I'm getting in on the disccusion a bit late here but ... I am from a STOUT line from NY believed to be of English descent. Francis STOUT b. 1800 Hunterdon, New Jersey, married Rhonda WISNER who was b. about 1805 in NY. Francis died in Lenawee County, MI in 1884. Francis and Rhoda had 11 kids: Eunice b. circa 1823; Julia Ann b Jan 22, 1826; Mahlon b. Dec. 25, 1829 near Buffalo, New York & married Nancy Melissa FAILING Aug. 31, 1851 in Marshall, Clarendon Twnshp, Calhoun County, MI (mine); Arwinilla b circa 1831, Milton b circa 1834; Manson b circa 1836; Francis b. circa 1837; Elizabeth b circa 1839; Sarah b circa 1841; Alonzo b circa 1843; Clarissa b circa 1849. There is not a Laberteaux on my list yet but there may have been an intermarriage with a Stout descendent somewhere. Francis STOUT's (b. 1800) father appears to be Zebedee STOUT b. July 6, 1770 in Hunterdon, NJ. Zeb died March 25, 1850 in Niagara County, NY. Zeb's wife was Eunice "Nucy" HAGAMAN. I have a record of 7 kids: John, Francis, Benjamin, Sarah, Arminda, Isaac, Seneca. The father of Zebedee STOUT per my records was Benjamin STOUT b. 1745 who married Elizabeth ANDERSON. My records show 3 kids: Zebedee, Grace, and William. Benjamin appears to have served in the Revolution. While I do not see a Dutch connection in my direct Stout + ancestry, there was definitely a German connection. Since they lived around an area that had a lot of Dutch influence it's quite likely that some of the descendents did intermarry with Dutch. There are other, unrelated Stout lines though, including the German Stouts (Staughts and other spellings) who settled originally in PA. On the other hand, with PA & NY next door to each other it's entirely possible that the two different lines did move other the state lines and settle. It appears that my line started out in Hunterdon, NJ, and moved from east to west across the mid section of NY finally landing in Niagara County (see above) and then Lenawee County, MI and then some into Calhoun County. There appears to be a record of Zebedee Stout living in Schenectady, NY. Zebedee STOUT is on the "Jury List Romulus, Seneca Co., NY 1804" on _ww.rootsweb.com/~nyseneca/rom1804.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyseneca/rom1804.htm) However, there is another Zebedee Stout, I believe, who was a Quaker in Indiana, I believe, so it's a bit hard to distinguish between the different lines even though Zebedee is an unusual name. Sheryl In a message dated 8/28/2004 1:08:37 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stout Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RFB.2ACE/76.2.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Ann -- I had to go back to my original message to figure out what I was trying to track down at the time. As I recall, John and Selah are buried in the same cemetery as my Laberteaux ancestors. From a plat map, their farms were in close proximity. I knew from previous research that Stouts/Sturts had married with the Laboyteaux's (original spelling) through the Dutch Reformed Church in NJ in the mid 1700s. I wondered if these families might be known to each other before migrating to Calhoun Co. Mine came by way of PA, and Cayoga Co., NY. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237