no problem ,,,just keep me posted if you will...i will keep your email too and if i come up with anything else, ill let you know....   patsy  --- On Wed, 7/8/09, Theresa Walters <twalters@houstoncountyga.org> wrote: From: Theresa Walters <twalters@houstoncountyga.org> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Walters - Ogemaw Co To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 8:39 AM Patsy,     I have just gotten back from an exhausting trip. Apology for not responding sooner. I am grateful for any and all help. There may be a connection. There was something about a wife passing and marrying a cousin of the wife or sister...?? I believe that was Joseph Walters (My great grand father) but only stories at this point. Curious that yours is somewhat similar. Also, I have a great uncle that played steel guitar, Chum was what they called him, I will have to double check but I think his name was Daniel? Anyway, I will get it together and check all my info I have and list some names and dates and see if any of yours match up. Dick Rohr,     As I said to Patsy, sorry for not responding sooner, All help is gratefully appreciated! I don't recall Cheboygan County coming up in any "chats" but of course that does not mean they are not relatives. I will check out what I have and get more information on here, first names as you said. Might be a connection. Thank you very much for offering. Theresa Walters twalters@houstoncountyga.org ----- Original Message -----   From: mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com   To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com   Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:00 AM   Subject: MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 160   *****************************   The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme.   MI-Genealogy Mail List Information   http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html   *****************************   Today's Topics:      1. Re: Walters.//attention Rgrumpy (PATSY)      2. Re: where would I find information about the restaurants then         (Diane Carpenter)      3. Re: MI 1950 restaurants (shirley m brown)      4. Re: where would I find information aboutthe restaurants then         (shirley m brown)   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Message: 1   Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:21:21 -0700 (PDT)   From: PATSY <precious2842@yahoo.com>   Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Walters.//attention Rgrumpy   To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com   Message-ID: <206088.57526.qm@web35507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8   i had some partial relatives that lived in West Branch, Ogemaw county, michigan.....   ?   Clem and Goldie Walters.....   they had two boys, Ron and Gary   ?   they use to play?in a local bar in St. Helen...   ?   would like to know if you have these on your list....i do not know the date of their deaths...   ?   my great uncle Zina Best(brother to my grandmother Martha, my dad's mother)?was married to her mother Luellla who was first married to his brother years prior...which i am not sure was the father of Goldie...i don't have that info...   ?   Patsy?   --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Rgrumpy1029@aol.com <Rgrumpy1029@aol.com> wrote:   From: Rgrumpy1029@aol.com <Rgrumpy1029@aol.com>   Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Walters.   To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com   Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:59 AM   Theresa, there are several 'Walters' buried up here in Cheboygan County.?   Furnish the first names and I will see what I can find - although my book   lists? only burials up to 1982.   Dick Rohr, Indian River.   **************Dell Summer Savings: Cool Deals on Popular Laptops ? Shop   Now!   (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222696924x1201468348/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D1)   *****************************   The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme.   MI-Genealogy Mail List Information   http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html   *****************************   -------------------------------   To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message           ------------------------------   Message: 2   Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:56 -0400   From: "Diane Carpenter" <dlcarpenter@wideopenwest.com>   Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information about the   restaurants then   To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com>   Message-ID: <003c01c9fb53$b9478820$2bd69860$@com>   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"   Have you tried the Southfield Historical Society? Southfield Historical   Society at (248)796-4600   http://www.cityofsouthfield.com/Visitors/AboutSouthfield/HistoryofSouthfield   /tabid/143/Default.aspx   -----Original Message-----   From: mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com   [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of shirley m brown   Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:32 AM   To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com   Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information about the   restraurants then   *****************************   The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect   others by keeping your postings to this theme.   