Have you tried looking for the Ploufs in Quebec Canada ? There used to be a series on TV titled " The Plouffe Family" and they were French Canadians. Just a thought. dotsy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Bodrie" <dbodrie@juno.com> To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: [MI-Genealogy] Help > Hello All, > > I'm hoping someone out there may be able to point me in the right > direction. I am search for my "Pluff, Ploof, Plum, branches without much > success. (12 yrs). My 2nd great-grandfather was Frank Ploof, who was > married to Mary Vermet. They lived in Berlin Twp, Monroe, Mi in the > middle 1800's Frank died in 1881 in Berlin Twp. The tree stops there. > I know Frank's parent's names were Maurice (Morris) Ploof and Margaret > Carriere. The only thing I can find is that they were from Canada, maybe > Sandwich? My rumors state that Margaret Carriere was Indian maybe from > the Machinaw Island Indians? I believe Maurice may have been born abt, > 1830? Any help or direction would be most appreciated. My father's > line - I have 8000 names "Beaudry" - this Pluff line is killing me :). > > > Sincerely - Don > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > MIGenWeb. Michigan Genealogy. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/ > Locate resources, browse counties, search and contribute to special projects. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/05

City Directories for Detroit are available through your local Family History Center on microfiche and microfilm. They start at 1837, 1845,1846, and then annually from 1850 through 1935. You don't need to know an occupation, since all householders or persons currently employed are listed alphabetically with street addresses and their current occupation. I have found this an invaluable resource. Barbara

Kathy- Thanks for the list of old-time diseases. Several people have mentioned the prevalence of diarrhea in earlier times. My g-grandfather contracted diarrhea during his service in the Civil War, like many other soldiers, and apparently suffered with it for the rest of his life. Also, according to his service and pension records obtained from the National Archives, he ended his days in Eloise, at that time a mental institution in Wayne County. His doctors at times spoke of him as being senile or as having "swelling of the brain." Anyone know what the modern equivalent of "swelling of the brain" would be. Barbara Rhinebeck, NY

Thank you for the list of old occupations. Several of them have already enlightened me as to the exact occupations of my own ancestors. Barbara

There is a Ploof Family in the Bay County area in the 1800's. Check the Bay County MIGenWeb at: http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/bay "Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it." --Rumi Donna Hoff-Grambau Michigan Family History Network Bay County MIGenWeb Isabella County MIGenWeb Midland County MIGenWeb Missaukee County MIGenWeb -----Original Message----- From: Wilson D. Dysart [mailto:vorbdysart@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 4:32 PM To: MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] Help I don't have Pluff or Ploof, but have done a bit on Plumb in Michigan (often spelled freely as Plum or Plumbe) and corresponded in that line via e-mail with others. If you want to share findings check me out as vorbdysart@Juno.com Vel On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:02:41 -0500 Donald Bodrie <dbodrie@juno.com> writes: > Hello All, > > I'm hoping someone out there may be able to point me in the right > direction. I am search for my "Pluff, Ploof, Plum, branches without > much > success. (12 yrs). My 2nd great-grandfather was Frank Ploof, who > was > married to Mary Vermet. They lived in Berlin Twp, Monroe, Mi in > the > middle 1800's Frank died in 1881 in Berlin Twp. The tree stops > there. > I know Frank's parent's names were Maurice (Morris) Ploof and > Margaret > Carriere. The only thing I can find is that they were from Canada, > maybe > Sandwich? My rumors state that Margaret Carriere was Indian maybe > from > the Machinaw Island Indians? I believe Maurice may have been born > abt, > 1830? Any help or direction would be most appreciated. My > father's > line - I have 8000 names "Beaudry" - this Pluff line is killing me > :). > > > Sincerely - Don > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > MIGenWeb. Michigan Genealogy. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/ > Locate resources, browse counties, search and contribute to special > projects. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== MI-Genealogy Subscribe and Unsubscribe Instructions Administrator Contacts, Rules and Guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/maillist.html ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

I don't have Pluff or Ploof, but have done a bit on Plumb in Michigan (often spelled freely as Plum or Plumbe) and corresponded in that line via e-mail with others. If you want to share findings check me out as vorbdysart@Juno.com Vel On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:02:41 -0500 Donald Bodrie <dbodrie@juno.com> writes: > Hello All, > > I'm hoping someone out there may be able to point me in the right > direction. I am search for my "Pluff, Ploof, Plum, branches without > much > success. (12 yrs). My 2nd great-grandfather was Frank Ploof, who > was > married to Mary Vermet. They lived in Berlin Twp, Monroe, Mi in > the > middle 1800's Frank died in 1881 in Berlin Twp. The tree stops > there. > I know Frank's parent's names were Maurice (Morris) Ploof and > Margaret > Carriere. The only thing I can find is that they were from Canada, > maybe > Sandwich? My rumors state that Margaret Carriere was Indian maybe > from > the Machinaw Island Indians? I believe Maurice may have been born > abt, > 1830? Any help or direction would be most appreciated. My > father's > line - I have 8000 names "Beaudry" - this Pluff line is killing me > :). > > > Sincerely - Don > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > MIGenWeb. Michigan Genealogy. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/ > Locate resources, browse counties, search and contribute to special > projects. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >

Hello All, I'm hoping someone out there may be able to point me in the right direction. I am search for my "Pluff, Ploof, Plum, branches without much success. (12 yrs). My 2nd great-grandfather was Frank Ploof, who was married to Mary Vermet. They lived in Berlin Twp, Monroe, Mi in the middle 1800's Frank died in 1881 in Berlin Twp. The tree stops there. I know Frank's parent's names were Maurice (Morris) Ploof and Margaret Carriere. The only thing I can find is that they were from Canada, maybe Sandwich? My rumors state that Margaret Carriere was Indian maybe from the Machinaw Island Indians? I believe Maurice may have been born abt, 1830? Any help or direction would be most appreciated. My father's line - I have 8000 names "Beaudry" - this Pluff line is killing me :). Sincerely - Don

I enjoyed this list, very enlightening, but I didn't see what my grandfather and his sister's obituaries listed as the cause of death; "a shock of paralysis" - is that another way of saying a stroke? Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Londo Barnes" <digginroots@yahoo.com> To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:59 PM Subject: [MI-Genealogy] Old Time Disease Names > Here's the list. > Kathy > > ABLEPSY Blindness > ABSCESS A localized collection of pus buried in > tissues, organs, or confined spaces of the body, often > accompanied by swelling and inflammation and > frequently caused by bacteria > ABLEPSY Blindness > ACUTE MANIA Severe insanity > ADDISON'S DISEASE A disease characterized by severe > weakness, low blood pressure, and a bronzed coloration > of the skin, due to decreased secretion of cortisol > from the adrenal gland. Also known as bronzed skin > disease > AGUE Used to define the recurring fever & chills of > malarial infection > AMERICAN PLAGUE Yellow fever > ANASARCA Generalized massive edema (swelling) > APHONIA Laryngitis > APHTHA Thrush > APOPLEXY Paralysis due to stroke > ASPHYCSIA/ASPHICSIA Cyanotic and lack of oxygen > ATROPHY Wasting away (generally from lack of use, i.e. > muscles) > BAD BLOOD Syphilis > BILIOUS FEVER Typhoid, malaria, hepatitis > BILIOUSNESS Jaundice or other symptoms associated with > liver disease; may also have been any upset leading to > vomiting bile or just vomiting > BLACK FEVER Acute infection with high temperature and > dark red skin lesions and high mortality rate > BLACK JAUNDICE Wiel's Disease; Black Water fever > (deadly form of malaria) > BLACK PLAGUE OR DEATH Bubonic plague > BLACK POX Black Smallpox > BLACK VOMIT Vomiting old black blood due to ulcers or > yellow fever > BLACKWATER FEVER Dark urine associated with high > temperature (deadly form of malaria) > BLADDER IN THROAT Diphtheria (?) > BLOOD POISONING Bacterial infection; septicemia > BLOODY FLUX Bloody stools > BLOODY SWEAT Sweating sickness > BONE SHAVE Sciatica > BRAIN FEVER Meningitis > BREAKBONE Dengue fever > BRIGHT'S DISEASE Chronic inflammatory disease of > kidneys > BRONZE JOHN Yellow fever > BRUCELLOSIS Humans become infected by coming in > contact with animals or animal products that are > contaminated with these bacteria. In humans > brucellosis can cause a range of symptoms that are > similar to the flu and may include fever, sweats, > headaches, back pains, and physical weakness. Sever > infections of the central nervous systems or lining of > the heart may occur. Brucellosis cab also cause > long-lasting or chronic symptoms that include > recurrent fevers, joint pain, and fatigue - See MILK > FEVER > BULE Boil, tumor or swelling > CACHEXY Malnutrition > CACOGASTRIC Upset stomach > CACOSPYSY Irregular pulse > CADUCEUS Subject to falling sickness or epilepsy > CAMP FEVER Typhus; aka Camp diarrhea > CANINE MADNESS Rabies, hydrophobia > CANKER Ulceration of mouth or lips or herpes simplex > CATALEPSY Seizures / trances > CATARRHAL Nose and throat discharge from cold or > allergy > CEREBRITIS Inflammation of cerebrum or lead poisoning > CHILBLAIN Swelling of extremities caused by exposure > to cold > CHILD BED FEVER Infection following birth of a child > CHIN COUGH Whooping cough > CHLOROSIS Iron deficiency anemia; leukemia > CHOLECYSTITUS Inflammation of the gall bladder > CHOLELITHIASIS Gall stones > CHOLERA Acute severe contagious diarrhea with > intestinal lining sloughing > CHOLERA MORBUS Characterized by nausea, vomiting, > abdominal cramps, elevated temperature, etc. Could be > appendicitis > CHOREA Disease characterized by convulsions, > contortions and dancing > COLD PLAGUE Ague which is characterized by chills > COLIC An abdominal pain and cramping > COMMOTION Concussion > CONGESTION Any collection of fluid in an organ, like > the lungs > CONGESTIVE CHILLS Malaria > CONGESTIVE CHILLS Malaria with diarrhea > CONGESTIVE FEVER Malaria > CONSUMPTION Tuberculosis; Wasting sickness > CORRUPTION Infection > CORYZA A cold > COSTIVENESS Constipation > CRAMP COLIC Appendicitis > CROP SICKNESS Overextended stomach > CROUP Laryngitis, diphtheria, or strep throat > CYANOSIS Dark skin color from lack of oxygen in blood > CYNANCHE Diseases of throat > CYSTITIS Inflammation of the bladder > DAY FEVER Fever lasting one day; sweating sickness > DEBILITY Lack of movement or staying in bed > DECREPITUDE Feebleness due to old age > DELIRIUM TREMENS Hallucinations due to alcoholism > DENGUE Infectious