I have the marriage cert of above when he married Amy Lovell 19 May 1878 Harmondsworth, he was  a Widower age 48, Gardener ,Father name Charles a Farmer. I have found them on the 1901 Census with various children. Not there eldest son Albert Henry b 1879 Have cert. I have also found a marriage for a Charles John Davis to Elizabeth Millest 10 Sep 1899. Father Charles Gardener. Now I am assuming (and I know I shouldn't) that he is the son of my Charles by first marriage but I can't find a birth for him (Sorry He was 25 on Marriage cert) I have so far bought 3 birth certs but none of them are correct. On 11901 Census Elizabeth and son Charles (What else!) are living with Charles and Amy. Elizabeth is a Soldiers wife. On 1911 Census Charles John is back with Elizabeth and son. He say born in Aylesbury Buckinghamshire but I can't find it! Nor can I make any head way with Charles John born c1830. So if anyone would help me I will be very grateful. The Charles John Davis Married to Julia West is not the same person. Jeanne

If it happened at all there is unlikely to be any record of it Official adoption only started in 1927 In most cases the family sorted it out themselves and carried on without the formalities Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/08/2012 01:31, COLEEN COLEMAN wrote: > Need to know where I might find out if one Bridget Hyland may have > gotten guardianship of two children of John and Mary Hyland, one being > John born 1855 and Margaret born 1859. Thanks so much for your help with > this family.

Need to know where I might find out if one Bridget Hyland may have gotten guardianship of two children of John and Mary Hyland, one being John born 1855 and Margaret born 1859. Thanks so much for your help with this family.

Hello,My mysterious gt gt Grandfather Henry William DUNWOODY was baptised in Little Marlow in 1812, the son of John, (transcribed as William, but I have seen the original and it's Jno), and Sarah. He then disappears from view to reappear in the North West in 1851. On the censuses, he lists his birthplace as Hedsor, then Marlow and then Sunbury in Middlesex. This coupled with his stating his father's occupation as Master Mariner makes me wonder if his father was a bargeman. Dunwoody is a very unusual surname in the South of England and I have found a family in Wooburn, (very close to both Marlow and Hedsor) who may be related, but I cannot find a definate link to my Henry.On the 1841 census in Henley is a family of WOODEYS who have the middle name Dunn, (Henry Dunn WOODEY shows up repeatedly). The father Thomas is a bargeman. It may be coincidence, but leads are so thin with this ancestor that I would like to ask the board if they have info on bargemen in the South of England or Woodeys, Dunwoodys and all its variants.RegardsDiane

just a thought. Hérault is a county in France and differs from your name by an accent aigue on the e and a l before the d but does not differ that much in pronunciation. Along the Mediterranean, capital Montpellier. Sous prefecture: Grandes liaisons. Imagine an arrival speaking no English and they want to know his name Good luck! ---- Original Message ----- From: "Annemarie Heraud" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 6:42 AM Subject: [MDX] Heraud > Reposting my interest in the name Heraud. > I am interested in any information about this name as most people are > connected. > Annemarie Heraud > Darwin, NT, > Australia > > Sent from my iPad > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 2437/5126 - Release Date: 07/11/12 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. >

Hello Coleen You wrote, "They were married in England was said in a written history they were married in another area due to the fact he was Irish Catholic and said she was Protestant, they married and came to the USA to avoid Parental displeasure." You say that according to their marriage certificate John & Mary were both aged 20 and the marriage took place in a Catholic church (you don't say which one). The age of majority at that time was 21yrs, so they both required the consent of parents. This throws into question the idea of parental displeasure at the marriage. The parents just had to withhold their consent. So the witnesses, John DWYER and Catherine HYLAND, may well have been the father of Mary and mother of John but one cannot say so for certain. However, I don't doubt the parents gave their consent and were probably present at the marriage. I think that the Banns book, if one exists, might help with this. The fact that they were married in a Catholic church makes the statement that she was a protestant also unlikely, in my view. This view is strengthened by DWYER being an Irish name. Regards, John

Stella, Caroline has answered your question re filling out the census form. All I would add is that the completed census form was meant to show who spent census night in a given place, who passed midnight on census night to be more precise if we were splitting hairs. On board a British Registered ship, whether at sea, in a foreign port or in a British port the master of the ship had the duty of filling out the schedule for his vessel for census night with details of his crew and any passengers on board. He also gave the ship's compass position at midnight on census night, her tonnage, her trade, her official registration number and her home port. He would also state where and when he had been handed that schedule for his vessel before setting off on the voyage that would take him and his crew etc., away over census night. All of these detail appear on the first page of the schedule, which first page you can also view on the Ancestry site as well as the list of the crew, but only in those censuses where ships have been included in the online images. Foreign registered ships that spent census night in a British port, I believe, were also included in the census because they were deemed to be on British soil, being in British waters. I thought I would mention this in case someone with mariner ancestors has lost them in one or other of the census, they might be at sea. Put the word Vessels in the Civil parish box instead of a place of abode and leave out the county of abode and you might turn your ancestor up. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<In that time frame - Did citizens - fill in the census form themselves ? Or - did an Enumerator come door to door - and request the information - filling in the details in his own hand.? Some may not always - enter complete or absolutely accurate information. as well - the informant/family - may not always give the correct info>> At 02:48 PM 07/08/2012, you wrote: >This "could" put Bridget Hyland the widow in this marriage as the "sister >in >Law" rather than sister of John Hyland in the 1861 census. This would mean >that John had a brother that married Bridget Maloy prior to the 1861 >census. >If Bridget Hyland was aged 40 at this 1877 marriage then that would make >her >about 23/24 year of age in the 1861 census approximately the same age as >Bridget Hyland shown as sister in the household of John Hyland. > >Maybe she is meant to be shown as sister in law in the 1861 census but the >in law part got missed out. If John Hyland could not write, as shown in his >marriage certificate that Coleen has, then maybe someone else filled out >the >household schedule for him and thought that Bridget was his sister not his >sister in law. > >This is just an idea that she could be John's sister in law rather than his >sister and would need some work to prove one way or another. > >Regards >Jenny DeAngelis. > > ><<>From Ancestry: London England, Marriages and Banns 1754 - 1921 > >Bridget HYLAND aged 40yrs Widow married Edward STRETTON aged 55yrs Widower >at St.Jude Church, Chelsea on March 26th 1877 Bride and Groom both made >their mark 'X' >Bridgets father : Bartholomew MALOY (deceased) occupation: Labourer >Address of bride: 1 Little College Street, Chelsea >The HYLAND's, including Bridget, were living at 6 Little College Street, >Chelsea in the 1861 census.>> > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "COLEEN COLEMAN" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:20 PM >Subject: [MDX] Marriages for Bridget Hyland > > > > How do I locate the right marriage record for the lady named Bridget > > Hyland age 23 in 1861 Middlesex with John, Mary and their (2) two > > children w/would like ordering all (7) seven certificates? > > I would like to find one with her parents possibly being listed as > > Thomas and Catherine. > > DATES: > > Dec 1861 Vol.8d pg.847 > > June 1864 vol.6b pg.927 > > Sept 1864 6d pg.396 > > June 1866 Vol.8e pg.84 > > Dec 1866 Vol.8c pg.243 > > Dec 1867 vol.8b pg.410 > > Mar 1869 vol.6c pg.228 > > If someone could get me a quick check on these records and let me > > know which one I need to order for my records as I am almost positive > > this is my family. > > John and Mary came to the US after 1861 (Hence not found in 1860 IL USA > > Census) where they were at when oldest daughter Margaret born 1862, > > followed by Elizabeth in 1863. > > Thanks so much for your help with this family. Coleen in WY USA > > ************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > > CAPITAL letters** > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >************************************** >Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >superfluous old messages in replies. > >**MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in >CAPITAL letters** > >List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

An unmarried woman might still be called a spinster today though we tend to use the words Unmarried or single woman now the word spinster would still appear, I believe, in a marriage register today. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<says age 20 for both. Says he was a labourer and she was a spinster. I guess anyone over age 18 and unmarried was a spinster? Is this true? Hmmm funny customs they had back then.>>

Hi Stella The English census was (and is) taken via a paper form (schedule) delivered to each household in advance of census day. The head of the household was required to fill in the form prior to its collection by the enumerator who then copied the information from the form into his summary book for onward transmission to the Registrar General. It is always worth reminding ourselves of this fact before we set too much store in the information we see in those enumerators' books. Our ancestors' handwriting must have often been a real challenge for the hard-pressed and underpaid enumerators. Although they could (and should) have attempted to clarify uncertain entries and "helped" where the form was incomplete, census information can be very unreliable, particularly for families such as this where the head was illiterate. Caroline > > > Hi Jenny - re the Census - what you say makes sense Just a thought In > that time frame - Did citizens - fill in the census form themselves ? > Or - did an Enumerator come door to door - and request the information > - filling in the details in his own hand.? > Some may not always - enter complete or absolutely accurate > information. as well - the informant/family - may not always give the > correct info cheers, Stella >

This "could" put Bridget Hyland the widow in this marriage as the "sister in Law" rather than sister of John Hyland in the 1861 census. This would mean that John had a brother that married Bridget Maloy prior to the 1861 census. If Bridget Hyland was aged 40 at this 1877 marriage then that would make her about 23/24 year of age in the 1861 census approximately the same age as Bridget Hyland shown as sister in the household of John Hyland. Maybe she is meant to be shown as sister in law in the 1861 census but the in law part got missed out. If John Hyland could not write, as shown in his marriage certificate that Coleen has, then maybe someone else filled out the household schedule for him and thought that Bridget was his sister not his sister in law. This is just an idea that she could be John's sister in law rather than his sister and would need some work to prove one way or another. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. <<>From Ancestry: London England, Marriages and Banns 1754 - 1921 Bridget HYLAND aged 40yrs Widow married Edward STRETTON aged 55yrs Widower at St.Jude Church, Chelsea on March 26th 1877 Bride and Groom both made their mark 'X' Bridgets father : Bartholomew MALOY (deceased) occupation: Labourer Address of bride: 1 Little College Street, Chelsea The HYLAND's, including Bridget, were living at 6 Little College Street, Chelsea in the 1861 census.>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "COLEEN COLEMAN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:20 PM Subject: [MDX] Marriages for Bridget Hyland > How do I locate the right marriage record for the lady named Bridget > Hyland age 23 in 1861 Middlesex with John, Mary and their (2) two > children w/would like ordering all (7) seven certificates? > I would like to find one with her parents possibly being listed as > Thomas and Catherine. > DATES: > Dec 1861 Vol.8d pg.847 > June 1864 vol.6b pg.927 > Sept 1864 6d pg.396 > June 1866 Vol.8e pg.84 > Dec 1866 Vol.8c pg.243 > Dec 1867 vol.8b pg.410 > Mar 1869 vol.6c pg.228 > If someone could get me a quick check on these records and let me > know which one I need to order for my records as I am almost positive > this is my family. > John and Mary came to the US after 1861 (Hence not found in 1860 IL USA > Census) where they were at when oldest daughter Margaret born 1862, > followed by Elizabeth in 1863. > Thanks so much for your help with this family. Coleen in WY USA > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Coleen You are reading a small part of the marriage entry incorrectly. Where you have written in your message below the following:- <<The ward of X John Hyland and the ward of X Mary Dwyer>> what you are reading as the word "ward" I believe should read as Mark. I think is should read. The mark of X John Hyland and the marm of M Mary Dwyer. The mark of each of them is the X each of them made against their names, written by someone else, because they could not sign their names. Does the marriage certificate give ages for John & Mary or does it say in the place of an age "Of full age"? Of full age would mean they were over 21 years of age. Why do you assume that the witness Catherine Hyland was John's mother? it could have been a sister of his or a cousin by the same surname, or a sister in law, or an aunt. It doesn't have to be his mother. The same goes for the witness John Dwyer, he doesn't necessarily have to be the father of Mary he could have been her brother with the same name a her father. Another reason for perhaps thinking that Catherine Hyland the witness was not John's mother is this:- You say that the Hyland family disapproved of John's marrying out of the catholic religion, why then would his mother be a witness to his marriage to a non Catholic? Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<1853 Marriage solemnized by ____________________________in the District of Stepney in the County of Middlesex 8th May 1853 John Hyland and Mary Dwyer Father's name and surname Thomas Hyland, laborer, John Dwyer, coke dealer. Married in the __________________________________according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Catholic Church. by me________________________________________ in the presence of JOhn Dwyer and Catherine Hyland. This marriage was solemnized between us, APPLICATION NUMBER R456421 given at the General Register Office>>

Coleen, April has sent you details of the marriage in 1877; here are the details for the 1876 marriage of Bridget Hyland (as per the reference you gave below) 30 October 1876 at St Jude's church, parish of Upper Chelsea, County of Middlesex, married by banns John FITZPATRICK age 47 widower, labourer, of 13 Little College Street, father Andrew Fitzpatrick (deceased) soldier Bridget HYLAND age 21, spinster, 1 Little College Street, father Patrick Hyland (deceased) labourer both bride and groom signed with their mark. Witnesses were James Henessey and Mary Dutton (who signed with her mark) So not NOT the Bridget listed with John Hyland in the 1861 census and aged 23, but another Hyland in Little College Street. So you could cross this Bridget off your list. Alison :-) Sydney Oz -------------------------- On 7.08.2012 1:42 AM, COLEEN COLEMAN wrote: > free bmd.org.uk/ > Bridget Hyland > 1876 Chelsea Middlesex County Vol 1a pg.474 > 1877 Chelsea Middlesex County vol 1a pg.377 > > wonder if one of these could be her or if she married twice within a few > mos. say if for example her husband died and she re-married. Hmm need to > check out these two marriages as > well to see if her parents were Thomas and Catherine Hyland > >

> My Bridget was a Hyland by Birth single age 23 living in England 1861 > census with brother John, wife Mary and 2 children. So we can see that > she was not married to a HYLAND instead That is, if the information in the census was correct, which is not invariable. The existence of the marriage from the same address is at least interesting, showing potential kin at the same address. . It is never safe to assume that everything is the way it seems to be - you must allow for the usual variables, rather than taking one piece of information, setting it in stone and then arguing from it. Your first assertion that Bridget and Malchi Hyland were uncle and aunt of the children has never ebbn backed by evidence but has given a lot of peo-ple a lot of work to try to make sense of it. A lot of more experienced people have offered you help here - please take what has been found on board rather than digging your heels in and rejecting the work other people have done on your behalf. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

says age 20 for both. Says he was a labourer and she was a spinster. I guess anyone over age 18 and unmarried was a spinster? Is this true? Hmmm funny customs they had back then.

Free BMD has Marriages Jun 1852 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Chown Charles Westminster 1a 486 Hill Eliza Westminster 1a 486 Hyland Patrick Westminster 1a 486 Mullory Bridget Westminster 1a 486 Which suggests that Patrick Hyland was the brother of John. Also if Bridget was the sister then you would expect to find one of the children of John and Mary named after her. Marilyn http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Jenny De Angelis > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 2:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MDX] Marriages for Bridget Hyland > > > This "could" put Bridget Hyland the widow in this marriage as > the "sister in > Law" rather than sister of John Hyland in the 1861 census. > This would mean > that John had a brother that married Bridget Maloy prior to > the 1861 census. > If Bridget Hyland was aged 40 at this 1877 marriage then that > would make her > about 23/24 year of age in the 1861 census approximately the > same age as > Bridget Hyland shown as sister in the household of John Hyland. > > Maybe she is meant to be shown as sister in law in the 1861 > census but the > in law part got missed out. If John Hyland could not write, > as shown in his > marriage certificate that Coleen has, then maybe someone else > filled out the > household schedule for him and thought that Bridget was his > sister not his > sister in law. > > This is just an idea that she could be John's sister in law > rather than his > sister and would need some work to prove one way or another. > > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis. > > > <<>From Ancestry: London England, Marriages and Banns 1754 - 1921 > > Bridget HYLAND aged 40yrs Widow married Edward STRETTON aged > 55yrs Widower at St.Jude Church, Chelsea on March 26th 1877 > Bride and Groom both made their mark 'X' Bridgets father : > Bartholomew MALOY (deceased) occupation: Labourer Address of > bride: 1 Little College Street, Chelsea The HYLAND's, > including Bridget, were living at 6 Little College Street, > Chelsea in the 1861 census.>> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "COLEEN COLEMAN" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:20 PM > Subject: [MDX] Marriages for Bridget Hyland > > > > How do I locate the right marriage record for the lady > named Bridget > > Hyland age 23 in 1861 Middlesex with John, Mary and their (2) two > > children w/would like ordering all (7) seven certificates? > > I would like to find one with her parents possibly being > listed as > > Thomas and Catherine. > > DATES: > > Dec 1861 Vol.8d pg.847 > > June 1864 vol.6b pg.927 > > Sept 1864 6d pg.396 > > June 1866 Vol.8e pg.84 > > Dec 1866 Vol.8c pg.243 > > Dec 1867 vol.8b pg.410 > > Mar 1869 vol.6c pg.228 > > If someone could get me a quick check on these records and let me > > know which one I need to order for my records as I am > almost positive > > this is my family. John and Mary came to the US after 1861 > (Hence not > > found in 1860 IL USA > > Census) where they were at when oldest daughter Margaret born 1862, > > followed by Elizabeth in 1863. Thanks so much for your > help with this > > family. Coleen in WY USA > > ************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always > **TRIM AWAY** > > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with > SURNAMES in > > CAPITAL letters** > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always > **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with > SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2196 / Virus Database: 2425/5183 - Release > Date: 08/07/12 >

Hi Jenny - re the Census - what you say makes sense Just a thought In that time frame - Did citizens - fill in the census form themselves ? Or - did an Enumerator come door to door - and request the information - filling in the details in his own hand.? Some may not always - enter complete or absolutely accurate information. as well - the informant/family - may not always give the correct info cheers, Stella At 02:48 PM 07/08/2012, you wrote: >This "could" put Bridget Hyland the widow in this marriage as the "sister in >Law" rather than sister of John Hyland in the 1861 census. This would mean >that John had a brother that married Bridget Maloy prior to the 1861 census. >If Bridget Hyland was aged 40 at this 1877 marriage then that would make her >about 23/24 year of age in the 1861 census approximately the same age as >Bridget Hyland shown as sister in the household of John Hyland. > >Maybe she is meant to be shown as sister in law in the 1861 census but the >in law part got missed out. If John Hyland could not write, as shown in his >marriage certificate that Coleen has, then maybe someone else filled out the >household schedule for him and thought that Bridget was his sister not his >sister in law. > >This is just an idea that she could be John's sister in law rather than his >sister and would need some work to prove one way or another. > >Regards >Jenny DeAngelis. > > ><<>From Ancestry: London England, Marriages and Banns 1754 - 1921 > >Bridget HYLAND aged 40yrs Widow married Edward STRETTON aged 55yrs Widower >at St.Jude Church, Chelsea on March 26th 1877 Bride and Groom both made >their mark 'X' >Bridgets father : Bartholomew MALOY (deceased) occupation: Labourer >Address of bride: 1 Little College Street, Chelsea >The HYLAND's, including Bridget, were living at 6 Little College Street, >Chelsea in the 1861 census.>> > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "COLEEN COLEMAN" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:20 PM >Subject: [MDX] Marriages for Bridget Hyland > > > > How do I locate the right marriage record for the lady named Bridget > > Hyland age 23 in 1861 Middlesex with John, Mary and their (2) two > > children w/would like ordering all (7) seven certificates? > > I would like to find one with her parents possibly being listed as > > Thomas and Catherine. > > DATES: > > Dec 1861 Vol.8d pg.847 > > June 1864 vol.6b pg.927 > > Sept 1864 6d pg.396 > > June 1866 Vol.8e pg.84 > > Dec 1866 Vol.8c pg.243 > > Dec 1867 vol.8b pg.410 > > Mar 1869 vol.6c pg.228 > > If someone could get me a quick check on these records and let me > > know which one I need to order for my records as I am almost positive > > this is my family. > > John and Mary came to the US after 1861 (Hence not found in 1860 IL USA > > Census) where they were at when oldest daughter Margaret born 1862, > > followed by Elizabeth in 1863. > > Thanks so much for your help with this family. Coleen in WY USA > > ************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > > CAPITAL letters** > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >************************************** >Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM >AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > >**MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES >in CAPITAL letters** > >List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Bridget was a Hyland by Birth single age 23 living in England 1861 census with brother John, wife Mary and 2 children. So we can see that she was not married to a HYLAND instead was a Hyland by birth. Coleen in WY USA send that rain here. Dry, windy lots of forest fires, brush fires and wild land fires.

Hi, adding my two penny worth to this and throwing in a curve ball, hope you don't mind :) >From Ancestry: London England, Marriages and Banns 1754 - 1921 Bridget HYLAND aged 40yrs Widow married Edward STRETTON aged 55yrs Widower at St.Jude Church, Chelsea on March 26th 1877 Bride and Groom both made their mark 'X' Bridgets father : Bartholomew MALOY (deceased) occupation: Labourer Address of bride: 1 Little College Street, Chelsea The HYLAND's, including Bridget, were living at 6 Little College Street, Chelsea in the 1861 census. Coincidence ?? April in very wet Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "COLEEN COLEMAN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:20 PM Subject: [MDX] Marriages for Bridget Hyland > How do I locate the right marriage record for the lady named Bridget > Hyland age 23 in 1861 Middlesex with John, Mary and their (2) two > children w/would like ordering all (7) seven certificates? > I would like to find one with her parents possibly being listed as > Thomas and Catherine. > DATES: > Dec 1861 Vol.8d pg.847 > June 1864 vol.6b pg.927 > Sept 1864 6d pg.396 > June 1866 Vol.8e pg.84 > Dec 1866 Vol.8c pg.243 > Dec 1867 vol.8b pg.410 > Mar 1869 vol.6c pg.228 > If someone could get me a quick check on these records and let me > know which one I need to order for my records as I am almost positive > this is my family. > John and Mary came to the US after 1861 (Hence not found in 1860 IL USA > Census) where they were at when oldest daughter Margaret born 1862, > followed by Elizabeth in 1863. > Thanks so much for your help with this family. Coleen in WY USA > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is anyone researching the WAKLELIN family who worked as silversmiths and goldsmiths in Panton St.?  Am trying to find fellow researchers

They were married in England was said in a written history they were married in another area due to the fact he was Irish Catholic and said she was Protestant, they married and came to the USA to avoid Parental displeasure.