Denise, Thanks for reminding me why I hate "Digest" -- Richard Van Wasshnova http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Denise <spartangreentcs@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Nancy: > I found two death certificates (one that I had been searching for) and one that was a bonus!  Thanks for sharing seekingmichigan.com! > > Denise >

You're welcome, but the REAL thanks go to the Library of Michigan! What a great idea they had! Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <spartangreentcs@yahoo.com> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 90 > > Nancy: > I found two death certificates (one that I had been searching for) and one > that was a bonus! Thanks for sharing seekingmichigan.com! > > Denise > > > --- On Wed, 4/29/09, mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com > <mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> From: mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com >> <mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 90 >> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 12:00 AM >> >> >> ***************************** >> The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. >> Please respect others by keeping your postings to this >> theme. >> MI-Genealogy Mail List Information >> http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html >> ***************************** >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue >> 84 (Janrko@aol.com) >> 2. Seek Michigan Question (Pat) >> 3. Re: Seek Michigan Question (Peggy >> Youngs) >> 4. New Michigan list? (S Gallagher) >> 5. Re: Seek Michigan Question (Pat) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:55:53 EDT >> From: Janrko@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, >> Issue 84 >> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <d58.3e32cb8e.372856d9@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Thank you Nancy.... I searched Muskegon Cty and spent >> two days going >> through about 6000 death certificates. I >> suggest going into NO NAME also as I >> found still born deaths for a few of my >> relatives. If I hadn't gone into >> them, there would be no way of knowing who the family >> was. Too bad they >> didn't put 'baby (father's last name)' at that >> time. >> Jan Koennecke (NJ now but grew up in Montague) >> >> >> In a message dated 4/25/2009 3:03:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight >> Time, >> mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com >> writes: >> >> >> >> ***************************** >> The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and >> research. Please respect >> others by keeping your postings to this theme. >> MI-Genealogy Mail List Information >> http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html >> ***************************** >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Death records (Nancy Keith) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:50:50 -0400 >> From: "Nancy Keith" <keithnancy@t-one.net> >> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Death records >> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <003901c9c548$43c8cc80$81a2b741@nancy> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; >> charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> >> On the seekingmichigan.org site, you pretty much name >> your own parameters. >> When you open the HOME page, you can click on the >> SEEK tab, upper right. >> When you open that page, there are four fields for >> keying in what you're >> looking for, but you have 26 choices for each field. >> >> Among others, you can look for any surname, or >> everybody with the given >> name >> of your choice, or all the entries from one county or >> from a city, a >> village, or a township, or pick a death year or an >> age.... the >> combinations >> are nearly endless. I even spent some time >> going through all the records >> for my county, not inputting a name or anything >> else. It's fun! >> >> Just be aware to think outside the box when it comes >> to names. Between >> the >> transcriptions and the original clerk's ideas of >> names, there are some >> pretty creative spelling results. >> >> Nancy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "D.C." <kinshipmatters@twmi.rr.com> >> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com>; >> <Marennad@aol.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:54 AM >> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Death records >> >> >> > Hi Helen. I went to http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mistcla2/Co.htm >> > and >> > found an Albert W. COLLINS who died in 1918 [Vol >> 5, pg 258]. >> > >> > Not all records are on the seekingmichigan.org >> website yet. I have >> > noticed >> > that the deaths are by township and not searchable >> by county necessarily. >> > >> > Donna >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the MI-GENEALOGY list administrator, send >> an email to >> MI-GENEALOGY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the MI-GENEALOGY mailing list, >> send an email to >> MI-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to >> MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the >> subject and the body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 84 >> ******************************************* >> >> >> **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours >> in Just 2 Easy >> Steps! >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621499x1201450105/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Apr >> ilExcScore428NO62) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:13:23 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Pat <ddshepherds@yahoo.com> >> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Seek Michigan Question >> To: mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <219854.46935.qm@web36606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Does anyone know if they will be placing death records for >> later years, like 1930 or so?? Also I sure hope they are not >> done working on this site.? I don't know who started this >> web site but I want to Thank them for everything they have >> done for all us who have been working on our family tree's.? >> You sure can learn a lot from them. >> ? >> Pat >> ? >> ? >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:04:35 -0400 >> From: Peggy Youngs <peggy.youngs@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Seek Michigan Question >> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com >> Cc: mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <2b2a40b60904281604g2d786470n3c6e68098c00bf75@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> The death records from 1921-present are under the >> jurisdiction of the State >> Department of Community Health and the counties in which >> the deaths took >> place. You can get a copy from the state via the >> VitalChek website at >> http://www.vitalchek.com/default.aspx?provider=9172 or >> contact the clerk's >> office of the county where the death occurred. In the >> case of Detroit, you >> will need to contact the City Clerk's office. >> >> They are not yet done placing the death records for the >> years 1897-1920 on >> the Seeking Michigan website, and I have not heard when >> they will be >> finished. >> >> Peggy >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Pat <ddshepherds@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Does anyone know if they will be placing death records >> for later years, >> > like 1930 or so? Also I sure hope they are not >> done working on this site. >> > I don't know who started this web site but I want to >> Thank them for >> > everything they have done for all us who have been >> working on our family >> > tree's. You sure can learn a lot from them. >> > >> > Pat >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:10:19 -0700 (PDT) >> From: S Gallagher <sgallagher1960@yahoo.com> >> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] New Michigan list? >> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <684476.39553.qm@web110707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> New to me anyway, here is the info >> Michigan Genealogist >> Quarterly newsletter of the Department of History, Arts and >> Libraries >> >> http://listserv2.michigan.gov/wa.exe?SUBED1=MICHGENEALOGIST&A=1 >> >> Susan G in Oregon >> >> >> My photo album >> http://community.webshots.com/user/sgallagher1960 >> >> Gallagher/Hill Family Genealogy Page >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallagher >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:16:51 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Pat <ddshepherds@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Seek Michigan Question >> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <444032.92934.qm@web36604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Peggy Thank you for the information >> ? >> Pat? >> >> --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Peggy Youngs <peggy.youngs@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Peggy Youngs <peggy.youngs@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Seek Michigan Question >> To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com >> Cc: mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com >> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 7:04 PM >> >> >> The death records from 1921-present are under the >> jurisdiction of the State >> Department of Community Health and the counties in which >> the deaths took >> place.? You can get a copy from the state via the VitalChek >> website at >> http://www.vitalchek.com/default.aspx?provider=9172 or >> contact the clerk's >> office of the county where the death occurred.? In the case >> of Detroit, you >> will need to contact the City Clerk's office. >> >> They are not yet done placing the death records for the >> years 1897-1920 on >> the Seeking Michigan website, and I have not heard when >> they will be >> finished. >> >> Peggy >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Pat <ddshepherds@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Does anyone know if they will be placing death records >> for later years, >> > like 1930 or so?? Also I sure hope they are not done >> working on this site. >> > I don't know who started this web site but I want to >> Thank them for >> > everything they have done for all us who have been >> working on our family >> > tree's.? You sure can learn a lot from them. >> > >> > Pat >> > >> ***************************** >> The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. >> Please respect others by keeping your postings to this >> theme. >> MI-Genealogy Mail List Information >> http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html >> ***************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the MI-GENEALOGY list administrator, send an >> email to >> MI-GENEALOGY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the MI-GENEALOGY mailing list, send an >> email to MI-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 90 >> ******************************************* >> > > > > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nancy: I found two death certificates (one that I had been searching for) and one that was a bonus! Thanks for sharing seekingmichigan.com! Denise --- On Wed, 4/29/09, mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com <mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > From: mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com <mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com> > Subject: MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 90 > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 12:00 AM > > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. > Please respect others by keeping your postings to this > theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > > Today's Topics: > >    1. Re: MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue > 84 (Janrko@aol.com) >    2. Seek Michigan Question (Pat) >    3. Re: Seek Michigan Question (Peggy > Youngs) >    4. New Michigan list? (S Gallagher) >    5. Re: Seek Michigan Question (Pat) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:55:53 EDT > From: Janrko@aol.com > Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, > Issue 84 > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d58.3e32cb8e.372856d9@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Thank you Nancy....  I searched Muskegon Cty and spent > two days going  > through about 6000 death certificates.   I > suggest going into NO NAME  also as I > found still born deaths for a few of my > relatives.   If I  hadn't gone into > them, there would be no way of knowing who the family  > was.   Too bad they > didn't put 'baby (father's last name)' at that  > time.  > Jan Koennecke (NJ now but grew up in Montague) > > > In a message dated 4/25/2009 3:03:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight > Time,  > mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com > writes: > > > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is  Michigan genealogy and > research. Please respect > others by keeping your  postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List  Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > > Today's  Topics: > > 1. Re: Death records (Nancy  Keith) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message:  1 > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:50:50 -0400 > From: "Nancy Keith"  <keithnancy@t-one.net> > Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Death  records > To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:  > <003901c9c548$43c8cc80$81a2b741@nancy> > Content-Type: text/plain;  format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > On the seekingmichigan.org site, you pretty  much name > your own parameters. > When you open the HOME page, you can click  on the > SEEK tab, upper right. > When you open that page, there are four  fields for > keying in what you're > looking for, but you have 26 choices for  each field. > > Among others, you can look for any surname, or > everybody  with the given > name > of your choice, or all the entries from one county or  > from a city, a > village, or a township, or pick a death year or an > age....  the > combinations > are nearly endless.  I even spent some time > going  through all the records > for my county, not inputting a name or anything  > else.  It's fun! > > Just be aware to think outside the box when it  comes > to names.  Between > the > transcriptions and the original clerk's  ideas of > names, there are some > pretty creative spelling  results. > > Nancy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D.C."  <kinshipmatters@twmi.rr.com> > To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com>;  > <Marennad@aol.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:54 AM > Subject:  Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Death records > > > > Hi Helen.   I went  to http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mistcla2/Co.htm > > and > >  found an Albert W. COLLINS who died in 1918 [Vol > 5, pg 258]. > > > >  Not all records are on the seekingmichigan.org > website yet.  I have  > > noticed > > that the deaths are by township and not searchable > by  county necessarily. > > > >  Donna > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact  the MI-GENEALOGY list administrator, send > an email  to > MI-GENEALOGY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the  MI-GENEALOGY mailing list, > send an email to  > MI-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to  > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the  quotes in the > subject and the body > of the > email with no additional  text. > > > End of MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue  84 > ******************************************* > > > **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours > in Just 2 Easy > Steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621499x1201450105/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Apr > ilExcScore428NO62) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:13:23 -0700 (PDT) > From: Pat <ddshepherds@yahoo.com> > Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Seek Michigan Question > To: mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <219854.46935.qm@web36606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Does anyone know if they will be placing death records for > later years, like 1930 or so?? Also I sure hope they are not > done working on this site.? I don't know who started this > web site but I want to Thank them for everything they have > done for all us who have been working on our family tree's.? > You sure can learn a lot from them. > ? > Pat > ? > ? > > >       > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:04:35 -0400 > From: Peggy Youngs <peggy.youngs@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Seek Michigan Question > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Cc: mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: >     <2b2a40b60904281604g2d786470n3c6e68098c00bf75@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > The death records from 1921-present are under the > jurisdiction of the State > Department of Community Health and the counties in which > the deaths took > place.  You can get a copy from the state via the > VitalChek website at > http://www.vitalchek.com/default.aspx?provider=9172 or > contact the clerk's > office of the county where the death occurred.  In the > case of Detroit, you > will need to contact the City Clerk's office. > > They are not yet done placing the death records for the > years 1897-1920 on > the Seeking Michigan website, and I have not heard when > they will be > finished. > > Peggy > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Pat <ddshepherds@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > Does anyone know if they will be placing death records > for later years, > > like 1930 or so?  Also I sure hope they are not > done working on this site. > > I don't know who started this web site but I want to > Thank them for > > everything they have done for all us who have been > working on our family > > tree's.  You sure can learn a lot from them. > > > > Pat > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:10:19 -0700 (PDT) > From: S Gallagher <sgallagher1960@yahoo.com> > Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] New Michigan list? > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <684476.39553.qm@web110707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > New to me anyway, here is the info > Michigan Genealogist > Quarterly newsletter of the Department of History, Arts and > Libraries > > http://listserv2.michigan.gov/wa.exe?SUBED1=MICHGENEALOGIST&A=1 > > Susan G in Oregon > > > My photo album > http://community.webshots.com/user/sgallagher1960 > > Gallagher/Hill Family Genealogy Page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallagher > > >       > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:16:51 -0700 (PDT) > From: Pat <ddshepherds@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Seek Michigan Question > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <444032.92934.qm@web36604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Peggy Thank you for the information > ? > Pat? > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Peggy Youngs <peggy.youngs@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > From: Peggy Youngs <peggy.youngs@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Seek Michigan Question > To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com > Cc: mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > The death records from 1921-present are under the > jurisdiction of the State > Department of Community Health and the counties in which > the deaths took > place.? You can get a copy from the state via the VitalChek > website at > http://www.vitalchek.com/default.aspx?provider=9172 or > contact the clerk's > office of the county where the death occurred.? In the case > of Detroit, you > will need to contact the City Clerk's office. > > They are not yet done placing the death records for the > years 1897-1920 on > the Seeking Michigan website, and I have not heard when > they will be > finished. > > Peggy > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Pat <ddshepherds@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > Does anyone know if they will be placing death records > for later years, > > like 1930 or so?? Also I sure hope they are not done > working on this site. > > I don't know who started this web site but I want to > Thank them for > > everything they have done for all us who have been > working on our family > > tree's.? You sure can learn a lot from them. > > > > Pat > > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. > Please respect others by keeping your postings to this > theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > >       > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MI-GENEALOGY list administrator, send an > email to > MI-GENEALOGY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the MI-GENEALOGY mailing list, send an > email to MI-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 90 > ******************************************* >

Peggy Thank you for the information   Pat  --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Peggy Youngs <peggy.youngs@gmail.com> wrote: From: Peggy Youngs <peggy.youngs@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Seek Michigan Question To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Cc: mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 7:04 PM The death records from 1921-present are under the jurisdiction of the State Department of Community Health and the counties in which the deaths took place.  You can get a copy from the state via the VitalChek website at http://www.vitalchek.com/default.aspx?provider=9172 or contact the clerk's office of the county where the death occurred.  In the case of Detroit, you will need to contact the City Clerk's office. They are not yet done placing the death records for the years 1897-1920 on the Seeking Michigan website, and I have not heard when they will be finished. Peggy On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Pat <ddshepherds@yahoo.com> wrote: > Does anyone know if they will be placing death records for later years, > like 1930 or so?  Also I sure hope they are not done working on this site. > I don't know who started this web site but I want to Thank them for > everything they have done for all us who have been working on our family > tree's.  You sure can learn a lot from them. > > Pat > ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The death records from 1921-present are under the jurisdiction of the State Department of Community Health and the counties in which the deaths took place. You can get a copy from the state via the VitalChek website at http://www.vitalchek.com/default.aspx?provider=9172 or contact the clerk's office of the county where the death occurred. In the case of Detroit, you will need to contact the City Clerk's office. They are not yet done placing the death records for the years 1897-1920 on the Seeking Michigan website, and I have not heard when they will be finished. Peggy On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Pat <ddshepherds@yahoo.com> wrote: > Does anyone know if they will be placing death records for later years, > like 1930 or so? Also I sure hope they are not done working on this site. > I don't know who started this web site but I want to Thank them for > everything they have done for all us who have been working on our family > tree's. You sure can learn a lot from them. > > Pat >

New to me anyway, here is the info Michigan Genealogist Quarterly newsletter of the Department of History, Arts and Libraries http://listserv2.michigan.gov/wa.exe?SUBED1=MICHGENEALOGIST&A=1 Susan G in Oregon My photo album http://community.webshots.com/user/sgallagher1960 Gallagher/Hill Family Genealogy Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallagher

Does anyone know if they will be placing death records for later years, like 1930 or so?  Also I sure hope they are not done working on this site.  I don't know who started this web site but I want to Thank them for everything they have done for all us who have been working on our family tree's.  You sure can learn a lot from them.   Pat    

Thank you Nancy.... I searched Muskegon Cty and spent two days going through about 6000 death certificates. I suggest going into NO NAME also as I found still born deaths for a few of my relatives. If I hadn't gone into them, there would be no way of knowing who the family was. Too bad they didn't put 'baby (father's last name)' at that time. Jan Koennecke (NJ now but grew up in Montague) In a message dated 4/25/2009 3:03:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mi-genealogy-request@rootsweb.com writes: ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** Today's Topics: 1. Re: Death records (Nancy Keith) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:50:50 -0400 From: "Nancy Keith" <keithnancy@t-one.net> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Death records To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003901c9c548$43c8cc80$81a2b741@nancy> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original On the seekingmichigan.org site, you pretty much name your own parameters. When you open the HOME page, you can click on the SEEK tab, upper right. When you open that page, there are four fields for keying in what you're looking for, but you have 26 choices for each field. Among others, you can look for any surname, or everybody with the given name of your choice, or all the entries from one county or from a city, a village, or a township, or pick a death year or an age.... the combinations are nearly endless. I even spent some time going through all the records for my county, not inputting a name or anything else. It's fun! Just be aware to think outside the box when it comes to names. Between the transcriptions and the original clerk's ideas of names, there are some pretty creative spelling results. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "D.C." <kinshipmatters@twmi.rr.com> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com>; <Marennad@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Death records > Hi Helen. I went to http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mistcla2/Co.htm > and > found an Albert W. COLLINS who died in 1918 [Vol 5, pg 258]. > > Not all records are on the seekingmichigan.org website yet. I have > noticed > that the deaths are by township and not searchable by county necessarily. > > Donna > ------------------------------ To contact the MI-GENEALOGY list administrator, send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the MI-GENEALOGY mailing list, send an email to MI-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of MI-GENEALOGY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 84 ******************************************* **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621499x1201450105/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Apr ilExcScore428NO62)