fever endemic to East Africa > DENTITION Cutting of teeth > DEPLUMATION Tumor of the eyelids which causes hair > loss > DIARY FEVER A fever that lasts one day > DIPTHERIA Contagious disease of the throat > DISTEMPER Usually animal disease with malaise, > discharge from nose and throat, anorexia > DOCK FEVER Yellow fever > DROPSY Edema (swelling), often caused by kidney or > heart disease > DROPSY OF THE BRAIN Encephalitis > DRY BELLYACHE Lead poisoning > DYSCRASY An abnormal body condition > DYSENTERY Inflammation of colon with frequent passage > of mucous and blood > DYSOREXY Reduced appetite > DYSPEPSIA Indigestion and heartburn. Heart attack > symptoms > DYSURY Difficulty in urination > ECLAMPSY Symptoms of epilepsy, convulsions during > labor > ECSTASY A form of catalepsy characterized by loss of > reason > EDEMA Nephrosis; swelling of tissues > EDEMA OF LUNGS Congestive heart failure, a form of > dropsy > EEL THING Erysipelas > ELEPHANTIASIS A form of leprosy > ENCEPHALITIS Swelling of brain; aka sleeping sickness > ENTERIC FEVER Typhoid fever > ENTERITIS Inflations of the bowels > ENTEROCOLITIS Inflammation of the intestines > EPITAXIS Nose bleed > ERYSIPELAS Contagious skin disease, due to > Streptococci with vesicular and bulbous lesions > erysipelas: Contagious infection of the skin and > underlying tissue, caused by group A B-hemolytic > streptococcus bacteria. Erysipelas causes affected > areas of skin to turn bright red and become slightly > swollen. The swollen blotches have a distinct border > and slowly expand into the surrounding skin. The > lesions are most commonly seen on the face, scalp, > hands, and legs. They feel hot to the touch and the > patient is feverish. Centuries ago erysipelas > epidemics caused severe and often fatal infections. > Today erysipelas is a rather mild and relatively rare > infection that clears up rapidly when penicillin or > other antibiotics are taken > > EXTRAVASTED BLOOD Rupture of a blood vessel > FALLING SICKNESS Epilepsy > FATTY LIVER Cirrhosis of liver > FITS Sudden attack or seizure of muscle activity > FLUX An excessive flow or discharge of fluid like > hemorrhage or diarrhea > FLUX OF HUMOUR Circulation > FRENCH POX Syphilis > GATHERING A collection of pus > GLANDULAR FEVER Mononucleosis > GOUT an inflammation usually of an extremity > GREAT POX Syphilis > GREEN FEVER / SICKNESS Anemia > GRIPPE/GRIP Influenza like symptoms > GROCER'S ITCH Skin disease caused by mites in sugar or > flour > HALLUCINATION Delirium > HEART SICKNESS Condition caused by loss of salt from > body > HEAT STROKE Body temperature elevates because of > surrounding environment temperature and body does not > perspire to reduce temperature. Coma and death result > if not reversed > HECTICAL COMPLAINT Recurrent fever > HEMATEMESIS Vomiting blood > HEMATURIA Bloody urine > HEMIPLEGY Paralysis of one side of body > HIP GOUT Osteomyelitis, a staph infection > HORRORS Delirium tremens > HYDROCEPHALUS Enlarged head, water on the brain > HYDROPERICARDIUM Heart dropsy > HYDROPHOBIA Rabies > HYDROTHROAX Dropsy in chest > HYPERTROPHIC Enlargement of organ, like the heart > IMPETIGO Contagious skin disease characterized by > pustules > INANITION Physical condition resulting from lack of > food > INFANTILE PARALYSIS Polio > INTESTINAL COLIC Abdominal pain due to improper diet > JAIL FEVER Typhus > JAUNDICE Condition caused by blockage of intestines > KING'S EVIL Scrofula, a tubercular infection of the > throat lymph glands; also sometimes syphilis > KRUCHHUSTEN Whooping cough > LA GRIPPE Flu; influenza > LOCKJAW Tetanus or infectious disease affecting the > muscles of the neck and jaw. Untreated, it is fatal in > 8 days > LONG SICKNESS Tuberculosis > LUES DISEASE Syphilis > LUES VENERA Venereal disease; syphilis > LUMBAGO Back pain > LUNG FEVER Pneumonia > LUNG SICKNESS Tuberculosis > LYING IN Time of delivery of infant > MALIGNANT SORE THROAT Diphtheria > MANIA Insanity > MARASMUS Progressive wasting away of body, like > malnutrition > MEMBRANOUS CROUP Diphtheria > MENINGITIS Inflations of brain or spinal cord > METRITIS Inflammation of uterus or purulent vaginal > discharge > MIASMA Poisonous vapors thought to infect the air > MILK FEVER Disease from drinking contaminated milk, > like undulant fever or brucellosis > MILK LEG Phlebitis; a painful swelling of the leg soon > after childbirth, due to thrombosis of the large > veins; Painful swelling of the leg beginning at the > ankle and ascending or at the groin and extending down > the thigh... its usual cause is infection after labor; > Post partum thrombophlebitis > MILK SICKNESS Disease from milk of cattle which had > eaten poisonous weeds > MORMAL Gangrene > MORPHEW Scurvy blisters on the body > MORTIFICATION Gangrene of necrotic tissue; Infection > MYELITIS Inflammation of the spine > MYOCARDITIS Inflammation of heart muscles > NECROSIS Mortification of bones or tissue > NEPHROSIS Kidney degeneration > NEPRITIS Inflammation of kidneys > NERVOUS PROSTRATION Extreme exhaustion from inability > to control physical and mental activities > NEURALGIA Described as discomfort, such as "Headache" > was neuralgia in head > NOSTALGIA Homesickness > PALSY Paralysis or uncontrolled movement of controlled > muscles. It was listed as "Cause of death" > PAROXYSM Convulsion > PEMPHIGUS Skin disease of watery blisters > PERICARDITIS Inflammation of heart > PERIPNEUMONIA Inflammation of lungs > PERITONOTIS Inflammation of abdominal area > PETECHIAL FEVER Fever characterized by skin spotting > PHLEGMASIA ALBA DOLENS Milk Leg - Painful thrombosis > of the femoral vein in the leg following childbirth > PHTHIRIASIS Lice infestation > PHTHISIS Chronic wasting away or a name for > tuberculosis > PLAGUE An acute febrile highly infectious disease with > a high fatality rate > PLEURISY Any pain in the chest area with each breath > PODAGRA Gout > POLIOMYELITIS PolioPotter's asthma Fibroid pthisis > POTT'S DISEASE Tuberculosis of spine > PROTEIN DISEASE Gomerulonephritis; a once relatively > common childhood kidney disease that causes the kidney > to leak protein. This is a secondary (allergic) > reaction to certain kinds of strep infections > PUERPERAL EXHAUSTION Death due to child birth > PUERPERAL EXHAUSTION Death due to childbirth > PUERPERAL FEVER Elevated temperature after giving > birth to an infant > PUKING FEVER Milk sickness > PUTRID FEVER Diphtheria. > QUINSY Tonsillitis. > REMITTING FEVER Malaria > RHEUMATISM Any disorder associated with pain in joints > > RICKETS Disease of skeletal system > ROSE COLD Hay fever or nasal symptoms of an allergy > ROTANNY FEVER (Child's disease) ??? > RUBEOLA German measles > SANGUINEOUS CRUST Scab > SCARLATINA Scarlet fever > SCARLET FEVER A disease characterized by red rash > SCARLET RASH Roseola > SCIATICA Rheumatism in the hips > SCIRRHUS Cancerous tumors > SCOTOMY Dizziness, nausea and dimness of sight > SCREWS Rheumatism > SCREWS Rheumatism > SCRIVENER'S PALSY Writer's cramp > SCROFULA Tuberculosis of neck lymph glands. Progresses > slowly with abscesses and pistulas develop. Young > person's disease > SCRUMPOX Skin disease, impetigo > SCURVY Lack of vitamin C. Symptoms of weakness, spongy > gums and hemorrhages under skin > SEPTICEMIA Blood poisoning > SHAKES Delirium tremens > SHAKING Chills, ague > SHINGLES Viral disease with skin blisters > SHIP FEVER Typhus > SIRIASIS Inflammation of the brain due to sun exposure > > SLOES Milk sickness > SMALL POX Contagious disease with fever and blisters > SOFTENING OF BRAIN Result of stroke or hemorrhage in > the brain, with an end result of the tissue softening > in that area > SORE THROAT DISTEMPER Diphtheria or quinsy > SPANISH INFLUENZA Epidemic influenza > SPASMS Sudden involuntary contraction of muscle or > group of muscles, like a convulsion > SPINA BIFIDA Deformity of spine > SPOTTED FEVER Either typhus or meningitis > SPRUE Tropical disease characterized by intestinal > disorders and sore throat > ST. ANTHONY'S FIRE Also erysipelas, but named so > because of affected skin areas are bright red in > appearance > ST. VITAS DANCE Ceaseless occurrence of rapid complex > jerking movements performed involuntary > STOMATITIS Inflammation of the mouth > STRANGER'S FEVER Yellow fever > STRANGERY Rupture > SUDOR ANGLICUS Sweating sickness > SUMMER COMPLAINT Diarrhea, usually in infants caused > by spoiled milk > SUNSTROKE Uncontrolled elevation of body temperature > due to environment heat. Lack of sodium in the body is > a predisposing cause > SWAMP SICKNESS Could be malaria, typhoid or > encephalitis > SWEATING SICKNESS Infectious and fatal disease common > to UK in 15th century > TEETHING tooth infections with inflammation > TETANUS Infectious fever characterized by high fever, > headache and dizziness > THROMBOSIS Blood clot inside blood vessel > THRUSH Childhood disease characterized by spots on > mouth, lips and throat > TICK FEVER Rocky mountain spotted fever > TOXEMIA OF PREGNANCY Eclampsia > TRENCH MOUTH Painful ulcers found along gum line, > Caused by poor nutrition and poor hygiene > TUSSIS CONVULSIVA Whooping cough > TYPHUS Infectious fever characterized high fever, > headache, and dizziness > VARIOLA Smallpox > VENESECTION Bleeding > VIPER'S DANCE St. Vitus Dance > WATER ON BRAIN Enlarged head > WHITE SWELLING Tuberculosis of the bone > WINTER FEVER Pneumonia > WOMB FEVER Infection of the uterus. > WORM FIT Convulsions associated with teething, worms, > elevated temperature or diarrhea > YELLOWJACKET Yellow fever. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Diarrhea leads to dehydration and then death. IV fluids were not available in 1904. These deaths are easily prevented with modern medicine. Pat Marshall pgmarshall@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bmj62787@aol.com> To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] Re: huckster > My great-grandmother died in 1893 of diarrhea, which I thought was odd, > but > just read it was the 3rd leading cause of death in 1904, so I guess it was > not > so unusual! > > Marijo Nettles > Charleston SC > Researching the Smith families of Benzie and Manistee County > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > MIGenWeb. Michigan Genealogy. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/ > Locate resources, browse counties, search and contribute to special > projects. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Jodi, A good source to find any vital records office is www.vitalrec.com. From there you can order directly, or just click on links to various states' and counties' vital records offices and get more details. Michigan state vital records office is at http://www.michigan.gov/mdch/0,1607,7-132-4645---,00.html Your person might have died too early to be in the records, which start in 1867. They will search three years for one fee. If you have no idea of the death year you will have to pay quite a bit to search. (I would look for the city directories first; sometimes they even say the date someone died.) Michigan death records are available to anyone. Early Michigan deaths are online: http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/gendisx/index.htm These cover 1867-1897. The only Peter Johnson from Wayne Co. listed there was an infant. However you should have a look to see if any of the Peter's listed there ring a bell. Perhaps you can find Lucretia instead. Her death record would probably help narrow down the date for Peter's, as it would often state whether she was married or a widow. If you have the child's name that would be easier to find I would think, given the early dates. You can also go to a county courthouse to see what vital records they have (in this case Wayne Co.). And be sure to look on the site of the Michigan State Archives for more ideas of record types to search. http://www.michigan.gov/hal/0,1607,7-160-17445_19273---,00.html As to why he would have gone to Michigan in 1840, well, everyone was doing it! Michigan had just opened up in the 1830's with land grants. You should probably have a look on the land grants list as well, although it sounds like your guy was a city dweller. Try the Bureau of Land Management land records site: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/ To find Detroit city directories, try the Family History Library (familysearch.org, click on library catalog and search under place name, using "Detroit" and "Wayne" or try "Detroit" and "Michigan.") You can then order the microfilms from your local FHL. Carolyn At 9:17 PM -0500 1/7/05, CriminyJo@aol.com wrote: > >research. This is my first time posting to your mailing list. I am not at all >familiar with how records are availble in Michigan. I have been to the >USGenWeb site, and it is fabulous. I wish there were town pages to >go along with all >the great things on the State Site. > >I have been trying to hunt down a PETER BLANCHARD JOHNSON and his wife, >LEUCRETIA (WHEELER) JOHNSON. They were both born in Mass. Married in >Marblehead, >Essex County, MA. They had at least one child in Boston in 1827. -- Carolyn Ybarra Family Research Services 1017 El Camino Real, #332 Redwood City, CA 94063 ybarra@FamilyResearchServices.com http://www.genealogypro.com/family-research-services.html Researching SOUTHWELL (MA 1600s, CT 1700s, VT 1790-1810, NY 1800-1840, MI 1836 - present) BUSKE (MI and IL 1872-) EIGHMEY (NY 1800s) BISHOP (CT 1700s, NY 1800-1850) McKEE, MAGEE (NY 1800-1840, MI 1836-) ABBOTT (NY?, MI 1836-) WENDROW (NY 1900's) FULTERMAN/FUTTERMAN (NY 1900's) SOBEL (NY, NJ 1920-)

Hi Kathy Londo, Have you tried to a www.google.com search for the information you are looking for. I seem to remember seeing such a website, but I do not have the address. Richard From the shores of Grand Traverse Bay

Hello all, While I am new to research in your great state, I am not new to genealogical research. This is my first time posting to your mailing list. I am not at all familiar with how records are availble in Michigan. I have been to the USGenWeb site, and it is fabulous. I wish there were town pages to go along with all the great things on the State Site. I have been trying to hunt down a PETER BLANCHARD JOHNSON and his wife, LEUCRETIA (WHEELER) JOHNSON. They were both born in Mass. Married in Marblehead, Essex County, MA. They had at least one child in Boston in 1827. This is where it gets tricky. I have a note written to my g-grandmother, from a woman we have figured out to be Peter B. Johnson's sons daughters mother-in-law HAHA Regardless....it says there is a Johnson family bible up there in Maine, which has recorded in it, the names of these Johnson men and familes, some of whom moved to NYC and some to Detroit. She said she would write back with the exact dates, but I think she died before she could. I have been able to find a Peter B. Johnson in the 1840 Detroit census, but as we all know that does not tell me much. I am currently waiting to see if the daughter-in-law of the author of the letter will reply to me, but she is elderly and may have thought my letter was a scam, or maybe she is unable to help me. I have contacted so many outlets in Maine to see if I could locate this bible, I just do not have additional information other than Peter moved to Detroit, and may possibly have been recorded on that 1840 census. So this is the long shot of all long shots. Is there some centralized death index for the state ? Is there some form of vital records availble for Detroit for this time frame where I might be able to pin him down. Obviously, I have no idea when or where he died. In the event that somone out there recognizes him, Peter Blanchard Johnson was born 2/15/1805 in Marblehead, MA . He was the son of Peter Johnson and Priscilla (Proctor) Johnson. Luecretia WHEELER I believe was born in Boston, date unk. but their marriage took place in Boston on 11/12/1823. Peter B.'s siblings all seemed to have stayed in MA. (Lynn, Waltham, Worcester). I see no reason to answer why he would have moved so far away - could have been occupation, but I dont know what that was. He truly is one of my brick walls. If any of this means anything to anyone, or if anyone can point me to some kind of directory, I would appreciate it. I had hoped to find some kind of Street Directories, but not knowing his occupation is going to hurt me there. I have not been able to lcoate a will for his father, who died in 1848, which might have told me where his son moved to. I cannot even locate where his mother died, tho his fathers death records him as a widow. I have such bad luck for this group, the one yr Boston decided to NOT make a street directory, was the one yr I know his father lived in the city. I am exhausting all sources on my end and now hoping I can find some there. HELP :-) Jodi Andover MA USGenWeb Project Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~macandov/index.htm Tewksbury Hospital Cemetery Transcription Project http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tewksburyhospital/ cemeterywelcome.html

