> On 10 December 2010 01:00, Cherrie Cameron <camerc@y7mail.com> wrote: >> Recently I have been receiving mail from this site, and other rootsweb sites, >> that is practically indecipherable. An example ' I've written to Cherrie Off List to hopefully resolve this issue. Worth noting that in the event of such problems, the address for contacting List Admin is at the foot of every List message. Ann Middx Admin
Thank you Nivard, I second Jon's comments. Anne On 12/10/2010 10:01 AM, Jon's FH wrote: > Absolutely brilliant! Thanks for alerting us to this Nivard! > > Best wishes, Jon > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
On 12/09/2010 08:17 PM, Charani wrote: > Cherrie Cameron wrote: > >> Anyone else having this problem, and is there anyone out there with knowled= >> ge = >> >> how to overcome this problem.=A0 I have to say I get discouraged and someti= >> mes = >> >> don't persevere to read the message, which is a sad comment. > This is how your mail appears when I look at the source. > > You're using "quoted printable" which is probably why you are having > problems *but* this is something you need to take up with the list > admin *offlist*. Problems like this are one of the reasons there are > list admins. > > Rootsweb does sometimes autoconvert from "quoted printable" to plain > text but not always. > looks to me like it's html source code being displayed in text only mode. in which case the OP is correct in trying to display in text mode and the original sender is wrong transmitting HTML encoded emails to a message board.
Cherrie Cameron wrote: > Anyone else having this problem, and is there anyone out there with knowled= > ge = > > how to overcome this problem.=A0 I have to say I get discouraged and someti= > mes = > > don't persevere to read the message, which is a sad comment. This is how your mail appears when I look at the source. You're using "quoted printable" which is probably why you are having problems *but* this is something you need to take up with the list admin *offlist*. Problems like this are one of the reasons there are list admins. Rootsweb does sometimes autoconvert from "quoted printable" to plain text but not always. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/
Also be aware that part of the address may have been caught up in the first-name field. E.g. Mr HARGREAVES, landlord of the Farmers' Arms, is indexed as Mr Arms HARGREAVES. Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J K gen Do bear in mind that many of the entries for the head of the household (the ones included in the summary) only have surnames - thus Mr Bloggs rather than Fred Bloggs etc. Not sure if they have included Mr in first name field, but those I checked (rather quickly) were found with surname and part address. Ancestry allows searching for just part address, or even single keyword with the rest as blanks. Lovely. JK On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Jon's FH <jons.fh@btinternet.com> wrote: > Absolutely brilliant! Thanks for alerting us to this Nivard! >
Do bear in mind that many of the entries for the head of the household (the ones included in the summary) only have surnames - thus Mr Bloggs rather than Fred Bloggs etc. Not sure if they have included Mr in first name field, but those I checked (rather quickly) were found with surname and part address. Ancestry allows searching for just part address, or even single keyword with the rest as blanks. Lovely. JK On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Jon's FH <jons.fh@btinternet.com> wrote: > Absolutely brilliant! Thanks for alerting us to this Nivard! >
Absolutely brilliant! Thanks for alerting us to this Nivard! Best wishes, Jon
Hi all The 1911 Enumerators summary books are now available on Ancestry A sample of an entry is below Name: Mrs Yoell Number of Males: 3 Number of Females: 3 Household schedule number: 272 Street address: 25 Fleet Street Civil Parish: Swindon Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Registration district: Swindon Registration District Number: 2 Sub-registration district: Swindon Sub-Registration District Number: 2 ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Source Citation: Class: RG78; Piece: 651 as you can see you can click a link which lists the neighbours, and can view the summary pages They are searchable by most if not all fields such as address This is a first step to releasing the 1911 schedules Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
Recently I have been receiving mail from this site, and other rootsweb sites, that is practically indecipherable. An example ' >From FreeBMD<BR>Marriages Dec 1911<BR>Moles John J Edmonton 3a 1145 <BR>WRIGHT Daisy D Edmonton 3a 1145<BR><BR><BR>Marriages Sep 1948<BR>Hill Ethel R Moles Edmonton 5e 1089 <BR>Moles John J Hill Edmonton 5e 1089<BR><BR>and from Ancestry<BR>Name: Joseph J Moles<BR>Death Registration Month/Year: 1956<BR>Age at death (estimated): 72<BR>Registration district: Edmonton<BR>Inferred County: Middlesex<BR>Volume: 5e<BR>Page: 279<BR><BR>and possibly<BR>Name: Ethel Reada Moles<BR>Birth Date: 3 Oct 1892<BR>Death Registration Month/Year: 1979<BR>Registration district: Enfield<BR>Inferred County: Greater London<BR>Volume: 12<BR>Page: 0313<BR><BR>Anne<BR>South Australia<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Robert Campbell wrote:<BR>> I have 2 marriages for a John J (Joseph J?) Moles, first in 1911 to a Miss Wright and later to an Ethel R.<BR>> Hill, both of which happened at Edmonton, Middlesex. Is there record somwhere for the death registration of<BR>> John J and Ethel R Moles?<BR>><BR>> A Joseph John Moles was born at Edmonton in the December quarter of 1883, so this may provide an indication<BR>> to his death registration, his record could be in either combination of forenames.<BR>><BR>> cheers Bob in Brisbane ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT**<BR><BR>" Anyone else having this problem, and is there anyone out there with knowledge how to overcome this problem. I have to say I get discouraged and sometimes don't persevere to read the message, which is a sad comment. Cherrie from Oz
Apologies in advance for the length, but I wanted to say what I already have. I have a brickwall family of PARTRIDGEs, parents James and Elizabeth (nee VASPER). All their 5 children were baptised at Harmondsworth St Mary's between 1817 and 1825. I know what happened to their 2 sons, James and John, as they both immigrated to South Australia at different times. James was in the Royal Sappers and Miners, and his service papers give as his birthplace "the parish of Pyle in or near the Town of Staines..." I know this is Poyle. I know Elizabeth and her family were from Harmondsworth which could be why her children were baptised there. There were 3 other children, Caroline, Ann and Henry, and I can't find what happened to them, nor can I find definite deaths for James and Elizabeth. There are some perhaps possibles: A James Partridge, died 19 Oct 1844 at Middlesex Hospital. This fits in beautifully with information on John's marriage certificate that his father was dead by Feb 1845....the earlier marriage of his brother, James, in June 1844, does not say he is deceased. There are also discrepancies in the occupations given...Guard in one and Gardener in the other....both very clearly written. The death certificate of the one dying in the Middlesex Hospital says he was a Baker, otherwise I would probably claim him. An Elizabeth Partridge, died 22 Dec 1866 Union Workhouse Isleworth. Right age for mine, and a Garden Labourer. So to help decide, I need local knowledge re whether it is possible that James and Elizabeth were respectively in the Middlesex Hospital and the Isleworth Workhouse, when Staines had its own workhouse. And while I'm on it, I can't find any of the family in the 1841 census...in 1851 John was in Middlesbrough, and James was already carrying out the survey of Adelaide. And I have no idea where James Partridge senior was from or his parentage. Thanks for reading this far. Jan South Australia
Thanks Nivard. A nice move on your part to alert the list. I've passed it along to my wife who does Lancshire. Cheers Phil On 2010-12-09, at 3:39 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi all > > The 1911 Enumerators summary books are now available on Ancestry > > A sample of an entry is below
>From London Evening Post ( London, England ), January 23, 1753 - January 25, 1753; Issue 3938. BANKRUPTS. John NEVILLE, of the Parish of St. James, Westminster, Goldsmith, Dealer and Chapman. John WEATH of the Strand in the County of Middlesex, Warehouse-Keeper and Chapman. Thomas CRIPPS, of New Brentford in the County of Middlesex, Plumber.
Curtain Road (from memory) runs east-west just north of the Thames - ends south of Mile End tube station. (It still existed in the 1990's, so it should be findable). -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paula Patterson Sent: 08 December 2010 00:22 To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] A WINTER Tale > Out of interest, do these addresses mean anything to others - The Curtain, Christopher's Alley, Horseshoe Alley? Rose& Crown Court I can understand. Horseshoe/Horse Shoe Alley was a turning off of Middlesex Street in Shoreditch, just south of New Goulston Street which still exists. Middlesex Street was also (and is still known) as Petticoat Lane. Paula ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
--Hi all- Maybe "The Curtain"refers to the Theatre in CURTAIN Rd . London .... my rellies were resident in the area c1840-60 Yvonne
From FreeBMD Marriages Dec 1911 Moles John J Edmonton 3a 1145 WRIGHT Daisy D Edmonton 3a 1145 Marriages Sep 1948 Hill Ethel R Moles Edmonton 5e 1089 Moles John J Hill Edmonton 5e 1089 and from Ancestry Name: Joseph J Moles Death Registration Month/Year: 1956 Age at death (estimated): 72 Registration district: Edmonton Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 5e Page: 279 and possibly Name: Ethel Reada Moles Birth Date: 3 Oct 1892 Death Registration Month/Year: 1979 Registration district: Enfield Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 12 Page: 0313 Anne South Australia Robert Campbell wrote: > I have 2 marriages for a John J (Joseph J?) Moles, first in 1911 to a Miss Wright and later to an Ethel R. > Hill, both of which happened at Edmonton, Middlesex. Is there record somwhere for the death registration of > John J and Ethel R Moles? > > A Joseph John Moles was born at Edmonton in the December quarter of 1883, so this may provide an indication > to his death registration, his record could be in either combination of forenames. > > cheers Bob in Brisbane ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT**
Jon And "wot's" wrong with visiting archives? Sort out a number of items which you wish to research / other visits in the area - to use your time more fruitfully. Not that I'm trying to be too frosty <BG> Richard Brown > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 17:46:36 -0000 > From: "JFHH" <johnfhhgen@uwclub.net> > Subject: Re: [MDX] Looking for WINTER - trails goes cold > > Jon, > I should have added that the LMA has the registers of Tower Hamlets Cemetery (opened 1841) > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=074-cthc&cid=0#0 > But they do not appear to have been added to Ancestry (check with LMA?), nor indexed, which means a > time-consuming visit to the LMA. > Regards > John > ----- Original Message ----- From: <peter@basingstokecircuit.net> >> Jon, There is one death on FreeBMD that is for a Hannah Winter in the right area :=>< SNIP ><=: -- Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K.
