Hi Jan Am sending the scan off list. Lawrence > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:46:04 +1000 > Subject: [MDX] Mary Ann SPENCER > > I have found my ancestor, Mary Ann SPENCER, born in Birmingham in 1825 in census records for 1851, 1861, 1871 and 1881 while she lived in Middlesex. I believe she may have returned to Birmingham in the subsequent years of her life. > I have seen a census record for 1841 when she was living in Great Barr St, Birmingham and was a servant at the Knigs Arms. I cannot find this record again as I did not take down the details except that the head of household was John SMITH, a licensed victualler, and his wife was Mary. Mary A was recorded as being 10 years old. > I would appreciate it very much if someone could help me find this record again or guide me in a search using the street address please. > Many thanks, > Jan > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am wondering if anyone might be connected to the RUDD family in Finchley, Middlesex, England? My RUDD family members were: Letitia RUDD (Feb 1752 - 12 May 1822) who married Robert DODD in 1774 at St Mary, Finchley, MIddlesex, England. (My great great great great grandparents.) Letitia's father was John RUDD who married Letitia HARWOOD in 1741 at St Mary Finchley MIddlesex, England. (My great great great great great grandparents.) Regards Elizabeth ------------------------------------ [email protected]

Many thanks to Nivard & Andy for their help with my Leonard Abrehart. A friend has suggested that he may have dropped the Abrehart because he thought it sounded too German in 1914. Regards Sheila NSW

On 15/08/2012 10:37 AM, PETER WELLS wrote: > a good second bet maybe where geoge cornhill and freddie mills were both cremated honor oak park just outside lewisham > thanks pete Sadly for the original lister her aunt' cremation was 1930 and Honor Oak did notopen until 1939. A large number of London Cerematoria opened in the 1930s: before that there seem to have been the four I mentioned earlier, +Woking at Brookwood. Kind regards, John Henley. > > > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2012, 15:35 > Subject: Re: [MDX] CREMATIONS IN 1930 > > I am now looking for details of her mother´s, my aunt, cremation. >>> My aunt died 13/04/1930 in Datchet and the funeral service was at a church in Wimbledon. > > I would guess that Brookwood crematorium was a strong possibiloity, since > there was a rail connection much used by people living (dying!) in south > London, easy of access from Wimbledon. > EVE > > > Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians > Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society > >

> > > Many thanks to Nivard & Andy for their help with my Leonard Abrehart. A > friend has suggested that he may have dropped the Abrehart because he > thought it sounded too German in 1914. I have a folk memory of an Abrehart in Edmonton or Tottenham in the early 1800s - and a vague notion of some - or a similar name - in Hereford, very early, causing trouble.. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

a good second bet maybe where geoge cornhill and freddie mills were both cremated honor oak park just outside lewisham thanks pete  ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2012, 15:35 Subject: Re: [MDX] CREMATIONS IN 1930   I am now looking for details of her mother´s, my aunt, cremation. > > My aunt died 13/04/1930 in Datchet  and the funeral service was at a church in Wimbledon. I would guess that Brookwood crematorium was a strong possibiloity, since there was a rail connection  much used by people living (dying!) in south London, easy of access from Wimbledon. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters** List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am now looking for details of her motherŽs, my aunt, cremation. > > My aunt died 13/04/1930 in Datchet and the funeral service was at a church in Wimbledon. I would guess that Brookwood crematorium was a strong possibiloity, since there was a rail connection much used by people living (dying!) in south London, easy of access from Wimbledon. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

On 14/08/2012 11:30 AM, Jenny wrote: > I have recently made contact with my cousin in Canada, she has just celebrated her 96th birthday. I am now looking for details of her mother’s, my aunt, cremation. > My aunt died 13/04/1930 in Datchet and the funeral service was at a church in Wimbledon. I thought the cremation may have been at Putney but cremations there did not start until 1938. > My cousin would like to know if her ashes were taken to Canada or if they were lest at the crematorium. > Can anyone tell me where the cremation would have taken place, would there have been a service at the crematorium and would there be any records. > Many thanks > Jenny > ************************************** The SoG booklet "Guide to Greater London Cemeteries and Crematoria" by Wolfson, revised by Cliff Webb gives very few ematoria near to Wimbledon open by 1930. Therefore a journey was likely. Golders Green had opened in 1903 West Norwood (nearer) 1915 Further afield were Hendon (1922) and Woking Crematorium, near Brookwood. (1878) With the limited choice, do not be put of by distances. I would start with West Norwood, the Woking or Golders Green, thenHendon. Kind regards, John Henley

