And now, after this message with incorrect spelling, incorrect punctuation, incorrect capitalization, and incorrect grammar, I will unsubscribe. Bye. -----Original Message----- From: JeanPayton [mailto:jeanpayton@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:12 PM To: MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] Proper use of subject line and private e-mails. Well I think that this was just a little bit too harsh. Ye, there is netiquette to be followed and very few of any of us follow it. Yes, it is rude to keep the same subject title, but when there is someone new it should be up to every one to help out the newbie. Did you have someone teach you netiquette before you got on the list? Not eveyone has this opportunity to pay someone to teach them how to use the internet and these lists. Although I will say that the first list a person who is new should signup on the GEN-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com. This is a list for newcomers. But what is wrong about being kind and considerate of our new comers? As to asking questions, they should all be asked on list and answered on list as there is problably more than one person wanting the answer to the question. That is the most important way to learn how to research and learn techniques and the how and the whys of genealogy. To ask your questions off list is not benefitting anyone. Yes it is correct netiquette to change the line of Subject when you are talking about someone or something else, but hey wait a minute, we are all human beings on this list and we all deserve to be treated with respect and kindness. We are not as perfect as we seem to think we are. We all make mistakes in judgement and don't do what everyone else thinks we should be doing. I am glad that I don't consider myself the perfect person who knows all about netiquette and how everything should be done. When Joyce wrote in all capital letters, she tried explaining why she was doing what she was doing. She didn't know about the capital letters being considered shouting. It would have been much nicer for someone to write her off list and tell what the netiquette was concerning capital letters and try to help her enlarge her fonts instead of every one yelling at her. Everyone was too quick to jump on her and not offer any type of help. So listers, we all need to be considerate of each other and give respect to each other and try and be more accepting of people who are new to the list. You should be the first person to speak up and help a newbie. That will make this list run much better and there will be less mistakes made and on going hype over it. I have been on these lists for a good many years and it makes me feel good to be able to help someone who is new to computers and to genealogy. After all it took a while for you and for me to learn all of the ins and outs of Computers and Genealogy and how to put both to good use on these lists. So if anyone has a question that needs answering, I most certainly read all emails irregardless of the subject matter and I try to help the newbie and even the experienced oldies just give me a shout and I will do my best to help you. That is what these lists are all about. Not just names and dates. Helping each other!!! Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "aardq" <aardq@usol.com> To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: [MI-Genealogy] Proper use of subject line and private e-mails. > > > Hello everyone, > > I for one, am sick and tired about all the e-mails about this woman's > lack of knowledge on e-mail etiquette. A couple of e-mails is one > thing, but a lot of people insist on beating this dead horse. ENOUGH! > (and that is shouting!) > > Now on to the subject of this e-mail, which is subject lines. It's > there so that the rest of us know what the e-mail is about. When you > change the topic or the name of the person being researched, then > please have the common courtesy to place e the new info into the > subject line. Today day alone I have received over a dozen e-mail with > the subject, "Looking for help with Barnes". Not one of those e-mail > had anything to do with Barnes, or for that matter, any kind of > search. They were all about the use of capitols in e-mails. > > It's both frustrating and a waste of time (on the part of a lot of > people) to keep repeating the same subject over and over and over. > When you do this, you are misleading the people that may actually want > to help with research instead of talking about the manners or kindness > of other people. By doing this, you show your lack of consideration > for the hundreds (or thousands) of people that receive these e-mails. > Please, put the correct subject matter in the subject line. > > If you wish to ask a specific person a question, or thank a specific > person, then please do so, but do it in a private e-mail, not in a > general posting to the forum. Again you being inconsiderate of the > others on the forum, and you create a lot of extra e-mails for others > to deal with. > > It's true that a lot of people on forum are not computer geeks, and > now one holds that against them, but they should be able to find > someone to teach them the basics. If you're not a cook, would you try > to make a cake without asking someone, or getting the info out of a > cookbook? Then why would you start using forums and e-mail without > learning the basics? > > It all boils down to having consideration for the others in the > forums. > > Dan > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > MIGenWeb. 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