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    1. [MIDDLEMASS] change of email address
    2. Helen Weir
    3. I am in the process of changing my email address. old address: helen.weir1@btopenworld.com new address: helenweir2@gmail.com Please update your address list. Thank you. Helen Weir

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    1. [MIDDLEMASS] Change of address
    2. helen herbert
    3. Dear Friends I have changed my email address to: hiherbert@nettel.net.nz Would you kindly change your address book please? If you have sent something to my old address within the last 24 hours or so, would you mind sending it again, please? Regards Helen

    12/07/2007 09:19:17
    1. Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Thomas Middlemiss and Eleanor Potts
    2. alananne
    3. Phil I can see a number of Middlemass with Potts middle names and two of these are John. Only one of these appears to be in 1901 census as far as I can see. births John Potts Middlemiss Greenwich June quarter 1889 John Potts Middlemiss Southampton June quarter 1891 The second John P is in 1901 census. Which, if any, is your connection? Alan Middlemass Bearpark, Durham UK I have not created any attachments to this mail From: "Phil Anderson" < panderson@AQUASCIENCE.COM> Subject: Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Thomas Middlemiss and Eleanor Potts Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:00:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <000801c8033c$708589e0$0201a8c0@your83dafb4529> My grandfather was John Potts Middlemiss. I am not at all certain of his ancentry, but I will bet about a million dollars that he comes from this line. Phil alananne wrote: > I have been contacted by a descendant of the above couple who were > married > in Newcastle upon Tyne at St John the Baptist Church in 1849. Thomas > is from > the Cowpen, Northumberland area where his parents Thomas and Sarah > are shown > in the 1851 census and Eleanor was born in Stannington. Eleanor is > shown as > the head of household in 1851 census near to her parents-in-law. > > After 1851 Thomas and Eleanor moved to the London area and there are > census > index entries for Greenwich in 1881 and 1891 for Eleanor who may be > the > death entry in Croydon area in December quarter 1893. Thomas may be > the > death entry in Southwark in 1910. > > The older Thomas is shown as born at Wooler around 1798 and there is > at > least one baptism in that area in that year. Sarah appears to be from > Jarrow > where the family are shown in 1841 census and where several of their > children were born. By 1851 these children included Robert [1830], > William [1833], Mary [1836], James [1837], Barbra [1838] and Jane > [1844] besides > younger Thomas. > > The use of the forename Barbara may indicate a connection that one > baptism > in Wooler on 23 July 1798. > > Is anyone researching this line and connected at all to the > descendants of > Thomas and Eleanor? > > Alan Middlemass > Bearpark, Durham UK > > I have not created any attachments to this mail > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLEMASS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/03/2007 02:49:37
    1. Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Thomas Middlemiss and Eleanor Potts
    2. Phil Anderson
    3. John Potts Middlemiss of Greenwich is mine. Phil -----Original Message----- From: middlemass-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlemass-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of alananne Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:50 AM To: middlemass@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Thomas Middlemiss and Eleanor Potts Phil I can see a number of Middlemass with Potts middle names and two of these are John. Only one of these appears to be in 1901 census as far as I can see. births John Potts Middlemiss Greenwich June quarter 1889 John Potts Middlemiss Southampton June quarter 1891 The second John P is in 1901 census. Which, if any, is your connection? Alan Middlemass Bearpark, Durham UK I have not created any attachments to this mail From: "Phil Anderson" < panderson@AQUASCIENCE.COM> Subject: Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Thomas Middlemiss and Eleanor Potts Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:00:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <000801c8033c$708589e0$0201a8c0@your83dafb4529> My grandfather was John Potts Middlemiss. I am not at all certain of his ancentry, but I will bet about a million dollars that he comes from this line. Phil alananne wrote: > I have been contacted by a descendant of the above couple who were > married in Newcastle upon Tyne at St John the Baptist Church in 1849. > Thomas is from > the Cowpen, Northumberland area where his parents Thomas and Sarah > are shown > in the 1851 census and Eleanor was born in Stannington. Eleanor is > shown as > the head of household in 1851 census near to her parents-in-law. > > After 1851 Thomas and Eleanor moved to the London area and there are > census index entries for Greenwich in 1881 and 1891 for Eleanor who > may be the > death entry in Croydon area in December quarter 1893. Thomas may be > the > death entry in Southwark in 1910. > > The older Thomas is shown as born at Wooler around 1798 and there is > at least one baptism in that area in that year. Sarah appears to be > from Jarrow > where the family are shown in 1841 census and where several of their > children were born. By 1851 these children included Robert [1830], > William [1833], Mary [1836], James [1837], Barbra [1838] and Jane > [1844] besides > younger Thomas. > > The use of the forename Barbara may indicate a connection that one > baptism in Wooler on 23 July 1798. > > Is anyone researching this line and connected at all to the > descendants of Thomas and Eleanor? > > Alan Middlemass > Bearpark, Durham UK > > I have not created any attachments to this mail > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLEMASS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLEMASS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