The occupation & disease lists that were recently sent are great. I started researching my roots about a year ago, but just signed up to this mailing list. I've learned more in the last couple days than during the past year. I am researching Henry August Budde (b. 8/1900) originally from Missouri who relocated with a brother, Ed, I believe, to Detroit, MI. His parents are William Budde and Minnie Kleinsick from Germany. I'm looking for the name of Henry's second wife, whom he was married to a short time before he past away around 1959. Also any information on William or Minnie's parents would be great. I am also researching Malcom Carnahan originally from Indiana, I believe, who relocated to Harrisville, MI. b.1895 d.1961. He was married to Pauline Lass b.1900 d. 1972. Any information on this couple's parents would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Kim

Kathy, Thanks a bunch for this fabulous list!! Do you think this disease came from the word "choreagraphy"? :*) CHOREA Disease characterized by convulsions, contortions and dancing Donna

My great-grandmother died in 1893 of diarrhea, which I thought was odd, but just read it was the 3rd leading cause of death in 1904, so I guess it was not so unusual! Marijo Nettles Charleston SC Researching the Smith families of Benzie and Manistee County

Thanks For the Try I have Three Ida At this time ???? Trying to find the right one Dave----- Original Message ----- From: <StarkT@aol.com> To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] Hendee > Dave, > > Took another look using her married name and found Noah, Ida (age 24) and a > two year old son Lloyd (b. OH). > > I think your target family has too many Idas! Good Luck sorting it all out. > > Tim > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > MI-Genealogy Subscribe and Unsubscribe Instructions > Administrator Contacts, Rules and Guidelines > http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/maillist.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

Dave, Took another look using her married name and found Noah, Ida (age 24) and a two year old son Lloyd (b. OH). I think your target family has too many Idas! Good Luck sorting it all out. Tim

David, In looking at the 1880 census, there is one Ida Hendee, age 18 living in Portland with parents Oscar & Rosa (both born in MI), younger sisters Lilly age 16 and Eva age 3. Hope this helps. Tim Naples

Hi Folks I'm looking for mother and father of Ida Hendee She Married Noah Lindsley on Oct. 12 1876 . What I have is she was born Oct. 23,1855 Death in May 2nd. 1924 Portland Michigan. Thanks Dave Nufer

Consumption was the name given to tuberculosis in the past. Pat Marshall pgmarshall@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie" <juliepaisley@comcast.net> To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] Re: huckster > Great question Kathy! > > I just ran across a notation of "quick consumption." Probably > Pneumonia, but who knows :) > > > Julie > > I'm always needing info on the Willets line in Michigan. Especially > any info on Sarah E. Waterhouse (Willets) b. 1844 - Death record - > Birth record or anything at all :) > > Benjamin Willets b. 1809 > William H. Willets b. 1839 (spouse of Sarah E. Waterhouse) > Daniel W. Willets b. 1869 > Stephen T. Willets b. 1879 > Robert Willets b. 1882 > > Mostly Ionia, Cheboygan & Branch County. Any Michigan Willets > information would be greatly appreciated. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Londo Barnes" <digginroots@yahoo.com> > To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:21 AM > Subject: [MI-Genealogy] Re: huckster > > > This was a great list of information. Now my > question: Does anyone know if there is a list > available on the diseases and their discriptions, from > back in the day? > > Thanks for sharing! > Kathy > "Digginroots" > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 01/06/2005 > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > MI-Genealogy Subscribe and Unsubscribe Instructions > Administrator Contacts, Rules and Guidelines > http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/maillist.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >