To all my friends in MI, Sorry if I ruffled anyone's feathers. I'm thinking of my genealogical forefathers in the Continental Congress …what would they think abt the deterioration of the "freedom of speech" issue now… after all these years. Let's look at the American Constitution and the Bill of Rights, again. For those who don't know where to look… I suggest you go to your local LIBRARY… don't you know. There may be some passages that could prove of interest. And those wonderful people… the librarian folks …are only too willing to help you. Don't think for one minute I'm not concerned abt my beloved MI. From 1942 to 1946, I was on the beaches in the Pacific… from Guadalcanal to Saipan. Why? I believe it was to keep the enemy from MI …and also, to protect my "freedom of speech" don't you see. I don't intend to beat the issue any further. Just had to make my statement. Believe I earned to right to do so. Will now retreat back again… back to the hiding generation. Bye! John E Long Member Society of Mayflower Descendants Member of Sons of the American Revolution Etc…………… On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:15 PM, brandal <wintertime@netonecom.net> wrote: > I am so with you. That Michigan's problems will be gone come next year. I > can't wait. She is destroying MI. She is cutting things she shouldn't even > be touching and yet her and friends live in the lap of luxury. (sp). She > needs to cut spending right there in her own office and leave everything > else alone. > > I will call the sexton of Marion again. He hasn't called me back yet. > > Vivian > > Kevin would probably call anyone kook if it exposes them. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Long" <longjohn144@gmail.com> > To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "Kenny Long" <greatwhite1116@yahoo.com>; "Irvin C Rabideau" < > icr@waterford.lib.mi.us> > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] WHEN WRITING TO ELECTED OFFICIALS ABOUT > THELIBRARY... > > > > What Kevin O'Brien tells you is not just some idle rambling from "a kook > in California." I am somewhat surprised that one of us homo sapiens would > take the time to speak the truth concerning one of the problems in our > political system. In a few more months, our problem in Lansing will leave > office… and we may be lucky in the next office holder who, hopefully, will > have a more realistic set of priorities. > > I'm a Floridian, now. Escaped from Michigan a few yrs back. May return > …if "the economic climate" ever gets better. Incidentally, I hold 3 college > degrees, plus a lotta post-grad work …just in case you think me a "kook in > Florida." …but, I still may be …may have to think abt that. > > Concerning libraries …all of us should realize that they are the best > source of education for all of us …especially the underprivileged and near > poverty stricken children… our future leaders. Politicians should take note > of this fact …if they really care. > > John > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Kevin O'Brien <kevinobrien8527@cox.net > >wrote: > > Dear Friends, >> Unfortunately I live in California so other than offering some advice I >> am powerless to help much, but I am sharing what I know about political >> efforts and getting the attention of your elected officials. >> When writing or contacting any elected official, remember they receive >> hundreds of submissions every day regarding different subjects. In order >> to >> make their work easier and streamline the volume they receive, they use a >> quiet algorythm that is worked against some mathematical formula regarding >> the populous of their district and state to determine the worth of all >> contacts andthe level of risk a politician has if they do not give the >> particular issue public attention. In a nutshell here is how it works: >> >> When they receive E-MAIL contacts they are bundled into sheer numbers >> alone >> and aside from an automatically generated letter back to the sender, >> LITTLE >> IF ANY REVIEW takes place as they are LOWEST in vote risk worth. >> >> ONLINE PETITIONS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS INNEFECTIVE AND ARE GENERALLY IGNORED >> ALTOGETHER, because there is no way to verify the sender, their location >> in >> the elected official's district and they are almost always in an improper >> format. >> >> LETTERS WRITTEN USING YOUR COMPUTER that are NOT boiler plate outlines >> drafted by someone else, rate higher on the vote risk scale. >> >> HAND TYPED LETTERS ON A TYPEWRITER, rate even higher on the vote risk >> scale >> but not by much, but they show a direct effort by the writer. Pretty >> goofy, >> eh? >> >> TELEPHONE CALLS are attention getters too, but in the end all they do is >> count the numbers and compare them against the population at large. Rarely >> is a call ever returned by anyone but an office pogue. >> >> THE MOST EFFECTIVE TYPE OF CORRESPONDENCE that will almost always get to >> them or at least their Chief or Staff are HANDWRITTEN letters in BLUE INK >> (more personal than business black) on PERSONAL STATIONERY like grandma >> uses >> when she writes a letter to you. In the formula they have established that >> a >> single handwritten letter in this manner potentially translates to >> thousands >> of potential votes at risk, or even higher based upon the population. I >> don't get it either. >> >> I know this whole thing sounds goofy and you are free to shake your head >> and dismiss it as just babble from some kook from California, but I work >> for >> an elected official and have worked on several campaigns for public >> positions. Please focus your efforts and use the economy of your forces >> to >> make the biggest impact! I have always enjoyed the genealogical resources >> Michigan has to offer and especially all the effort the Rootsweb >> volunteers >> like Pat Hamp and Caroline Obertien in the Saginaw and Midland areas and >> the >> hundreds of other county listowners. Good luck with your fight and thank >> your all of your efforts on behalf of those of us from other states. >> >> Sincerely, >> Kevin O'Brien >> Laguna Hills, CA >> >> ***************************** >> The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect >> others by keeping your postings to this theme. >> MI-Genealogy Mail List Information >> http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html >> ***************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for offering I am looking for the dearth date and burial of Richie E. Teets , Born in 1864 in Ohio. Lived in Perry, Allen Co., Ohio in 1880 and was 16 years old Father was David Teets, was born @1833, Mother was Mary Engsley, both born in Ohio. Beleive whole family lived in Perry, Ohio Richie married Jeanette born @ 1869 Ohio. and they had four children. But beleive they moved to MI and all children were born in MI. Had two boys and two girls. Females werre Glenna C., and Helene M. boys are Vivian E and Paul T. they all live in Detroit in 1922 as that is when he marr. my grandmother Agnes Teets. 21 Oct. 1922. Both Richie and Agnes were widowiers . Hope this gives you enough info to find something.Uretta.

