Did you see George and Gwendola Hadley living in Bluffton, Indiana in 1930? Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Family Historian" <afamhistorian@yahoo.com> To: <micalhou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [MICALHOU] Perry & Etta Smith; Floyd France; Seaman; Wiley;Ringer > Cheryl, > > Oh my gosh, I guess I hadn't thought they were in > Michigan yet in 1930. I got his SS application from > 1936, and it had him living in LaPorte, IN!! And he > remodeled his home in Indianapolis in 1926 from a > newspaper article I was able to find. I've never > found any marriages for he and Etta. I was told that > she was perhaps a neighbor of his in Indianapolis, but > of course, no Etta to be found in 1920 anywhere nearby > his home. However, even though they changed all the > last names to Smith, I'm sure the children's first > names are probably accurate. Now I will go back to > Indianapolis and look for them that way in the census. > > > I'm just dizzy with all this new information!! Thanks > so much!! > > Barb > --- Cheryl <cheryl@waterman.net> wrote: > >> Barb, >> >> My first question to you would be, "Are you a member >> of Ancestry?" If not, >> then I wonder if you have looked in any of the >> census records. That's where >> I would start. >> >> I find Perry E. Smith, 44, and wife Etta P., 39, in >> District 36 of Bedford >> Township, Calhoun County, Michigan in the 1930 >> census. In that census it >> does not say how long they were married---only how >> old they were when they >> FIRST got married (not necessarily to each other). >> This census says that >> Perry was married first at 21, and has an unknown >> mark to Etta. >> >> BOTH are listed as having been born in Kentucky >> along with ALL parents. >> >> He is a machinist working in a machine shop, owns >> his house, worth about >> $4000 and has a radio. >> >> Two children are living with them. There is no >> indication of any "step" but >> they have the last name of Smith. They are "Junior >> F.", 18 years old, born >> in OHIO, and Pearl F., 15 years old and born in >> INDIANA. >> >> I'll look and see if I see them in any other >> records, and I'm sure other >> people might help you look too. >> >> Cheryl >> >> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:50 PM >> Subject: [MICALHOU] Perry & Etta Smith; Floyd >> France; Seaman; Wiley; Ringer >> > I'm new to the list, and hoping you can help me. >> >> "Perry >> > Smith" was my grandfather. "Etta" was the love of >> his >> > life. They lived in Battle Creek, and passed away >> in >> > 1964 & 1965. Their obituaries mention her >> children >> > from a former marriage. Following is Etta's >> obituary: >> > >> > Mrs. Etta P.[Pearl] Smith, 71, wife of Perry E. >> Smith >> > of 28 Sylvan Drive, died unexpectedly this morning >> at >> > the residence. She was found dead, lying on a >> > davenport in the living room, by her husband at >> about >> > 8 a.m. She had been under treatment by a >> physician >> > for high blood pressure but had not appeared >> > critically ill. She was born March 8, 1893, at >> > Cleveland, Ohio, a daughter of William and >> Florence >> > (Ringer) Wiley, and had been a Battle Creek >> resident >> > since 1925. She and Mr. Smith were married Sept. >> 28, >> > 1925. She was a member of Bedford Chapter, OES. >> Her >> > survivors include two children by a previous >> marriage, >> > Floyd France of 131 Hussey Ave and Mrs. Maurice >> > (Pearl) Seaman of Wolverine; two stepdaughters, >> Mrs. >> > Robert (Delores) Suhre of Indianapolis, Ind., and >> Mrs >> > George (Gwendola) Hadley of Fort Wayne, Ind.; >> three >> > brothers, Harry Wiley of Indianapolis, Claude and >> John >> > Wiley of Florida, five grandchildren and nine >> > step-grandchildren. >> > >> > Perry's obituary is somewhat the same, but has >> some >> > major differences, like, oh, Etta's last name, and >> > when/where they were married: >> > >> > Perry E. Smith, 85, of 131 Hussey Ave., died early >> > this morning in a local hospital where he had been >> a >> > patient 11 days. Mr. Smith was born Sept. 19, >> 1879, >> > in Indianapolis, Ind., son of Jasper and Missouri >> > (LaMasters) Smith. After his first wife's death, >> he >> > later was married to Etta Pearl Lockhart, in 1933, >> in >> > Angola, Ind. She died May 21, 1964. Mr. Smith >> was >> > employed for many years by the former Advance >> Rumely >> > Co. here and then at the company's Ft. Wayne >> plant, >> > now owned by Allis Chalmers Co. He retired in >> 1945. >> > Mr. Smith was a life member of Bedford Lodge No. >> 207, >> > F&AM. Surviving are two daughters, Mrs. George >> > (Gwendola) Hadley of Ft. Wayne, and Mrs. Robert >> > (Doloras) Suhre of Garden Grove, Fla.; a >> > step-daughter, Mrs. Maurice (Pearl) Seaman of >> > Wolverine, Mich., a stepson, Floyd France of the >> > Hussey Avenue address. After his retirement, Mr. >> > Smith worked for Mr. France in the rug-cleaning >> > business known as VanDeusen Carpet Cleaners. Also >> > surviving are 10 grandchildren and nine >> > great-grandchildren. >> > >> > I guess I am hoping to find someone who can help >> shed >> > some light on who Etta was. If anyone knows any >> of >> > her children's family, perhaps they may have some >> > photos, maybe some papers . . . heck, maybe they >> are >> > trying to find the ancestors of Perry Smith!! >> > So please, if you can shed some light, it would be >> > most appreciated!! >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to MICALHOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you > with Yahoo Mobile. 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Did you check for city directories? They are usually yearly. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Cheryl To: micalhou@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [MICALHOU] Perry & Etta Smith; Floyd France; Seaman; Wiley;Ringer Did you see George and Gwendola Hadley living in Bluffton, Indiana in 1930? Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Family Historian" <afamhistorian@yahoo.com> To: <micalhou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [MICALHOU] Perry & Etta Smith; Floyd France; Seaman; Wiley;Ringer > Cheryl, > > Oh my gosh, I guess I hadn't thought they were in > Michigan yet in 1930. I got his SS application from > 1936, and it had him living in LaPorte, IN!! And he > remodeled his home in Indianapolis in 1926 from a > newspaper article I was able to find. I've never > found any marriages for he and Etta. I was told that > she was perhaps a neighbor of his in Indianapolis, but > of course, no Etta to be found in 1920 anywhere nearby > his home. However, even though they changed all the > last names to Smith, I'm sure the children's first > names are probably accurate. Now I will go back to > Indianapolis and look for them that way in the census. > > > I'm just dizzy with all this new information!! Thanks > so much!! > > Barb > --- Cheryl <cheryl@waterman.net> wrote: > >> Barb, >> >> My first question to you would be, "Are you a member >> of Ancestry?" If not, >> then I wonder if you have looked in any of the >> census records. That's where >> I would start. >> >> I find Perry E. Smith, 44, and wife Etta P., 39, in >> District 36 of Bedford >> Township, Calhoun County, Michigan in the 1930 >> census. In that census it >> does not say how long they were married---only how >> old they were when they >> FIRST got married (not necessarily to each other). >> This census says that >> Perry was married first at 21, and has an unknown >> mark to Etta. >> >> BOTH are listed as having been born in Kentucky >> along with ALL parents. >> >> He is a machinist working in a machine shop, owns >> his house, worth about >> $4000 and has a radio. >> >> Two children are living with them. There is no >> indication of any "step" but >> they have the last name of Smith. They are "Junior >> F.", 18 years old, born >> in OHIO, and Pearl F., 15 years old and born in >> INDIANA. >> >> I'll look and see if I see them in any other >> records, and I'm sure other >> people might help you look too. >> >> Cheryl >> >> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:50 PM >> Subject: [MICALHOU] Perry & Etta Smith; Floyd >> France; Seaman; Wiley; Ringer >> > I'm new to the list, and hoping you can help me. >> >> "Perry >> > Smith" was my grandfather. "Etta" was the love of >> his >> > life. They lived in Battle Creek, and passed away >> in >> > 1964 & 1965. Their obituaries mention her >> children >> > from a former marriage. Following is Etta's >> obituary: >> > >> > Mrs. Etta P.[Pearl] Smith, 71, wife of Perry E. >> Smith >> > of 28 Sylvan Drive, died unexpectedly this morning >> at >> > the residence. She was found dead, lying on a >> > davenport in the living room, by her husband at >> about >> > 8 a.m. She had been under treatment by a >> physician >> > for high blood pressure but had not appeared >> > critically ill. She was born March 8, 1893, at >> > Cleveland, Ohio, a daughter of William and >> Florence >> > (Ringer) Wiley, and had been a Battle Creek >> resident >> > since 1925. She and Mr. Smith were married Sept. >> 28, >> > 1925. She was a member of Bedford Chapter, OES. >> Her >> > survivors include two children by a previous >> marriage, >> > Floyd France of 131 Hussey Ave and Mrs. Maurice >> > (Pearl) Seaman of Wolverine; two stepdaughters, >> Mrs. >> > Robert (Delores) Suhre of Indianapolis, Ind., and >> Mrs >> > George (Gwendola) Hadley of Fort Wayne, Ind.; >> three >> > brothers, Harry Wiley of Indianapolis, Claude and >> John >> > Wiley of Florida, five grandchildren and nine >> > step-grandchildren. >> > >> > Perry's obituary is somewhat the same, but has >> some >> > major differences, like, oh, Etta's last name, and >> > when/where they were married: >> > >> > Perry E. Smith, 85, of 131 Hussey Ave., died early >> > this morning in a local hospital where he had been >> a >> > patient 11 days. Mr. Smith was born Sept. 19, >> 1879, >> > in Indianapolis, Ind., son of Jasper and Missouri >> > (LaMasters) Smith. After his first wife's death, >> he >> > later was married to Etta Pearl Lockhart, in 1933, >> in >> > Angola, Ind. She died May 21, 1964. Mr. Smith >> was >> > employed for many years by the former Advance >> Rumely >> > Co. here and then at the company's Ft. Wayne >> plant, >> > now owned by Allis Chalmers Co. He retired in >> 1945. >> > Mr. Smith was a life member of Bedford Lodge No. >> 207, >> > F&AM. Surviving are two daughters, Mrs. George >> > (Gwendola) Hadley of Ft. Wayne, and Mrs. Robert >> > (Doloras) Suhre of Garden Grove, Fla.; a >> > step-daughter, Mrs. Maurice (Pearl) Seaman of >> > Wolverine, Mich., a stepson, Floyd France of the >> > Hussey Avenue address. After his retirement, Mr. >> > Smith worked for Mr. France in the rug-cleaning >> > business known as VanDeusen Carpet Cleaners. Also >> > surviving are 10 grandchildren and nine >> > great-grandchildren. >> > >> > I guess I am hoping to find someone who can help >> shed >> > some light on who Etta was. If anyone knows any >> of >> > her children's family, perhaps they may have some >> > photos, maybe some papers . . . heck, maybe they >> are >> > trying to find the ancestors of Perry Smith!! >> > So please, if you can shed some light, it would be >> > most appreciated!! >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to MICALHOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you > with Yahoo Mobile. 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