Have a family whose name was changed but nothing legal for a name change can I find. Christina SARGENT b.1845....... married 1868 Evan DAVIS b. 1847 They had two children. Christiana Elizabeth DAVIS. b. 1869 Arthur Evan DAVIS b. 1870 Evan DAVIS died 1870 and Christina remarried 1873 Thomas CAMERON b. 1848 They had two children Hannah CAMERON b. 1874 Thomas CAMERON b. 1876 When Thomas married Christina he insisted her two children use the name CAMERON, thought no papers can be found to say they did in fact change their names. When Christiana Elizabeth got married in 1897 to Arthur JENNINGS, she used the name DAVIS. When Arthur Evan DAVIS got married 1922 to Maud Ellen Gertrude ARNARD (nee COOPER) (my great aunt), he used the name CAMERON and all the descendants from then have used the name CAMERON. According to family information, Arthur was a bit of a rogue, he used both names, depending what he was doing, he joined the Navy at a very young age, was champion boxer for the Navy, all of which I can no reference or information about. If any one has this family in their tree and has more information about how you can just use another name, boxing or Navy records, I would love to hear from them. Pam.....NZ

This may explain why I am having so much trouble finding the correct family. Thanks, Ann > > Hello Ann, > Ican tell you that shoreditch haggerston is on one side of the hackney road while bethnal green is on the ther sidethe boarderis in the middle of hackney road in this part of the area it changes in the victoria park area. > many thanks pete a kid from shoreditch > > ________________________________ > From: Ann Pilon <[email protected]> > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2012, 20:21 > Subject: [MDX] James Cole family b. abt 1840 Hornsey > >> > Hello there: > > Here is what I have on James Cole. He was born abt. 1840. He was a looking glass maker and cabinet maker. In 1896 he was living at 312 Brick Lane Spitalfield East. I have found a death registration for James Cole b. abt 1840, date of registration - Apr May Jun 1896 registration district Bethnal Green. I have found James in 1891 on Ancestry. Residence given as Bethnal Green and with Jane and Harriet. I have found him (I think it is him) in 1881 on Ancestry again with Jane and Harriet. Information given for place of birth is Hornsey, Middlesex, Civil parish - St. Leonards Shoreditch, Street address - 29 Canal Road - married - occupation Beer Shop Keeper. There are many James Cole on Ancestry. Not having an idea of the different areas of London I need help in trying to figure out which of the many James' could be the father of Charles. >

Hi Pam Under English common law, a person has the right to call themselves whatever they choose, provided there is no fraudulent intent. Moreover, children taking on their stepfather's name was common practice and convenient as it meant they had the same surname as their mother. It was equally normal for these children to quote their "birth name" (i.e their natural father's name) when marrying. Do you have evidence of Mr CAMERON "insisting" that they use it against their will? Hope this helps Caroline Sent from my iPad On 18 Jul 2012, at 05:30, "LittleMiracles" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > If any one has this family in their tree and has more information about how you can just use another name, boxing or Navy records, I would love to hear from them. > > Pam.....

Hi List I am researching my grandmothers sisters and brothers from West Hartlepool Co Durham In particular CHARLOTTE CLARA SCHRODER nee PAYNE. Charlotte was born in October 1872 in Cromer Norfolk. She married RICHARD WILLIAM LEOPOLD Schroder in 1899 in West Hartlepool. The couple has to my knowledge 3 children RICHARD born 1901, Leopold born 1902 and died September 1908, and LILY born 1904. Lily married THOMAS TOMLINSON from Greatham and had seveal children including Ronald and Alice. In the early 40's late 30's the family moved to Brentford Middlesex and after Charlottes husband died she moved to Brentford (Basildene Rd) where Charlotte died in 1947. Any information on Charlotte would be gratefully appreciated and what happened to her grandchildren Anyone needs any help searching through censii I would willingly oblige Cheers Anne Thompson

From The Bristol Mercury ( Bristol, England ), Saturday, February 9, 1822; Issue 1664.   BANKRUPTS. W. H. PYNE , Nassau-street, Soho, publisher.  Solicitor Mr. Van SANDAN, Nicholas-lane, Lombard-street.   J. HILL , Regent-street, Piccadilly , tailor.  Solicitor Mr. RICE , Jermyn-street.  