What Kevin O'Brien tells you is not just some idle rambling from "a kook in California." I am somewhat surprised that one of us homo sapiens would take the time to speak the truth concerning one of the problems in our political system. In a few more months, our problem in Lansing will leave office… and we may be lucky in the next office holder who, hopefully, will have a more realistic set of priorities. I'm a Floridian, now. Escaped from Michigan a few yrs back. May return …if "the economic climate" ever gets better. Incidentally, I hold 3 college degrees, plus a lotta post-grad work …just in case you think me a "kook in Florida." …but, I still may be …may have to think abt that. Concerning libraries …all of us should realize that they are the best source of education for all of us …especially the underprivileged and near poverty stricken children… our future leaders. Politicians should take note of this fact …if they really care. John On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Kevin O'Brien <kevinobrien8527@cox.net>wrote: > Dear Friends, > Unfortunately I live in California so other than offering some advice I > am powerless to help much, but I am sharing what I know about political > efforts and getting the attention of your elected officials. > When writing or contacting any elected official, remember they receive > hundreds of submissions every day regarding different subjects. In order to > make their work easier and streamline the volume they receive, they use a > quiet algorythm that is worked against some mathematical formula regarding > the populous of their district and state to determine the worth of all > contacts andthe level of risk a politician has if they do not give the > particular issue public attention. In a nutshell here is how it works: > > When they receive E-MAIL contacts they are bundled into sheer numbers alone > and aside from an automatically generated letter back to the sender, LITTLE > IF ANY REVIEW takes place as they are LOWEST in vote risk worth. > > ONLINE PETITIONS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS INNEFECTIVE AND ARE GENERALLY IGNORED > ALTOGETHER, because there is no way to verify the sender, their location in > the elected official's district and they are almost always in an improper > format. > > LETTERS WRITTEN USING YOUR COMPUTER that are NOT boiler plate outlines > drafted by someone else, rate higher on the vote risk scale. > > HAND TYPED LETTERS ON A TYPEWRITER, rate even higher on the vote risk scale > but not by much, but they show a direct effort by the writer. Pretty goofy, > eh? > > TELEPHONE CALLS are attention getters too, but in the end all they do is > count the numbers and compare them against the population at large. Rarely > is a call ever returned by anyone but an office pogue. > > THE MOST EFFECTIVE TYPE OF CORRESPONDENCE that will almost always get to > them or at least their Chief or Staff are HANDWRITTEN letters in BLUE INK > (more personal than business black) on PERSONAL STATIONERY like grandma > uses > when she writes a letter to you. In the formula they have established that > a > single handwritten letter in this manner potentially translates to > thousands > of potential votes at risk, or even higher based upon the population. I > don't get it either. > > I know this whole thing sounds goofy and you are free to shake your head > and dismiss it as just babble from some kook from California, but I work > for > an elected official and have worked on several campaigns for public > positions. Please focus your efforts and use the economy of your forces to > make the biggest impact! I have always enjoyed the genealogical resources > Michigan has to offer and especially all the effort the Rootsweb volunteers > like Pat Hamp and Caroline Obertien in the Saginaw and Midland areas and > the > hundreds of other county listowners. Good luck with your fight and thank > your all of your efforts on behalf of those of us from other states. > > Sincerely, > Kevin O'Brien > Laguna Hills, CA > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good advice from Kevin! I have done lots of grassroots lobbying in Oklahoma over the years and agree with Kevin's pointers. Personal letters work! Mary Sue Schnell Norman, OK (grew up in Saginaw) -----Original Message----- From: Kevin O'Brien <kevinobrien8527@cox.net> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2009 6:57 pm Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] WHEN WRITING TO ELECTED OFFICIALS ABOUT THE LIBRARY... Dear Friends, Unfortunately I live in California so other than offering some advice I am powerless to help much, but I am sharing what I know about political efforts and getting the attention of your elected officials. When writing or contacting any elected official, remember they receive hundreds of submissions every day regarding different subjects. In order to make their work easier and streamline the volume they receive, they use a quiet algorythm that is worked against some mathematical formula regarding the populous of their district and state to determine the worth of all contacts andthe level of risk a politician has if they do not give the particular issue public attention. In a nutshell here is how it works: When they receive E-MAIL contacts they are bundled into sheer numbers alone and aside from an automatically generated letter back to the sender, LITTLE IF ANY REVIEW takes place as they are LOWEST in vote risk worth. ONLINE PETITIONS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS INNEFECTIVE AND ARE GENERALLY IGNORED ALTOGETHER, because there is no way to verify the sender, their location in the elected official's district and they are almost always in an improper format. LETTERS WRITTEN USING YOUR COMPUTER that are NOT boiler plate outlines drafted by someone else, rate higher on the vote risk scale. HAND TYPED LETTERS ON A TYPEWRITER, rate even higher on the vote risk scale but not by much, but they show a direct effort by the writer. Pretty goofy, eh? TELEPHONE CALLS are attention getters too, but in the end all they do is count the numbers and compare them against the population at large. Rarely is a call ever returned by anyone but an office pogue. THE MOST EFFECTIVE TYPE OF CORRESPONDENCE that will almost always get to them or at least their Chief or Staff are HANDWRITTEN letters in BLUE INK (more personal than business black) on PERSONAL STATIONERY like grandma uses when she writes a letter to you. In the formula they have established that a single handwritten letter in this manner potentially translates to thousands of potential votes at risk, or even higher based upon the population. I don't get it either. I know this whole thing sounds goofy and you are free to shake your head and dismiss it as just babble from some kook from California, but I work for an elected official and have worked on several campaigns for public positions. Please focus your efforts and use the economy of your forces to make the biggest impact! I have always enjoyed the genealogical resources Michigan has to offer and especially all the effort the Rootsweb volunteers like Pat Hamp and Caroline Obertien in the Saginaw and Midland areas and the hundreds of other county listowners. Good luck with your fight and thank your all of your efforts on behalf of those of us from other states. Sincerely, Kevin O'Brien Laguna Hills, CA ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Friends, Unfortunately I live in California so other than offering some advice I am powerless to help much, but I am sharing what I know about political efforts and getting the attention of your elected officials. When writing or contacting any elected official, remember they receive hundreds of submissions every day regarding different subjects. In order to make their work easier and streamline the volume they receive, they use a quiet algorythm that is worked against some mathematical formula regarding the populous of their district and state to determine the worth of all contacts andthe level of risk a politician has if they do not give the particular issue public attention. In a nutshell here is how it works: When they receive E-MAIL contacts they are bundled into sheer numbers alone and aside from an automatically generated letter back to the sender, LITTLE IF ANY REVIEW takes place as they are LOWEST in vote risk worth. ONLINE PETITIONS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS INNEFECTIVE AND ARE GENERALLY IGNORED ALTOGETHER, because there is no way to verify the sender, their location in the elected official's district and they are almost always in an improper format. LETTERS WRITTEN USING YOUR COMPUTER that are NOT boiler plate outlines drafted by someone else, rate higher on the vote risk scale. HAND TYPED LETTERS ON A TYPEWRITER, rate even higher on the vote risk scale but not by much, but they show a direct effort by the writer. Pretty goofy, eh? TELEPHONE CALLS are attention getters too, but in the end all they do is count the numbers and compare them against the population at large. Rarely is a call ever returned by anyone but an office pogue. THE MOST EFFECTIVE TYPE OF CORRESPONDENCE that will almost always get to them or at least their Chief or Staff are HANDWRITTEN letters in BLUE INK (more personal than business black) on PERSONAL STATIONERY like grandma uses when she writes a letter to you. In the formula they have established that a single handwritten letter in this manner potentially translates to thousands of potential votes at risk, or even higher based upon the population. I don't get it either. I know this whole thing sounds goofy and you are free to shake your head and dismiss it as just babble from some kook from California, but I work for an elected official and have worked on several campaigns for public positions. Please focus your efforts and use the economy of your forces to make the biggest impact! I have always enjoyed the genealogical resources Michigan has to offer and especially all the effort the Rootsweb volunteers like Pat Hamp and Caroline Obertien in the Saginaw and Midland areas and the hundreds of other county listowners. Good luck with your fight and thank your all of your efforts on behalf of those of us from other states. Sincerely, Kevin O'Brien Laguna Hills, CA

This is what I sent to Senator Allen " Hello Senator Allen, I am writing you to plea for your support to keep the genealogical resources currently at the library in Lansing intact. My paternal relatives settled in Rives Junction, Jackson County in 1855. My maternal relatives settled in Lapeer, Macomb, Michigan. The library is by far my best resource for finding my relative. I could list the ways that this collection has helped my but suffice it to say that without it many trails would be completely lost. Just one such example is cemetery records. May old cemeteries in Michigan have fallen into serious disrepair. Fortunately the DAR catalogued many of these cemeteries' in the early 1900's. Without these books that are in your library the many researchers like myself would be completely out of luck. When I visit Michigan to do research my wife and I rent a car, stay in hotel rooms every night, eat all our meals there. I suspect that not including airfare we add $1400 per visit to the local economy. Although I do not have voting rights in Michigan I have well over 200 relatives that do. Please do not allow this valuable and well designed resource to be lost! Sincerely, Vic Vic Taylor P.O. Box 389 Trevett, ME 04571 Phone: 207-633-4436 Fax: 207-633-5677 Cell: 207-380-5660 Email: vtaylor@tpointsolutions.com" -----Original Message----- From: mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Beals Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:27 AM To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Library of Michigan Fellow Michigan genealogists and library supporters - Now is the time for Michiganians to come to the aid of our state's history and learning. Your Michigan Genealogical Council is planning a public assembly in Lansing to show our legislators and fellow citizens that we care about our state's past. On Wednesday the 5th of August, let's assemble at the State Capitol, on the lawn. nbsp;We have reserved the North and South lawns, and the steps. Time, 9:45 a.m. The State Senate goes into session at 10 a.m., the only time in the next few weeks we can be certain our legislators will be assembled at Lansing. At 10:30 a.m., we will process/march over to the Michigan Historical Center and form our Hands Around the Library. Since the perimeter of the building is around 1800 feet, it is obvious we can use as many genealogists or friends of libraries/history of all types as possible. Flags and ribbons can be held between people as well as hands and arms. We'll stay around the building probably 20 minutes starting at 11:00 a.m. -- then off to lunch, research, or museum viewing! Thanks for your support of Michigan's past � and our future. Please let us know how many from your Society will be able to participate -- and questions to Sue Irvine. ________________________________ From: Peggy Youngs <peggy.youngs@gmail.com> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:49:05 AM Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Library of Michigan To those who live outside of Michigan, please contact Senator Jason Allen either by snail mail, phone or email. His contact information is: Mailing Address: Senator Jason Allen P.O. Box 30036 Lansing, MI 48909-7536 By Phone: (517) 373-2413 By Fax: (517) 373-5144 By Email: senjallen@senate.michigan.gov Include your connection to Michigan when contacting him. Regards, Peggy Youngs ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Donna, Is it possible… I have a William Bradley b. ca 1844; probably in Ireland. He had 2 bros that we know abt (or think we know abt). Bro Steven, b. 1837 and John… where I have a shoestring connection …and a wee bit of info. John was b. 22 Dec 1834 in Ireland. Parents of the 3 boys were Nathanial (1813-1888) and Elizabeth nee Parent (1816-1851). In 1859, John marr. Jane Dagg. I have data on their descendants. Should our 2 William's be one and the same… I would like to know more abt him. What think you??? On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:08 AM, D.C. <kinshipmatters@twmi.rr.com> wrote: > Could someone with Ancestry.com please tell me the Regiment/Company/length > of service of this soldier? Thanks for your consideration. Donna > > > > 1890 Veterans Schedules > > Veteran's Name: William E Bradley > > Year enlisted: 1862 > > Year discharged: 1864 > > RANK: Private > > COMPANY: View Image > > Regiment or vessel: View Image > > Length of service: View Image > > Source Citation: Year: 1890; Census Place: Conway, Livingston, Michigan; > Roll: 19; Page: 2; ED: 156. > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

To those who live outside of Michigan, please contact Senator Jason Allen either by snail mail, phone or email. His contact information is: Mailing Address: Senator Jason Allen P.O. Box 30036 Lansing, MI 48909-7536 By Phone: (517) 373-2413 By Fax: (517) 373-5144 By Email: senjallen@senate.michigan.gov Include your connection to Michigan when contacting him. Regards, Peggy Youngs On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Betty-Jane Lee <bjlee@gate.net> wrote: > Pat, > > I am interested in the situation at the Library of Michigan, > I live out of state, but I was from Michigan and have used > the Library many times on my visits back to Lansing, and > will want to again. > > I am wondering if messages from out of state would be > of any help in swinging the decision. I now live in Florida, > thus it isn't a day trip to where ever they will have placed > parts of the collections. > > Thank you > > Betty-Jane Lee > >

Pat, I am interested in the situation at the Library of Michigan, I live out of state, but I was from Michigan and have used the Library many times on my visits back to Lansing, and will want to again. I am wondering if messages from out of state would be of any help in swinging the decision. I now live in Florida, thus it isn't a day trip to where ever they will have placed parts of the collections. Thank you Betty-Jane Lee

Fellow Michigan genealogists and library supporters - Now is the time for Michiganians to come to the aid of our state's history and learning. Your Michigan Genealogical Council is planning a public assembly in Lansing to show our legislators and fellow citizens that we care about our state's past. On Wednesday the 5th of August, let's assemble at the State Capitol, on the lawn. nbsp;We have reserved the North and South lawns, and the steps. Time, 9:45 a.m. The State Senate goes into session at 10 a.m., the only time in the next few weeks we can be certain our legislators will be assembled at Lansing. At 10:30 a.m., we will process/march over to the Michigan Historical Center and form our Hands Around the Library. Since the perimeter of the building is around 1800 feet, it is obvious we can use as many genealogists or friends of libraries/history of all types as possible. Flags and ribbons can be held between people as well as hands and arms. We'll stay around the building probably 20 minutes starting at 11:00 a.m. -- then off to lunch, research, or museum viewing! Thanks for your support of Michigan's past … and our future. Please let us know how many from your Society will be able to participate -- and questions to Sue Irvine. ________________________________ From: Peggy Youngs <peggy.youngs@gmail.com> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:49:05 AM Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Library of Michigan To those who live outside of Michigan, please contact Senator Jason Allen either by snail mail, phone or email. His contact information is: Mailing Address: Senator Jason Allen P.O. Box 30036 Lansing, MI 48909-7536 By Phone: (517) 373-2413 By Fax: (517) 373-5144 By Email: senjallen@senate.michigan.gov Include your connection to Michigan when contacting him. Regards, Peggy Youngs

Name: William Bradley Residence: Spencer, Michigan   Age at Enlistment: 33   Enlistment Date:   8 Sep 1862   Rank at enlistment: Private   Enlistment Place: Greenville, MI   State Served:   Michigan   Survived the War?: Yes Service Record:     Enlisted in Company F, Michigan 21st Infantry Regiment on 03 Sep 1862. Mustered out on 11 Mar 1863 at Nashville, TN.   Birth Date:   abt 1829 Sources:   Record of Service of Michigan Volunteers 1861-65 This might be your William E. Bradley. From the info you sent it said 1890 census was from Michigan.   Char Livermore Researching surnames; Livermore from England to Michigan Colbus or Kolbus from Poland to Munising Michigan areas Morin from Canada to Michigan Cooper & Wilson's from Kentucky, Tennessee, to Michigan. --- On Thu, 7/23/09, D.C. <kinshipmatters@twmi.rr.com> wrote: From: D.C. <kinshipmatters@twmi.rr.com> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Ancestry.com lookup 1891 veteran's schedule To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 4:08 AM Could someone with Ancestry.com please tell me the Regiment/Company/length of service of this soldier?  Thanks for your consideration.  Donna 1890 Veterans Schedules Veteran's Name: William E Bradley Year enlisted: 1862  Year discharged: 1864 RANK: Private COMPANY: View Image Regiment or vessel: View Image Length of service: View Image Source Citation: Year: 1890; Census Place: Conway, Livingston, Michigan; Roll: 19; Page: 2; ED: 156. ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could someone with Ancestry.com please tell me the Regiment/Company/length of service of this soldier? Thanks for your consideration. Donna 1890 Veterans Schedules Veteran's Name: William E Bradley Year enlisted: 1862 Year discharged: 1864 RANK: Private COMPANY: View Image Regiment or vessel: View Image Length of service: View Image Source Citation: Year: 1890; Census Place: Conway, Livingston, Michigan; Roll: 19; Page: 2; ED: 156.

I live in Texas and all my relatives are from Michigan --- and I am a native Michigander too. I had a librarian in the Michigan library help me when I thought I would never find the information I was looking for. What can I do to help now? shirley m brown wrote: > I live in FL. all of my history is in MI. I can I help the Library of MI > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Hamp" <patgen@casair.net> > To: <MIHOUGHT-L@rootsweb.com>; <migratio@rootsweb.com>; > <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com>; <MI-CIVILWAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:14 PM > Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] "Hands Around Library" > > > >> The future status of the Library of Michigan, the Archives and the Museum >> is >> being threatened by an Executive Order of the Governor. You can read the >> full text of this order at: >> http://michigan.gov/documents/gov/EO36_285881_7.pdf. >> >> >> >

I live in FL. all of my history is in MI. I can I help the Library of MI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Hamp" <patgen@casair.net> To: <MIHOUGHT-L@rootsweb.com>; <migratio@rootsweb.com>; <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com>; <MI-CIVILWAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:14 PM Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] "Hands Around Library" > The future status of the Library of Michigan, the Archives and the Museum > is > being threatened by an Executive Order of the Governor. You can read the > full text of this order at: > http://michigan.gov/documents/gov/EO36_285881_7.pdf. > > This is not a done deal yet. Executive orders can be rejected by the > Legislature. This order, if the Library is to be saved, must be rejected > by > Oct. 1, 2009. The Michigan Genealogical Council (MGC) of which MMGS is a > member is leading a campaign to have this order rejected. You can read > more > about these efforts at: > http://mimgc.org/ > > Our society was very active in efforts that made the present home for the > Library, Archives and Museum possible. We have supported the collections > and work of the Library for many years. It is time for us to come > together > and help rescue these treasures from destruction by this Executive Order. > > One of the ways you can aid the cause is to write, call or visit your > State > Representative and State Senator. For non-Michigan residents, write > Senator > Jason Allen. The MGC webpage gives directions for determining your > legislative people: http://mimgc.org/ > > Another event planned by MGC is a day of support called "Hands around the > Library." August 5, 2009 is the chosen day for genealogists, historians > and > interested persons to assemble and show the Michigan Legislatures that the > services and the facilities of the Library, Archives and Museum should not > be dispersed in the manner described by the Executive Order. The details > are not firmly in place for this event. The plan so far is to gather at > the > State Capitol at 9:45 am and be present for the opening of the Legislative > sessions. The group will then march across the mall to the Library > building > and join other interested persons. At 11 am, all present at the Library > will form a large circle around the building and clasp hands of support. > The > event will be concluded by noon. It is hoped that this event will be well > publicized and reported upon by our media system. > > As you can imagine, this event needs to be well organized and coordinated. > Joanne Harvey has been working on getting the necessary permits from the > Lansing Police Dept. She has asked for member help in continuing these > plans. She needs a right hand man or personal assistant to help with the > recruiting of people, planning signs, gathering flags and buntings, making > numerous phone calls and generally helping her with the many details that > go > into such events. Please, if you can help, give Joanne a call at > 517-321-0945 or drop an e-mail to her at harveyfti@webtv.net > > Along with the people, the circle needs definition. If you have a machine > that chalks grass, that would be a welcome service. If you have other > ideas > and services for the event let Joanne know. If you know how to get > publicity, now is the time to come forward with your ideas and contacts. > We > must all join together and save our Library. > > More details on the Aug. 5 events of support will be sent to you as they > become available. > > Judy > > Judy Levy Pfaff > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The future status of the Library of Michigan, the Archives and the Museum is being threatened by an Executive Order of the Governor. You can read the full text of this order at: http://michigan.gov/documents/gov/EO36_285881_7.pdf. This is not a done deal yet. Executive orders can be rejected by the Legislature. This order, if the Library is to be saved, must be rejected by Oct. 1, 2009. The Michigan Genealogical Council (MGC) of which MMGS is a member is leading a campaign to have this order rejected. You can read more about these efforts at: http://mimgc.org/ Our society was very active in efforts that made the present home for the Library, Archives and Museum possible. We have supported the collections and work of the Library for many years. It is time for us to come together and help rescue these treasures from destruction by this Executive Order. One of the ways you can aid the cause is to write, call or visit your State Representative and State Senator. For non-Michigan residents, write Senator Jason Allen. The MGC webpage gives directions for determining your legislative people: http://mimgc.org/ Another event planned by MGC is a day of support called "Hands around the Library." August 5, 2009 is the chosen day for genealogists, historians and interested persons to assemble and show the Michigan Legislatures that the services and the facilities of the Library, Archives and Museum should not be dispersed in the manner described by the Executive Order. The details are not firmly in place for this event. The plan so far is to gather at the State Capitol at 9:45 am and be present for the opening of the Legislative sessions. The group will then march across the mall to the Library building and join other interested persons. At 11 am, all present at the Library will form a large circle around the building and clasp hands of support. The event will be concluded by noon. It is hoped that this event will be well publicized and reported upon by our media system. As you can imagine, this event needs to be well organized and coordinated. Joanne Harvey has been working on getting the necessary permits from the Lansing Police Dept. She has asked for member help in continuing these plans. She needs a right hand man or personal assistant to help with the recruiting of people, planning signs, gathering flags and buntings, making numerous phone calls and generally helping her with the many details that go into such events. Please, if you can help, give Joanne a call at 517-321-0945 or drop an e-mail to her at harveyfti@webtv.net Along with the people, the circle needs definition. If you have a machine that chalks grass, that would be a welcome service. If you have other ideas and services for the event let Joanne know. If you know how to get publicity, now is the time to come forward with your ideas and contacts. We must all join together and save our Library. More details on the Aug. 5 events of support will be sent to you as they become available. Judy Judy Levy Pfaff

Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:30 AM Subject: [MIGEN] Fwd: Information on the Library of Michigan Good morning, Here are two of the many, many e-mails received by the Michigan Genealogical Council over the past week in support of the Library of Michigan. The first one is a letter to the Governor from our Vice-President, Sue Irvine. The second is a report of Lt. John Cherry’s Town Hall meeting in Detroit, on Thursday, July 15. The disturbing thing about these Town Hall meetings is they have very little advance notice of where and when they are being held. Please share the news with your Society membership. The Library of Michigan needs our help NOW. There was a shocking article in the Lansing State Journal on Sunday, July 19 outlining the Governor’s plans for the Michigan Historical Center, the building that houses the Library and Archives of Michigan. Please add your comments to the bottom of this article. The Lansing State Journal article is located at: http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20090719/NEWS06/907190625/1102/NEWS06 . In addition, please write to your State senator and State representative urging support for Senate Bills 503-527. SB 518 is the one, which specifically addresses the Library. These bills would place the parts of History, Arts, and Libraries under the Secretary of State. From the comments, we have been hearing and reading, MSU is not interested in all of the assets of the Library of Michigan, in fact the Executive Order instructs them to break up parts of the collection. As Sue mentions in her letter, our website is being updated daily. The newer items are on our home page, http://mimgc.org. Older items can be found by visiting the Legislative Items page, which can be found on the left hand menu or directly at http://mimgc.org/legislation.html. The Michigan Genealogical Council is planning an event where we can show our support for the Library; details will be available as soon as everything is finalized. Tom Koselka, Corresponding Secretary Michigan Genealogical Council LIBRARY OF MICHIGAN – is in an ominous position!!! “The Value of the State Library” (June 28, 2009) article by Candy Spiegel , Livingston Daily news, says it very well! Read her article and others at http://MIMGC.org <http://mimgc.org/> Here are some more thoughts! If you don’t know where you come from, how will you know where you’re going!? Genealogy is the 2nd biggest hobby in the United States! People travel across the country finding records and photos. Knowing a relative served in the Civil War makes the study of history more interesting! WWI, WWII, Were my relatives in the service? Which battles? Were they community leaders? Why do I enjoy art? What about my health? My DNA? When Michigan’s governor came out with her executive order on July 13th the family history research community was in shock! “Surely there’s a mistake!” She’s not going to split up the 10th largest collection in the United States?” Michigan State University doesn’t want it. MSU needs classrooms and teachers. Where would be park?? Roger Moffat calculated that Granholm’s idea would save only $2 million. A drop in the bucket! “If everyone in Michigan paid $0.30 we could cover that!” Then we heard more! She’s planning to “rent out” our building? For a high school? 500 students? It’s supposed to save $9 million? That’s the combine History, Arts, and Libraries budget. (Is she including the archives in her plan?) The Library of Michigan has a special heating/cooling system designed for open shelving of books. Sound travels from floor to floor in the large open center. Her idea would require extensive heating/cooling changes along with the need for increased bathroom facilities – costing much more than “rent” money. I’m wondering if the Lansing area Schools have funds to “rent” such a building in the first place. Who’d be their students? Does our governor think this idea would “pass” so the legislators’ kids had a cool new building?? Is that a “good” use of the 10 th largest Genealogical collection? Capital Area District Libraries? The Lansing Library system keeps their historical and biographical materials in the basement of the Forest Parke Library. Thousands of photographs, dozens of family and personal manuscripts, original artwork, pre civil war diaries. Boxes and boxes! Lansing Libraries open this collection for 4 hours twice per month! They cannot afford hire staff for the collection they have. They certainly can’t cram much more in that basement! We, the genealogical community know that times are tough! But “Tough times make Tough people!” to borrow a book title! 180 + years of collecting Michigan’s story. Have you touched a copy of your family’s history that’s 150 years old …a book actually written by your great-great-relative. Have you seen his “mark”? What about his log mark? Have you said “Thank God, someone saved this book!” “I knew great grandparents came to Michigan – but didn’t know in which county to look!” “Whow! Grandpa came to Michigan from New York! Look – here’s a book with his name written 100 years ago” “Thank you! Thank you!” We hear those comments all the time at the Library of Michigan! Donations mostly! Part of our collection is from generous contributions from The Abrams Foundation. Millions of dollars throughout the years! Donations, gifts, and great leadership built our collection! The Library of Michigan has a vision! Michigan residents can be VERY proud of the State’s Collection. In Fort Wayne, the Allen County Public Library draws hundreds of people to their facility year after year – just to do genealogical research. Ft.Wayne has facilities for visitors! They’ve had national conventions! They sponsor multiple yearly events focusing on the use their collection. The Library of Michigan could do the same. Michigan residents would do better to publicize our State Resource. Granholm wants JOBS? Build a few motels/hotels/inns to accommodate visitors in the area just like they do in Indiana! (no – don’t use our library for a hotel either!!!). Advertisers, trip coordinators, clerks, wait staff!! Promulgate Lansing area events. Our library is free! How about coupons for food or motels? Advertize tours of the library and museum. Add the Library of Michigan to the tourism brochures! Sue Irvine, Vice-president, Michigan Genealogical Council. 4215 Northgate St NE Grand Rapids, Mi 49525 616-364-9629 sjirv@yahoo.com Where to look: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(twnw5o4520diom45tdocax45))/mileg.aspx?page=SponsorSearch<http://www.legislature.mi.gov/%28S%28twnw5o4520diom45tdocax45%29%29/mileg.aspx?page=SponsorSearch> Senate districts: http://senate.michigan.gov/2003/senatedistricts.pdf Representative districts: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/House_state_16750_7.pdf * * *From:* Mary Lou Duncan *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:56 PM *To:* *Subject:* "Town Hall Meeting" last Thursday night Hi all, This is fairly urgent. There is to be another "*Town Hall Meeting*" chaired by Lieut. Governor Cherry this week in *Royal Oak*. I believe it is to be held at Royal Oak High School, but I don't know the day. It will again be scheduled from 6 to 7:30 p.m. - still light out. I think it would help our cause to have at least five or six people from genealogical societies attend the meeting and speak out for retaining the Library of Michigan and the Archives. Perhaps some from the Oakland Co. Gen. Society could make it. These meetings are NOT well publicized. There was a brief article in the Detroit Free Press Thursday, *the morning of the meeting. *It said that it would be at Wayne State but no mention of whether tickets would be needed or what building it would be in. It took me *four *phone calls to various departments at Wayne before I could get the information - and then it was 4 p.m. and I was told I should be there by 5:15 p.m. [For Joanne - I was safe enough. It was right across the street from the parking structure and a police car was there afterwards.] It is billed to be a Town Meeting on "Streamlining State Government" but has nothing to do with it. If you search on Google for "Seven Core Functions of Government" it will take you to the office of Governor page that contains them. They are full of the type of "mission statements" that will bring "yes" votes on the little clickers. The people in the audience are given clickers to vote "yes" or "no" after each of the seven statements are read. The tally is then shown on a screen. At the end one man said, "You are going to go back to Lansing and tell everyone that the public overwhelmingly is in favor of what is written, when, in reality it is about means, not ends, and is so general that you get "yes" votes. [Think of motherhood and apple pie.] *However*, at the end of reading each statement, the audience is encouraged to comment and a mike is given to the person raising his hand. The last sentence under *2. Education* is "*The state should provide a statewide public library system to support the continuum of education for both our children and adult citizens."* I stood and asked how they could say that and then close the LIbrary of Michigan and give some of the collection to Michigan State University for their library where parking for elderly adults and the infirm would be extremely difficult and end participation in MelCat that enabled citizens around Michigan to find the location of books and check them out, having them sent to their local library - and how could they break up a collection that was started 180 years ago? After they finished all seven "statements", they asked for additional comments. I immediately held up my hand and asked why they would want to break up a collection and library that was one of the ten most outstanding libraries in the U.S. for local history and genealogy. I said, "Mothball it, shorten hours, charge if you must, but DON'T break up the the collection - once gone, it is permanently GONE." I also read the most important points of the Executive Order for those who didn't know about it. State Representative Fred Durhal, Jr., District 6 (that includes Wayne area), took exception to my remarks. He introduced himself to the group and said he was on the Appropriations Committee and deep cuts MUST be made even if we don't like them. He said U of M in the Gutenberg Project is providing thousands of scanned books and he seemed to think that those in the Library of Michigan were covered (they are not all covered.) Anyway, I had several other people give me the "thumbs up" sign when I was done with my passionate plea to retain the library You can reach Fred Durhal, Jr. at P.O. Box 30014, Lansing, MI 48909-7514; or freddurhal@house.mi.gov or toll-free (877) 877-9007 If others went to the Town Hall Meeting this week in Royal Oak, they could also comment after the section on Education and at the close. I would suggest some sitting in one row and some in another and more than one person asking to speak in the roving mike. That way, there would be multiple people being vocal about their support. They could each mention a different aspect of the order. Isn't "*Eliminating* or transferring to other suitable institutions the Federal Documents Depository and *the non-Michigan Genealogy collection*" somewhat akin to "book burning"? Are not books relating to the first thirteen colonies essential to history research on the formation of the United States? Isn't the role of New York in sending people to Michigan important to our state history? Many points could be made. I think a call to the Royal Oak newspaper or police department or high school might elicit the date of the Town Hall Meeting but I know it is scheduled for this week. Obviously, they don't want many people to show up. Call or email Lt Gov. John Cherry's office to find out. The more the merrier! FYI: There were only 12 people in the auditorium at 5:52 p.m., 26 people at 6:06 p.m. They didn't start until 6:22 and at a max there were 35 people including about 7 Wayne Univ. administrators. All Wayne staff were urged by email to attend. Obviously, it didn't work. 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--- On Thu, 7/16/09, Patricia Hamp <patgen@casair.net> wrote: From: Patricia Hamp <patgen@casair.net> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Fw: MGC - Library of Michigan Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 9:32 AM Please forward. PUBLIC RELEASE                                                               July 15, 2009 To Whom It May Concern: As you may be aware, Michigan is facing a huge financial crisis.  Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm issued Executive Order 2009-36 dissolving the Department of History, Arts & Libraries and splitting the various functions between various other state departments.  The Library of Michigan would be transferred to the Department of Education, and the Archives of Michigan would be transferred to the Department of Natural Resources.  This order would take effect October 1, 2009. What is of concern is Section B (8) of the Executive Order that states: “Unless the Superintendent finds it impracticable, these measures shall include, but not limited to, all of the following: (a) Eliminating circulation of specific collections (including, but not limited to, the Main, Dewey, and General Reference collections, the Michigan collection, the Michigan Documents collection, and the Rare Book collection) or, alternatively, transferring such collections to other suitable institutions, . . . (c) Suspending or eliminating participation as a participating lending library in MeLCat, (d) Eliminating or transferring to other suitable institutions the Federal Documents Depository and the non-Michigan genealogy collection.” The Executive Order directs the Superintendent of Public Instruction to continue to look for ways to reduce library costs. Also in the Executive Order is the formation of a committee to look at how to further reduce costs for the next fiscal year.  The Executive Order can be reviewed at http://www.michigan.gov/gov/0,1607,7-168-21975---,00.html. In response to the Executive Order, ten (10) Michigan senators have introduced bills (SB 503 – SB 527) transferring all functions of the Department of History, Arts & Libraries to the Department of State.  This would include a separate pot of money from the general fund, held by the Department of Treasury, for any donations.  The donations that are not spent at the end of the fiscal year remain in the account and are not transferred to the general fund.  These bills are currently in a Senate subcommittee. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2009-2010/billanalysis/Senate/pdf/2009-SFA-0503-S.pdf . While the Michigan Genealogical Council understands the crises the state is in financially, we feel that breaking up the collection at the Library, which has items dating back to the 1800s, is not the answer.  Once this collection is gone, there is no going back.  This would be a great loss to the citizens of this state as well as those that come to our state to use this collection.  This would also be a blow to all public libraries, as they receive part of their funding from the library and have access to MeLCat, which is the system used for interlibrary loan. The Council would like to encourage everyone to contact their legislators (in person, by phone, or by mail – snail mail is more effective) to help save one of our most valuable resources.  For a listing of Michigan legislators, you can visit the following website: House (http://house.michigan.gov/find_a_rep.asp) and Senate (http://senate.michigan.gov/SenatorInfo/find-your-senator.htm). Please contact your family, friends, coworkers, societies, listserves, and anyone else you can think and encourage them to show their support for the Library and its fabulous collection.  Let us band together and save our state’s history. Thank you for your support, Cynthia Grostick, President Michigan Genealogical Council http://mimgc.org president@mimgc.org -- To wander in the fields of flowers pull the thorns from your heart. The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** -------------------------------

Please forward. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tom Koselka <tom@mimgc.org> Date: Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:57 PM Subject: MGC - Library of Michigan To: grambau@gmail.com PUBLIC RELEASE July 15, 2009 To Whom It May Concern: As you may be aware, Michigan is facing a huge financial crisis. Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm issued Executive Order 2009-36 dissolving the Department of History, Arts & Libraries and splitting the various functions between various other state departments. The Library of Michigan would be transferred to the Department of Education, and the Archives of Michigan would be transferred to the Department of Natural Resources. This order would take effect October 1, 2009. What is of concern is Section B (8) of the Executive Order that states: “Unless the Superintendent finds it impracticable, these measures shall include, but not limited to, all of the following: (a) Eliminating circulation of specific collections (including, but not limited to, the Main, Dewey, and General Reference collections, the Michigan collection, the Michigan Documents collection, and the Rare Book collection) or, alternatively, transferring such collections to other suitable institutions, . . . (c) Suspending or eliminating participation as a participating lending library in MeLCat, (d) Eliminating or transferring to other suitable institutions the Federal Documents Depository and the non-Michigan genealogy collection.” The Executive Order directs the Superintendent of Public Instruction to continue to look for ways to reduce library costs. Also in the Executive Order is the formation of a committee to look at how to further reduce costs for the next fiscal year. The Executive Order can be reviewed at http://www.michigan.gov/gov/0,1607,7-168-21975---,00.html. In response to the Executive Order, ten (10) Michigan senators have introduced bills (SB 503 – SB 527) transferring all functions of the Department of History, Arts & Libraries to the Department of State. This would include a separate pot of money from the general fund, held by the Department of Treasury, for any donations. The donations that are not spent at the end of the fiscal year remain in the account and are not transferred to the general fund. These bills are currently in a Senate subcommittee. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2009-2010/billanalysis/Senate/pdf/2009-SFA-0503-S.pdf . While the Michigan Genealogical Council understands the crises the state is in financially, we feel that breaking up the collection at the Library, which has items dating back to the 1800s, is not the answer. Once this collection is gone, there is no going back. This would be a great loss to the citizens of this state as well as those that come to our state to use this collection. This would also be a blow to all public libraries, as they receive part of their funding from the library and have access to MeLCat, which is the system used for interlibrary loan. The Council would like to encourage everyone to contact their legislators (in person, by phone, or by mail – snail mail is more effective) to help save one of our most valuable resources. For a listing of Michigan legislators, you can visit the following website: House (http://house.michigan.gov/find_a_rep.asp) and Senate (http://senate.michigan.gov/SenatorInfo/find-your-senator.htm). Please contact your family, friends, coworkers, societies, listserves, and anyone else you can think and encourage them to show their support for the Library and its fabulous collection. Let us band together and save our state’s history. Thank you for your support, Cynthia Grostick, President Michigan Genealogical Council http://mimgc.org president@mimgc.org -- To wander in the fields of flowers pull the thorns from your heart. Rumi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.16/2240 - Release Date: 07/15/09 17:58:00

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Patsy, I have just gotten back from an exhausting trip. Apology for not responding sooner. I am grateful for any and all help. There may be a connection. There was something about a wife passing and marrying a cousin of the wife or sister...?? I believe that was Joseph Walters (My great grand father) but only stories at this point. Curious that yours is somewhat similar. Also, I have a great uncle that played steel guitar, Chum was what they called him, I will have to double check but I think his name was Daniel? Anyway, I will get it together and check all my info I have and list some names and dates and see if any of yours match up. Dick Rohr, As I said to Patsy, sorry for not responding sooner, All help is gratefully appreciated! I don't recall Cheboygan County coming up in any "chats" but of course that does not mean they are not relatives. I will check out what I have and get more information on here, first names as you said. Might be a connection. Thank you very much for offering. Theresa Walters twalters@houstoncountyga.org ----- Original Message ----- From: mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:00 AM Subject: MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 160 ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** Today's Topics: 1. Re: Walters.//attention Rgrumpy (PATSY) 2. Re: where would I find information about the restaurants then (Diane Carpenter) 3. Re: MI 1950 restaurants (shirley m brown) 4. Re: where would I find information aboutthe restaurants then (shirley m brown) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:21:21 -0700 (PDT) From: PATSY <precious2842@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Walters.//attention Rgrumpy To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <206088.57526.qm@web35507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 i had some partial relatives that lived in West Branch, Ogemaw county, michigan..... ? Clem and Goldie Walters..... they had two boys, Ron and Gary ? they use to play?in a local bar in St. Helen... ? would like to know if you have these on your list....i do not know the date of their deaths... ? my great uncle Zina Best(brother to my grandmother Martha, my dad's mother)?was married to her mother Luellla who was first married to his brother years prior...which i am not sure was the father of Goldie...i don't have that info... ? Patsy? --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Rgrumpy1029@aol.com <Rgrumpy1029@aol.com> wrote: From: Rgrumpy1029@aol.com <Rgrumpy1029@aol.com> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Walters. To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:59 AM Theresa, there are several 'Walters' buried up here in Cheboygan County.? Furnish the first names and I will see what I can find - although my book lists? only burials up to 1982. Dick Rohr, Indian River. **************Dell Summer Savings: Cool Deals on Popular Laptops ? Shop Now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222696924x1201468348/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D1) ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:56 -0400 From: "Diane Carpenter" <dlcarpenter@wideopenwest.com> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information about the restaurants then To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003c01c9fb53$b9478820$2bd69860$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Have you tried the Southfield Historical Society? Southfield Historical Society at (248)796-4600 http://www.cityofsouthfield.com/Visitors/AboutSouthfield/HistoryofSouthfield /tabid/143/Default.aspx -----Original Message----- From: mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of shirley m brown Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:32 AM To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information about the restraurants then ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:09:23 -0400 From: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] MI 1950 restaurants To: "Patricia Hamp" <patgen@casair.net> Cc: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <0E7431CCEFC34379905F66E91CDE68F2@annd63866853ae> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original thank you for the advice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Hamp" <patgen@casair.net> To: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: Re: MI 1950 restaurants > Shirley, > > An option is to find your mother's first marriage record. They probably > married within the year of your birth? Another one would be to find the > divorce at the appropriate courthouse if that is what happened to the > first > marriage. > > Is there anyone else in your mother's family that would be old enough to > remember and could help with some clues? > > Pat Hamp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com> > To: "Patricia Hamp" <patgen@casair.net>; <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:49 AM > Subject: Re: MI 1950 restaurants > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: shirley, >> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] reference restaurants 1950 >> >> This is where it is a bit of a challenge. Mother had remarried and I was >> very young. My step-dad adopted me and we moved away from MI. So I never >> knew about my other family. Until I found some papers of the adoption. I >> talked to mom about it by now she couldn't remember much. I am 58 years >> old >> and would like to complete the real line of my family. Mom died and never >> could remember much, had memory problems. What she could remember was >> about >> the restaurant and that my dad is Greek. I just don't were esle to go. I >> am >> planning a trip to MI next though. >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.2/2213 - Release Date: 07/01/09 > 18:07:00 > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.2/2213 - Release Date: 07/01/09 18:07:00 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:10:56 -0400 From: "shirley m brown" <yankeeduck43@cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information aboutthe restaurants then To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Cc: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <42C0F503A3AD4A8F9B6119B32854CD40@annd63866853ae> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original And, thank you also ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Carpenter" <dlcarpenter@wideopenwest.com> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] where would I find information aboutthe restaurants then > Have you tried the Southfield Historical Society? 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