    10/03/2007 02:12:57
    1. Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Thomas Middlemiss and Eleanor Potts
    2. Phil Anderson
    3. My grandfather was John Potts Middlemiss. I am not at all certain of his ancentry, but I will bet about a million dollars that he comes from this line. Phil -----Original Message----- From: middlemass-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlemass-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of alananne Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:32 AM To: MIDDLEMASS@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIDDLEMASS] Thomas Middlemiss and Eleanor Potts I have been contacted by a descendant of the above couple who were married in Newcastle upon Tyne at St John the Baptist Church in 1849. Thomas is from the Cowpen, Northumberland area where his parents Thomas and Sarah are shown in the 1851 census and Eleanor was born in Stannington. Eleanor is shown as the head of household in 1851 census near to her parents-in-law. After 1851 Thomas and Eleanor moved to the London area and there are census index entries for Greenwich in 1881 and 1891 for Eleanor who may be the death entry in Croydon area in December quarter 1893. Thomas may be the death entry in Southwark in 1910. The older Thomas is shown as born at Wooler around 1798 and there is at least one baptism in that area in that year. Sarah appears to be from Jarrow where the family are shown in 1841 census and where several of their children were born. By 1851 these children included Robert [1830], William [1833], Mary [1836], James [1837], Barbra [1838] and Jane [1844] besides younger Thomas. The use of the forename Barbara may indicate a connection that one baptism in Wooler on 23 July 1798. Is anyone researching this line and connected at all to the descendants of Thomas and Eleanor? Alan Middlemass Bearpark, Durham UK I have not created any attachments to this mail ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLEMASS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

    10/01/2007 02:00:34
    1. [MIDDLEMASS] Thomas Middlemiss and Eleanor Potts
    2. alananne
    3. I have been contacted by a descendant of the above couple who were married in Newcastle upon Tyne at St John the Baptist Church in 1849. Thomas is from the Cowpen, Northumberland area where his parents Thomas and Sarah are shown in the 1851 census and Eleanor was born in Stannington. Eleanor is shown as the head of household in 1851 census near to her parents-in-law. After 1851 Thomas and Eleanor moved to the London area and there are census index entries for Greenwich in 1881 and 1891 for Eleanor who may be the death entry in Croydon area in December quarter 1893. Thomas may be the death entry in Southwark in 1910. The older Thomas is shown as born at Wooler around 1798 and there is at least one baptism in that area in that year. Sarah appears to be from Jarrow where the family are shown in 1841 census and where several of their children were born. By 1851 these children included Robert [1830], William [1833], Mary [1836], James [1837], Barbra [1838] and Jane [1844] besides younger Thomas. The use of the forename Barbara may indicate a connection that one baptism in Wooler on 23 July 1798. Is anyone researching this line and connected at all to the descendants of Thomas and Eleanor? Alan Middlemass Bearpark, Durham UK I have not created any attachments to this mail