I have recently made contact with my cousin in Canada, she has just celebrated her 96th birthday. I am now looking for details of her mother’s, my aunt, cremation. My aunt died 13/04/1930 in Datchet and the funeral service was at a church in Wimbledon. I thought the cremation may have been at Putney but cremations there did not start until 1938. My cousin would like to know if her ashes were taken to Canada or if they were lest at the crematorium. Can anyone tell me where the cremation would have taken place, would there have been a service at the crematorium and would there be any records. Many thanks Jenny

Thanks again for this info. My Henry William Dunwoody appeared in Liverpool in the 1851 census with his Irish wife, Catherine Topham. From his baptism in little Marlow in 1812 to this census, I have no record of him, but I suspect that he may have been in the army. I need to go to Kew to search the army records. Maybe I will find something about him there.There are a cluster of Dunwoody births, marriages and deaths in Wooburn from c1750 - 1805 but then they die out, (or leave). I have 2 Thomas Dunwoody's born 1747 and 1778, so the Thomas Dunn Woodey in Henley c 1800 obviously interests me.I reallt need to go and see the quarter sessions. They sound like entertaining reading!RegardsDiane > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:39:48 +0100 > Subject: Re: [MDX] dunwoody or Dunn Woodey, bargemen > > > > > A Bargee usually worked the canals on their barges on which they and their > > families lived transporting goods from one part of the country to another. > > This is true for most of the later barge/narrow boat men. However, certainly > pre 1800, in the Marlow area, when barge transport was the norm for bulky, > fragile, heavy goods, the bargemen travlled alone. From Marlow, Wooburn > and district, they were frequently delivering paper from the mills, on which a > tax was paid, and this was rec laimed when the barge sank or sopmehow the > paper fell overboard. This is something which occurs often enou8gh in > Quarter sessions records. > The bargemen had quite a reputation for in itiating or joining happily in > punch ups in the local pubs, when home, and - again from Quarter sessions > - their wives can be shown tyo have stayed home, since they continued the > started battles or initiated their own pub ri9ots, when their husbands were > away. > I think someone has mentioned that a Thomas Dunwoody was a bargeman > in Wooburn (just down river from Marlow) in 1798, and a John Dunwoodey > was a labourer there also. I will check the Wooburn registers shortly. > Although the name is a variant of Dinwiddie, which is Scottish, we did > acquire a small groupd of Scots in the 1690s, when the Scots Guards > disbanded in Bucks and some of them chose not to walk all the way home. > An alternative way may have been through the barges, as an emigrant scot > man have taken a job on one in London (full of 'Scotchmen' who had taken > the road which led them to England, like their compatriot, James Boswell..) > > >taking mostly, Rubbish out of London to be dealt with somewhere else, > > > There was a profitable trade on the Grand Junction canal of shipping > 'nightsoil' collected in London for use as fertiliser on farm fields. > I was told an unsuitable joke about an actor, down on his luck, travelling by > one of those barges, who accepted the smell, but (when the bargeowner > declared his cargo as 'three tons of (ordure) and an actor) objected to his > position on the billing. > EVE > > Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians > Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Any lister knowledgeable of actor Will Hay and family. Had a daughter Joan A., B. Salford 1917. Only one in BMDS, 1915-20. Did she marry Wandsworth Mar qtr., 1938, George Clarke Junior, son of George Clarke, entertainer and variety star? There was a Virginia Clarke, mother Hay, b.Dec. qtr, Wandsworth 1938?? Any advice appreciated. (yes, I know i could buy the certificate.)