You certainly are welcome, and I hope they can help you. Actually, between Rootsweb and Yahoo, there are quite a few discussion lists out there. Their websites show not only what focused-interest groups are available but also what already has been posted, shown in their various archives. Very interesting browsing, there. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Long" <longjohn144@gmail.com> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Cc: "mary rathbun" <upnorthishome@yahoo.com>; "Karolyn Sandoval" <ksandoval@power-net.net> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] Irish Eyes Were Smiling > To Nancy Keith, > I most certainly shall take your suggestion and apply to those > Canadian websites for any assistance in trying to find even a little > bit more data concerning both my paternal and maternal Great, Great, > Greats …to the nth degree. I'll be forever in your debt! Thank you. > John E Long > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Nancy Keith <keithnancy@t-one.net> wrote: >> >> I would suggest that you join the York (Ontario) list and post your query >> there. That's another list full of helpful people. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com >> >> Subscribing. To join CAN-ONT-YORK-L, [individual emails] send mail to >> CAN-ONT-YORK-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the >> message subject and body. >> To join CAN-ONT-YORK-D, [digest mode] do the same thing with >> CAN-ONT-YORK-D-request@rootsweb.com. >> >> HTH. >> >> Nancy >> in Michigan, where the sun has disappeared and the cold, rain, and winds >> are >> coming through. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Long" <longjohn144@gmail.com> >> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: "Barbara Greene" <zippyzebra@prodigy.net>; "mary rathbun" >> <upnorthishome@yahoo.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:45 AM >> Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Irish Eyes Were Smiling >> >> >>>I have a picture of a very sweet looking old lady… my Great >>> Grandmother. For umpteen years …I was told she was Canadian. Having no >>> reason to doubt the veracity of this …I accepted it as fact. Her name? >>> Agnes Armet. And she was said to be of English descent. >>> >>> One day …not so many moons ago …a wonderful researcher from amongst >>> our group… found her death record for me. I was so fortunate to get a >>> copy of such record. But, surprisingly enough, she wasn’t English. >>> Sure… and me Great Granny be from “the ole sod.” She escaped from >>> Ireland… sought refuge in Canada… met an Englishman by name of George >>> Long…who had also fled to Canada… but, from England. They wedded. And >>> eventually… here I am… don’t you see. >>> >>> What I would like to find …is more info on my Celtic GG Grandparents: >>> James Armet and Jane Scott. Does anyone have a way to get back into >>> Ireland to find anything on them? I have no reason to believe they >>> came across the pond with Agnes …but they could have… don't you >>> know……… >>> >>> Agnes’s D/C states: >>> Name: Long, Agnes; Sex: Female >>> Date of Birth: circa 1828; Place of Birth: Ireland >>> Date of Death: Dec 6 1911; Age at Death 83 years >>> Place of Death of Residence: 2062 St Clair Av, Toronto, York Co, >>> Ontario, >>> Canada >>> Occupation: Housekeeper; Marital Status: Widowed >>> Full Name of Father: James Armet; Birthplace of Father: Ireland >>> Maiden name of Mother: Jane Scott; Birthplace of Mother: Ireland >>> >>> Thank You, >>> John E Long >>> >> >> ***************************** >> The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect >> others by keeping your postings to this theme. >> MI-Genealogy Mail List Information >> http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html >> ***************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect > others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

To Nancy Keith, I most certainly shall take your suggestion and apply to those Canadian websites for any assistance in trying to find even a little bit more data concerning both my paternal and maternal Great, Great, Greats …to the nth degree. I'll be forever in your debt! Thank you. John E Long On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Nancy Keith <keithnancy@t-one.net> wrote: > > I would suggest that you join the York (Ontario) list and post your query > there.  That's another list full of helpful people. > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > Subscribing.  To join CAN-ONT-YORK-L, [individual emails] send mail to > CAN-ONT-YORK-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the > message subject and body. > To join CAN-ONT-YORK-D, [digest mode] do the same thing with > CAN-ONT-YORK-D-request@rootsweb.com. > > HTH. > > Nancy > in Michigan, where the sun has disappeared and the cold, rain, and winds are > coming through. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Long" <longjohn144@gmail.com> > To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "Barbara Greene" <zippyzebra@prodigy.net>; "mary rathbun" > <upnorthishome@yahoo.com> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:45 AM > Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Irish Eyes Were Smiling > > >>I have a picture of a very sweet looking old lady… my Great >> Grandmother. For umpteen years …I was told she was Canadian. Having no >> reason to doubt the veracity of this …I accepted it as fact. Her name? >> Agnes Armet. And she was said to be of English descent. >> >> One day …not so many moons ago …a wonderful researcher from amongst >> our group… found her death record for me. I was so fortunate to get a >> copy of such record. But, surprisingly enough, she wasn’t English. >> Sure… and me Great Granny be from “the ole sod.” She escaped from >> Ireland… sought refuge in Canada… met an Englishman by name of George >> Long…who had also fled to Canada… but, from England. They wedded. And >> eventually… here I am… don’t you see. >> >> What I would like to find …is more info on my Celtic GG Grandparents: >> James Armet and Jane Scott. Does anyone have a way to get back into >> Ireland to find anything on them? I have no reason to believe they >> came across the pond with Agnes …but they could have… don't you >> know……… >> >> Agnes’s D/C states: >> Name: Long, Agnes; Sex: Female >> Date of Birth: circa 1828; Place of Birth: Ireland >> Date of Death: Dec 6 1911; Age at Death 83 years >> Place of Death of Residence: 2062 St Clair Av, Toronto, York Co, Ontario, >> Canada >> Occupation: Housekeeper; Marital Status: Widowed >> Full Name of Father: James Armet; Birthplace of Father: Ireland >> Maiden name of Mother: Jane Scott; Birthplace of Mother: Ireland >> >> Thank You, >> John E Long >> > > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I would suggest that you join the York (Ontario) list and post your query there. That's another list full of helpful people. http://www.rootsweb.com Subscribing. To join CAN-ONT-YORK-L, [individual emails] send mail to CAN-ONT-YORK-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join CAN-ONT-YORK-D, [digest mode] do the same thing with CAN-ONT-YORK-D-request@rootsweb.com. HTH. Nancy in Michigan, where the sun has disappeared and the cold, rain, and winds are coming through. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Long" <longjohn144@gmail.com> To: <mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Barbara Greene" <zippyzebra@prodigy.net>; "mary rathbun" <upnorthishome@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:45 AM Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] Irish Eyes Were Smiling >I have a picture of a very sweet looking old lady… my Great > Grandmother. For umpteen years …I was told she was Canadian. Having no > reason to doubt the veracity of this …I accepted it as fact. Her name? > Agnes Armet. And she was said to be of English descent. > > One day …not so many moons ago …a wonderful researcher from amongst > our group… found her death record for me. I was so fortunate to get a > copy of such record. But, surprisingly enough, she wasn’t English. > Sure… and me Great Granny be from “the ole sod.” She escaped from > Ireland… sought refuge in Canada… met an Englishman by name of George > Long…who had also fled to Canada… but, from England. They wedded. And > eventually… here I am… don’t you see. > > What I would like to find …is more info on my Celtic GG Grandparents: > James Armet and Jane Scott. Does anyone have a way to get back into > Ireland to find anything on them? I have no reason to believe they > came across the pond with Agnes …but they could have… don't you > know……… > > Agnes’s D/C states: > Name: Long, Agnes; Sex: Female > Date of Birth: circa 1828; Place of Birth: Ireland > Date of Death: Dec 6 1911; Age at Death 83 years > Place of Death of Residence: 2062 St Clair Av, Toronto, York Co, Ontario, > Canada > Occupation: Housekeeper; Marital Status: Widowed > Full Name of Father: James Armet; Birthplace of Father: Ireland > Maiden name of Mother: Jane Scott; Birthplace of Mother: Ireland > > Thank You, > John E Long >

I have a picture of a very sweet looking old lady… my Great Grandmother. For umpteen years …I was told she was Canadian. Having no reason to doubt the veracity of this …I accepted it as fact. Her name? Agnes Armet. And she was said to be of English descent. One day …not so many moons ago …a wonderful researcher from amongst our group… found her death record for me. I was so fortunate to get a copy of such record. But, surprisingly enough, she wasn’t English. Sure… and me Great Granny be from “the ole sod.” She escaped from Ireland… sought refuge in Canada… met an Englishman by name of George Long…who had also fled to Canada… but, from England. They wedded. And eventually… here I am… don’t you see. What I would like to find …is more info on my Celtic GG Grandparents: James Armet and Jane Scott. Does anyone have a way to get back into Ireland to find anything on them? I have no reason to believe they came across the pond with Agnes …but they could have… don't you know……… Agnes’s D/C states: Name: Long, Agnes; Sex: Female Date of Birth: circa 1828; Place of Birth: Ireland Date of Death: Dec 6 1911; Age at Death 83 years Place of Death of Residence: 2062 St Clair Av, Toronto, York Co, Ontario, Canada Occupation: Housekeeper; Marital Status: Widowed Full Name of Father: James Armet; Birthplace of Father: Ireland Maiden name of Mother: Jane Scott; Birthplace of Mother: Ireland Thank You, John E Long

oh here's some more good story....i started this genealogy in 65 or 66 and about that time, my grandfather was here for a visit from Wash...and gee wouldn't you think...he would have some simple answers about his father..but when i asked....his breath slammed me against the wall (matter of speaking)..he passed in 76 and in abt 82 is when i was told the story of the milk...that one sunday he went for a qt and didn't come back... then it was in 96 when my cousin and i was working together that we got the story i told you...   sorry, i mispoke myself...i meant that 1920 is the last i have of Sarah...i can't find her on the 1930 census for Ogemaw or Oakland....and can't find a death report on  her...   would also like to know if they div here or in canada and just happened that both came over...this is what is strange...that both come...if div...with kids still there and kids over here...   confusing bunch....you got that right....   thanks for the help so far....and if you find anything else..appreciate it...   now don't know if i said....but i don't live in MI anymore...my youngest needed my help...and knew it would be better for  my health...i have asthma and arthititis...so now i'm in AZ and i have a son that came with me...   till later....   oh yea....if you ever make contact with Lorene Wilson in Flint, MI or Houghtaling in MI...they are related...on my grandmothers side....Best   Patsy   --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Laura Gould <ljgould@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Laura Gould <ljgould@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] looking for a death record To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 6:36 AM Well, THAT's a confusing bunch! It sounds like you have a lot about Sarah.  I thought you said you only had her in the 1920 census. So, you are basically just trying to hunt down divorce records, right? What else were you hoping to find about her? Seems like if Eli was going to look for work, he might have mentioned that rather than saying he was going for milk.  :) OK, well hope some of that helped you. Laura -----Original Message----- From: mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATIANN Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:47 PM To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] looking for a death record Hi Laura   thanks for the info....there is some problems...that you wouldn't know...so it will be easier if i scroll down into the email...and make the comments in a diff color...but basically most if right...and you'll understand what i'm referring to....which you wouldn't know...   Patsy//// --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Laura Gould <ljgould@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Laura Gould <ljgould@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] looking for a death record To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 9:34 PM Here are some things I found...sorry if I ramble. The 1900 census for Ogemaw has John Rhyndress as head of household born January 1872 in Canada with his mother Sarah Foote widow born September 1843 in England and his brother Robert born September 1883 in Canada So apparently John Foote died before 1900. ok, that is something i didn't find...about her being a widow...i knew she was with her son John and Robert...thanks.. The 1910 census for Ogemaw has Sarah B.(?) Foot as head of household looks like it lists her with 3 marriages, married 6 years, has had 10 kids with 5 still living born England parents born England came to US in 1886.  She is living next door do Robert and his wife and daughter Cleo. It doesn't list a husband and doesn't say she is widowed....hmmm. now is the B suppose to be for a middle name or her maiden name....ok...three marriages would be right marriages: Eli A. Rhyndress.....with three kids John Peck......with four girls...(two were twins) she married him when she heard that Eli was dead  two yrs after he left..(one sunday aft to get a qt of milk) Eli A.......after he returned 8-10yrs later...and having married Mary Whelan..had three children...she died after the third...he left the kids and returned back to Sarah..and why or how..but John left...leaving her the 4 girls...so now there are 7 kids and now my grandfather Robert is born.1883..that's the 10 kids... it is in 1886 that it says they came to Michigan...but where or when did they divorce... cause in 1888 she married John Foot(e)..... i would say it was the older ones that stayed there married....George, Hannah, and three of the four Pike girls...cause Elizabeth Pike married David Best...my grandmothers uncle...she was Robert's half brother...and when Robert (my dad's father) married Martha Best....his half sister became his Aunt by marriage... so now this is where i said i can't find the divorce between Elia and Sarah...and he married Maria Chapel in Bay City after coming over from Canada....his death is in Bay City Hospital in 1907 The 1920 census for Sarah with Jacob Clark(?) says she and her parents were born in MI, I guess that could be misinformation. now i did see her with this Jacob...but what is her age there...cause her parents were born in England as was she....and there is a Sarah Foote...but I don't know if it is John's daugh of another marriage or a niece... Robert's marriage record to Martha Best for the same county gives parents names as Eli Rhyndress and Sarah Bachus.  Maybe this alternate spelling would help. yes this is right...Sarah had an Uncle that came over from England arriving to learn that a backhouse here was the name for the outhouse or shithouse...and he was too high class for that.....so it was changed...backhouse in england is the back bakery.....Backhouse, Backhaus, Bachaus, Backus, Baccus, and maybe others....as with Rhyndress...started out Rheinjert. Riness, Rhiness, Rhindress, Rhness, Ryness, and others... Sarah's marriage record to John Foote says she was married only once previously and only lists her names as Rhyndress and Backus.  Where/when did she marry John Peck? That was in Canada when Eli went away in 1872 , which also was right after the third child was born in Jan...not returning for 7-10yrs.first story i was told he went for a qt of milk one sunday aft...and didn't return right away and abt 1yrs. later Sarah learned he was dead...and then married the farm hand...John Peck...then in the late 1997 when doing genealogy with  my cousin...we received this line with Mary Whelan. from a Richard Rhyndress...that is related somehow....because he knew it was our Eli...then later cousin was told in a way...well he went to look for work..(which is what many men did in that era), but my opinion was...well that didn't give him the right to marry a woman and have three kids, and because she died after childbirth...leave those three kids and return to the real wife with three kids and have another...and raise the extra four she had while he was gone... i mean girl......is this how the song was inheirited..."I'm my own Grandma" and i just noticed that they were div...about 1885...yet on the MI census, Sara and the kids came over abt 1886....  so i guess that Eli came too.... There is a listing at www.familysearch.org that shows a Sarah Backhouse born September 10, 1843 at Garton on the Wolds, Yorkshire, England with parents Richard Backhouse and Jane....that matches her birth month and year given in the 1900 census and she could have gotten her middle name from her mother. yes, this is her middle name...and Jane's maiden name was Bealby...and that is how my grandfather Robert got his middle name. Also at familysearch there is a record for Sarah Backhouse married to Eli Angeline Rhyndress son of Eli Angevine Rhyndress and Harriet Crittenden and it gives Eli Angevine's parents as James Rhyndress and Sarah Hunt.  It gives their birth dates and places as well. Also at this site there is a Richard Backhouse born December 5, 1813 at Garton on the Wolds, Yorkshire, England with parents James Backhouse and Hannah. and i would say this is how she named her daugh.. Hannah....after her grandmother. now on top of this backhouse line...I believe it is brothers to Richard Backhouse...one went down the line that produced..the Hotel Astor.in New York...their sone John Jacob Astor (the one on the Titanic)(whose wife on the Titanic that was pg..was not his first wife..well i think they were married...he may just have gotten her pg..but was still married..) John's mother was a Jacob and her mother was a Backhouse.. then the other line went down to produce the Vandebilts...that built the Biltmore Estates in North Carolina You probably already have that Sarah's husband Eli remarried to Mary Briggs Laprine in Bay City in 1898. yea, i found this and i have also heard he married Maria Chapel...but i'm wondering if it is the same person... There is a Richard and Jane Baccus in the 1881 Canadian census for Bentinck, Grey South, Ontario. There is a Eli Rhyndress widowed of Irish descent age 40 on the 1881 Canadian census for Kincardine, Bruce South, Ontario. ok this would be widowed from Mary Whelan... George Rhyndress son of Eli and Sarah married Jennie Harrington in 1890 Ogemaw. Hannah J. Rhyndress daughter of Eli and Sarah  unknown married Robert Ward in 1890 Ogemaw.oh thank you...i've been trying to remember how John Ward was related...that's right.... John Ryndress son of Eli and  Sarah  Bachaus married Mytle G. Tolang 1901 Ogemaw. The death record on www.usgenweb.com for Ogemaw County lists Sarah Jane Foote died September 5, 1937, parents Dudley Mixer and Mary Birchbill....?! this is the other sarah foote i was telling you about Laura -genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATIANN Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:46 PM To: mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] looking for a death record I have found my grt grandmother on the 1920 census, but i can not find her anywhere else....   Her name is Sarah Jane Backhouse....married Eli A. Rhyndress....later John Peck (but found Eli was still alive).....back to him.....then after they parted...she then married John Foote....   I have on census reports that the family came to Michigan in 1886....I still haven't found the divorce report for her and Eli....if it was here or Canada....   she married John Foote in 1888 in Ogemaw county... I haven't found wether John died or they div...   the last report i have on her is 1920 she was living with a Jacobs as a servant....   She has a son that did come to Pontiac, Mi is 1923 with his wife and family....but don't know if she came later...i've looked everywhere...   Can anyone help me....   thank you Patricia A. Rhyndress granddaughter of Robert Bealby Rhyndress....       ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. 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Well, THAT's a confusing bunch! It sounds like you have a lot about Sarah. I thought you said you only had her in the 1920 census. So, you are basically just trying to hunt down divorce records, right? What else were you hoping to find about her? Seems like if Eli was going to look for work, he might have mentioned that rather than saying he was going for milk. :) OK, well hope some of that helped you. Laura -----Original Message----- From: mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATIANN Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:47 PM To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] looking for a death record Hi Laura   thanks for the info....there is some problems...that you wouldn't know...so it will be easier if i scroll down into the email...and make the comments in a diff color...but basically most if right...and you'll understand what i'm referring to....which you wouldn't know...   Patsy//// --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Laura Gould <ljgould@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Laura Gould <ljgould@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] looking for a death record To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 9:34 PM Here are some things I found...sorry if I ramble. The 1900 census for Ogemaw has John Rhyndress as head of household born January 1872 in Canada with his mother Sarah Foote widow born September 1843 in England and his brother Robert born September 1883 in Canada So apparently John Foote died before 1900. ok, that is something i didn't find...about her being a widow...i knew she was with her son John and Robert...thanks.. The 1910 census for Ogemaw has Sarah B.(?) Foot as head of household looks like it lists her with 3 marriages, married 6 years, has had 10 kids with 5 still living born England parents born England came to US in 1886.  She is living next door do Robert and his wife and daughter Cleo. It doesn't list a husband and doesn't say she is widowed....hmmm. now is the B suppose to be for a middle name or her maiden name....ok...three marriages would be right marriages: Eli A. Rhyndress.....with three kids John Peck......with four girls...(two were twins) she married him when she heard that Eli was dead  two yrs after he left..(one sunday aft to get a qt of milk) Eli A.......after he returned 8-10yrs later...and having married Mary Whelan..had three children...she died after the third...he left the kids and returned back to Sarah..and why or how..but John left...leaving her the 4 girls...so now there are 7 kids and now my grandfather Robert is born.1883..that's the 10 kids... it is in 1886 that it says they came to Michigan...but where or when did they divorce... cause in 1888 she married John Foot(e)..... i would say it was the older ones that stayed there married....George, Hannah, and three of the four Pike girls...cause Elizabeth Pike married David Best...my grandmothers uncle...she was Robert's half brother...and when Robert (my dad's father) married Martha Best....his half sister became his Aunt by marriage... so now this is where i said i can't find the divorce between Elia and Sarah...and he married Maria Chapel in Bay City after coming over from Canada....his death is in Bay City Hospital in 1907 The 1920 census for Sarah with Jacob Clark(?) says she and her parents were born in MI, I guess that could be misinformation. now i did see her with this Jacob...but what is her age there...cause her parents were born in England as was she....and there is a Sarah Foote...but I don't know if it is John's daugh of another marriage or a niece... Robert's marriage record to Martha Best for the same county gives parents names as Eli Rhyndress and Sarah Bachus.  Maybe this alternate spelling would help. yes this is right...Sarah had an Uncle that came over from England arriving to learn that a backhouse here was the name for the outhouse or shithouse...and he was too high class for that.....so it was changed...backhouse in england is the back bakery.....Backhouse, Backhaus, Bachaus, Backus, Baccus, and maybe others....as with Rhyndress...started out Rheinjert. Riness, Rhiness, Rhindress, Rhness, Ryness, and others... Sarah's marriage record to John Foote says she was married only once previously and only lists her names as Rhyndress and Backus.  Where/when did she marry John Peck? That was in Canada when Eli went away in 1872 , which also was right after the third child was born in Jan...not returning for 7-10yrs.first story i was told he went for a qt of milk one sunday aft...and didn't return right away and abt 1yrs. later Sarah learned he was dead...and then married the farm hand...John Peck...then in the late 1997 when doing genealogy with  my cousin...we received this line with Mary Whelan. from a Richard Rhyndress...that is related somehow....because he knew it was our Eli...then later cousin was told in a way...well he went to look for work..(which is what many men did in that era), but my opinion was...well that didn't give him the right to marry a woman and have three kids, and because she died after childbirth...leave those three kids and return to the real wife with three kids and have another...and raise the extra four she had while he was gone... i mean girl......is this how the song was inheirited..."I'm my own Grandma" and i just noticed that they were div...about 1885...yet on the MI census, Sara and the kids came over abt 1886....  so i guess that Eli came too.... There is a listing at www.familysearch.org that shows a Sarah Backhouse born September 10, 1843 at Garton on the Wolds, Yorkshire, England with parents Richard Backhouse and Jane....that matches her birth month and year given in the 1900 census and she could have gotten her middle name from her mother. yes, this is her middle name...and Jane's maiden name was Bealby...and that is how my grandfather Robert got his middle name. Also at familysearch there is a record for Sarah Backhouse married to Eli Angeline Rhyndress son of Eli Angevine Rhyndress and Harriet Crittenden and it gives Eli Angevine's parents as James Rhyndress and Sarah Hunt.  It gives their birth dates and places as well. Also at this site there is a Richard Backhouse born December 5, 1813 at Garton on the Wolds, Yorkshire, England with parents James Backhouse and Hannah. and i would say this is how she named her daugh.. Hannah....after her grandmother. now on top of this backhouse line...I believe it is brothers to Richard Backhouse...one went down the line that produced..the Hotel Astor.in New York...their sone John Jacob Astor (the one on the Titanic)(whose wife on the Titanic that was pg..was not his first wife..well i think they were married...he may just have gotten her pg..but was still married..) John's mother was a Jacob and her mother was a Backhouse.. then the other line went down to produce the Vandebilts...that built the Biltmore Estates in North Carolina You probably already have that Sarah's husband Eli remarried to Mary Briggs Laprine in Bay City in 1898. yea, i found this and i have also heard he married Maria Chapel...but i'm wondering if it is the same person... There is a Richard and Jane Baccus in the 1881 Canadian census for Bentinck, Grey South, Ontario. There is a Eli Rhyndress widowed of Irish descent age 40 on the 1881 Canadian census for Kincardine, Bruce South, Ontario. ok this would be widowed from Mary Whelan... George Rhyndress son of Eli and Sarah married Jennie Harrington in 1890 Ogemaw. Hannah J. Rhyndress daughter of Eli and Sarah  unknown married Robert Ward in 1890 Ogemaw.oh thank you...i've been trying to remember how John Ward was related...that's right.... John Ryndress son of Eli and  Sarah  Bachaus married Mytle G. Tolang 1901 Ogemaw. The death record on www.usgenweb.com for Ogemaw County lists Sarah Jane Foote died September 5, 1937, parents Dudley Mixer and Mary Birchbill....?! this is the other sarah foote i was telling you about Laura -genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATIANN Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:46 PM To: mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] looking for a death record I have found my grt grandmother on the 1920 census, but i can not find her anywhere else....   Her name is Sarah Jane Backhouse....married Eli A. Rhyndress....later John Peck (but found Eli was still alive).....back to him.....then after they parted...she then married John Foote....   I have on census reports that the family came to Michigan in 1886....I still haven't found the divorce report for her and Eli....if it was here or Canada....   she married John Foote in 1888 in Ogemaw county... I haven't found wether John died or they div...   the last report i have on her is 1920 she was living with a Jacobs as a servant....   She has a son that did come to Pontiac, Mi is 1923 with his wife and family....but don't know if she came later...i've looked everywhere...   Can anyone help me....   thank you Patricia A. Rhyndress granddaughter of Robert Bealby Rhyndress....       ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. 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Heritage Quest DOES have the 1850 census - it is just not indexed. When you pull up Heritage Quest and the census list, hit the Browse button at the top of the page. Then you input the state, county, and it will also want a township - pick the last one you know of where the person was. Then you scroll through the pages as if you were using a microfilm reader at the library. Good luck. Ruth Catton, who has found people this way. ---- Marennad@aol.com wrote: > Hertiage Quest does not have 1850 census and for some reason I am not > pulling it up on Ancestry???? > > Looking for Calvin Donaldson born I think in New Jersey in 1785. Died in > Barry County in 1854. So I was hoping to locate him in the 1850. His wife > was Eleanor 1792 - 1854. They had a son named Francis - listed as Clergy. > He died in Ireland in 1857 but he is in Steubenville NY in 1850. So not > sure when they all got to Michigan. > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220814855x1201410739/aol?red > ir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=A > prilfooter426NO62) > ***************************** > The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. > MI-Genealogy Mail List Information > http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html > ***************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Heritage Quest has all census' but many are not indexed so if you know township or city level not too hard to browse. -- Richard Van Wasshnova http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:52 PM, <Marennad@aol.com> wrote: > Hertiage Quest does not have 1850 census and for some reason I am not > pulling it up on Ancestry???? > > Looking for Calvin Donaldson born I think in New Jersey in 1785. Died in > Barry County in 1854. So I was hoping to locate him in the 1850.  His wife > was Eleanor 1792 - 1854.  They had a son named Francis - listed as Clergy. > He died in Ireland in 1857 but he is in Steubenville NY in 1850.  So not > sure when they all got to Michigan. > **************

Hertiage Quest does not have 1850 census and for some reason I am not pulling it up on Ancestry???? Looking for Calvin Donaldson born I think in New Jersey in 1785. Died in Barry County in 1854. So I was hoping to locate him in the 1850. His wife was Eleanor 1792 - 1854. They had a son named Francis - listed as Clergy. He died in Ireland in 1857 but he is in Steubenville NY in 1850. So not sure when they all got to Michigan. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220814855x1201410739/aol?red ir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=A prilfooter426NO62)

Here are some things I found...sorry if I ramble. The 1900 census for Ogemaw has John Rhyndress as head of household born January 1872 in Canada with his mother Sarah Foote widow born September 1843 in England and his brother Robert born September 1883 in Canada So apparently John Foote died before 1900. The 1910 census for Ogemaw has Sarah B.(?) Foot as head of household looks like it lists her with 3 marriages, married 6 years, has had 10 kids with 5 still living born England parents born England came to US in 1886. She is living next door do Robert and his wife and daughter Cleo. It doesn't list a husband and doesn't say she is widowed....hmmm. The 1920 census for Sarah with Jacob Clark(?) says she and her parents were born in MI, I guess that could be misinformation. Robert's marriage record to Martha Best for the same county gives parents names as Eli Rhyndress and Sarah Bachus. Maybe this alternate spelling would help. Sarah's marriage record to John Foote says she was married only once previously and only lists her names as Rhyndress and Backus. Where/when did she marry John Peck? There is a listing at www.familysearch.org that shows a Sarah Backhouse born September 10, 1843 at Garton on the Wolds, Yorkshire, England with parents Richard Backhouse and Jane....that matches her birth month and year given in the 1900 census and she could have gotten her middle name from her mother. Also at familysearch there is a record for Sarah Backhouse married to Eli Angeline Rhyndress son of Eli Angevine Rhyndress and Harriet Crittenden and it gives Eli Angevine's parents as James Rhyndress and Sarah Hunt. It gives their birth dates and places as well. Also at this site there is a Richard Backhouse born December 5, 1813 at Garton on the Wolds, Yorkshire, England with parents James Backhouse and Hannah. You probably already have that Sarah's husband Eli remarried to Mary Briggs Laprine in Bay City in 1898. There is a Richard and Jane Baccus in the 1881 Canadian census for Bentinck, Grey South, Ontario. There is a Eli Rhyndress widowed of Irish descent age 40 on the 1881 Canadian census for Kincardine, Bruce South, Ontario. George Rhyndress son of Eli and Sarah married Jennie Harrington in 1890 Ogemaw. Hannah J. Rhyndress daughter of Eli and unknown married Robert Ward in 1890 Ogemaw. John Ryndress son of Eli and ? Bachaus married Mytle G. Tolang 1901 Ogemaw. The death record on www.usgenweb.com for Ogemaw County lists Sarah Jane Foote died September 5, 1937, parents Dudley Mixer and Mary Birchbill....?! Did any of that help? Laura -----Original Message----- From: mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATIANN Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:46 PM To: mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] looking for a death record I have found my grt grandmother on the 1920 census, but i can not find her anywhere else....   Her name is Sarah Jane Backhouse....married Eli A. Rhyndress....later John Peck (but found Eli was still alive).....back to him.....then after they parted...she then married John Foote....   I have on census reports that the family came to Michigan in 1886....I still haven't found the divorce report for her and Eli....if it was here or Canada....   she married John Foote in 1888 in Ogemaw county... I haven't found wether John died or they div...   the last report i have on her is 1920 she was living with a Jacobs as a servant....   She has a son that did come to Pontiac, Mi is 1923 with his wife and family....but don't know if she came later...i've looked everywhere...   Can anyone help me....   thank you Patricia A. Rhyndress granddaughter of Robert Bealby Rhyndress.... ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Laura   thanks for the info....there is some problems...that you wouldn't know...so it will be easier if i scroll down into the email...and make the comments in a diff color...but basically most if right...and you'll understand what i'm referring to....which you wouldn't know...   Patsy//// --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Laura Gould <ljgould@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Laura Gould <ljgould@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [MI-GENEALOGY] looking for a death record To: mi-genealogy@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 9:34 PM Here are some things I found...sorry if I ramble. The 1900 census for Ogemaw has John Rhyndress as head of household born January 1872 in Canada with his mother Sarah Foote widow born September 1843 in England and his brother Robert born September 1883 in Canada So apparently John Foote died before 1900. ok, that is something i didn't find...about her being a widow...i knew she was with her son John and Robert...thanks.. The 1910 census for Ogemaw has Sarah B.