    09/30/2007 03:32:28
    1. Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Jessie Middlemiss
    2. Helen Weir
    3. Hi Kate Your Jessie Middlemiss was my g grandmother. I have quite a lot of information about her. I'm contacting you directly at your email address. Helen Weir ----- Original Message ----- From: "K S Vale" <incah@hotmail.co.uk> To: <MIDDLEMASS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:57 PM Subject: [MIDDLEMASS] Jessie Middlemiss > Hi, > I am looking for information on my 3 x grt grandmother Jessie > Middlemiss. She is the daughter of Robert Middlemiss and she married James > Henderson in 1857 at Muckleramer Antrim. > > Her marriage certificate shows that the minister was Thomas Middlemiss who > I've presumed is a relative. I also know she had a sister Elizabeth who > was > a witness to her marriage. Elizabeth married John Lawther in Antrim in > 1857. > > Jessie is proving to be very elusive! Can anyone help? > > Best Wishes > > Kate > > _________________________________________________________________ > Got a favourite clothes shop, bar or restaurant? Share your local > knowledge > http://www.backofmyhand.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLEMASS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: 07/09/2007 > 16:40 > >

    09/12/2007 12:56:21
    1. [MIDDLEMASS] Jessie Middlemiss
    2. K S Vale
    3. Hi, I am looking for information on my 3 x grt grandmother Jessie Middlemiss. She is the daughter of Robert Middlemiss and she married James Henderson in 1857 at Muckleramer Antrim. Her marriage certificate shows that the minister was Thomas Middlemiss who I've presumed is a relative. I also know she had a sister Elizabeth who was a witness to her marriage. Elizabeth married John Lawther in Antrim in 1857. Jessie is proving to be very elusive! Can anyone help? Best Wishes Kate _________________________________________________________________ Got a favourite clothes shop, bar or restaurant? Share your local knowledge http://www.backofmyhand.com

    09/12/2007 10:57:43
    1. Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Middlemas Newcomer
    2. Kath Liddell
    3. Colin It's nice to meet someone from Elizabeth's line, as she was the informant of the death of her mother in Newcastle workhouse. My line goes (all in Newcastle): William Middlem* (1823-1898) = Ann Hives (1821-1899) ... 6 children, youngest Margaret James Cave Young (1857-1911) = Margaret Ann Middlemiss (1858-1893) ... 7 children, eldest Margaret John Parker (1881-1935) = Margaret Young (1881-1935) ... 2 children, younger Margaret, my mother. The lady I will be meeting soon is a descendant of William and Ann's son Thomas 1848. I haven't tried to investigate George Patterson, but from the censuses he appears to have been a seaman in his young days, born Scotland (or anywhere in the vicinity probably). I have a birth certificate for Elizabeth, different from your info (1871 enumerator must have had a bad hair day), so I'll send you some stuff separately. Best wishes, Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Campbell To: middlemass@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Middlemas Newcomer Kath, I did find the Settlement Certificate at Woodhorn. I've been visiting there on an irregular basis for the past 6 months focussing on particular family each time. It just so happened that this week was Middlemas. Where I fit in after William is as follows:- William marries Ann Hives in 1846 in Newcastle and they have 6 children. The eldest, Elizabeth, who I have born in Beadnall marries George Patterson in 1867 in Newcastle. Now, George appears to have been born around 1843 in North Northumberland and he is just as difficult to trace as William. George and Elizabeth have 4 children all born in South Shields between 1868 and 1873. Their eldest, Thomas, marries Isabella Burke in 1889 in South Shields and they also have 4 children between 1890 and 1899. (My mother has described him as a "nasty old man"). My grandfather, William, was their 3rd child and marries Lilian Culling (fortunately) whose family are mainly from Norfolk. They have 7 children, all born in South Shields, between 1921 and 1939. 5 of who are still alive. I think that puts William as my ggg-grandfather. How do you fit in with William? Colin -----Original Message----- From: middlemass-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlemass-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kath Liddell Sent: 01 September 2007 00:39 To: middlemass@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Middlemas Newcomer Hello Colin A big welcome - and if you are a descendant of William 1823, I'd very much like to know where you fit in. Without looking them up again I imagine my queries of 2002 still stand. I have a heap of stuff, not all of which is consistent and like you I haven't been able to find William's birth in Norham without wildly speculating on his parentage. His (half?) sister Margaret and (half?) brother Walter are there. I have investigated Walter a bit more and the lives of both Walter and William seem to be self-consistent, but prior to 1820 is still a bit of a mix-up. Interesting that you have found a Settlement Certificate for Eleanor. Where did you find it - Woodhorn? I'm afraid I don't know how these work and haven't come across this before. According to the census Eleanor was born in Beadnell and there is a baptism in Beadnell Chapelry 13 Nov 1799, which "comprises the townships of Beadnell, Swinhoe and Tuggal", within the ancient parish of Bamburgh, so the lady you found must be the same person (mother of Walter and William). I suppose it's always possible that William was born somewhere other than Norham, although I find it hard to believe. I have looked through the transcripts available in Newcastle City Library, but haven't had time to look up all the originals at Woodhorn, except Norham - sadly 1823 falls in the gap 1812-1837. Eleanor and her old father were both pauper/receiving parish relief in 1851 in Newcastle, but there was no occupation given in 1841 Quite by coincidence I will be meeting another of William's descendants for the first time on 11th Sept, so it would be nice to have something new to share. I'll look forward to comparing notes. Kath ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLEMASS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/01/2007 09:03:24
    1. Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Middlemas Newcomer
    2. Colin Campbell
    3. Kath, I did find the Settlement Certificate at Woodhorn. I've been visiting there on an irregular basis for the past 6 months focussing on particular family each time. It just so happened that this week was Middlemas. Where I fit in after William is as follows:- William marries Ann Hives in 1846 in Newcastle and they have 6 children. The eldest, Elizabeth, who I have born in Beadnall marries George Patterson in 1867 in Newcastle. Now, George appears to have been born around 1843 in North Northumberland and he is just as difficult to trace as William. George and Elizabeth have 4 children all born in South Shields between 1868 and 1873. Their eldest, Thomas, marries Isabella Burke in 1889 in South Shields and they also have 4 children between 1890 and 1899. (My mother has described him as a "nasty old man"). My grandfather, William, was their 3rd child and marries Lilian Culling (fortunately) whose family are mainly from Norfolk. They have 7 children, all born in South Shields, between 1921 and 1939. 5 of who are still alive. I think that puts William as my ggg-grandfather. How do you fit in with William? Colin -----Original Message----- From: middlemass-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlemass-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kath Liddell Sent: 01 September 2007 00:39 To: middlemass@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Middlemas Newcomer Hello Colin A big welcome - and if you are a descendant of William 1823, I'd very much like to know where you fit in. Without looking them up again I imagine my queries of 2002 still stand. I have a heap of stuff, not all of which is consistent and like you I haven't been able to find William's birth in Norham without wildly speculating on his parentage. His (half?) sister Margaret and (half?) brother Walter are there. I have investigated Walter a bit more and the lives of both Walter and William seem to be self-consistent, but prior to 1820 is still a bit of a mix-up. Interesting that you have found a Settlement Certificate for Eleanor. Where did you find it - Woodhorn? I'm afraid I don't know how these work and haven't come across this before. According to the census Eleanor was born in Beadnell and there is a baptism in Beadnell Chapelry 13 Nov 1799, which "comprises the townships of Beadnell, Swinhoe and Tuggal", within the ancient parish of Bamburgh, so the lady you found must be the same person (mother of Walter and William). I suppose it's always possible that William was born somewhere other than Norham, although I find it hard to believe. I have looked through the transcripts available in Newcastle City Library, but haven't had time to look up all the originals at Woodhorn, except Norham - sadly 1823 falls in the gap 1812-1837. Eleanor and her old father were both pauper/receiving parish relief in 1851 in Newcastle, but there was no occupation given in 1841 Quite by coincidence I will be meeting another of William's descendants for the first time on 11th Sept, so it would be nice to have something new to share. I'll look forward to comparing notes. Kath

    09/01/2007 07:54:30
    1. Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Middlemas Newcomer
    2. alananne
    3. Colin Campbell wrote: > William Middlemas b: 1823 Norham. > > I have discovered a Settlement Certificate for an Eleanor Middlemas > dated 15th November 1823, which appears to allow Eleanor to be > "transferred" from the Norham Parish to Swinhoe in the Bamburgh > parish. > Maybe William was born in Swonhoe rather than Norham? Secondly, are > there any Parish records out there that record payments made to > paupers? Hello Colin I imagine that Kath will be more helpful to you than I but when you are dealing with a border parish you have to take into account the extent of Presbyterianism and that you need to look for the Scots and English versions possibly existing near to each other. Also the size and shape of parishes does not automatically mean that a birth parish is the logical place for a baptism. The nearest church may not be the parish church. If you look at the details for Norham on GENUKI you will see that it is touched by a lot of other parish boundaries, including a few in Berwickshire. The County Council has a few snippets from its archives on its Communities website but for some reason Norham is not one of these. The Swinhoe reference may be to Tuggal Hall where I know there was a Middlem#ss but the proximity to Alnwick may be the probable link as the name has some strength in that general area. While my interest is in Longhoughton there is evidence that I have a few drawn to the Alnwick vicinity and there is always the influence of the Northumberland Estates which could mean someone might move house/area but not necessarily employer. And ,of course, I imagine also you could find someone just moving to the next farm to work but actually changing parish and in north Norham area may be even the country. The Northumberland Communities website is at http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/Communities.htm if it is of any background use to you. Alan Middlemass Bearpark, Durham UK I have not created any attachments to this mail

    09/01/2007 03:21:58
    1. Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Middlemas Newcomer
    2. Kath Liddell
    3. Hello Colin A big welcome - and if you are a descendant of William 1823, I'd very much like to know where you fit in. Without looking them up again I imagine my queries of 2002 still stand. I have a heap of stuff, not all of which is consistent and like you I haven't been able to find William's birth in Norham without wildly speculating on his parentage. His (half?) sister Margaret and (half?) brother Walter are there. I have investigated Walter a bit more and the lives of both Walter and William seem to be self-consistent, but prior to 1820 is still a bit of a mix-up. Interesting that you have found a Settlement Certificate for Eleanor. Where did you find it - Woodhorn? I'm afraid I don't know how these work and haven't come across this before. According to the census Eleanor was born in Beadnell and there is a baptism in Beadnell Chapelry 13 Nov 1799, which "comprises the townships of Beadnell, Swinhoe and Tuggal", within the ancient parish of Bamburgh, so the lady you found must be the same person (mother of Walter and William). I suppose it's always possible that William was born somewhere other than Norham, although I find it hard to believe. I have looked through the transcripts available in Newcastle City Library, but haven't had time to look up all the originals at Woodhorn, except Norham - sadly 1823 falls in the gap 1812-1837. Eleanor and her old father were both pauper/receiving parish relief in 1851 in Newcastle, but there was no occupation given in 1841 Quite by coincidence I will be meeting another of William's descendants for the first time on 11th Sept, so it would be nice to have something new to share. I'll look forward to comparing notes. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Campbell To: MIDDLEMASS@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: [MIDDLEMASS] Middlemas Newcomer Greetings to the Middlemas brick wall climbers, This family tree mularky is a bit frustrating! I've been tracking my family for the 18 months (only) and discovered a Middlemas ancestor. William Middlemas b: 1823 Norham. Looking through the archives here I see there's one or two references to this guy, particularly Kath Liddell's mail way back in 2002. I'd like to say I've found something really significant, but alas, after wading through the Northumberland archive I can only add one small items of information. I have discovered a Settlement Certificate for an Eleanor Middlemas dated 15th November 1823, which appears to allow Eleanor to be "transferred" from the Norham Parish to Swinhoe in the Bamburgh parish. Maybe William was born in Swonhoe rather than Norham? Secondly, are there any Parish records out there that record payments made to paupers? Colin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLEMASS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/31/2007 06:39:01
    1. [MIDDLEMASS] Middlemas Newcomer
    2. Colin Campbell
    3. Greetings to the Middlemas brick wall climbers, This family tree mularky is a bit frustrating! I've been tracking my family for the 18 months (only) and discovered a Middlemas ancestor. William Middlemas b: 1823 Norham. Looking through the archives here I see there's one or two references to this guy, particularly Kath Liddell's mail way back in 2002. I'd like to say I've found something really significant, but alas, after wading through the Northumberland archive I can only add one small items of information. I have discovered a Settlement Certificate for an Eleanor Middlemas dated 15th November 1823, which appears to allow Eleanor to be "transferred" from the Norham Parish to Swinhoe in the Bamburgh parish. Maybe William was born in Swonhoe rather than Norham? Secondly, are there any Parish records out there that record payments made to paupers? Colin

    08/31/2007 03:55:02
    1. Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Thomas and Susanna
    2. alananne
    3. Kath Liddell wrote: > Alan > > Thanks for the reminder - it's a while since I looked up the > Chronicle link. FreeBMD gives the age as 66 in JunQ 1893. I see now > that there is also another possible death, so there was clearly more > than one Thomas fitting the bill: MIDDLEMISS, Thomas 27 Oct > 1892 65 Heaton - DecQ 1892 age 65 > > Thomas would be widowed by then, so pursuing these must be next on my > "to do" list. There should be some extra info here. Kath The Heaton Thomas is in 1881 census in Grafton Street, Byker and still somewhere in Byker census in 1891 [although I have not got the precise details] while your Thomas is in 1891 St Nicholas so I had speculated that this might distinguish them. Alan Middlemass Bearpark, Durham UK I have not created any attachments to this mail

    07/07/2007 02:23:47
    1. Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Thomas and Susanna
    2. Kath Liddell
    3. Alan Thanks for the reminder - it's a while since I looked up the Chronicle link. FreeBMD gives the age as 66 in JunQ 1893. I see now that there is also another possible death, so there was clearly more than one Thomas fitting the bill: MIDDLEMISS, Thomas 27 Oct 1892 65 Heaton - DecQ 1892 age 65 Thomas would be widowed by then, so pursuing these must be next on my "to do" list. There should be some extra info here. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: alananne Not seen these in 1871 census but I did wonder if Thomas was in the obits in Newcastle Chronicle http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/DeathNotices/deaths_MCVI.html MIDDLEMASS, Thomas 18 Jun 1893 65 Newcastle Alan Middlemass Bearpark, Durham UK

    07/06/2007 05:56:47
    1. Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Thomas and Susanna
    2. alananne
    3. Kath Liddell wrote: > Hello All > Thomas was born 28 Aug 1858 to parents Thomas Middlemass and Mary > (Middlemass formerly) Clark [s: birth certificate]. I may have > missed some of this family, because only two children, Thomas and > Isabella 1862, appear in the 1861 and 1881 censuses. I haven't yet > found them in 1871, nor can I find a marriage for this couple. Kath Not seen these in 1871 census but I did wonder if Thomas was in the obits in Newcastle Chronicle http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/DeathNotices/deaths_MCVI.html MIDDLEMASS, Thomas 18 Jun 1893 65 Newcastle Alan Middlemass Bearpark, Durham UK I have not created any attachments to this mail

    07/06/2007 05:16:01
    1. [MIDDLEMASS] Thomas and Susanna
    2. Kath Liddell
    3. Hello All ... I'm sure there must be an "All" out there ... I have discovered that one of my workmates had a Middlemiss grandmother. I'm trying to confirm that we are cousins, but have met an obstacle. Does anyone know these people, please. All these are Newcastle upon Tyne unless otherwise stated. Mary Ellen Middlemiss 1888 married John Stoker on 23rd Feb 1914 [s: marriage certificate]. Mary Ellen's parents were Thomas Middlemiss (26) and Sarah Annie Atherton (22) who married 23 Feb 1885 [s: marriage certificate]. Thomas was born 28 Aug 1858 to parents Thomas Middlemass and Mary (Middlemass formerly) Clark [s: birth certificate]. I may have missed some of this family, because only two children, Thomas and Isabella 1862, appear in the 1861 and 1881 censuses. I haven't yet found them in 1871, nor can I find a marriage for this couple. In the censuses, the only family I can find to accommodate Thomas 1827 b Newcastle has parents Thomas 1793 b Norham and Susannah 1793 b Berwick. I have already met a Thomas 1793 b Norham, father Thomas, but I have no knowledge of a marriage or children. I haven't found a marriage for Thomas and Susanna either, although this could be across the border. Do these people ring any bells with anyone? Kath

    07/06/2007 03:35:14
    1. [MIDDLEMASS] Will - Christian Middlemas
    2. Kath Liddell
    3. Hello list I have recently downloaded a will which unfortunately is no connection with my Middlemas/miss family, but if anyone is interested, here are some details:- Christian Middlemas of Newcastle upon Tyne, will dated 28 March 1804, probate14 May 1810. Two children listed are son William Middlemas and Jane, wife of John Railston. She has a 16th share of a boat named Veronica, which she leaves to her grandson William Middlemas when he reaches 21 yrs. Executors are son William Middlemas, son-in-law John Railston and friend James Berk. James Berk's wife and Mrs Blaycock, wife of George Blaycock are each to receive a ring. >From IGI ... William Middlemas = Christian Allen m 16 Jul 1771 All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne John Railston = Jane Allen m 05 May 1787 All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne More on request - the script takes some deciphering. P.S My Middlem*ses of Norham are becoming no less of a mystery !! Best wishes, Kath

    06/16/2007 06:28:46
    1. Re: [MIDDLEMASS] Middlemass in the BDM indexes for England and Wales
    2. Michael Ryan
    3. Alan Thanks for your work on this. I am seeking further information on my gg grandparents, David Middlemis who married Hannah McDonald. In your list you have them marrying in Liverpool in 1839/12. David and Hannah migrated to Cowra, NSW, Australia in 1840 and I have good records from that time on, though not the name of the ship or date of their arrival in Australia. David died in 1878 and Hannah in 1860 and they are buried in Jerula cemetery near Cowra, NSW. My g grandmother, also Hannah, was possibly born in England in 1839, on the boat or after their arrival in Australia in 1840. She married Thomas Walsh and died in Cowra in 1910. David was born in Berwickshire in 1811 and Hannah in Cumberland in 1813. David's parents were Joseph Middlemis (b 1790 in Scotland) and mother Mary Evans (b. 1792). Hannah's parents were William and Hannah Mcdonald. That is the full extent of my knowledge of them pre 1839. I would love to make contact with anyone who has knowledge of this family in Berwickshire and any details of parish/town where Joseph and Mary Middlemis may be buried or any firther details of their family. thanks Michael Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "alananne" <alananne041968@btinternet.com> To: <middlemass@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 6:02 PM Subject: [MIDDLEMASS] Middlemass in the BDM indexes for England and Wales > The list that I compiled to fill the gap in my ancestry has now been > extended to 1960 where it must stop for the moment. > > If you want to check it out it is at ttp://tinyurl.com/347sfb > > Alan Middlemass > Bearpark, Durham UK > > I have not created any attachments to this mail > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLEMASS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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