Thomas BUTTERS in 1790 would have been very advanced if the date of his marriage to Eleanor JEMMETT is correct.

That is great, thank you Caroline. Anne On 11/6/2010 9:43 AM, Caroline Bradford wrote: > Hi Anne > > "The Churchyard at first contained four acres, but it is now three-quarters > of its original size since the London and North Western Railway, by their > Act of Parliament of 1883, took over an acre for their own use. The St. > Pancras Vestry thereafter obtained the necessary powers to acquire the > burial ground and to lay it out as a public garden. This was done at a cost > of £2,907 7s. 1d. and the gardens were formally opened on 17th August, 1887, > by Olive, wife of Harry Lawson, M.P." > > From: 'St. James Church, Hampstead Road', Survey of London: volume 21: The > parish of St Pancras part 3: Tottenham Court Road& neighbourhood (1949), > pp. 123-136. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=65195 > Date accessed: 05 November 2010.> > > Hope this helps > > Caroline >

Hi Listers, One of my Great Aunts was buried here on 15 February 1835 at just 18 days old. This later became St James Park, I believe, and any Headstones, still readable were moved round the edge. The Burying Ground was quite close to Munster Street, Pancras (Regents Park) where the parents Swithin & Eliza Horne lived. Swithin was a Master Butcher and operated several shops in the area. Can anyone advise me when the Burying Ground was made a Park? Cecil Rhodes owned a farm to the North of the Ground. Hope you can help. Anne

>From The Times, Saturday, Sept. 30, 1854; pg.10; Issue 21860; col F MRS. WARNER. - The death of this esteemed actress, which occurred on Sunday night, was occasioned by a painful and lingering complaint, which had long deprived the stage of her services, and which she endured with exemplary fortitude. At her own request she is to be buried in Highgate Cemetery, and the funeral is appointed for Monday next. If anyone has her as an Ancestor there are pictures of her on this site:- http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person.php?LinkID=mp54622 Also, this site may be of interest :- http://writersgate.co.uk/erye.htm Death Registration of Mary Amelia WARNER St.Pancras Sept.Qtr 1854 1b 42. NOT connected to our research.

Hi Anne "The Churchyard at first contained four acres, but it is now three-quarters of its original size since the London and North Western Railway, by their Act of Parliament of 1883, took over an acre for their own use. The St. Pancras Vestry thereafter obtained the necessary powers to acquire the burial ground and to lay it out as a public garden. This was done at a cost of £2,907 7s. 1d. and the gardens were formally opened on 17th August, 1887, by Olive, wife of Harry Lawson, M.P." From: 'St. James Church, Hampstead Road', Survey of London: volume 21: The parish of St Pancras part 3: Tottenham Court Road & neighbourhood (1949), pp. 123-136. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=65195 Date accessed: 05 November 2010.> Hope this helps Caroline > Hi Listers, > One of my Great Aunts was buried here on 15 February 1835 at just > 18 days old. This later became St James Park, I believe, and any > Headstones, still readable were moved round the edge. > The Burying Ground was quite close to Munster Street, Pancras > (Regents Park) where the parents Swithin & Eliza Horne lived. Swithin > was a Master Butcher and operated several shops in the area. > Can anyone advise me when the Burying Ground was made a Park? > Cecil Rhodes owned a farm to the North of the Ground. > Hope you can help. Anne

>From The Times, Friday, Jul 03,1885; pg.1; Issue 31489; col A The Funeral of the late Matthew WARTON will take place at Highgate Cemetery on Saturday, the 4th inst. at 2 o'clock.

