Barb, My first question to you would be, "Are you a member of Ancestry?" If not, then I wonder if you have looked in any of the census records. That's where I would start. I find Perry E. Smith, 44, and wife Etta P., 39, in District 36 of Bedford Township, Calhoun County, Michigan in the 1930 census. In that census it does not say how long they were married---only how old they were when they FIRST got married (not necessarily to each other). This census says that Perry was married first at 21, and has an unknown mark to Etta. BOTH are listed as having been born in Kentucky along with ALL parents. He is a machinist working in a machine shop, owns his house, worth about $4000 and has a radio. Two children are living with them. There is no indication of any "step" but they have the last name of Smith. They are "Junior F.", 18 years old, born in OHIO, and Pearl F., 15 years old and born in INDIANA. I'll look and see if I see them in any other records, and I'm sure other people might help you look too. Cheryl Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: [MICALHOU] Perry & Etta Smith; Floyd France; Seaman; Wiley; Ringer > I'm new to the list, and hoping you can help me. "Perry > Smith" was my grandfather. "Etta" was the love of his > life. They lived in Battle Creek, and passed away in > 1964 & 1965. Their obituaries mention her children > from a former marriage. Following is Etta's obituary: > > Mrs. Etta P.[Pearl] Smith, 71, wife of Perry E. Smith > of 28 Sylvan Drive, died unexpectedly this morning at > the residence. She was found dead, lying on a > davenport in the living room, by her husband at about > 8 a.m. She had been under treatment by a physician > for high blood pressure but had not appeared > critically ill. She was born March 8, 1893, at > Cleveland, Ohio, a daughter of William and Florence > (Ringer) Wiley, and had been a Battle Creek resident > since 1925. She and Mr. Smith were married Sept. 28, > 1925. She was a member of Bedford Chapter, OES. Her > survivors include two children by a previous marriage, > Floyd France of 131 Hussey Ave and Mrs. Maurice > (Pearl) Seaman of Wolverine; two stepdaughters, Mrs. > Robert (Delores) Suhre of Indianapolis, Ind., and Mrs > George (Gwendola) Hadley of Fort Wayne, Ind.; three > brothers, Harry Wiley of Indianapolis, Claude and John > Wiley of Florida, five grandchildren and nine > step-grandchildren. > > Perry's obituary is somewhat the same, but has some > major differences, like, oh, Etta's last name, and > when/where they were married: > > Perry E. Smith, 85, of 131 Hussey Ave., died early > this morning in a local hospital where he had been a > patient 11 days. Mr. Smith was born Sept. 19, 1879, > in Indianapolis, Ind., son of Jasper and Missouri > (LaMasters) Smith. After his first wife's death, he > later was married to Etta Pearl Lockhart, in 1933, in > Angola, Ind. She died May 21, 1964. Mr. Smith was > employed for many years by the former Advance Rumely > Co. here and then at the company's Ft. Wayne plant, > now owned by Allis Chalmers Co. He retired in 1945. > Mr. Smith was a life member of Bedford Lodge No. 207, > F&AM. Surviving are two daughters, Mrs. George > (Gwendola) Hadley of Ft. Wayne, and Mrs. Robert > (Doloras) Suhre of Garden Grove, Fla.; a > step-daughter, Mrs. Maurice (Pearl) Seaman of > Wolverine, Mich., a stepson, Floyd France of the > Hussey Avenue address. After his retirement, Mr. > Smith worked for Mr. France in the rug-cleaning > business known as VanDeusen Carpet Cleaners. Also > surviving are 10 grandchildren and nine > great-grandchildren. > > I guess I am hoping to find someone who can help shed > some light on who Etta was. If anyone knows any of > her children's family, perhaps they may have some > photos, maybe some papers . . . heck, maybe they are > trying to find the ancestors of Perry Smith!! > So please, if you can shed some light, it would be > most appreciated!! >

