Craig, Thank you for your information! I have received so much help since yesterday! I welcome any other advice you may have in the future. Thanks again, Jodi ----- Original Message ----- From: Automag4play@cs.com<mailto:Automag4play@cs.com> To: MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] re: just worn out If you go to the County Clerks Office and they come up with nothing on your request, they will usually refund your payment. This has happened to me with three or four counties in Michigan. Craig Schooley ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== The MIGenWeb FGS Project. http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/fgs/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/fgs/> Join in this special project! Add your Family Group Sheets and browse for connections. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429<http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429>

Since all deaths are suppose to be reported to the state you can always go to Lansing to the Library of Michigan and look at death records on microfilm and then if you find a death record that might be the person you are looking for you can then go to the State of Michigan and request the death record look up. Also if you have an idea when the deat occurred and in what county the usual fee for the search is four dollars or at least that is what Wayne County charges for searches. If you can't get to Lansing you can call the Library of Michigan as they do have people who will do look ups for a small fee. The larger Cities in Michigan do not return checks when they do not find the person you are looking for. Once when I went to the Vital Statistics in Lansing before I came out of there I had spent quite a bit of money for nothing. So I was back to square one. I finally started doing the county searches first in person. The county clerks seem to have more time to do look ups as opposed to the State of Michigan because they do not like doing the footwork. I did have better luck with the Counties but that only works if you know what county they were living when they died. I was looking for my great grandmothers death record and when I wnet to the County she was born in they allowed me to look up the record myself but it seems someone else was looking for it and had sticky fingers. So I had to go to Lansing and obtain a copy. The only reason I was able to get it was that I had the death record number. When I had been at the State the week before they couldn't seem to find the record. But they sure did keep my money! When I related what had happened the prior week they gave me the copy without recharging me. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <Automag4play@cs.com> To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] re: just worn out > If you go to the County Clerks Office and they come up with nothing on > your > request, they will usually refund your payment. This has happened to me > with > three or four counties in Michigan. > > Craig Schooley > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > The MIGenWeb FGS Project. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/fgs/ > Join in this special project! Add your Family Group Sheets and browse for > connections. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

If you go to the County Clerks Office and they come up with nothing on your request, they will usually refund your payment. This has happened to me with three or four counties in Michigan. Craig Schooley

I'm trying to gather information on my Quinlan/Williams ancestors. My grandmother, Florence Monica Williams was supposedly born May 4, 1911. She used the middle name of Elizabeth because she didn't like Monica. My dad passed away in October and had a box of my grandmother's papers at his home. She had written that she was born in Detroit, MI at Dr. Taylor's house. (I would like to find her birth certificate.) She wrote that her father was Francis J. Williams from Wales and that he had left her mother before she was born. Her mother was Katherine Julian Quinlan, born about 1881 in Michigan. My grandmother mentioned something about her parents being married in Niles, Michigan. (I would like to find her birth certificate and a marriage license.) Katherine's parents were Patrick Quinlan (born Ireland per census) & Susan Meehan (born Montreal, Canada). They had several children besides Katherine - Joseph, Mary Ann, Rachel Bridget & Ellen. I did find Katherine Quinlan in the 1910 census in Part of Vicksburg Village, Brady Township, Kalamazoo County, Michigan with a 7 year old son named Anthony J. (I'm wondering if Francis J. Williams is also Anthony's father.) I found her in the 1920 census as Kathryn Williams living with her children (Anthony & Florence) & her mother Susan Quinlan still in Brady Township. On both censuses she claims she is a widow but my grandmother mentions this in her paper that her mother did that because she was embarrassed her husband had left her. I found her in the 1930 Dallas Township, Clinton County, Michigan census married to a man named Jaspar Wagar. I have no record of her death. I could not find my Quinlans on any of the census prior to 1910. If anyone has any information I would love to hear it and also any suggestions as to how I might locate the birth certificates and marriage license. Thank you! Terri

Thanks Rosalyn for the infor but I went into the State of Mi in Lansing and paid them $15.00 + and I got "0" results and no money back. (smile) Thanks again, Janet in cold cold Onaway, Mi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosalyn Genung" <rosalyngenung@talkamerica.net> To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:12 PM Subject: [MI-Genealogy] re: just worn out > You can apply to the state archives (cost about $15) for a search for your > Grandmother. They have every death in the state. > > Rosalyn in cold,cold,cold west Michigan > > > > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > Share memories about Michigan, to join MI-MEMORIES-L, send mail to > MI-MEMORIES-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the > message subject and body. To join MI-MEMORIES-D, do the same thing with > MI-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005