Gday Ann Thank you for your email,i will do abit more digging into the church records for the places you have mentioned. Bert in Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Sargeant" <ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] LMA Talks and Walk in November > >From: "Herbert Seabrooke" <lapool@alphalink.com.au> >>Is there any way we can get a print out of the talk that is to be held on >>the 18th i have been looking for John Seabrook who was a perfumer and >>lucifer match >>maker of Worship Street and Chiswell Streets during this period. >>As i live in Australia i cannot attend. >>Bert in Oz > > I honestly don't know, but would be very surprised if the talk were to be > available online. All the major archives offer downloadable research > guides > and information leaflets from their websites but it can often be very > difficult to get below the surface of a huge subject. > > Maybe we can help you here on the List. According to Cliff Webb's > invaluable guides to Genealogical Research in Victorian London, from the > early to mid Victorian period the churches closest to Worship Street in > the > timeframe would have been St Leonard, Shoreditch and St Mary Spital > Square - > the area is close to the parish boundary with Bethnal Green. And for > Chiswell Street, St Paul's Bunhill Row Records of all at LMA and therefore > theoretically should all be found via Ancestry - however this area is on > the > edge of the City itself so maybe they used one of the City churches. Folk > here will doubtless be able to offer further advice and help. > > Maybe of interest, there is a "History and Genealogy Roadshow" in Cities > across Australia and NZ through the rest of this month and whilst it may > not > be the place to answer detailed questions about research in > Middlesex/London, it may be useful. Starting in Adelaide on 8th November, > and ending up in Auckland on 24th, this event will presumably be > advertised > locally. > > Ann > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Listers.. I would like some help please with my George Bartlett.. I have found in the London baptisms George William Harbord Bartlett christened 16/4/1826..born 26/5/1823 son of George Bartlett and Sophia (Greengrass) Bartlett I cant find him on any census in the uk but found this in the States US Naturalization Record Indexes 1791-1992(Indexd in World Archives Project) on Ancestry George William Hubert Bartlett born 26/5/1823 Place England age 25 Court District. Maine. Massachusetts. New Hampshire. and Vermont Date of Action 2/3/1849 Could this be my man with a slight name change,,Harbord to Hubert.. if so why cant I find him anywhere else.. Any advice would be helpful.. Mary Sydney

Hi Bert, Was quite taken with the combination of occupations. Did any of your Seabrook family come to NSW -- We had a George Seabrook as a Inn Licensee, here in Denison Town and at Redbank (Dunedoo) in the 1850's - 1870's? I would need to look up the dates we have for him. I am the Publicity and Research Officer for our local Historical Museum. Would be good to hear if there is a chance he could be yours. Contact me off list, if you want to. Anne On 11/3/2010 12:27 PM, Herbert Seabrooke wrote: > Dear Ann. > Is there any way we can get a print out of the talk that is to be held on > the 18th > i have been looking for John Seabrook who was a perfumer and lucifer match > maker of Worship Street and Chiswell Streets during this period. > As i live in Australia i cannot attend. > Bert in Oz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Sargeant"<ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com> > To: "Middlesex List"<middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:32 PM > Subject: [MDX] LMA Talks and Walk in November > > > > 18 November: **Lost in London? Solving your London Family History Problems > ** > Tracing your ancestors back to the period before > civil registration and the Victorian census returns can present a genuine > challenge to most family historians. But if your family came from > Middlesex/London, > the problems that you’re likely to face can be even harder to overcome. The > population of London doubled between 1801 and 1841 making it the most > populated city in world. The administration of the area was enormously > complicated. The records of the various authorities responsible for running > London are now > spread around a number of different record offices.This talk will explain > how to access and make the most of the capital’s diverse collection of > records and will give some useful tips on tracking down those elusive > Middlesex/London > ancestors. > This talk at London Metropolitan Archives on Thursday 18 November from 2 to > 3 pm is FREE but you must book in advance on 020 7332 3851. > > 23 November: **London During World War I - Guided Walk** > Hear about the fascination and terror of the Zeppelin and Gotha bombing > campaigns. > Discover more about the internment of the German community, Belgian > refugees, rationing, the women’s war and how some wounded soldiers > entertained themselves. Meet at Holborn. Walk ends at Embankment. > This guided walk on Tuesday 23 November from 11 am to 1 pm is £5. You must > book in advance on 020 7332 3851. (Please note: the walk originally > advertised for Monday 22 November has now sold out.) > > 29 November: **To The Rescue - Discover the history of the Royal Humane > Society, Lloyd’s > Patriotic Fund, Lloyd’s Medals and the Society for the Protection of Life > > From Fire.** > For over two hundred years these organizations have bestowed bravery awards > to men and women including a Tsar, Grace Darling and Bram Stoker. The > records of these organizations held by LMA tell the stories of the bravery > of ordinary people in times of war and peace. There will be the opportunity > to view documents from the collections. > > This talk at London Metropolitan Archives on Monday 29 November from 2 to 3 > pm is FREE but you must book in advance on 020 7332 3851 > > > Ann > Middx Admin > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