I have 2 marriages for a John J (Joseph J?) Moles, first in 1911 to a Miss Wright and later to an Ethel R. Hill, both of which happened at Edmonton, Middlesex. Is there record somwhere for the death registration of John J and Ethel R Moles? A Joseph John Moles was born at Edmonton in the December quarter of 1883, so this may provide an indication to his death registration, his record could be in either combination of forenames. cheers Bob in Brisbane
I think you'll find this Horse Shoe Alley (off Middlesex Street) was not in Shoreditch but in Whitechapel. Another possibility is the Horse Shoe Alley running east off Wilson Street, towards Long Alley, which was in Shoreditch. HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- Horseshoe/Horse Shoe Alley was a turning off of Middlesex Street in Shoreditch, just south of New Goulston Street which still exists. Middlesex Street was also (and is still known) as Petticoat Lane. Paula
> Out of interest, do these addresses mean anything to others - The Curtain, Christopher's Alley, Horseshoe Alley? Rose& Crown Court I can understand. Horseshoe/Horse Shoe Alley was a turning off of Middlesex Street in Shoreditch, just south of New Goulston Street which still exists. Middlesex Street was also (and is still known) as Petticoat Lane. Paula
Graham Many thanks for these references. I will have to see if I can find some information about how old James may have been. This would make him significantly older than his wife Hannah, 9-15 years depending on her actual age which seems to vary. Jan sent me an extract from a newspaper which reported that a James Winter hanged himself while in police custody in Oct 1837. This could fit with the christening date of his youngest daughter in June 1837 - no proof he was alive at the time, but working on the assumption that he may not have been named or been recorded as deceased if not. Following up on this there is a death registered in the Dec 1837 quarter for James Winter in Marylebone. I think it may be worth investing in a copy of the death certificate. I am sort of hoping this isn't my James, but who knows. Out of interest, do these addresses mean anything to others - The Curtain, Christopher's Alley, Horseshoe Alley? Rose & Crown Court I can understand. Thanks to everyone who has helped thus far, I seem to have made rapid progress. I know now that Hannah's father was Henry Hines/Vines or similar. I have traced her in 1851 and as a result satisfied myself that she did marry Joseph Trattell (as she is living next to her daughter/son in law in 1851). I have traced not only her death but also that of Joseph. They are elusive in the 1861 census, but then so are my 2*Gt Grandparents William and Rosetta Baker who were next door neighbours in 51 - evidently there are parts of Bethnal Green missing from 1861. Now I also have a possible lead for James' death and maybe even his baptism. Plenty still to do, but my brick wall seems to have crumbled with the help of many of you on this list. Thanks to you all for your help. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- Hi Jon However, I was wondering if perchance, this was your James Winter? Shoreditch, St. Leonards - baptisms 1785-1801. No page or record numbers. 03 Jul 1791. James s/o Richard & Jane Winter of The Curtain. Born 8 Feb. Also, to the same family: 20 Jun 1793. Jemima d/o Richard & Jane Winter of The Curtain. Born 24 May. 20 Sep 1795. Edward s/o Richard & Jane Winter of Christopher's Alley. Born 1 Jun. The address, which you don't get on the IGI, often helps. 1801-1810: 11 May 1801 Edward James s/o Richard & Jane Winter of Horseshoe Alley. Born 14 Mar. (Assuming that the first Edward died early, and pre-supposing this is the same family?? Always the chance there are two different families.) 23 Jun 1803. Frederick John s/o Richard & Jane Winter of Ross (Rose?) & Crown Court. Born 23 Jan. 20 May 1804. Emma Frances d/o Richard & Jane Winter of Ross & Crown Court. Born 27 Apr. 17 Aug 1806. Mary d/o Richard & Jane Winter of Rose & Crown Court. Born 17 Jul.