MI-Genealogy Mail List Information   http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html   *****************************   -------------------------------   To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to   MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the   quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------   Message: 3   Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:09:23 -0400   From: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com>   Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] MI 1950 restaurants   To: "Patricia Hamp" <patgen@casair.net>   Cc: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com   Message-ID: <0E7431CCEFC34379905F66E91CDE68F2@annd63866853ae>   Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";   reply-type=original   thank you for the advice   ----- Original Message -----   From: "Patricia Hamp" <patgen@casair.net>   To: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com>   Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:13 PM   Subject: Re: MI 1950 restaurants   > Shirley,   >   > An option is to find your mother's first marriage record. They probably   > married within the year of your birth? Another one would be to find the   > divorce at the appropriate courthouse if that is what happened to the   > first   > marriage.   >   > Is there anyone else in your mother's family that would be old enough to   > remember and could help with some clues?   >   > Pat Hamp   >   > ----- Original Message -----   > From: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com>   > To: "Patricia Hamp" <patgen@casair.net>; <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com>   > Cc: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com>   > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:49 AM   > Subject: Re: MI 1950 restaurants   >   >   >>   >> ----- Original Message -----   >> From: shirley,   >> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com>   >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:36 AM   >> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] reference restaurants 1950   >>   >> This is where it is a bit of a challenge. Mother had remarried and I was   >> very young. My step-dad adopted me and we moved away from MI. So I never   >> knew about my other family. Until I found some papers of the adoption. I   >> talked to mom about it by now she couldn't remember much. I am 58 years   >> old   >> and would like to complete the real line of my family. Mom died and never   >> could remember much, had memory problems. What she could remember was   >> about   >> the restaurant and that my dad is Greek. I just don't were esle to go. I   >> am   >> planning a trip to MI next though.   >>   >>   >   >   > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------   >   >   >   > No virus found in this incoming message.   > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com   > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.2/2213 - Release Date: 07/01/09   > 18:07:00   >   >   >   --------------------------------------------------------------------------------   No virus found in this outgoing message.   Checked by AVG - www.avg.com   Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.2/2213 - Release Date: 07/01/09   18:07:00   ------------------------------   Message: 4   Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:10:56 -0400   From: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com>   Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information aboutthe   restaurants then   To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com>   Cc: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com>   Message-ID: <42C0F503A3AD4A8F9B6119B32854CD40@annd63866853ae>   Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";   reply-type=original   And, thank you also   ----- Original Message -----   From: "Diane Carpenter" <dlcarpenter@wideopenwest.com>   To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com>   Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:28 PM   Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information aboutthe   restaurants then   > Have you tried the Southfield Historical Society? 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This is for Barbara IF your William Steele was from Saginaw, there may be a connection. Don't know for sure about his wife's name. What about a Nelson Steele? Lola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Van Wasshnova" <rfvanwasshnova@gmail.com> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:52 PMThank you, -- Richard Van Wasshnova http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Barbara Werner<bj6758@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > This is to Lola Steele > > > > My mother was a Mulnix from the Lyons Muir Michigan area. Her mother was a > Steele Marie Steele m LeRoy Mulnix > > William Steele m Jessie Mae Birkett > > Henery Steele m Harriet Clute > > >From there I have nothing is this part of your family also? > > Barbara > > > > >> From: mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com >> Subject: MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 158 >> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com >> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:00:44 -0600 >> ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Again, I come before you …with bended knee. Those who have knowledge of the Trulard (Trullard) and Imhoff families. What I think I know… Evidence: 1900 US Census for 144 Champlaine St, Detroit, Wayne Co, MI Ernest Trulard; age 31; b. Mar 1869 in France; both parents b. France Immigration year: ca 1890 (10 yrs in US); occ: Baker Spouse: Veronique [Imhoff] Trulard; age 35; b. Oct 1864 in Switzerland; both parents b. Switzerland Immigration year: ca 1892 (8 yrs in US) Married: 9 yrs; year: 1891 Children: Lewis/Louis (son, age 4, b. Oct 1895); Ernest (son, age 2, b. Nov 1897); Louise (dau, age 1, May 1899); (all b. MI) Veronique bore 3 children: all still living in 1900 Living with family: Eugene Imhoff; single boarder; age 41; b. Oct 1858 in Switzerland; both parents b. Switzerland (probably Veronique’s brother) Enumeration district: 0022; Sheet number and letter: 7A; Household id: 130; Reference number: 4; GSU film number: 1240747; Image number: 00888 Evidence: 1920 US Census for Wayne Co, MI Ernest Trullard; age 50; b. 1870 in France; both parents b. France Spouse: Maroni Trullard Children: Ernest; Louisa; Edward Film #1820818; Digital GS #4311656; Image #00143; Sheet #5 It appears Louis, at age 18, marr Angeline Cottrell on 28 Feb 1914 in either Holy Mary Catholic Church or Christ Episcopal Church, City of Detroit, Wayne Co, MI. I’m interested in which. They divorced before Jun 24 1924. Louis remarried and had several issue. I’m seeking info on the divorce, to whom he was subsequently married and any other statistics. With Angeline, he had at least one issue: Margaret Veronica. Margaret marr Nicholas Patrisso. I’m seeking any data on Margaret and Nicholas. Merci, John E Long

This is to Lola Steele My mother was a Mulnix from the Lyons Muir Michigan area. Her mother was a Steele Marie Steele m LeRoy Mulnix William Steele m Jessie Mae Birkett Henery Steele m Harriet Clute >From there I have nothing is this part of your family also? Barbara > From: mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 158 > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:00:44 -0600 > > > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: (no subject) (Lola Steele) > 2. Another Unknown (Acrapidriver@aol.com) > 3. Re: Another Unknown (joyce mackay) > 4. Re: Death Certificate (joyce mackay) > 5. reference restaurants 1950 (shirley m brown) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:57:18 -0400 > From: "Lola Steele" <lolabug@ejourney.com> > Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] (no subject) > To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000001c9fa3b$197544e0$20c76dd8@D1LKCVB1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello Vivien, My grandmother was born or raised in the area of Racine WI. > At the time of the big Chicago fire ,her family was on the way to Michigan. > I do have some pictures of her and would be interested in seeing what you > have. > Lola > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "brandal" <wintertime@netonecom.net> > To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <paluzern@rootsweb.com>; <palancas@rootsweb.com>; > <pawestmo@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:18 PM > Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] (no subject) > > > > Hi, Everyone, > > > > We were in Wisconsin last weekend and stopped at an antique store and I > > found several pictures and was hoping that I could find their decendants. > > My guess is that they may have lived in the Wisconsin area or in or around > > the Chicago area as well. > > A couple are of genlemen, three are of babies, two are of mother's holding > > their babies, one house on a post card and two of young women. > > > > If you would like to see them just e-mail me and let me know which ones or > > maybe all of them and I will scan them for you. > > > > Vivian > > ***************************** > > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > > ***************************** > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:14:57 EDT > From: Acrapidriver@aol.com > Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Another Unknown > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cd5.535b167d.377cd771@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hey out there! > I have been searching forever trying to find the cause of death of my > great-great aunt Nora Jane Martin. > She married Willis Henry Hier in Clyde Twp., Allegan Co. in 1895 and had > several children. The only child I can find record of is Lena B born in > 1899. In the 1900 census, they lived in Hendricks Twp., MacKinac Co. > Supposedly, he husband abandoned Nora and her children in a lumber camp some where > in Michigan and she was killed some time after that in a barroom brawl. I > can't find any record of her death so I'm uncertain if this is true. I > also cannot find her children on any record after the 1900 census. > If anyone could help me out in my search, it would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Angie > **************Dell Laptops: Huge Savings on Popular Laptops ? Deals > starting at > $399(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222883570x1201497211/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D0) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:11:55 -0700 (PDT) > From: joyce mackay <jomac44@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Another Unknown > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <24221.45867.qm@web80012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Angie, > ? > Have you tried the www.seekingmichigan.org?web site?? I had an uncle that was a puzzle to me until I found his death certificate there.? They have Michigan DC's from 1897 to 1920. > Joyce > > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Acrapidriver@aol.com <Acrapidriver@aol.com> wrote: > > > From: Acrapidriver@aol.com <Acrapidriver@aol.com> > Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Another Unknown > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 11:14 AM > > > Hey out there! > I have been searching forever trying to find the cause of death of my? > great-great aunt Nora Jane Martin. > She married Willis Henry Hier in Clyde Twp., Allegan Co. in 1895 and had? > several children.? The only child I can find record of is Lena B born in? > 1899.? In the 1900 census, they lived in Hendricks Twp., MacKinac Co.??? > Supposedly, he husband abandoned Nora and her children in a lumber camp some? where > in Michigan and she was killed some time after that in a barroom? brawl.? I > can't find any record of her death so I'm uncertain if this is? true.? I > also cannot find her children on any record after the 1900? census.? > If anyone could help me out in my search, it would be greatly? appreciated. > > Thanks, > Angie > **************Dell Laptops: Huge Savings on Popular Laptops ? Deals > starting at > $399(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222883570x1201497211/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D0) > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:00:39 -0700 (PDT) > From: joyce mackay <jomac44@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Death Certificate > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <312074.4156.qm@web80001.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Sue, > ? > If you are looking for a death certificate between 1897 to 1920, you can go to www.seekingmichigan.org and click on the "seek" tab - fill in the form and find what you are looking for. > ? > Joyce > > --- On Tue, 6/30/09, SUSAN SCHROEDER <susieq1028@q.com> wrote: > > > From: SUSAN SCHROEDER <susieq1028@q.com> > Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Death Certificate > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 8:44 PM > > > > I'm having an awful time.? Can someone please give me the address in Lansing > > or a phone number to obtain a death certificate? > > > > Thanks so much. > > > > Sue Schroeder > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:28:39 -0400 > From: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com> > Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] reference restaurants 1950 > To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <0219FB5DF3444167A96765D946A50616@annd63866853ae> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have to find the restaurant that my grandfather wored at and I don't the name of the restaurant or the name of my grandfather. I do some things about him and his family and that he is Greek. That is why I am looking for restaurants from that area and time period > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MI-GENEALOGY list administrator, send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the MI-GENEALOGY mailing list, send an email to MI-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 158 > ******************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009

This is to Barbara Werner and to Theresa Walters, Please do not send digests back to the list. It is improper etiquette an violates list rules. Thank you, -- Richard Van Wasshnova http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Barbara Werner<bj6758@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > This is to Lola Steele > > > > My mother was a Mulnix  from the Lyons Muir Michigan area.  Her mother was a Steele Marie Steele m LeRoy Mulnix > > William Steele m Jessie Mae Birkett > > Henery Steele m Harriet Clute > > >From there I have nothing  is this part of your family also? > >  Barbara > > > > >> From: mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com >> Subject: MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 158 >> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com >> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:00:44 -0600 >>

Try the Polk directories. They include people and businesses. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:10 PM, shirley m brown <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com>wrote: > And, thank you also > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diane Carpenter" <dlcarpenter@wideopenwest.com> > To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information aboutthe > restaurants then > > > > Have you tried the Southfield Historical Society? Southfield Historical > > Society at (248)796-4600 > > > > > http://www.cityofsouthfield.com/Visitors/AboutSouthfield/HistoryofSouthfield > > /tabid/143/Default.aspx > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of shirley m brown > > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:32 AM > > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information about the > > restraurants then > > > > > > ***************************** > > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > > ***************************** > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ***************************** > > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > > ***************************** > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

And, thank you also ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Carpenter" <dlcarpenter@wideopenwest.com> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information aboutthe restaurants then > Have you tried the Southfield Historical Society? Southfield Historical > Society at (248)796-4600 > > http://www.cityofsouthfield.com/Visitors/AboutSouthfield/HistoryofSouthfield > /tabid/143/Default.aspx > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of shirley m brown > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:32 AM > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information about the > restraurants then > > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

thank you for the advice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Hamp" <patgen@casair.net> To: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: Re: MI 1950 restaurants > Shirley, > > An option is to find your mother's first marriage record. They probably > married within the year of your birth? Another one would be to find the > divorce at the appropriate courthouse if that is what happened to the > first > marriage. > > Is there anyone else in your mother's family that would be old enough to > remember and could help with some clues? > > Pat Hamp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com> > To: "Patricia Hamp" <patgen@casair.net>; <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:49 AM > Subject: Re: MI 1950 restaurants > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: shirley, >> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] reference restaurants 1950 >> >> This is where it is a bit of a challenge. Mother had remarried and I was >> very young. My step-dad adopted me and we moved away from MI. So I never >> knew about my other family. Until I found some papers of the adoption. I >> talked to mom about it by now she couldn't remember much. I am 58 years >> old >> and would like to complete the real line of my family. Mom died and never >> could remember much, had memory problems. What she could remember was >> about >> the restaurant and that my dad is Greek. I just don't were esle to go. I >> am >> planning a trip to MI next though. >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.2/2213 - Release Date: 07/01/09 > 18:07:00 > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.2/2213 - Release Date: 07/01/09 18:07:00

Have you tried the Southfield Historical Society? Southfield Historical Society at (248)796-4600 http://www.cityofsouthfield.com/Visitors/AboutSouthfield/HistoryofSouthfield /tabid/143/Default.aspx -----Original Message----- From: mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of shirley m brown Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:32 AM To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information about the restraurants then ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: shirley, To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] reference restaurants 1950 This is where it is a bit of a challenge. Mother had remarried and I was very young. My step-dad adopted me and we moved away from MI. So I never knew about my other family. Until I found some papers of the adoption. I talked to mom about it by now she couldn't remember much. I am 58 years old and would like to complete the real line of my family. Mom died and never could remember much, had memory problems. What she could remember was about the restaurant and that my dad is Greek. I just don't were esle to go. I am planning a trip to MI next though.

Theresa, there are several 'Walters' buried up here in Cheboygan County. Furnish the first names and I will see what I can find - although my book lists only burials up to 1982. Dick Rohr, Indian River. **************Dell Summer Savings: Cool Deals on Popular Laptops – Shop Now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222696924x1201468348/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D1)

Hi, my name is Theresa Walters. I am researching Walters and Bautel/Bautell in the West Branch/Gladwin area. Those lines are the ones I have not gotten very far with, Anyway, I just wanted to say THANKS to those researchers sharing research tips and stories. Especially I am grateful to whom ever created and works on Seeking Michigan web site and those that have mentioned it here!I have found that site one of the most helpful!! So thank you to all who are sharing your info. I am new to MI GEN. I have learned so much here, once again Thanks to all for sharing info and stories! ----- Original Message ----- From: mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:00 AM Subject: MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 158 ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** Today's Topics: 1. Re: (no subject) (Lola Steele) 2. Another Unknown (Acrapidriver@aol.com) 3. Re: Another Unknown (joyce mackay) 4. Re: Death Certificate (joyce mackay) 5. reference restaurants 1950 (shirley m brown) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:57:18 -0400 From: "Lola Steele" <lolabug@ejourney.com> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] (no subject) To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001c9fa3b$197544e0$20c76dd8@D1LKCVB1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Vivien, My grandmother was born or raised in the area of Racine WI. At the time of the big Chicago fire ,her