Hello there: I am coming to this list in hopes that someone can help. A couple of years ago I was looking for parents of Charles Cole Pilon. I have found them. He was the son of James Cole b. abt. 1840 and Charlotte Jane Pilon (unmarried) b. 1857 who lived together for many years as husband and wife. I have been able to trace the Pilon family back and now am trying to find the Cole family. Here is what I have on James Cole. He was born abt. 1840. He was a looking glass maker and cabinet maker. In 1896 he was living at 312 Brick Lane Spitalfield East. I have found a death registration for James Cole b. abt 1840, date of registration - Apr May Jun 1896 registration district Bethnal Green. I have found James in 1891 on Ancestry. Residence given as Bethnal Green and with Jane and Harriet. I have found him (I think it is him) in 1881 on Ancestry again with Jane and Harriet. Information given for place of birth is Hornsey, Middlesex, Civil parish - St. Leonards Shoreditch, Street address - 29 Canal Road - married - occupation Beer Shop Keeper. There are many James Cole on Ancestry. Not having an idea of the different areas of London I need help in trying to figure out which of the many James' could be the father of Charles. I would really appreciate any help you could give me. Ann

Thanks so much for your generous extra help. Eve. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:08 AM Subject: Re: [MDX] WOOLSEY Charles > > >> Workhouse >> >> Anne >> South Australia >> >> Neil & Jan Hearn wrote: >> > >> > I've discovered a death record on Ancestry.com for Charles WOOLSEY who was buried on 7th December 1849 at Islington, Middlesex at the age of 50 years. I am unable to decipher his address in the entry and wondered if someone might help please. >> > I have had no luck in finding Charles in the 1841 census either . >> > Many thanks, > > Charles was baoptised on 21 June 1801 son of William and Elizabeth > Woolsey of Highgate at St Mary Hornsey Rise. elder brother of Daniel bp > 1803. His age at death is out a bit -often happens, people round up the age > to the nearest multiple of 10. > The parents were William Woolsey who marr Elizabeth Huxley on 29 Nov > 1795 at St Mary Hornsey Rise. Willism was probably buried on 9 October > 1825 aged 53 (so born c 1772) and Elizabeth on 14 Dec 1833 aged 64 same > place. > EVE > Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians > Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

> Workhouse > > Anne > South Australia > > Neil & Jan Hearn wrote: > > > > I've discovered a death record on Ancestry.com for Charles WOOLSEY who was buried on 7th December 1849 at Islington, Middlesex at the age of 50 years. I am unable to decipher his address in the entry and wondered if someone might help please. > > I have had no luck in finding Charles in the 1841 census either . > > Many thanks, Charles was baoptised on 21 June 1801 son of William and Elizabeth Woolsey of Highgate at St Mary Hornsey Rise. elder brother of Daniel bp 1803. His age at death is out a bit -often happens, people round up the age to the nearest multiple of 10. The parents were William Woolsey who marr Elizabeth Huxley on 29 Nov 1795 at St Mary Hornsey Rise. Willism was probably buried on 9 October 1825 aged 53 (so born c 1772) and Elizabeth on 14 Dec 1833 aged 64 same place. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

Thanks so much to David, Eve, J and Anne for your very helpful replies. Eve, My relative, Emma WOOLSEY, also had Charles and Sarah as the witnesses at her wedding in 1831 at St Pancras. This makes it very likely that Emma, Daniel and Charles were siblings......there were more brothers and sisters baptised at St Mary Hornsey to parents, Elizabeth and William, no sign of a baptism for Emma however. Many thanks, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Armstrong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] WOOLSEY Charles > Sadly - it's the "Workhouse". > Cheers > David > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:47 PM > Subject: [MDX] WOOLSEY Charles > > >> >> I've discovered a death record on Ancestry.com for Charles WOOLSEY who was >> buried on 7th December 1849 at Islington, Middlesex at the age of 50 >> years. I am unable to decipher his address in the entry and wondered if >> someone might help please. >> I have had no luck in finding Charles in the 1841 census either . >> Many thanks, >> Jan >> in beautiful Queensland >> ************************************** >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in >> CAPITAL letters** >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2195 / Virus Database: 2437/5128 - Release Date: 07/12/12 >> > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sadly - it's the "Workhouse". Cheers David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:47 PM Subject: [MDX] WOOLSEY Charles > > I've discovered a death record on Ancestry.com for Charles WOOLSEY who was > buried on 7th December 1849 at Islington, Middlesex at the age of 50 > years. I am unable to decipher his address in the entry and wondered if > someone might help please. > I have had no luck in finding Charles in the 1841 census either . > Many thanks, > Jan > in beautiful Queensland > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2195 / Virus Database: 2437/5128 - Release Date: 07/12/12 >

Workhouse Anne South Australia Neil & Jan Hearn wrote: > > I've discovered a death record on Ancestry.com for Charles WOOLSEY who was buried on 7th December 1849 at Islington, Middlesex at the age of 50 years. I am unable to decipher his address in the entry and wondered if someone might help please. > I have had no luck in finding Charles in the 1841 census either . > Many thanks, > Jan > in beautiful Queensland

I've discovered a death record on Ancestry.com for Charles WOOLSEY who was buried on 7th December 1849 at Islington, Middlesex at the age of 50 years. I am unable to decipher his address in the entry and wondered if someone might help please. I have had no luck in finding Charles in the 1841 census either . Many thanks, Jan in beautiful Queensland

> > I have had no luck in finding Charles in the 1841 census either . Nor have I - but Daniel Woolsey is there, and Charles and Sarah witnessed his wedding in 1834. (rather lovely writing) Daniel was born in Highgate in c 1806, and this may be worth pursuing to find Charles too. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

I've discovered a death record on Ancestry.com for Charles WOOLSEY who was buried on 7th December 1849 at Islington, Middlesex at the age of 50 years. I am unable to decipher his address in the entry and wondered if someone might help please. He was buried from the Workhouse. There was also a 'male stillborn' buried in 1822 so it looks as if he was around in that area. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

Workhouse J On 14 July 2012 08:47, Neil & Jan Hearn <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've discovered a death record on Ancestry.com for Charles WOOLSEY who was buried on 7th December 1849 at Islington, Middlesex at the age of 50 years. I am unable to decipher his address in the entry and wondered if someone might help please. > I have had no luck in finding Charles in the 1841 census either . > Many thanks, > Jan > in beautiful Queensland > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John wrote: > Hi Pat, > > It must be sods law! Although no longer living near by, I was at a friends > funeral there a couple of days ago. > > I am in the area about every 6 to 8 weeks so may be able to oblige then. It > would help if you could obtain some sort of location plan for me as it's > quite vast. I used to live near there too but no longer. My father's buried there. IIRC, there's a lodge at the gates. If that's correct and they have the layout available, Pat may be able to contact them. Otherwise it'd be the cemetery supervisor or the local authority's parks and leisure department. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Canterbury Archives have this record of a marriage between James Wright INGATE , of Saint Dunstan, Stepney, in the County of Middlesex, a Bachelor, and Margaret Ann BROWNE of Margate, Kent, Spinster, at St. John's Church, Margate, on 5th November 1830.  The marriage was by Banns, Officiating Minister Francis BARROW.  Both signed their names.  Witnesses were Nicholas Edward Wileman BROWNE and Louisa BRADSHAW. Hope this is helpful to a researcher.

Hi Pat, It must be sods law! Although no longer living near by, I was at a friends funeral there a couple of days ago. I am in the area about every 6 to 8 weeks so may be able to oblige then. It would help if you could obtain some sort of location plan for me as it's quite vast. Regards, John. Herts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat bernie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:54 PM Subject: [MDX] Grave photo at New Southgate Cem please? Dear Listers, Is there some kind soul who would be able to take a photograph of a grave stone (if there is one) at New Southgate cemetery (Brunswick Park Road) please? Details Ivy Elizabeth BULLEY or Elizabeth Ivy BULLEY is buried in section am plot 807 of New Southgate Cemetery. This cemetery used to be called the Great Northern London Cemetery. Great Aunt Ivy Elizabeth (Elizabeth Ivy) was only 5 1/2 years old when she died. Her parents had to move away from the area about a year later, consequently the information was lost. I have been searching for the information about her whereabouts for some years only to find out today that a family member had the details all along!!! !!!!! We don't know whether a stone was erected on her grave, but if anyone is able to locate it and take a photo I would be extremely grateful. Many thanks to anyone who might be able to help. Thankyou Pat Bulley ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters** List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5125 - Release Date: 07/11/12

Dear Listers, Is there some kind soul who would be able to take a photograph of a grave stone (if there is one) at New Southgate cemetery (Brunswick Park Road) please?   Details Ivy Elizabeth BULLEY or Elizabeth Ivy BULLEY is buried in section am plot 807 of New Southgate Cemetery. This cemetery used to be called the Great Northern London Cemetery.   Great Aunt Ivy Elizabeth (Elizabeth Ivy) was only 5 1/2 years old when she died.  Her parents had to move away from the area about a year later, consequently the information was lost.   I have been searching for the information about her whereabouts for some years only to find out today that a family member had the details all along!!!  !!!!! We don't know whether a stone was erected on her grave, but if anyone is able to locate it and take a photo I would be extremely grateful. Many thanks to anyone who might be able to help.   Thankyou Pat Bulley

>From The Times ( London, England ),Wednesday, Feb 17,1858; Issue 22919.   DEATH. On the 25th Dec., at Sylhet, in the Bengal Presidency, in consequence of a fall from his horse, William SPOONER , Esq., of H.M.'s 54th Regiment, second son of John SPOONER , Esq., of Queen's-road west, Regent's-park.