Cheryl, Oh my gosh, I guess I hadn't thought they were in Michigan yet in 1930. I got his SS application from 1936, and it had him living in LaPorte, IN!! And he remodeled his home in Indianapolis in 1926 from a newspaper article I was able to find. I've never found any marriages for he and Etta. I was told that she was perhaps a neighbor of his in Indianapolis, but of course, no Etta to be found in 1920 anywhere nearby his home. However, even though they changed all the last names to Smith, I'm sure the children's first names are probably accurate. Now I will go back to Indianapolis and look for them that way in the census. I'm just dizzy with all this new information!! Thanks so much!! Barb --- Cheryl <cheryl@waterman.net> wrote: > Barb, > > My first question to you would be, "Are you a member > of Ancestry?" If not, > then I wonder if you have looked in any of the > census records. That's where > I would start. > > I find Perry E. Smith, 44, and wife Etta P., 39, in > District 36 of Bedford > Township, Calhoun County, Michigan in the 1930 > census. In that census it > does not say how long they were married---only how > old they were when they > FIRST got married (not necessarily to each other). > This census says that > Perry was married first at 21, and has an unknown > mark to Etta. > > BOTH are listed as having been born in Kentucky > along with ALL parents. > > He is a machinist working in a machine shop, owns > his house, worth about > $4000 and has a radio. > > Two children are living with them. There is no > indication of any "step" but > they have the last name of Smith. They are "Junior > F.", 18 years old, born > in OHIO, and Pearl F., 15 years old and born in > INDIANA. > > I'll look and see if I see them in any other > records, and I'm sure other > people might help you look too. > > Cheryl > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:50 PM > Subject: [MICALHOU] Perry & Etta Smith; Floyd > France; Seaman; Wiley; Ringer > > I'm new to the list, and hoping you can help me. > > "Perry > > Smith" was my grandfather. "Etta" was the love of > his > > life. They lived in Battle Creek, and passed away > in > > 1964 & 1965. Their obituaries mention her > children > > from a former marriage. Following is Etta's > obituary: > > > > Mrs. Etta P.[Pearl] Smith, 71, wife of Perry E. > Smith > > of 28 Sylvan Drive, died unexpectedly this morning > at > > the residence. She was found dead, lying on a > > davenport in the living room, by her husband at > about > > 8 a.m. She had been under treatment by a > physician > > for high blood pressure but had not appeared > > critically ill. She was born March 8, 1893, at > > Cleveland, Ohio, a daughter of William and > Florence > > (Ringer) Wiley, and had been a Battle Creek > resident > > since 1925. She and Mr. Smith were married Sept. > 28, > > 1925. She was a member of Bedford Chapter, OES. > Her > > survivors include two children by a previous > marriage, > > Floyd France of 131 Hussey Ave and Mrs. Maurice > > (Pearl) Seaman of Wolverine; two stepdaughters, > Mrs. > > Robert (Delores) Suhre of Indianapolis, Ind., and > Mrs > > George (Gwendola) Hadley of Fort Wayne, Ind.; > three > > brothers, Harry Wiley of Indianapolis, Claude and > John > > Wiley of Florida, five grandchildren and nine > > step-grandchildren. > > > > Perry's obituary is somewhat the same, but has > some > > major differences, like, oh, Etta's last name, and > > when/where they were married: > > > > Perry E. Smith, 85, of 131 Hussey Ave., died early > > this morning in a local hospital where he had been > a > > patient 11 days. Mr. Smith was born Sept. 19, > 1879, > > in Indianapolis, Ind., son of Jasper and Missouri > > (LaMasters) Smith. After his first wife's death, > he > > later was married to Etta Pearl Lockhart, in 1933, > in > > Angola, Ind. She died May 21, 1964. Mr. Smith > was > > employed for many years by the former Advance > Rumely > > Co. here and then at the company's Ft. Wayne > plant, > > now owned by Allis Chalmers Co. He retired in > 1945. > > Mr. Smith was a life member of Bedford Lodge No. > 207, > > F&AM. Surviving are two daughters, Mrs. George > > (Gwendola) Hadley of Ft. Wayne, and Mrs. Robert > > (Doloras) Suhre of Garden Grove, Fla.; a > > step-daughter, Mrs. Maurice (Pearl) Seaman of > > Wolverine, Mich., a stepson, Floyd France of the > > Hussey Avenue address. After his retirement, Mr. > > Smith worked for Mr. France in the rug-cleaning > > business known as VanDeusen Carpet Cleaners. Also > > surviving are 10 grandchildren and nine > > great-grandchildren. > > > > I guess I am hoping to find someone who can help > shed > > some light on who Etta was. If anyone knows any > of > > her children's family, perhaps they may have some > > photos, maybe some papers . . . heck, maybe they > are > > trying to find the ancestors of Perry Smith!! > > So please, if you can shed some light, it would be > > most appreciated!! > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to MICALHOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