You can apply to the state archives (cost about $15) for a search for your Grandmother. They have every death in the state. Rosalyn in cold,cold,cold west Michigan

Hi Kathy, I'm not sure since her mom died at the age of 29. Her name was Lillian Boyer or Reynolds. I've searched these but came up "0". I'm 62 years old myself and live on SS so I can't afford to pay for a lot of " Sorry! No results. One thing I do know is grandma was born in Saginaw, Mi. in Feb. 28,1878/d.Feb.15,1945. Im not getting any younger and I wanted to try and get this done before my Aunt Ivelene passes. Its her mom and she knows nothing at all about her. My aunt is now 83yrs old . If you can't find anything, I'll understand. Thank you for trying, Janet Millmine/Fritz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Londo Barnes" <digginroots@yahoo.com> To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] just worn out > What was her maiden name? > > Kathy > > > --- Janet Fritz <jiff@mailaka.net> wrote: > >> I found info on g-g-grandfather but no one knew >> anything about my grand >> mother. She died when I was 3. How do I find info >> whenever I search. It >> always says, Your search results came up "0". Her >> married name was Lillian >> Elizebeth Milmine/Millmine. b. 1877/d.1945. Married >> to John Oliver Milmine. >> Is there any way you might be able to help me.? I >> understand she was born >> in Saginaw County Michigan and they also come up >> "0". Help.!!!!! >> jiff@mailaka.net >> >> >> >> -- >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - >> Release Date: 1/12/2005 >> >> >> ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== >> Share memories about Michigan, to join >> MI-MEMORIES-L, send mail to >> MI-MEMORIES-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single >> word subscribe in the message subject and body. To >> join MI-MEMORIES-D, do the same thing with >> MI-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com. >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about >> your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the >> last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > The MIGenWeb FGS Project. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/fgs/ > Join in this special project! Add your Family Group Sheets and browse for > connections. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005

I just saw your email and I am a Boyer from Michigan too. Should you find that her name was 'Boyer" - please let me know and possibly you are apart of my husbands family of Boyers who are from Muskegon and Trenton. MI JoAnne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Fritz" <jiff@mailaka.net> To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] just worn out > Hi Kathy, I'm not sure since her mom died at the age of 29. Her name > was Lillian Boyer or Reynolds. I've searched these but came up "0". I'm > 62 years old myself and live on SS so I can't afford to pay for a lot of " > Sorry! No results. One thing I do know is grandma was born in Saginaw, > Mi. in Feb. 28,1878/d.Feb.15,1945. Im not getting any younger and I > wanted to try and get this done before my Aunt Ivelene passes. Its her > mom and she knows nothing at all about her. My aunt is now 83yrs old . > If you can't find anything, I'll understand. Thank you for trying, Janet > Millmine/Fritz > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Londo Barnes" <digginroots@yahoo.com> > To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:35 PM > Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] just worn out > > >> What was her maiden name? >> >> Kathy >> >> >> --- Janet Fritz <jiff@mailaka.net> wrote: >> >>> I found info on g-g-grandfather but no one knew >>> anything about my grand >>> mother. She died when I was 3. How do I find info >>> whenever I search. It >>> always says, Your search results came up "0". Her >>> married name was Lillian >>> Elizebeth Milmine/Millmine. b. 1877/d.1945. Married >>> to John Oliver Milmine. >>> Is there any way you might be able to help me.? I >>> understand she was born >>> in Saginaw County Michigan and they also come up >>> "0". Help.!!!!! >>> jiff@mailaka.net >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - >>> Release Date: 1/12/2005 >>> >>> >>> ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== >>> Share memories about Michigan, to join >>> MI-MEMORIES-L, send mail to >>> MI-MEMORIES-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single >>> word subscribe in the message subject and body. To >>> join MI-MEMORIES-D, do the same thing with >>> MI-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about >>> your family and the >>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the >>> last 12 months. >>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== >> The MIGenWeb FGS Project. >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/fgs/ >> Join in this special project! Add your Family Group Sheets and browse >> for connections. >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> -- >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 >> >> > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > MI-Genealogy Subscribe and Unsubscribe Instructions > Administrator Contacts, Rules and Guidelines > http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/maillist.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Did you look for a death record in Saginaw Co. court records. If not there look in the county they lived in Dave Nufer----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Fritz" <jiff@mailaka.net> To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:21 PM Subject: [MI-Genealogy] just worn out > I found info on g-g-grandfather but no one knew anything about my grand > mother. She died when I was 3. How do I find info whenever I search. It > always says, Your search results came up "0". Her married name was Lillian > Elizebeth Milmine/Millmine. b. 1877/d.1945. Married to John Oliver Milmine. > Is there any way you might be able to help me.? I understand she was born > in Saginaw County Michigan and they also come up "0". Help.!!!!! > jiff@mailaka.net > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > Share memories about Michigan, to join MI-MEMORIES-L, send mail to MI-MEMORIES-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join MI-MEMORIES-D, do the same thing with MI-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