>From: "Herbert Seabrooke" <lapool@alphalink.com.au> >Is there any way we can get a print out of the talk that is to be held on >the 18th i have been looking for John Seabrook who was a perfumer and >lucifer match >maker of Worship Street and Chiswell Streets during this period. >As i live in Australia i cannot attend. >Bert in Oz I honestly don't know, but would be very surprised if the talk were to be available online. All the major archives offer downloadable research guides and information leaflets from their websites but it can often be very difficult to get below the surface of a huge subject. Maybe we can help you here on the List. According to Cliff Webb's invaluable guides to Genealogical Research in Victorian London, from the early to mid Victorian period the churches closest to Worship Street in the timeframe would have been St Leonard, Shoreditch and St Mary Spital Square - the area is close to the parish boundary with Bethnal Green. And for Chiswell Street, St Paul's Bunhill Row Records of all at LMA and therefore theoretically should all be found via Ancestry - however this area is on the edge of the City itself so maybe they used one of the City churches. Folk here will doubtless be able to offer further advice and help. Maybe of interest, there is a "History and Genealogy Roadshow" in Cities across Australia and NZ through the rest of this month and whilst it may not be the place to answer detailed questions about research in Middlesex/London, it may be useful. Starting in Adelaide on 8th November, and ending up in Auckland on 24th, this event will presumably be advertised locally. Ann

user917826@aol.com wrote: > Hello all, > > I have a question I have been hesitant to ask but here goes... > Are all the English census records from 1841 on from Middlesex and > London online on Ancestry? If not, are they more complete anywhere > else? Ancestry doesn't have the 1911 census but you'll find that one on FindMyPast along with all the others from 1841. You'll also find the 1911 on www.1911census.co.uk and on genes reunited. Ancestry and FMP did their own indices so if you can't find the family you want one, you might find it on the other. There are folios missing from all the censuses that disappeared long before the censuses were filmed. The 1861 has a number of pieces missing either completely or partially. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hi Bev The simple answer is yes but all census years have their problems Some parts are missing, hard to read (therefore prone to mistranscription error) etc You may find a person on one supplier but not on another but it normally just the interpretation of the transcriber rather than actually missing The best thing to do is post the peoples details and let others have a look Give the details you know including any census reference you may have found them in Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello all, > > I have a question I have been hesitant to ask but here goes... > Are all the English census records from 1841 on from Middlesex and > London online on Ancestry? If not, are they more complete anywhere > else? > > Thanks, > > Bev W

Good luck Bob with your orders. Looking forward to hearing how you get on. Yes, my horse must be still running as I heard nothing about it. Anne On 11/3/2010 10:30 AM, Robert Campbell wrote: > Hi Charani, > well I have just ordered the first 9 quid + certificate without the GRO > reference as Judy suggested. Delivery will be around the 24th (I hope) and > when I receive this, or a refund earlier, I will let the list know the > results. Thus everyone will know for sure the GRO's current proceedure where > the correct certificate reference is not so cut and dried. If I get it wrong > and they refund the full fee it will be 100% improvement on yesterdays > Melbourne Cup. (my horse is still running!) > A bit of a rose for Islington Council their family history library offers > excellant service for those researchers from "out of town." > cheers > Bob in Sunny Brisbane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charani"<charani.b@gmail.com> > To:<middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 8:30 AM > Subject: Re: [MDX] reference checking for certificates ordered from the > GROandWilliam F or P LEE from Islington. > > >> Nivard Ovington wrote: >>> Now I didn't say order the cert and hope for the best >> I didn't say you did :)) >> >>> They haven't withdrawn the reference check they have altered and improved >>> it >> I understood they had. That was certainly what was being said at the time >> and it's also what I was told by the GRO themselves not so long ago. >> >> Never mind, forget I said anything then. >> >> -- >> Charani (UK) >> OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM >> Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM >> http://wsom-opc.org.uk >> http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ >> >> > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >