Hi Susan   I had someone email me that Eli's death certificate was on Seeking Michigan...   but i've lost that email....i tried to save in my genealogy folder.......   I am also looking for grtgrndmothers death certificate....don't know when she passed...i last have her on the 1920 census with Jacob Clark....   could you send me that site....   i'm in AZ now so can't make the trip over to the Library...   thanks   Patsy   oh   grtgrndfather.....Eli A. Rhyndress grtgrndmother....Sarah Jane Backhouse Rhyndress  Foote --- On Fri, 5/8/09, SCIGSC@aol.com <SCIGSC@aol.com> wrote: From: SCIGSC@aol.com <SCIGSC@aol.com> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Re Seeking Michigan site To: mi-genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 9:06 PM Dear Michigan Genealogist: If anyone else is having problems with Seeking Michigan  site e-mail me and I will help you adjust the search  criteria Susan _SCIGSC@aol.com_ (mailto:SCIGSC@aol.com) In a message dated 5/8/2009 10:00:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight  Time, jmb32@iserv.net writes: I learned of the "seeking Michigan" site thru this list.  I've had some success in getting death records and want to thank  you for leading me to this site. I do have a problem, perhaps someone can help me.    I am researching a surname that is the same as a Michigan county  name.  How can I search that name without getting the names of everyone  who is listed in the county ?  Thanks   June **************Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006) ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear John, I live in Osceola county, Michigan. An not sure where Park Lake is at but I only live a few miles from Marion and if you would like I could see if I could find her grave and take pics for you. McBain is also not very far from me. Maybe about eight miles or so. McBain is also in another county, Missaukee county but the counties are so close that she could have live in the McBain area and close to Marion. Let me know if I can help you out any. I will be glad to do it because everyone on the sites have been so good to me that I am so glad to help someone out. Vivian ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Long" <longjohn144@gmail.com> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] George Washington Karin, You are right. The Lydia, in the Pilot Site, is my grandmother. She died 20 yrs prior to my birth. I never knew her. She was born to a well known Parks family in Saginaw on 10 Mar 1867. At age 17 (and 20 days), on 30 Mar 1884, she married George Washington Long, age 26. In the 1900 US Census for Reeder Twp, Missaukee Co, MI it is recorded that Geo is 49, born in Canada. Imm to US 1869. Father born in England; mother, Canada. (Note: this is an error. Agnes Armet, was born in Ireland, imm to Canada). Unless, Madam Armet is not my great granny… horrors for the thought. Lydia’s middle name was Fluellen. Quite unique and individualistic. During this marriage, she gave birth to 7. My aunts and dad… all b. in MI. Maggie was really Margaret Maude, b. 20 Mar 1886. Jennie Agnes, b. 24 Sep 1887. Lola Belle, b. 14 Jun 1889. Bertha Doris, b. 31 Jul 1891. John Emmett (my father), b. 5 Sep 1893. Then there’s my aunt Lizzie… the mysterious one. I have failed to find anything abt her. She is in a family portrait I possess… made ca 1886. But she is not in the 1900 census with the other family members. An elderly cousin of mine sez… she married twice… not sure of their names …but thinks the 1st was a Jones …had 2 dau… a Ruth and a Ruby. She thinks the 2nd was a Warner or Werner …and had 2 dau… Faye and June. Then 2 sons… Bobbie (surely it’s Robert) and Clare. I fail to find anything on Lizzie (maybe Elizabeth). Remains a mystery! After 15 yrs, 7 mos, on 18 Oct 1899, Lydia and Geo filed for divorce…granted in 1901. Lydia then married, at age 36, a Michael Ward. I found 2 dates for this 2nd marriage. On 11 (or on 27) Apr 1903 in Park Lake, Osceola Co, MI (witnesses were Harriet Sheldon and Emma DuRoy). Michael Ward was 25, born 1878 in Canada. His parents were Michael Ward and Catherine Linch (could it be Lynch?). Michael and Lydia Fluellen Parks Long Ward lived in McBain, MI …until her death 6 mos later on 28 Sep (or 9 Oct) 1903 at the age of 36 yrs…from uremia poisoning. She is buried in Marion, Osceola Co. Cemetery? I don't know. All this, I have filed under BAD Info… best available data …don't you know. Thank you for your input. John …the Jr Emmett of the Long Breed On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:15 PM, <ladypines@aol.com> wrote: > George and Lydia's marriage document is on the new Family Search Pilot > site - see below - unfortunately, it does not list the parents. > > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start > > Do you have any more info on this couple - when and where did they live, > or die - in Saginaw? > > Was Lydia previously married? How does the surname Fluellen fit in? > > What were the children's names? > > Have you located them on any censuses? > > The more details you can provide, the better we may be able to help you. > > > Karin > > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK..so to sum up...the thing you are searching for is the birth of George Washington Long, born abt March 1851 in Toronto; mother was Agnes Armet (could this possibly be ARNOTT). You do not know his father's name? George?married Lydia Fluellen Parks in Saginaw Mi in 1884. They divorced in 1901 Do you know if George was ever married before or after Lydia? Where was George's residence after the divorce? Do you know when he died? Or where? I have searched Ancestry & Family Search as well as some of the early Canadian census, but I dit not find any new info. Maybe if you could locate a death cert, it would help. I could search for you in Saginaw County if that is where he lived or died. Karin

