The book mentioned by Kendall Mellem, *Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists* (2nd ed.), by the late David Faris, is published by the New England Historic Genealogical Society and is considered to be one of the most scholarly works available on royal connections to the Plantagenet kings of England. The index does not mention any de Lumleys and the only Hilton mentioned is p. 267, Godfrey Hilton, who m. Eleanor de Welles. Karen Sullivan Visit Alden Kindred of America at http://www.alden.org/ --------------------------------- Once, on this earth, once, on this familiar spot of ground, walked other men and women, as actual as we are today, thinking their own thoughts, swayed by their own passions, but now all gone, one generation vanishing after another, gone as utterly as we ourselves shall shortly be gone like ghosts at cockcrow.-- G.M.Trevelyan -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Hubbard [mailto:hubfam@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:20 PM To: MEYORK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MEYORK] Re: Hiltons and Royalty? keks wrote: > I have Hiltons in York Co.--was unaware of any Hilton connection to > royalty. > Who was the immigrant ancestor with the royal connection? I don't see > one > listed in David Faris' _Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century > Colonists_, 2nd edition. Is this a new discovery? > > Kendall Mellem > Thomas de Lumley married Elizabeth Plantagenet. If that isn't in the book, I'd hazzard a guess the book isn't worth the salt you paid for it. Their daughter Sybil married William Hilton, who was the father of Mark Roger Hilton, who was the father of the Hiltons of New Hampshire. Henry II of England + Alys of Porhoet were Hilton ancestors. That should nail down the Royalty issue. There are literally hundreds of "Royalty" ancestors of the Hiltons in the Royalty.GED I mentioned and sent out. In fact, in that ged, I discovered a common ancestor of 1) the Dudleys, 2) the Hiltons, 3) the Hubbards of Maine, 4) the Hutchinsons, 5) the Wheelwrights of Mass and Maine, 6) Pres. Abe Lincoln's line, and 7) Pres. Geo. Washington's line. I also know the ancestors of Presidents Bush and Franklin Roosevelt are in there. 'Gene Hubbard ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello again! Just for the record, I found one other reference to the (de) Lumleys in the Faris book, on p. 171. Bertram HARBOTTLE [7th in descent from Edward I]... "He was married in 1439 to JOAN LUMLEY, daughter of Thomas Lumley, 2nd Lord Lumley (of Magna Carta Surely descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by Margaret daughter of James Haringon, Knt., of Wolfage... They had one son and five daughters. He entered on the estates on the death in 1450 of Elizabeth, Lady Hilton, widow of Bertram Monboucher..." Not being familiar with the previous de Lumley citations, I'm not sure that this is the same Lumley family, but in any case, Faris offers no royal connection for the Hiltons. Kendall Mellem ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Sullivan <ksullivan@hvc.rr.com> To: <MEYORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [MEYORK] Re: Hiltons and Royalty? > The book mentioned by Kendall Mellem, *Plantagenet Ancestry of > Seventeenth-Century Colonists* (2nd ed.), by the late David Faris, is > published by the New England Historic Genealogical Society and is considered > to be one of the most scholarly works available on royal connections to the > Plantagenet kings of England. The index does not mention any de Lumleys and > the only Hilton mentioned is p. 267, Godfrey Hilton, who m. Eleanor de > Welles. > > Karen Sullivan >