Hello Les, Not Mar Qtr 1938 but Dec Qtr 1937 Marriages Dec 1937 Clarke, George J J H, Hay, Wandsworth, 1d, 1145. Hay, Joan A, Clarke, Wandsworth, 1d, 1145. Will Hay junior lived in Ramsgate, Kent, and was a regular in a pub owned by my brother-in-law's brother. I met him in 1991 at a birthday party (80th) given for my brother-in-law's father. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Hewett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 4:45 AM Subject: [MDX] WILL HAY FAMILY ?? | Any lister knowledgeable of actor Will Hay and family. Had a daughter Joan | A., B. Salford 1917. Only one in BMDS, 1915-20. Did she marry Wandsworth Mar | qtr., 1938, George Clarke Junior, son of George Clarke, entertainer and | variety star? There was a Virginia Clarke, mother Hay, b.Dec. qtr, | Wandsworth 1938?? Any advice appreciated. (yes, I know i could buy the | certificate.) | ************************************** | Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. | | **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters** | | List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

> > A Bargee usually worked the canals on their barges on which they and their > families lived transporting goods from one part of the country to another. This is true for most of the later barge/narrow boat men. However, certainly pre 1800, in the Marlow area, when barge transport was the norm for bulky, fragile, heavy goods, the bargemen travlled alone. From Marlow, Wooburn and district, they were frequently delivering paper from the mills, on which a tax was paid, and this was rec laimed when the barge sank or sopmehow the paper fell overboard. This is something which occurs often enou8gh in Quarter sessions records. The bargemen had quite a reputation for in itiating or joining happily in punch ups in the local pubs, when home, and - again from Quarter sessions - their wives can be shown tyo have stayed home, since they continued the started battles or initiated their own pub ri9ots, when their husbands were away. I think someone has mentioned that a Thomas Dunwoody was a bargeman in Wooburn (just down river from Marlow) in 1798, and a John Dunwoodey was a labourer there also. I will check the Wooburn registers shortly. Although the name is a variant of Dinwiddie, which is Scottish, we did acquire a small groupd of Scots in the 1690s, when the Scots Guards disbanded in Bucks and some of them chose not to walk all the way home. An alternative way may have been through the barges, as an emigrant scot man have taken a job on one in London (full of 'Scotchmen' who had taken the road which led them to England, like their compatriot, James Boswell..) >taking mostly, Rubbish out of London to be dealt with somewhere else, There was a profitable trade on the Grand Junction canal of shipping 'nightsoil' collected in London for use as fertiliser on farm fields. I was told an unsuitable joke about an actor, down on his luck, travelling by one of those barges, who accepted the smell, but (when the bargeowner declared his cargo as 'three tons of (ordure) and an actor) objected to his position on the billing. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

Hello, I am new to the list and am researching the aircrew of No. 405 (R.C.A.F.) Squadron of WW2. This was the first R.C.A.F. Pathfinder squadron flying a Canadian-built Lancaster bomber (PB477, call letters: LQ-B) and was part of No. 156 Squadron Pathfinder Force (Group 8). This was an elite core of men. PB477 was shot down the night of 02 January 1945 over Rohrau, near the small town of Nufringen, Germany, on its way back to base following a successful raid on Nuremberg. Of the 7-man crew aboard this flight, 5 died; the remaining 2 members of the crew managed to parachute to safety only to be captured the following day by the Germans and interned in Stalag Luft 1, Barth, Germany. My uncle also lost his life aboard this flight. The remains of the dead airmen were removed from Rohrau and later buried in Durnbach War Cemetery in Bayern. The crew was comprised of 3 Brits, 1 Australian and 3 Canadians. One of the men who was killed was W/C Kenneth John Lawson. He was born 24 March 1913 in Brentford Middlesex and was the son of Frederick John Lawson and Beatrice Mary (née Hall) of Ealing. Records I have show that K. J. Lawson gave his home as Ealing. Although I have quite a bit of information regarding this crew and the various squadrons they flew with, I have scant “personal” information on Lawson. I am wondering if anyone on this list knows anything about him and/or his family or maybe even related to him. I am also looking for a picture of him. R.A.F. records are classified material and there are three sets of records I would need to order from Archives….a bit on the expensive side. I would be so grateful for any help. Dorothy Ottawa, Canada

