In the Michigan Marriage Index Database we have the following record: ANTONINS - SMARZYNSKI m JOSEFA - MERKIEL in BAY cnty 14 JAN 1878 If related we would like to add your email address to the record as a reference for other researcher. Jack & Marianne Dibean - Lansing Michigan GenWeb Archives: http://usgwarchives.org/marriages/michigan/michigan.htm Email Address: jackdibean@modempool.com WWII Memorial: www.wwiimemorial.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <MIBAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [MIBAY] MERKIEL early marriage > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: ttorongo2788 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/1567.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi, I read your posting about the marriage of Antonio and Josepha Merkiel > in Bay City in 1878. I believe that Josepha was my great grandmother, but > she was widowed in 1875 and married Antonio Smarzynski in 1878. My mother > told me that their were twin boys and another daughter. They left Gaylord > Michigan and moved to Chicago. I a have seen many different spellings for > the last name. I haven't been able to sort it all out. > M. Torongo > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIBAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 12/5/2008 > 7:08 PM >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ttorongo2788 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/1567.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I read your posting about the marriage of Antonio and Josepha Merkiel in Bay City in 1878. I believe that Josepha was my great grandmother, but she was widowed in 1875 and married Antonio Smarzynski in 1878. My mother told me that their were twin boys and another daughter. They left Gaylord Michigan and moved to Chicago. I a have seen many different spellings for the last name. I haven't been able to sort it all out. M. Torongo Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mlrose52 Surnames: TWORK nee WILSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/4559.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your reply. I look forward to receiving any information you may be able to find for me. Kind regards Margaret Rose nee WILSON Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryFreel Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/4559.1.1.1.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Margaret, this is Mary K from RAOGK. I will check the obits for Christina and Andrew and see if I can locate any further relatives for you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maggie3005 Surnames: ANDERSEN ANDERSON JENSEN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/786.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Just put this detail up again to remind me of the family tree My husband is the grandson of George born 1887 and it was only a few years ago that we discovered all the Norwegian link. I have also found descendents from Anna Andersen (bn 1882) and one of them is alive and well living in South Carolina! Let's hope that this is the connection we were looking for. Carl always wandered in and out of peoples lives and never ever let anyine know where he ws or whae would do next. He just stopped calling anyone around the mid 1920s after delivering some boots to the children of Thomas Andersen in Chicago. What do you think? My home E Mail if you want to get in touch directly is: andya13349@aol.com Let's hope this is it, in memory of your mum! Hope to hear from you soon Maggie Andersen nee Goodwin/Brand ------------------------------------------------------- Hi there, I too, am looking for Carl Anderson (Andersen). He was born, I think, 30 Nov 1884 in Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland, the son of John (Johannes) Andersen (Anderson) and Marie Jensen.John and Marie were both from Haugasund, Rogaland, Norway and moved to Scotland between 1882-1884.The birth date for Carl I have from a World War 1 Draft Paper which put him in Seattle together with his brother Thomas. There were 5 children born to Johannes and Marie, Annetta 1877, Anna 1882, Carl 1884, Georg 1887 & Thomas 1890. Annetta married and moved to The Faroe Islands. Anna married and moved to Tacoma WA, Georg married and stayed in Edinburgh Scotland & Thomas married and lived in Chicago. We know that Carl went to USA because he used to turn up every so often at various relatives homes, stay for a while and then go with no-one knowing where he came from and where he was going. It would be good to solve this mystery! Hope to hear from you soon Regards Maggie Andersen andya13349@aol.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pattydresser51 Surnames: Andersen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/786.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Believe it or not -- I just received this message... I'm still searching for Carl Andersen and have no idea if "Your Carl" is the same one. However -- the year of birth is about right. Have you any news after so many years? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DEE SAGER Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/4559.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Morning Margaret, Although at your house it is afternoon. 10:20 am here. I am happy to help where I can. LOTS of Michigan info is on the LDS Pilot website. They are also adding the 1916 Canadian Census supposedly sometime after Dec 3rd. That's only two more days. Supposed to be finished indexing it then. Probably take a couple of days to get it online. Should help a lot of people. If I can help with anything else, please feel free to ask. I'm trying to finalize what I know about my Wilson Family and get it into a book. Didn't think I could get tired of genealogy, but I've been working on the Wilson's since 1989 and it's time to get them finished up. A younger generation genealogist can finish up what I don't have. Good luck on your continued research. Feel free to contact me at my personal email address: dsager@hughes.net Dee Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mlrose52 Surnames: TWORK Christina Jessie nee WILSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/4559.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi there Dee. Just wanted to thank you for your help and interest in my query. If we have a connection, you and I, then I have yet to research back to late 1700's, although I think my WILSON family were in Scotland rather than England then. Thanks for the phone number for N C Twork, I will try to contact her, I have to remember though that we are 5/6 hours ahead of USA. She may be a link to my family. Thanks again, kind regards Margaret Rose nee WILSON. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DEE SAGER Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/4559.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You're welcome. Glad I could help. >From the info you have given, William Wilson was a brother to Harry. There was a William Wilson in Bay County, Michigan and I thought it might be YOUR William Wilson. Yes, my maiden name is Wilson. IF we are related, from what I can figure, it would be 8 or so generations ago. My Wilson was born aboard ship coming from England (I believe) in 1791 to the USA. He married and had two children in the USA and then moved to Ontario, Canada about 1824 or so and the rest of his 12 kids were born there. Three of his boys moved back to the States and ended up in Michigan, two in Lapeer County and my G-G-grandfather in Sanilac and then Bay County. None of your names match any of my family. The phone number 989-879-6979 is good and is for a N.C. Twork, aka: Nancy Twork. A little more info: if you Google this lady, you find she has a business called D & M Housemoving and the phone number you have 6979 shows as a fax number. It gives another number 989-879-6340 as her phone number. Address is the same as what you have. I looked at Harry Wilson's border crossing from Ontario in Detroit in 1922 and found info about his brother William still in Galt who lived at 25 Beverly Street. There was a Wilson Family who crossed at the same time: William, his wife Helen, and two children. I thought they might be connected, but guess not. Their relative was Jessie Cummings in Kirton, Scotland. Valerie could be a sister-in-law. A sister to Andrew. I didn't search further. I've previously found the 1928 Detroit City Directory online. Can't find the web address for it right now. Maybe someone else can help on that. Good luck in your search. Hope I've helped a little. Dee Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mlrose52 Surnames: TWORK - WILSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/4559.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi there Dee, thanks so much for your reply. Thank you for all the info re dates of birth and death etc. The date of birth for Christina is correct as per her birth ceritificate.She was my great aunt sister to Harry WILSON who I knew nothing about until approx 2 years ago and my searching has brought me to Michigan USA. Who is William Wilson that you mention, are you a WILSON also? Do we have a connection here maybe? Yes Harry WILSON, my grandfather, was born 10 Dec 1898 in Aberchirder Banffshire Scotland. Yes he arrived MI Jan 1922 and yes his brother William was in Galt Ontario at the time. By 1930 both brothers lived in Detroit as roomers on Infantry (I have copy of that census. Both unmarried and driving for or working for Ford Motor Co. I have copy obituary for William (Died Oct 24 1973) and copy death certificate for Harry obtained for me by a researcher in Detroit. Harry never married. Re a sister Jessie Cummings - I have not discovered a sister by that name, the only sister I am aware of living in Scotland was Isabella Young nee Wilson as per William's obituary which states a Mrs Isobella Young living in Scotland, no place name given. She married a James Young on Nov 28 Nov 1918 in Aberchider Banffshire Scotland. I am not aware of Christina having a sister called Valerie either, could she have been a sister in law maybe? I would love to be able to make contact with the family of Christina and Andrew Tworck - Twork, assuming of course they did have a family. Someone else gave me a phone number of N C Twork, 719 Oakwood Pinconning MI, 989 879 6979. Is this number still correct for the named person? Would you be able to check it for me, this may be a person I need to speak to. Living in England makes it very difficult for me to see directories etc. I guess I have asked you a lot of questions but any help you can give me will be really appreciated. Happy Thanksgiving. Kind regards Margaret Rose nee WILSON Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi there Dee, thanks so much for your reply. Thank you for all the info re dates of birth and death etc. The date of birth for Christina is correct as per her birth ceritificate.She was my great aunt sister to Harry WILSON who I knew nothing about until approx 2 years ago and my searching has brought me to Michigan USA. Who is William Wilson that you mention, are you a WILSON also? Do we have a connection here maybe? Yes Harry WILSON, my grandfather, was born 10 Dec 1898 in Aberchirder Banffshire Scotland. Yes he arrived MI Jan 1922 and yes his brother William was in Galt Ontario at the time. By 1930 both brothers lived in Detroit as roomers on Infantry (I have copy of that census. Both unmarried and driving for or working for Ford Motor Co. I have copy obituary for William (Died Oct 24 1973) and copy death certificate for Harry obtained for me by a researcher in Detroit. Harry never married. Re a sister Jessie Cummings - I have not discovered a sister by that name, the only sister I am aware of living in Scotland was Isabella Young nee Wilson as per William's obituary which states a Mrs Isobella Young living in Scotland, no place name given. She married a James Young on Nov 28 Nov 1918 in Aberchider Banffshire Scotland. I am not aware of Christina having a sister called Valerie either, could she have been a sister in law maybe? I would love to be able to make contact with the family of Christina and Andrew Tworck - Twork, assuming of course they did have a family. Someone else gave me a phone number of N C Twork, 719 Oakwood Pinconning MI, 989 879 6979. Is this number still correct for the named person? Would you be able to check it for me, this may be a person I need to speak to. Living in England makes it very difficult for me to see directories etc. I guess I have asked you a lot of questions but any help you can give me will be really appreciated. Happy Thanksgiving. Kind regards Margaret Rose nee WILSON ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <MIBAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [MIBAY] Christina Jessie TWORK nee Wilson > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: DEE SAGER > Surnames: Wilson, Twork > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/4559.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hello Margaret, > > Border Crossing Listing from Canada to USA: arrived in Detroit March > 1923 - alone. > > Michigan Deaths 1971-1996 Listing: died 8 December 1993 in Warren, Macomb > County, Michigan. > > Spouse: Michigan Deaths 1971-1996 Listing: Andrew M. Twork, born 5 April > 1995, died 21 December 1985 in Bay City, Bay County, Michigan, residence > Pinconning. > > Please Note: > > Michigan death certificates have an entry giving the name and address of > the person who gives the information for the death certificate - usually a > relative, sometimes a close friend. Therefore I would suggest getting the > death certificate for Christina. > > I found neither Andrew nor Christina on the social security death index > telling me that neither drew SS retirement. A possibility therefore, > would be that he worked where they had their own retirement fund and did > not pay into SS. That could be a government job or a teacher. > Possibility others, but those are what come to mind. I would suggest > getting his death certificate and see what it says about his occupation. > > ALSO - seems like there is another spelling of Twork. I tried Tvork, but > nothing there. I can almost picture it and remember my Dad talking aboout > people with this last name. They are probably on the 1930 census under > another spelling of their name. Try checking the Detroit city directories > and see what you find. Those are a good source of info on who lived > there. If they married in Detroit, chances are they lived there for at > least some time before moving to Bay County. William Wilson (Farmer)lived > not too far from my Wilson family. Dad said they were not related. > > Was Harry born abt 1899? Would he have arrive in MI about 1922? Would > his brother William still have been in Galt, Ontario? Did he have a > sister named Jessie Cummings in Kirton, Scotland? > > Finding another member of the family on the 1930 census will possibly find > Christina. > > Hope this helps. > > Dee > dsager@hughes,net > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIBAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DEE SAGER Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/4559.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Name: Andrew Tworck SSN: 385-18-4938 Last Residence: 48650 Pinconning, Bay, Michigan, United States of America Born: 5 Apr 1894 Died: Dec 1985 State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan (Before 1951) Thought this was a different guy until I looked at the similar dates. One year off on the birth date. But same death date. SO HE DID DRAW SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREMENT. Name: Christina J. Tworck SSN: 362-68-4617 Last Residence: 48089 Warren, Macomb, Michigan, United States of America Born: 20 Sep 1904 Died: 8 Dec 1993 State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan (1973) She must have had family in Warren, MI in order to move back there after andrew died. Did Christina have a sister named Valeria/Valerie born in 1909? Dee dsager@hughes.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DEE SAGER Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/4559.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry!! that birth date for Andrew should read 5 April 1895. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DEE SAGER Surnames: Wilson, Twork Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/4559.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Margaret, Border Crossing Listing from Canada to USA: arrived in Detroit March 1923 - alone. Michigan Deaths 1971-1996 Listing: died 8 December 1993 in Warren, Macomb County, Michigan. Spouse: Michigan Deaths 1971-1996 Listing: Andrew M. Twork, born 5 April 1995, died 21 December 1985 in Bay City, Bay County, Michigan, residence Pinconning. Please Note: Michigan death certificates have an entry giving the name and address of the person who gives the information for the death certificate - usually a relative, sometimes a close friend. Therefore I would suggest getting the death certificate for Christina. I found neither Andrew nor Christina on the social security death index telling me that neither drew SS retirement. A possibility therefore, would be that he worked where they had their own retirement fund and did not pay into SS. That could be a government job or a teacher. Possibility others, but those are what come to mind. I would suggest getting his death certificate and see what it says about his occupation. ALSO - seems like there is another spelling of Twork. I tried Tvork, but nothing there. I can almost picture it and remember my Dad talking aboout people with this last name. They are probably on the 1930 census under another spelling of their name. Try checking the Detroit city directories and see what you find. Those are a good source of info on who lived there. If they married in Detroit, chances are they lived there for at least some time before moving to Bay County. William Wilson (Farmer)lived not too far from my Wilson family. Dad said they were not related. Was Harry born abt 1899? Would he have arrive in MI about 1922? Would his brother William still have been in Galt, Ontario? Did he have a sister named Jessie Cummings in Kirton, Scotland? Finding another member of the family on the 1930 census will possibly find Christina. Hope this helps. Dee dsager@hughes,net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mlrose52 Surnames: TWORK nee WILSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/4559.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your reply about my great aunt who I knew nothing about until approx 3 weeks ago. I was hoping to learn more about her and her family from the 1930 census wherever she was living at the time. She married Dec 15 1923 Detroit, Wayne Co, all I do know is that she was at Pinconning in 1973, as per orbituary about her older brother. I asked for the SS number as every little bit of information helps when tracing an ancestor. I would really like to be able to trace any family she had, she may be my only link in my family research about the WILSON family who emmigrated to USA/Canada back in 1920's. Any help you can give me would be appreciated such as her immigration into USA from Canada. I suspect she arrived from Glasgow Scotland at Montreal or Halifax Canada about 1920 approx before crossing to USA before Dec 1923 when when got married. Many thanks, Kind regards Margaret Rose nee WILSON Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasKer2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/4559.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to this person. Source - SSDI CHRISTINA J TWORCK <<< note spelling b. 20 Sep 1904 08 d. Dec 1993 (Warren, Macomb, MI 48089) CHRISTINA J TWORCK does not appear on any US census in 1930. 1930 is the last available census at this time. Why do you want her SS number ? ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: amidd67 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/1518.2.3.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a Pfund/Pfundt family tree at Ancestry.com with George Albert Pfund's Great Grandparents. If you would like to view it, please send me your email, and I will invite you. amidd67@chartermi.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: amidd67 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/1518.2.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cousin, Please email me at amidd67@chartermi.net. I would like to exchange information with you. I have a large Pfund/Pfundt family tree at Ancestry.com. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bgurnee9896 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/1518.2.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It's Rosie and they were my grandparents. My mom was Martha:) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: amidd67 Surnames: Beiser, Pfundt Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.bay/1518.2.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: How are they related to George Beiser and Rosina Pfundt? Are they your great grandparents? I think I know you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.