On May 27, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Christie Rellinger wrote: > Pat, > I have found a birth record for Florence Irene Sanford, born August 8, > 1901 born in Lennox or Addington County, Ontario, Canada. > Father-William Ezra Sanford. Mother-Bertha Kelly. I can email this > to you if this something you need. > > Christie > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please > respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am looking for a newspaper article or obituary for the Long family. They died in a house fire in Midland County. The story or obits were published in the Midland Daily News on March 2, 1942. I have been to the Grace A. Dow Library in Midland and their microfilm did not have the first two days of the month. If someone could look at the state library for me, I would be very grateful. Thanks, Christie

Pat, Have found William, Bertha & Alice L. age 5 in the 1901 census of Canada, Ontario, Lennox county, Napanee. do you have access to ancestry.com? I can send this you directly. Christie

Pat, I have found a birth record for Florence Irene Sanford, born August 8, 1901 born in Lennox or Addington County, Ontario, Canada. Father-William Ezra Sanford. Mother-Bertha Kelly. I can email this to you if this something you need. Christie

Karin, You are right. The Lydia, in the Pilot Site, is my grandmother. She died 20 yrs prior to my birth. I never knew her. She was born to a well known Parks family in Saginaw on 10 Mar 1867. At age 17 (and 20 days), on 30 Mar 1884, she married George Washington Long, age 26. In the 1900 US Census for Reeder Twp, Missaukee Co, MI it is recorded that Geo is 49, born in Canada. Imm to US 1869. Father born in England; mother, Canada. (Note: this is an error. Agnes Armet, was born in Ireland, imm to Canada). Unless, Madam Armet is not my great granny… horrors for the thought. Lydia’s middle name was Fluellen. Quite unique and individualistic. During this marriage, she gave birth to 7. My aunts and dad… all b. in MI. Maggie was really Margaret Maude, b. 20 Mar 1886. Jennie Agnes, b. 24 Sep 1887. Lola Belle, b. 14 Jun 1889. Bertha Doris, b. 31 Jul 1891. John Emmett (my father), b. 5 Sep 1893. Then there’s my aunt Lizzie… the mysterious one. I have failed to find anything abt her. She is in a family portrait I possess… made ca 1886. But she is not in the 1900 census with the other family members. An elderly cousin of mine sez… she married twice… not sure of their names …but thinks the 1st was a Jones …had 2 dau… a Ruth and a Ruby. She thinks the 2nd was a Warner or Werner …and had 2 dau… Faye and June. Then 2 sons… Bobbie (surely it’s Robert) and Clare. I fail to find anything on Lizzie (maybe Elizabeth). Remains a mystery! After 15 yrs, 7 mos, on 18 Oct 1899, Lydia and Geo filed for divorce…granted in 1901. Lydia then married, at age 36, a Michael Ward. I found 2 dates for this 2nd marriage. On 11 (or on 27) Apr 1903 in Park Lake, Osceola Co, MI (witnesses were Harriet Sheldon and Emma DuRoy). Michael Ward was 25, born 1878 in Canada. His parents were Michael Ward and Catherine Linch (could it be Lynch?). Michael and Lydia Fluellen Parks Long Ward lived in McBain, MI …until her death 6 mos later on 28 Sep (or 9 Oct) 1903 at the age of 36 yrs…from uremia poisoning. She is buried in Marion, Osceola Co. Cemetery? I don't know. All this, I have filed under BAD Info… best available data …don't you know. Thank you for your input. John …the Jr Emmett of the Long Breed On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:15 PM, <ladypines@aol.com> wrote: > George and Lydia's marriage document is on the new Family Search Pilot site - see below - unfortunately, it does not list the parents. > > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start > > Do you have any more info on this couple - when and where did they live, or die - in Saginaw? > > Was Lydia previously married? How does the surname Fluellen fit in? > > What were the children's names? > > Have you located them on any censuses? > > The more details you can provide, the better we may be able to help you. > > > Karin > > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am trying to locate a Nora Burns in the 1910 and the 1930 census.  I found her in the 1920 census living with her parents William and Bertha Sanford and her children George, William, Harry and Grace.  I am mostly looking for info on her sister Florence Bolde and her daughter Lenora Bolde.  The 1920 census states the family was born in Canada.   I appreciate any help with this on.   Pat

George and Lydia's marriage document is on the new Family Search Pilot site - see below - unfortunately, it does not list the parents. http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start Do you have any more info on this couple - when and where did they live, or die - in Saginaw? Was Lydia previously married? How does the surname Fluellen fit in? What were the children's names? Have you located them on any censuses? The more details you can provide, the better we may be able to help you. Karin

John Saginaw will have a copy of the marriage. Do you need a the information copied from the marriage book? Bonnie -----Original Message----- From: PATSY <precious2842@yahoo.com> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 24 May 2009 3:41 pm Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] George Washington OOD LUCK.....and its the only way sometimes that you can find things is by sking.... atsy  --- On Sun, 5/24/09, John Long <longjohn144@gmail.com> wrote: rom: John Long <longjohn144@gmail.com> ubject: [MI-GENEALOGY] George Washington o: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com, "Bonnie Ostler" <bjrgen@sympatico.ca>, "Barbara reene" <zippyzebra@prodigy.net>, "Christal M Walters" <christelmarlene@sbcglobal.net>, Lawrice Richards" <j770j@aol.com> c: "Dan Houghtaling" <danielb@speednetllc.com>, "Irvin C Rabideau" icr@waterford.lib.mi.us>, "mary rathbun" <upnorthishome@yahoo.com> ate: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 10:48 AM K …I have decided to bite the bullet! I think I must start with Geo ashington, lately of the Long’s. I possess a wee bit of evidence that e was married on 30 Mar 1884, in Saginaw, Saginaw Co, MI… by John re, Justice of the Peace… married to Lydia Fluellen Parks. Now, Lydia was my granny; and, my route back to the landing at lymouth. So, the Mayflower Society should have a copy of their M/C in heir achieves. Or, Saginaw County should have a copy of such ertificate. My 1st step is to beg, borrow or steal …maybe even buy… a opy of this M/C. I hope it doesn’t just say “born Canada…parents nspecifi ed”… but with my luck……? Optimistically, this document should give me his father’s 1st name; other’s maiden name… and hopefully… a little more than “born Canada.” ouldn't that be nice? It would be a key to open the door to all those cousins by the dozens” that I am alleged to have in Canada… cousins o whom I will be able to leave all my money… when I step behind the elvet curtain. So far, I have no one. My next step would be… should I be somewhat successful with the 1st… ould be to find a copy of his… Geo Washington Long… his B/C… in ntario or who knows where? Was he born 30 Mar 1851 in or near-by oronto, as I’ve been told? But, if I get that far… I would be happy… for a while. Thank you, all you listeners… for listening… ohn E Long ***************************** he theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others y keeping your postings to this theme. I-Genealogy Mail List Information ttp://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html **************************** ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message **************************** he theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others y keeping your postings to this theme. I-Genealogy Mail List Infor mation ttp://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html **************************** ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Another thought, briefly. The US settlers must have been excited by the prospect of working their OWN land. That was not an ambition (or dream even) that working people in the UK were encouraged to have. I wonder how land ownership was arranged in Canada... David

Thank you for your replies to my enquiry. Yes, I can see how logging (and subsequently farming), and the availability of work land would entice people across. Of course they were also moving away from the UK and its Dominions (and all the social and religious strictures thereof!!) to a new and very different country. The Samains (MD > NY > MI) bought land on the Michigan-Toledo Strip and the family were mainly, but not entirely, farmers or married into farming families. The Wastells (through Canada) were nonconformists and the father, W.P. Wastell (born London 1804), was a minister in the Congregational Church in Port Huron. Most of that settling family worked in stores and offices. Two Wastell sons, born in Canada, moved on to California, but both Samains & Wastells tended to remain in Michigan. David

Dear All, I believe the last time I posted a comment on the list I followed John Long's "Best Available Data" - a maxim I frequently use. My enquiry (from Norwich, England) is why did so many people travel to MI from Canada? I can see the geographical proximity would make such a move relatively straight forward and I am sure residents in MI would not be surprised that people set up home in their State, But I wondered whether there were any other inducements to settle there. I have two families in MI: the Samains who came through MD to NY in 1825 and then on to Washtenaw in 1835 and then later to Ionia; and the Wastells who came through Guelph, Ontario to St Clair and Lenawee in about 1845. Many of the group seem to have some Canadian roots and I was curious.... All best wishes, David

When my ancestors and their friends came over, they came for land and lumbering and work.   Many of them started in the thumb area of Michigan, and later moved farther north, into Iosco county and Alcona county, and Alpena county.  Those were lumbering areas, and after lumbering died out, they farmed that same land.  I also think the great expanse of land was in itself, enticing.  You could travel for miles and miles, and there always seemed to be more land.  And it didn't cost much.  myra herron, descendant of the Meddaughs, Herrons, Links, Spauldings, etc. --- On Sun, 5/24/09, David Seddon <dandmj@waitrose.com> wrote: From: David Seddon <dandmj@waitrose.com> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Immigration from Canada To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 3:19 PM Dear All, I believe the last time I posted a comment on the list I followed  John Long's  "Best Available Data" - a maxim I frequently use. My enquiry (from Norwich, England) is why did so many people travel  to MI from Canada? I can see the geographical proximity would make  such a move relatively straight forward and I am sure residents in MI  would not be surprised that people set up home in their State, But I  wondered whether there were any other inducements to settle there. I  have two families in MI: the Samains who came through MD to NY in  1825 and then on to Washtenaw in 1835 and then later to Ionia; and  the Wastells who came through Guelph, Ontario to St Clair and Lenawee  in about 1845. Many of the group seem to have some Canadian roots and I was curious.... All best wishes, David   ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also have the info from the 1900 thru 1930 census and some info from their marriage. Let me know if you have this or not. Angie **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)

Sorry it took so long to respond but my first just graduated, so its been crazy! I found a 1900 U.S. Census for this family. Minnie's father was James and mother was Margret M, both born in Canada. If you need all of the info transcribed off of this census let me know. Angie **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)

Good, cheap land enticed thousands to settle in Michigan. I think half of New York moved there after the Erie Canal was finished.I had family in many different counties. -----then they all moved west to Montana, Idaho, Oregon. D Hagerty On May 24, 2009, at 12:19 PM, David Seddon wrote: > Dear All, > I believe the last time I posted a comment on the list I followed > John Long's "Best Available Data" - a maxim I frequently use. > My enquiry (from Norwich, England) is why did so many people travel > to MI from Canada? I can see the geographical proximity would make > such a move relatively straight forward and I am sure residents in MI > would not be surprised that people set up home in their State, But I > wondered whether there were any other inducements to settle there. I > have two families in MI: the Samains who came through MD to NY in > 1825 and then on to Washtenaw in 1835 and then later to Ionia; and > the Wastells who came through Guelph, Ontario to St Clair and Lenawee > in about 1845. > Many of the group seem to have some Canadian roots and I was > curious.... > All best wishes, > David > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please > respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Perhaps it was the abundance of work in the logging camps. Just a thought. Angie **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)

My relatives on my mom's side came from France and Sweden to Quebec after going through Ellis Island, then down to the UP. The Swedes made a pass through Minnesota first. SusanKSchutz http://www.reddeviltj.etsy.com/ http://www.reddeviltj.com/ http://www.knittingreddeviltj.blogspot.com/ http://www.etsy.com/shop_local.php?place=michigan ----- Original Message ---- From: "Acrapidriver@aol.com" <Acrapidriver@aol.com> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 4:29:18 PM Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Immigration from Canada Perhaps it was the abundance of work in the logging camps. Just a thought. Angie **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002) ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message