Julie, I am in the Bay area not too far from you. I live in the western end of Sunnyvale. KES

Thanks Kevin, I just today received the death record of the ANNA MARIE MUELLER that we thought my GGrandfather married. No where was the name MUELLER. We are puzzled. It said her full name was MARIE ANNA KALTEICH, but that is really her married surname. It said her father was PHILIP PULTE from Germany living in St.Louis, MO. The MUELLER is now a mystery. We did find marriage records for OTTO KALTEICH and ANNA MARIE MUELLER. So, who then is MARIE ANNA ? I haven't ruled out MUELLER as the names were found living in the same neighborhood in Chicago, Ill. on the 1900 census. I love Laguna Hills. I was born in California, grew up in Anaheim. The beach cities are my old stomping grounds. That was back in the 50's. I had a school watercolor painting in the Laguna Beach Art Festival in 1956 I think? I was the city Tether Ball Champion in 1954, at Horace Mann Elementary. Those were the days! Now, no one knows what tetherball is. Needless to say, I was a tom boy. Thanks for the memories. Patricia patrofshort@aol.com

Another spelling I've experience is - Savilla Donna -----Original Message----- From: Jodi Walder [mailto:divadiva111@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:39 PM To: MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] Just getting started... Concetta, Thanks for your informative reply! The links will be especially helpful. I chose my great-grandmother to search for first because my mom, her grand-daughter, said she has always been a mystery to her. There was never mention of Survilla's parents, siblings, etc... I love a challenge! I have access to the obit but I need to request a copy of it from the Kalamazoo Gazette. Thanks again! PS: Just in case you come across anything...Her name was Survilla (sp?) Her maiden name was Outman (sp?) and she was married twice. Her first married name was Curtis. Her second was Wellington. (that's my grandpa's father.) Jodi ----- Original Message ----- From: Concetta Franco<mailto:bigchipchipbabychip@yahoo.com> To: MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] Just getting started... Jodi, The best advice ANYONE can give you is to start with yourself and work backwards. Try to assemble a history of your life, then your mom and dad's, then your grandparents, then your greatgrandparents and give you something very easy and concise to look back at. It will save you a lot of trouble down the road! Next, talk to your family. Your family may know things, and if you start to talk about them, you may job memories (or better, gain a "you know who would know about that is...") Now, on to your query. Rootsweb is a great place to start! Athens and Kalamazoo are great hints - they're both in Calhoun County, Michigan. So start with what resources and information you can get off of the Calhoun County GenWeb, http://www.rootsweb.com/~micalhou/index.htm<http://www.rootsweb.com/~micalho u/index.htm>. I will warn you, however, that genealogy is typically recorded with the man's information since they were head of the household. So here are a few questions you'll probably need: 1. What's your great grandmother's married name vs maiden name? She'd be recorded under her father's household before she married *unless she had special circumstances*, and after she married, she'd be recorded under her married name. 2. When was she born and when did she die? Calhoun County has great cemetery resources, and you may find more of the family that way. When she was born will give you hints as to whether to search the 1850 or the 1880 census to find her. 3. Does her obituary give you any clues, like a parents name, a brothers name, etc? Those can help you place a missing female. Post what you know! Post everything but information about living individuals. The more you post, the more chance that someone will recognize a name. Calhoun County has two mailing lists, one for Rootsweb and one for its Genealogy Society. MICALHOU-L@Rootsweb.com<mailto:MICALHOU-L@Rootsweb.com> and CALHOUNCOUNTYGS@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CALHOUNCOUNTYGS@yahoogroups.com> The subscription information is near the bottom of the Calhoun County GenWeb site. Hopefully that's some useful help! Concetta Franco Alpena County GenWeb Coordinator (far, far away from Calhoun County :-) ) --- Jodi Walder <divadiva111@msn.com<mailto:divadiva111@msn.com>> wrote: > Hello All! > I am just getting started on searching for my > Great-Grandmother. Her name is Survilla Betsy > Outman,Curtis,Wellington. I only have access to her > obituary and a guess at her birthdate. I can't find > her anywhere! She was supposedly born in Athens > Michigan and lived in Kalamazoo. Where do you > suggest getting started and do you have any ideas of > searches I should try? I am baffled! > Thanks, > Jodi VanEngen-Walder > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > MI-Genealogy Subscribe and Unsubscribe Instructions > Administrator Contacts, Rules and Guidelines > http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/maillist.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~mig enweb/maillist.html> > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ash x> > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com<http://mail.yahoo.com/> ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== MIGenWeb. 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Janet, I found John and Lillian in Holly, Oakland County, Michigan in 1920 (Census). What you need is her maiden name. Do you have her death certificate? Hopefully it would provide that information. Also, if available, take a look at any vital record certificates of her offspring. Any of those should have her maiden name as well. It's also probable that her marriage took place about 1895 or so. You might consider looking for marriage info in Oakland County. Do you know where John MILMINE is buried? You could write to the cemetery for information on him and inquire if she is buried there as well. This might tell you more about her family members and vital information. If you know who handled the funeral arrangements, you could inquire if they handled hers, too. If you know she was in Saginaw, MI about 1945, try for an obituary. Sounds like you might have already. Sometimes the social column of the local newspaper will say things like, "Mrs SOANDSO visited her parents, Mr. and Mrs. UNKNOWN, for dinner in Lansing, Michigan last Sunday." This does take a lot of digging, but not impossible. Maybe if you don't live locally, you could view newspaper microfilm through your interlibrary loan. Just a thought. Hope these ideas help. When you find out, post your info. We are all curious for your success. Donna -----Original Message----- From: Janet Fritz [mailto:jiff@mailaka.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:22 PM To: MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MI-Genealogy] just worn out I found info on g-g-grandfather but no one knew anything about my grand mother. She died when I was 3. How do I find info whenever I search. It always says, Your search results came up "0". Her married name was Lillian Elizebeth Milmine/Millmine. b. 1877/d.1945. Married to John Oliver Milmine. Is there any way you might be able to help me.? I understand she was born in Saginaw County Michigan and they also come up "0". Help.!!!!! jiff@mailaka.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== Share memories about Michigan, to join MI-MEMORIES-L, send mail to MI-MEMORIES-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join MI-MEMORIES-D, do the same thing with MI-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Where are searching for info (census, marriage records, land, ss)? Are you using her maiden name or her married name? Do you know her father's name? I found most info about my 3rd great grandmother by searching out her father's family and her husband's records. I found her maiden name by searching for 3rd great grandfather in marriage records, that led to her maiden name and I was able to locate her family and her as far back as 1850 in census records. kes in northern ca