(?) Foot as head of household looks like it lists her with 3 marriages, married 6 years, has had 10 kids with 5 still living born England parents born England came to US in 1886.  She is living next door do Robert and his wife and daughter Cleo. It doesn't list a husband and doesn't say she is widowed....hmmm. now is the B suppose to be for a middle name or her maiden name....ok...three marriages would be right marriages: Eli A. Rhyndress.....with three kids John Peck......with four girls...(two were twins) she married him when she heard that Eli was dead  two yrs after he left..(one sunday aft to get a qt of milk) Eli A.......after he returned 8-10yrs later...and having married Mary Whelan..had three children...she died after the third...he left the kids and returned back to Sarah..and why or how..but John left...leaving her the 4 girls...so now there are 7 kids and now my grandfather Robert is born.1883..that's the 10 kids... it is in 1886 that it says they came to Michigan...but where or when did they divorce... cause in 1888 she married John Foot(e)..... i would say it was the older ones that stayed there married....George, Hannah, and three of the four Pike girls...cause Elizabeth Pike married David Best...my grandmothers uncle...she was Robert's half brother...and when Robert (my dad's father) married Martha Best....his half sister became his Aunt by marriage... so now this is where i said i can't find the divorce between Elia and Sarah...and he married Maria Chapel in Bay City after coming over from Canada....his death is in Bay City Hospital in 1907 The 1920 census for Sarah with Jacob Clark(?) says she and her parents were born in MI, I guess that could be misinformation. now i did see her with this Jacob...but what is her age there...cause her parents were born in England as was she....and there is a Sarah Foote...but I don't know if it is John's daugh of another marriage or a niece... Robert's marriage record to Martha Best for the same county gives parents names as Eli Rhyndress and Sarah Bachus.  Maybe this alternate spelling would help. yes this is right...Sarah had an Uncle that came over from England arriving to learn that a backhouse here was the name for the outhouse or shithouse...and he was too high class for that.....so it was changed...backhouse in england is the back bakery.....Backhouse, Backhaus, Bachaus, Backus, Baccus, and maybe others....as with Rhyndress...started out Rheinjert. Riness, Rhiness, Rhindress, Rhness, Ryness, and others... Sarah's marriage record to John Foote says she was married only once previously and only lists her names as Rhyndress and Backus.  Where/when did she marry John Peck? That was in Canada when Eli went away in 1872 , which also was right after the third child was born in Jan...not returning for 7-10yrs.first story i was told he went for a qt of milk one sunday aft...and didn't return right away and abt 1yrs. later Sarah learned he was dead...and then married the farm hand...John Peck...then in the late 1997 when doing genealogy with  my cousin...we received this line with Mary Whelan. from a Richard Rhyndress...that is related somehow....because he knew it was our Eli...then later cousin was told in a way...well he went to look for work..(which is what many men did in that era), but my opinion was...well that didn't give him the right to marry a woman and have three kids, and because she died after childbirth...leave those three kids and return to the real wife with three kids and have another...and raise the extra four she had while he was gone... i mean girl......is this how the song was inheirited..."I'm my own Grandma" and i just noticed that they were div...about 1885...yet on the MI census, Sara and the kids came over abt 1886....  so i guess that Eli came too.... There is a listing at www.familysearch.org that shows a Sarah Backhouse born September 10, 1843 at Garton on the Wolds, Yorkshire, England with parents Richard Backhouse and Jane....that matches her birth month and year given in the 1900 census and she could have gotten her middle name from her mother. yes, this is her middle name...and Jane's maiden name was Bealby...and that is how my grandfather Robert got his middle name. Also at familysearch there is a record for Sarah Backhouse married to Eli Angeline Rhyndress son of Eli Angevine Rhyndress and Harriet Crittenden and it gives Eli Angevine's parents as James Rhyndress and Sarah Hunt.  It gives their birth dates and places as well. Also at this site there is a Richard Backhouse born December 5, 1813 at Garton on the Wolds, Yorkshire, England with parents James Backhouse and Hannah. and i would say this is how she named her daugh.. Hannah....after her grandmother. now on top of this backhouse line...I believe it is brothers to Richard Backhouse...one went down the line that produced..the Hotel Astor.in New York...their sone John Jacob Astor (the one on the Titanic)(whose wife on the Titanic that was pg..was not his first wife..well i think they were married...he may just have gotten her pg..but was still married..) John's mother was a Jacob and her mother was a Backhouse.. then the other line went down to produce the Vandebilts...that built the Biltmore Estates in North Carolina You probably already have that Sarah's husband Eli remarried to Mary Briggs Laprine in Bay City in 1898. yea, i found this and i have also heard he married Maria Chapel...but i'm wondering if it is the same person... There is a Richard and Jane Baccus in the 1881 Canadian census for Bentinck, Grey South, Ontario. There is a Eli Rhyndress widowed of Irish descent age 40 on the 1881 Canadian census for Kincardine, Bruce South, Ontario. ok this would be widowed from Mary Whelan... George Rhyndress son of Eli and Sarah married Jennie Harrington in 1890 Ogemaw. Hannah J. Rhyndress daughter of Eli and Sarah  unknown married Robert Ward in 1890 Ogemaw.oh thank you...i've been trying to remember how John Ward was related...that's right.... John Ryndress son of Eli and  Sarah  Bachaus married Mytle G. Tolang 1901 Ogemaw. The death record on www.usgenweb.com for Ogemaw County lists Sarah Jane Foote died September 5, 1937, parents Dudley Mixer and Mary Birchbill....?! this is the other sarah foote i was telling you about Laura -genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mi-genealogy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATIANN Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:46 PM To: mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [MI-GENEALOGY] looking for a death record I have found my grt grandmother on the 1920 census, but i can not find her anywhere else....   Her name is Sarah Jane Backhouse....married Eli A. Rhyndress....later John Peck (but found Eli was still alive).....back to him.....then after they parted...she then married John Foote....   I have on census reports that the family came to Michigan in 1886....I still haven't found the divorce report for her and Eli....if it was here or Canada....   she married John Foote in 1888 in Ogemaw county... I haven't found wether John died or they div...   the last report i have on her is 1920 she was living with a Jacobs as a servant....   She has a son that did come to Pontiac, Mi is 1923 with his wife and family....but don't know if she came later...i've looked everywhere...   Can anyone help me....   thank you Patricia A. Rhyndress granddaughter of Robert Bealby Rhyndress....       ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. Please respect others by keeping your postings to this theme. MI-Genealogy Mail List Information http://www.migenweb.net/maillist.html ***************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MI-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************************** The theme of this list is Michigan genealogy and research. 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Hello - Charles Wing, born 1848 (although in the censuses this varies!), was married to Harriet/Hattie Powell; they lived in Rochester, Oakland County, Michigan from the 1880 Federal census through 1920. In 1880 Charles and Harriet had four children - Winnie, Bertie, Samuel and Arvilla. In 1900 Charles and wife Mary had four children - Bert, Ica, Joseph and Fay. In 1910 Charles was a widower (Harriet Mary Powell died in 1905) and had in his household Par, Edith and Homer. Samuel and Bert lived nearby. In 1920 Charles is in Parthenius Wing's household in Royal Oak, Oakland County, Michigan. Homer Wing was a member of the "Polar Bears" and died in Russia. The American Legion Post in Rochester, Michigan is named for him. I would like to know if there is any way of determining the parentage of this Charles Wing. Is there somewhere I can look online for a record of his death? Is there a record at the Mount Avon Cemetery, where Hattie is buried, of Charles' death and/or burial? I am also wondering if there would be an obituary for him somewhere? He should be the son of Samuel and Margaret Wing, but it would be great to be able to have a record of this! Thank you for any help you may be able to provide - Barbara