family was on the way to Michigan. I do have some pictures of her and would be interested in seeing what you have. Lola ----- Original Message ----- From: "brandal" <wintertime@netonecom.net> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Cc: <paluzern@rootsweb.com>; <palancas@rootsweb.com>; <pawestmo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:18 PM Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] (no subject) > Hi, Everyone, > > We were in Wisconsin last weekend and stopped at an antique store and I > found several pictures and was hoping that I could find their decendants. > My guess is that they may have lived in the Wisconsin area or in or around > the Chicago area as well. > A couple are of genlemen, three are of babies, two are of mother's holding > their babies, one house on a post card and two of young women. > > If you would like to see them just e-mail me and let me know which ones or > maybe all of them and I will scan them for you. > > Vivian > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:14:57 EDT From: Acrapidriver@aol.com Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Another Unknown To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <cd5.535b167d.377cd771@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hey out there! I have been searching forever trying to find the cause of death of my great-great aunt Nora Jane Martin. She married Willis Henry Hier in Clyde Twp., Allegan Co. in 1895 and had several children. The only child I can find record of is Lena B born in 1899. In the 1900 census, they lived in Hendricks Twp., MacKinac Co. Supposedly, he husband abandoned Nora and her children in a lumber camp some where in Michigan and she was killed some time after that in a barroom brawl. I can't find any record of her death so I'm uncertain if this is true. I also cannot find her children on any record after the 1900 census. If anyone could help me out in my search, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Angie **************Dell Laptops: Huge Savings on Popular Laptops ? Deals starting at $399(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222883570x1201497211/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D0) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:11:55 -0700 (PDT) From: joyce mackay <jomac44@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Another Unknown To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <24221.45867.qm@web80012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Angie, ? Have you tried the www.seekingmichigan.org?web site?? I had an uncle that was a puzzle to me until I found his death certificate there.? They have Michigan DC's from 1897 to 1920. Joyce --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Acrapidriver@aol.com <Acrapidriver@aol.com> wrote: From: Acrapidriver@aol.com <Acrapidriver@aol.com> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Another Unknown To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 11:14 AM Hey out there! I have been searching forever trying to find the cause of death of my? great-great aunt Nora Jane Martin. She married Willis Henry Hier in Clyde Twp., Allegan Co. in 1895 and had? several children.? The only child I can find record of is Lena B born in? 1899.? In the 1900 census, they lived in Hendricks Twp., MacKinac Co.??? Supposedly, he husband abandoned Nora and her children in a lumber camp some? where in Michigan and she was killed some time after that in a barroom? brawl.? I can't find any record of her death so I'm uncertain if this is? true.? I also cannot find her children on any record after the 1900? census.? If anyone could help me out in my search, it would be greatly? appreciated. Thanks, Angie **************Dell Laptops: Huge Savings on Popular Laptops ? Deals starting at $399(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222883570x1201497211/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D0) ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. 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Joyce --- On Tue, 6/30/09, SUSAN SCHROEDER <susieq1028@q.com> wrote: From: SUSAN SCHROEDER <susieq1028@q.com> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Death Certificate To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 8:44 PM I'm having an awful time.? Can someone please give me the address in Lansing or a phone number to obtain a death certificate? Thanks so much. Sue Schroeder ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. 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i had some partial relatives that lived in West Branch, Ogemaw county, michigan.....   Clem and Goldie Walters..... they had two boys, Ron and Gary   they use to play in a local bar in St. Helen...   would like to know if you have these on your list....i do not know the date of their deaths...   my great uncle Zina Best(brother to my grandmother Martha, my dad's mother) was married to her mother Luellla who was first married to his brother years prior...which i am not sure was the father of Goldie...i don't have that info...   Patsy  --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Rgrumpy1029@aol.com <Rgrumpy1029@aol.com> wrote: From: Rgrumpy1029@aol.com <Rgrumpy1029@aol.com> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Walters. To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:59 AM Theresa, there are several 'Walters' buried up here in Cheboygan County.  