Hi Diane, I found a marriage for Henry Dunn Woodey to Emma Maria Ann Cutress(?) in 1869 where Henry's occupation is as a Lighterman and his father is noted as Thomas Woodey deceased. the marriage took place at St. Andrew by the Wardrobe in London July 25th 1869. This marriage seems to fit with the Henry Dunn Woodey you found with the father called Thomas the bargeman? Did your own Henry have a wife called Emma do you know? I have found in the 1841 census what must be the same Henry Woodey as in the marriage above, and most likely the same person as you say you have found consistently in the census. His father is Thomas Woodey a Bargeman mother Martha. But in the 1841 census this Henry is only aged 4 so born about 1837 or so not 1812, you say your Henry Wm. Dunwoody was baptised in 1812 son of John & Sarah. In this entry I can see no middle name of Dunn as you say you have found. Other children's name in this family are Thomas 10, Alfred 7, Emily 9, Eliza 5. Both the father Thomas and his wife Martha say they were not born in the county in which they were living at the time of this cenus, i.e. Oxfordshire where they are at Henley on Thames, though the children are all shown as yes they were born in Oxon. The ref. for this 1841 entry is HO107 piece 874 book/ED 4 colio 35 page 25 I have seen the 1861 entry for Henry Dunwoody born about 1817 with a wife called Catherine who have a son called Henry William aged 12, so born about 1849, and who are living the North West of England, at Everton Lancashire, which matches what you say of your Henry William senior, in the 1851 census, and who you say was baptised little Marlow 1812 son of John and Sarah. Henry Dunwoody the father in the 1861 entry I found is a Coachman and was born Marlow Buckinghamshire, the ref. for this entry is RG9 piece 2720 folio 11 page 19 In the 1861 I did find a Heny Dunn Woodey aged 20, so born about 1840, born in Oxfordshire. His mother is Martha which matches with the above 1841 census entry where the father is Thomas. But in the 1861 the mother Martha has re.married to a James Well and Henry Dunn Woodey is noted as his son in law, meaning stepson. this Henry Dunn Woodey has the occupation of Lighterman App.(rentice). The Mother Martha is shown as born in Buckinghamshire. they are living at Christchurch Southwark, Surrey. Henry is indexed on Ancestry as Henry Dem Woodey. The ref for this 1861 entry is RG9 piece 312 folio 21 page 50. So you can see from this that there are two famlies with a son Henry and the surname Dunn Woodey or Dunwoody. they do not seem to tie up at all apart from the elder Henry Dunwoody in the 1861 entry above born about 1817 being born in Bucks. at Marlow. Maybe your Henry William Dunwoody born about 1812 had a brother Thomas who married Martha and both of them had sons called Henry. You would need to search the parish registers for Marlow perhaps to see if you can find baptisms for John and any siblings including a Thomas, and if that fails for Hedsor and then maybe Sunbury which is where you say your Henry William variously says he was born. I don't know if I have helped at all but perhaps you can see something here that will make you think and get you started moving again on the Dunwoody family. Regards Jenny DeAngelis << Hello,My mysterious gt gt Grandfather Henry William DUNWOODY was baptised in Little Marlow in 1812, the son of John, (transcribed as William, but I have seen the original and it's Jno), and Sarah. He then disappears from view to reappear in the North West in 1851. On the censuses, he lists his birthplace as Hedsor, then Marlow and then Sunbury in Middlesex. This coupled with his stating his father's occupation as Master Mariner makes me wonder if his father was a bargeman. Dunwoody is a very unusual surname in the South of England and I have found a family in Wooburn, (very close to both Marlow and Hedsor) who may be related, but I cannot find a definate link to my Henry.On the 1841 census in Henley is a family of WOODEYS who have the middle name Dunn, (Henry Dunn WOODEY shows up repeatedly). The father Thomas is a bargeman. It may be coincidence, but leads are so thin with this ancestor that I would like to ask the board if they have info on bargemen in the South of England or Woodeys, Dunwoodys and all its variants.RegardsDiane>>

