This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Georgia1910 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/1384.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On the transcribed 1894 State census for Bay City Michigan there is an Andrew Rubis (33) born in Poland with wife Mary (34) and children Mary (6), Vincent (4) and Telegia (sic) age 2. There is also a Wetrzykawski family. If you live in Michigan, you probably can order the census through your local library from the State Library of Michigan (LOM) or visit the LOM in Lansing. The 1910 US census for Bay City shows that Andrew and Maryanna have been married for 26 years and she had 8 children, six of whom are still living. You could get a death certificate for her and if the informant knew the information, it should have her parents' names on it. Or a marriage license might have the parents' names. Sometimes they don't or they only have the father's name. Or if Catholic, you could see if there was a Catholic church in the area that had a predominantly Polish congregation. Bay City is in the Saginaw Diocese: http://saginaw.org/parishes When you say that you have run into road blocks, do you mean that you cannot find the information or that family members will not help? Have you started with your parents and worked back to your grandparents, then there parents and checked the collateral relatives. Sometimes, you have to you at every great aunt and uncle until you find the information that will connect you to a specific person. Do you have death records and obits for people? Checked probate and land records? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.