Pat and Kevin-I have an Emma Mueller in the Saginaw area who married Ernest Gruber. Ernest was my 2nd cousin. Do you have Emma in your lines? I know her father's name was Conrad, but not too much else about her family. Pam S.. > [Original Message] > From: <KevinOBrien8527@aol.com> > To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 1/19/2005 3:45:16 PM > Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] KALTEICH, SCHUENEMANN, MUELLER, PULTE, KIEHM > > Pat, > The Mueller name is quite common around the Saginaw, Merrill and Freeland > areas. I don't know if you are researching the line that crosses ours, but we > have a Mark Mueller who married Kay DuCharme in 1962. Let me know if I can be > of assistance to you. > > > Sincerely, > Kevin O'Brien > Laguna Hills, CA > Researching: > Jefferson County: Dorchester, Perkins, Van Schaick, Truax > Saginaw County, MI: (Hemlock-Richland Township) Perkins, (Jonesfield > Township-Merrill) Warner, Gauley, Shannon, (Gratiot County) Pinkerton, Gillie, > Genesee County, MI: (Flushing Township)Warner, Sundell > Ipswich, MA: Perkins' > Argentiul County, Quebec, Canada: Lowe, Shannon, Gillie, Ivall, DeRiviere, > Boyd, Stapleton. > Gray's Harbor and King County, Washington: Perkins, Stevens. Jorgenson > And anywhere else good information can be found! > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > MIGenWeb. Michigan Genealogy. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/ > Locate resources, browse counties, search and contribute to special projects. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

I found info on g-g-grandfather but no one knew anything about my grand mother. She died when I was 3. How do I find info whenever I search. It always says, Your search results came up "0". Her married name was Lillian Elizebeth Milmine/Millmine. b. 1877/d.1945. Married to John Oliver Milmine. Is there any way you might be able to help me.? I understand she was born in Saginaw County Michigan and they also come up "0". Help.!!!!! jiff@mailaka.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005

Hi all. Try this rootsweb link of Michigan and US epidemics: http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/epidemic.htm Stay well, Donna

