Nope, Here is the Michigan State Law right from the Michigan State website. Certified Copies Anyone is eligible to receive a certified copy of a Michigan death, marriage or divorce record if ...... (my ending here, we are not discussing death, marriage, divorce.) Anyone is also eligible to receive a birth record if that birth occurred at least 100 years ago (MCL 333.2882(1)(b)). A certified copy is printed on special safety paper and contains a raised, embossed seal. According to MCL 333.2882(1)(a)), only the following parties are eligible for a certified copy of a birth record that is not at least 100 years old: (I have added numbers here to clarify my point. The numbers are not part of the Michigan State site.) Number 5 applies to those related to the individual, which covers those of us trying to get a birth certificate for our ancestors. We would be considered heirs. The way I got the birth certificate for my dead brother was to copy this law directly from the Michigan State Website with a link and the clerk checked with her supervisor, who called Lansing, who told them I was correct. 1. The person named on the record, 2. A parent named on the record, 3. A legal guardian of the person named on the record. With your application you must include a copy of the court-appointed legal guardianship papers. A custody paper is not acceptable unless it specifically names you as a custodial parent. 4. A legal representative of the person named on the record. You must include with the application a letter having your official letterhead stating who you represent. 5. An heir if the person on the record is deceased. A copy of a birth record can be released to an heir of a deceased person, but you must state your relationship to the person, provide the decedent's married name at the time of death, and date and place of death. 6. A court of competent jurisdiction that supplies a court order (a Michigan court, a federal court or another jurisdiction whose laws are not in conflict with Michigan laws). Renee Order a birth, death, marriage, or divorce record: - Online using a credit card - By mail Certified Copies Anyone is eligible to receive a certified copy of a Michigan death, marriage or divorce record if he or she makes the request in writing and prepay the required search fee (MCL 333.2882(1c)) and (MCL 333.2882(1d)). Anyone is also eligible to receive a birth record if that birth occurred at least 100 years ago (MCL 333.2882(1)(b)). A certified copy is printed on special safety paper and contains a raised, embossed seal. According to MCL 333.2882(1)(a)), only the following parties are eligible for a certified copy of a birth record that is not at least 100 years old: The person named on the record, A parent named on the record, A legal guardian of the person named on the record. With your application you must include a copy of the court-appointed legal guardianship papers. A custody paper is not acceptable unless it specifically names you as a custodial parent. A legal representative of the person named on the record. You must include with the application a letter having your official letterhead stating who you represent. An heir if the person on the record is deceased. A copy of a birth record can be released to an heir of a deceased person, but you must state your relationship to the person, provide the decedent's married name at the time of death, and date and place of death. A court of competent jurisdiction that supplies a court order (a Michigan court, a federal court or another jurisdiction whose laws are not in conflict with Michigan laws). Order a birth, death, marriage, or divorce record: - Online using a credit card - By mail On 12/8/2004 3:23:57 PM, [email protected] wrote: > you must have had a lucky day with the clerk........ > and yes they are closed in many many michigan counties even if over 100 > years > > the issue in michigan is mute... > it already exists.... > sad > but true > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Renee O. > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:15 PM > Subject: Re: [micalhou] New Legislation to affect Genealogists..... > > > Well, actually, they are not closed if they are over 100 (I believe that > is the > cutoff) years old. > > You can also get them if you can prove the person is deceased. I did that > with > my brother who only lived one day. > > Renee (Holmes) > O'Neal > > --- ".... valentine" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > someone > > seems to think that this is NEWS to MICHIGAN... > > birth records in michigan have been closed to all except the person > > and immediate descendents if PROVEN for years.... > > and years.... > > in michigan, this is nothing new.... > > > > > > On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 11:12:49 -0700, Marta Norton <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >From another list I am on: > > >