Furnish the first names and I will see what I can find - although my book lists  only burials up to 1982. Dick Rohr, Indian River. **************Dell Summer Savings: Cool Deals on Popular Laptops – Shop Now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222696924x1201468348/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D1) ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Shirley In order for us to help you, you will need to do some groundwork to help us. If you don't know your grandfather's name, how can you find out? Start with you. What are your parents' names? If they are living, ASK them your grandparents' names. ASK them where he lived. That's a good start. You may have to take small steps, but each answer you find will lead you to more information. You will find this much easier if you learned the basic steps in genealogy. Google "basic genealogy" and see what you find. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/8102/ is a start. http://www.angelfire.com/tx/carolynegenealogy/syllabus.html is another. http://www.cyndislist.com/howtotut.htm is an excellent resource. And there are bezillions of others. If you look at genealogy the way you would look at a puzzle, you'll understand. From one basic piece to another to another, eventually you will have the picture. HTH. Nancy in chilly, drizzly Michigan where the sun will start shining tomorrow -----Original Message----- From: mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of shirley m brown Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:40 AM To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] reference restaurants 1950 This is about Genealogy ----- Original Message ----- From: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] reference restaurants 1950 >I have to find the restaurant that my grandfather wored at and I don't the >name of the restaurant or the name of my grandfather. I do some things >about him and his family and that he is Greek. That is why I am looking for >restaurants from that area and time period

Shirley, Can you post the town and the surname for your family? Might be that someone on the list can then help look through some old directories or censuses to help out. Pat Hamp ----- Original Message ----- From: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] reference restaurants 1950 >I have to find the restaurant that my grandfather wored at and I don't the >name of the restaurant or the name of my grandfather. I do some things >about him and his family and that he is Greek. That is why I am looking for >restaurants from that area and time period > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is about Genealogy ----- Original Message ----- From: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] reference restaurants 1950 >I have to find the restaurant that my grandfather wored at and I don't the >name of the restaurant or the name of my grandfather. I do some things >about him and his family and that he is Greek. That is why I am looking for >restaurants from that area and time period > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have to find the restaurant that my grandfather wored at and I don't the name of the restaurant or the name of my grandfather. I do some things about him and his family and that he is Greek. That is why I am looking for restaurants from that area and time period

Angie,   Have you tried the www.seekingmichigan.org web site?  I had an uncle that was a puzzle to me until I found his death certificate there.  They have Michigan DC's from 1897 to 1920. Joyce --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Acrapidriver@aol.com <Acrapidriver@aol.com> wrote: From: Acrapidriver@aol.com <Acrapidriver@aol.com> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Another Unknown To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 11:14 AM Hey out there! I have been searching forever trying to find the cause of death of my  great-great aunt Nora Jane Martin. She married Willis Henry Hier in Clyde Twp., Allegan Co. in 1895 and had  several children.  The only child I can find record of is Lena B born in  1899.  In the 1900 census, they lived in Hendricks Twp., MacKinac Co.    Supposedly, he husband abandoned Nora and her children in a lumber camp some  where in Michigan and she was killed some time after that in a barroom  brawl.  I can't find any record of her death so I'm uncertain if this is  true.  I also cannot find her children on any record after the 1900  census.  If anyone could help me out in my search, it would be greatly  appreciated. Thanks, Angie **************Dell Laptops: Huge Savings on Popular Laptops – Deals starting at $399(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222883570x1201497211/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D0) ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue,   If you are looking for a death certificate between 1897 to 1920, you can go to www.seekingmichigan.org and click on the "seek" tab - fill in the form and find what you are looking for.   Joyce --- On Tue, 6/30/09, SUSAN SCHROEDER <susieq1028@q.com> wrote: From: SUSAN SCHROEDER <susieq1028@q.com> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Death Certificate To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 8:44 PM I'm having an awful time.  Can someone please give me the address in Lansing or a phone number to obtain a death certificate? Thanks so much. Sue Schroeder ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message