________________________________ From: PETER WELLS <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012, 12:46 Subject: Re: [MDX] London Metropolitan Archives Hello Connie,   yes your right the LMA do hold much on london but so to do the many archives that are in london such as tower hamlets lambeth lewisham and southwark they all hold a wealth of information that is not yet on ancestry on account once it is they will be forced to close or reduce there hours i do my family history by visiting each archives and reading there electorial rolls now that i have progressed from the 1730s to the 1958 period thanks to the great help that NIVARD OVINGTON has given me you can also type in east london history society and get two sites both the east london and the tower hamlets sites my family is nearly finished now they were split up during the blitz and i am just finding some who went to canada in 1959 they were born in 1936 like I was. so i hope soon to come over some one living who I can contact geting the family baptisms was qite easy for my wells family who came from woodborough in wiltshire the wiltshire record office sold me all of these but I was unable to get the parants of the earl ones and after a short time I was told either they had not married or had come from out of the county being as by then iwas back to 1730 so would not have known them I chose to believe they were not married i did come accross another wells who was then still alive  but my worton kin have been a problem the vestry house archives will give you for free if you have the address three cpies of the electorial roll for who ever your searching for hardley any archives are open on a monday now due iwould think because they are open saturdays until late in many cases  if you go on the east london history society you can get a link to the wapping history trust  you will posibly find local archives much cheaper than the london metropolitan archives  and lets not forget the hackney archives who do a first rate job the WORTON family died out in the early 1979 period by this timeone of the daughters had married into the HARVEY family anothe binto the andrews family in chingford essex and olive may worton had emigrated into canada her father had been ALBERT THOMAS WORTON who had been born in shoreditch haggerston and lived in 88 whiston street his house had been pulled down after the war and he had moved to chingford while his mother and father were living in 65 grove green road leytonstone I have never found much about south london in the lma but my wife has progrest very well with all the infomation she has recieved from lanbeth and lewisham archives ALBERT thomAS WORTON had married a LILY MAY BReGENZER in 1933 in sept. 24th., many thanks pete a kid from shoreditch    ________________________________ From: Connie <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012, 15:16 Subject: Re: [MDX] London Metropolitan Archives [email protected] wrote: > Hello, > > I am wondering if anyone has ever used the research service at LMA? > I have taken a look at catalog but haven't gotten very far.  If you > have had experience with using the catalog or the service I would > be interested in your opinion and iinsights (off list if you would > like).  I understand that the LMA has a relationship with Ancestry > but that there is much that isn't online at this time. Hallo I've used their research service and found it to be very efficient and cost effective.  I found it was easier to mail them asking about a particular document for a specific person and giving the information I knew first. Ancestry has agreed with the LMA to digitise the parish registers for Greater London but NOT for Westiminster and the parishes which fall within their scope.  FindMyPast has the Westminster parish registers. Ancestry has a substantial number of the parish registers.  i don't know if the intention is to digitise any additional documents. ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters** List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ron, I agree a lighterman or waterman might consider himself a cut above a Bargeman, or more correctly a Bargee. Wikipedia says the following about Lightermen, though I know this site is only as good as the knowledge of the person who added the information to the site and there are errors contained within the site. "Lightermen were workers who transferred goods between Ships and quays, aboard flat-bottomed barges called Lighters in the Port of London" There is a lot more information about lightermen the same page as the link below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightermen As to the man being noted as a bargeman in the census, perhaps he himself didn't fill out the schedule for his household. Maybe someone else filling it out on his behalf knew he worked on a barge, lighter, and made the mistake of giving him the title of Bargeman instead of Lighterman, or Waterman. He might not have seen the filled out schedule, or might not have been able to read it, to know that the wrong title had been given to him. But he could just as easily have been a bargeman rather than a lighterman, which his son appears to have become later on. But as they lived by the Thames and lived on dry land I would have thought that the man would work on the River Thames rather than on a canal but I could be wrong. Lighterman records would need looking at to see if any apprentice binding can be found there for both father and son. A Bargee usually worked the canals on their barges on which they and their families lived transporting goods from one part of the country to another. The two lightermen in my husband's family lived with their families on dry land in the Middlesex area but worked on the River Thames. I remember as a child seeing the barges, that would be Lighters, on the river Thames taking, mostly, Rubbish out of London to be dealt with somewhere else, I don't know where they took it all to. Watermen, according to the above site, transported passengers. At the bottom of the above page are details of a book about lightermen written by a past lighterman. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<I wouldn't have thought that a bargeman has anything to do with watermen and lightermen who work on the Thames and have a history going back, I believe, to Elizabethan times. I think they were closely controlled and had to go through an apprenticeship before being able to work on their own. I think a bargeman would be someone who runs a barge on a canal and probably carried on the work that his father had been doing. I would imagine that watermen and lightermen would consider themselves to be superior to bargemen and would not want to be described as a bargeman in the census.>>

Hi,Do you have a website for the records offices? I had a quick look online but couldn't find any referance to this list.RegardsDiane > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MDX] dunwoody or Dunn Woodey, bargemen > From: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:46:55 -0400 > > Hello, > Have you tried the County record offices for the list of boatmen & > owners c1790'?. These lists were made when it was thought that Britain > could be invaded by France. They indicated where in England (canal) > boats were so that troops could be moved around fairly quickly > The lists held in Stafford & Chester name the boat owners & masters and > where they travelled to and from. > Just a thought. > Mo > (In Chester quite a lot of watermen named in census returns even though > they were on canal boats) > > -----Original Message----- > From: diane roscoe <[email protected]> > To: middlesex_county_uk <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 22:14 > Subject: Re: [MDX] dunwoody or Dunn Woodey, bargemen > > > Thank you so much for all of the help that I have been sent regarding > this. I agree that it is unlikely that John Dunwoody was a Master > Mariner, maybe Henry was talking his father's profession 'up' on his > marriage certificate. I doubt that I will ever know for sure as Master > Mariners did not register until about 1845, ( I think), and John > Dunwoody would have been earlier than that.I have had a look at the > register of watermen, (via findmypast) and there are no Dunwoodys or > Woodeys on this. As I know that a Thomas Dunwoody was listed as a > bargeman on the 1798 Posse list, I think that bargemen were not > included in the register.Again, thank you for the help and if you come > across any Dunwoodys in the South of England, please let me > know.RegardsDiane > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:57:00 +0100 > > Subject: [MDX] dunwoody or Dunn Woodey, bargemen > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,My mysterious gt gt Grandfather Henry William DUNWOODY was > baptised in Little Marlow in 1812, the son of John, (transcribed as > William, but I have seen the original and it's Jno), and Sarah. He then > disappears from view to reappear in the North West in 1851. On the > censuses, he lists his birthplace as Hedsor, then Marlow and then > Sunbury in Middlesex. This coupled with his stating his father's > occupation as Master Mariner makes me wonder if his father was a > bargeman. Dunwoody is a very unusual surname in the South of England > and I have found a family in Wooburn, (very close to both Marlow and > Hedsor) who may be related, but I cannot find a definate link to my > Henry.On the 1841 census in Henley is a family of WOODEYS who have the > middle name Dunn, (Henry Dunn WOODEY shows up repeatedly). The father > Thomas is a bargeman. It may be coincidence, but leads are so thin with > this ancestor that I would like to ask the board if they have info on > bargemen in the South of Engl! > an! > > d or Woodeys, Dunwoodys and all its variants.RegardsDiane > > > ************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > CAPITAL letters** > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Many thanks to Nivard & Andy for their help with my Leonard Abrehart. A friend has suggested that he may have dropped the Abrehart because he thought it sounded too German in 1914. That's another problem I have trying to locate the origin of Abrehart/Abrahart/ Abyheart etc. The earliest in London is in the 1700's. Regards Sheila NSW