Pat, The Mueller name is quite common around the Saginaw, Merrill and Freeland areas. I don't know if you are researching the line that crosses ours, but we have a Mark Mueller who married Kay DuCharme in 1962. Let me know if I can be of assistance to you. Sincerely, Kevin O'Brien Laguna Hills, CA Researching: Jefferson County: Dorchester, Perkins, Van Schaick, Truax Saginaw County, MI: (Hemlock-Richland Township) Perkins, (Jonesfield Township-Merrill) Warner, Gauley, Shannon, (Gratiot County) Pinkerton, Gillie, Genesee County, MI: (Flushing Township)Warner, Sundell Ipswich, MA: Perkins' Argentiul County, Quebec, Canada: Lowe, Shannon, Gillie, Ivall, DeRiviere, Boyd, Stapleton. Gray's Harbor and King County, Washington: Perkins, Stevens. Jorgenson And anywhere else good information can be found!

Concetta, Thanks for your informative reply! The links will be especially helpful. I chose my great-grandmother to search for first because my mom, her grand-daughter, said she has always been a mystery to her. There was never mention of Survilla's parents, siblings, etc... I love a challenge! I have access to the obit but I need to request a copy of it from the Kalamazoo Gazette. Thanks again! PS: Just in case you come across anything...Her name was Survilla (sp?) Her maiden name was Outman (sp?) and she was married twice. Her first married name was Curtis. Her second was Wellington. (that's my grandpa's father.) Jodi ----- Original Message ----- From: Concetta Franco<mailto:bigchipchipbabychip@yahoo.com> To: MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] Just getting started... Jodi, The best advice ANYONE can give you is to start with yourself and work backwards. Try to assemble a history of your life, then your mom and dad's, then your grandparents, then your greatgrandparents and give you something very easy and concise to look back at. It will save you a lot of trouble down the road! Next, talk to your family. Your family may know things, and if you start to talk about them, you may job memories (or better, gain a "you know who would know about that is...") Now, on to your query. Rootsweb is a great place to start! Athens and Kalamazoo are great hints - they're both in Calhoun County, Michigan. So start with what resources and information you can get off of the Calhoun County GenWeb, http://www.rootsweb.com/~micalhou/index.htm<http://www.rootsweb.com/~micalhou/index.htm>. I will warn you, however, that genealogy is typically recorded with the man's information since they were head of the household. So here are a few questions you'll probably need: 1. What's your great grandmother's married name vs maiden name? She'd be recorded under her father's household before she married *unless she had special circumstances*, and after she married, she'd be recorded under her married name. 2. When was she born and when did she die? Calhoun County has great cemetery resources, and you may find more of the family that way. When she was born will give you hints as to whether to search the 1850 or the 1880 census to find her. 3. Does her obituary give you any clues, like a parents name, a brothers name, etc? Those can help you place a missing female. Post what you know! Post everything but information about living individuals. The more you post, the more chance that someone will recognize a name. Calhoun County has two mailing lists, one for Rootsweb and one for its Genealogy Society. MICALHOU-L@Rootsweb.com<mailto:MICALHOU-L@Rootsweb.com> and CALHOUNCOUNTYGS@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CALHOUNCOUNTYGS@yahoogroups.com> The subscription information is near the bottom of the Calhoun County GenWeb site. Hopefully that's some useful help! Concetta Franco Alpena County GenWeb Coordinator (far, far away from Calhoun County :-) ) --- Jodi Walder <divadiva111@msn.com<mailto:divadiva111@msn.com>> wrote: > Hello All! > I am just getting started on searching for my > Great-Grandmother. Her name is Survilla Betsy > Outman,Curtis,Wellington. I only have access to her > obituary and a guess at her birthdate. I can't find > her anywhere! She was supposedly born in Athens > Michigan and lived in Kalamazoo. Where do you > suggest getting started and do you have any ideas of > searches I should try? I am baffled! > Thanks, > Jodi VanEngen-Walder > > > ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== > MI-Genealogy Subscribe and Unsubscribe Instructions > Administrator Contacts, Rules and Guidelines > http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/maillist.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/maillist.html> > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx> > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com<http://mail.yahoo.com/> ==== MI-GENEALOGY Mailing List ==== MIGenWeb. Michigan Genealogy. http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb/> Locate resources, browse counties, search and contribute to special projects. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

Kes, Are you getting any sunshine? We've had gloomy weather for 3 weeks :( You're a close neighbor! Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: <BUNAY@aol.com> To: <MI-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [MI-Genealogy] just worn out/Kes Julie, I am in the Bay area not too far from you. I live in the western end of Sunnyvale. KES -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 01/17/2005