Then, lots of respect you shall have, Kathy! <*grin*> By the way ... I see VANDERHOOF in your signature line. I have no idea how (un)common the name might be but ... there is a town just North & West of here, in British Columbia, Canada, named ... (drumroll, please) ... BUM-bada-DUM ... Vanderhoof! (AKA, in the general vicinity, as "Hooterville".) Cheers - Al