In a message dated 8/7/03 3:01:18 PM, Bunnydust@comcast.net writes: << I checked the OLD KITTERY AND HER FAMILIES, Stackpole,reprint,1970 ( I do not know how accurate this book is) >> I wouldn't trust it too far. Abby
I checked the OLD KITTERY AND HER FAMILIES, Stackpole,reprint,1970 ( I do not know how accurate this book is); the history of Dover, Barrington, Hampton,Kittery(Maine) are closely interwoven. Ayer/Ayers/ page: 114: "Edward Ayers" 1680 (land grants along the Newichawannock) page 150: "Edward Ayers", 1712 (estate values) ------------------------------------------------- VITAL RECORDS OF HAMTPON,NH ; George F.Sanborn and Melinde Lutz Sanborn,NEHGS, 1992 Ayer/Ayers page 78: Samuel Ayers and Mary Johnson, were joined in mariag: 12 december 1681 page 136: Daniel Philbrick and Margrit Aiers joyed in marriage the 12 day of Nov. 1752 ------------------------------------------------------ Now, is it possible that these COULD BE relatives of Hatevil Nutter's wife, Ann(e) ???......longshot. Cynthia
Bruce, Normally, I would reply privately, but thought maybe someone else on the list had the same problem. Those of you who don't, can't now hit the delete button :-) > I have made halfhearted attempts to identify Micom's ancestors in Scotland, > without success. Has anyone been there/done that? Thanks in advance for your > help. Was Micom one of the Scots taken to Saugus first as indentured servant/slave to work the ironworks there and then settled in ME after (when it was still MA)?? The year 1650 fits it w/ that. My ancestor, Peter Grant, was also captured at the Battle of Dunbar, shipped to Saugus, and later settled in ME. My husband and I have been to Scotland three times and other descendants have apparently searched there and also in London where the ship's records are supposed to be and have found nothing of Peter's ancestry. Family lore has it that he was from Inverness, though might have been Inverness-shire. The librarian in the genealogy section of the Inverness Public Library said Cromwell did a good job of destroying the records for a certain time period (can't remember the years covered, but it would surely have included birth and christening for Peter) and that it's unlikely any would be found. Others who have searched more extensively than I have said the same. The 2nd time we were in Scotland, I had the joy of being able to attend the Abernethy Games at Nethy Bridge where the Clan Grant is the only clan w/ tent, etc., and has been since 18-something. I spoke briefly w/ the chief of the clan and a couple other people. (They weren't even aware of the Scots having been taken to Saugus.) Not having a precise map of what area Inverness-shire covered, and certainly not for 1650s, I asked a few questions. I had come to the conclusion after having gone to Dunbar and spoken w/ a guy who runs a one-man museum there and in speaking w/ others that the part of the shire around Inverness was more Catholic Grant and the eastern part is more Protestant which Peter was. The conversations at the games confirmed that conclusion. So, another trip is highly needed :-) to investigate more in that vicinity since I had been always in and around Inverness City. And, to try to get more information from the guy in Dunbar even though I can only understand abt. 25% of what he says (HEAVY brogue!). Depending on whether Micom was Protestant or Catholic should lead you to the proper area of wherever you think/know/have heard he is from originally. Search of records in London PRO, I think it is, might give up some information. Other than that.....With Cromwell having burned the records, kinda hard to come up w/ much, if anything. Any further questions, feel free to write me privately, Toby Hurley > > Bruce Bardes > Cincinnati > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
Hello Folks -- Part of my wife's ancestry includes the following: ** Susanna McIntire; b. 16 May 1709 in York, York, ME; m. Joseph Main on 6 Sep 1733 in York. ** John McIntire, father of Susannah; b. abt 1677 in York; m. Susannah Young aft 1698 in York; d. 1771 ** Malcolm "Micom" McIntire, father of John; b. Scotland; captured by Cromwell's army at Battle of Dunbar in 1650; shipped to North America; m. Dorothy Pierce/Pearce; d. aft 17 Apr 1700 in York. We estimate that Micom's birth would have been about 1630, plus or minus a few years. He was presumably an adult when captured at Dunbar (I assume 16+ years old), but still a young man. After all, his son John was born in 1677, and he lived past 17 Apr 1700. Micom's friend and fellow Scotsman, Alexander MacKaneer, had married a Maine woman, Dorothy Pierce/Pearce. Part of the legend of that era is that as MacKaneer was dying, McIntire promised that he would take care of Dorothy. So McIntire married Dorothy. That would explain his relatively old age when his son John was born. [Micom and Dorothy had two other sons, Micom Jr and Daniel, but I have no birth dates for these guys.] I have made halfhearted attempts to identify Micom's ancestors in Scotland, without success. Has anyone been there/done that? Thanks in advance for your help. Bruce Bardes Cincinnati
Carol, Victor and Dorothy, Kennebunk Vital Records on microfilm at Church of the Later-Day Saints. 1729-1892 also at Maine State Archives in Augusta. http://www.state.me.us/sos/arc/geneology/ Note: Kennebunk was not incorporated until 1820 so the records overlap with Wells LDS Family History Center 29 Ocean House Road Cape Elizabeth, ME 04107 207-767-5000 For other early records from Wells/Kennebunk contact: Historical Society for Wells and Ogunquit PO Box 801 Post Rd (rt 1) Wells, ME 04090 207-646-4775 for marriages from 1892-1996 there is a searchable database online at the Maine State archives at http://thor.dafs.state.me.us/pls/archives/archdev.marriage_archive.search_form MSA also has a searchable database of deaths from 1960-1996 http://thor.dafs.state.me.us/pls/archives/archdev.death_archive.search_form I have a digital image of the 1856 map of Kennebunk with names at http://www.mykennebunks.com/web_Kbunk_1856.jpg I have the York County Atlas 1872 with names at the Kennebunkport Historical Society York County 1790 census at ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/me/york/census/census/1790/. Remember that Kennebunk was part of Wells in 1790 I have 1850 census images for Kennebunk at the Kennebunkport Historical Society. They are not indexed so you would have to look at every page. I have 1870 census images for Kennebunk at the Kennebunkport Historical Society. These are indexed by Heritage books I have the 1860 Maine census index at the Kennebunkport Historical Society I have the 1904 York County Directory index at the Kennebunkport Historical Society, that lists HOH, age, occupation and all the people living in the house. The Kennebunk Free Library has the Andrew Walker diaries and a card file containing obituary transcriptions and genealogical queries of the area. They also have the John Eldridge Frost series of York County Cemetery inscriptions and many Genealogical dictionaries that are useful for early history I have Kennebunk Cemetery inscriptions with an index the Kennebunkport Historical Society. Kennebunkport Genealogy Records are plentiful the Kennebunkport Historical Society. If anyone is researching in Kennebunkport, let me know and I will list those resources. Maine Historical Society in Portland You can search their collection here. http://www.mainehistory.com/ Maine Memory Net is very interesting, though more historical than genealogical. http://www.mainememory.net/ I'm sure this list is incomplete but I will add to it as I think of things. Good Luck! Sharon
I hope this helps www.brickstoremuseum.org Brick Store Museum 117 Main Street, Kennebunk, Maine 04043, Phone: 207-985-4802, http://www.kennebunk.lib.me.us/ Kennebunk Free Library 112 Main St Kennebunk, ME 04043 Phone: (207)985-2173 http://www.kporthistory.org/ Kennebunkport Historical Society 125-135 North Street Kennebunkport, ME 04046 (207)967-2751
Thank you so much for all of the responses I received from the list. Just exactly what I needed. What a difference it makes in what you can accomplish on a trip when you know ahead of time what's available, where. Since York County is my main area of interest, this list is invaluable to me. Carol Dobson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Cummins" <sharonlynn@adelphia.net> To: <MEYORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:22 AM Subject: [MEYORK] More Newspapers > [Extracts from a manuscript History of Wells and Kennebunk, by E. E. Bourne, Esq.]
[Extracts from a manuscript History of Wells and Kennebunk, by E. E. Bourne, Esq.] "In 1803 Stephen Sewall commenced the publication of the ANNALS OF THE TIMES. It seems to have been started under very favorable auspices, so far as regarded the patronage of advertisers. Many persons in Portsmouth advertised their goods in its columns, and also a respectable number in Wells and other towns in the county. But the subscription patronage was insufficient to sustain it, and the paper was continued but one year. Occasionally the paper contained respectable communications on political questions and things of local interest. Sewall wrote the ode for the Fourth of July, 1803, which was sung with effect on that occasion. His position as publisher of this paper not meeting his aspirations, he abandoned it in 1804, moved to Scarboro', and there established himself as a Thompsonian physician. "In the beginning of 1805 another attempt was made to establish a newspaper in Kennebunk by William Weeks. This enterprise was not as successful as the former. The paper was denominated the KENNEBUNK 'GAZETTE. We have a single copy of it, dated July 24. From this specimen we are of the opinion that the people took but little interest in sustaining it. Though this was the 19th number, beside the post master's notice of letters remaining in the office, it contains but a single advertisement. The paper is made up entirely of collections, containing nothing editorial and no original communications. It was continued but a little while, when the publisher moved to Saco ; thence to Portland; then to Portsmouth, where in 1809 he became the publisher of the New Hampshire Gazette. " Another paper was attempted soon after, of which we have been unable to ascertain the name or the publisher. We believe it was called the EAGLE OF MAINE ; but no relics of it have been found, so that we know nothing of its character or of the length of its days. "A fourth paper, denominated the WEEKLY VISITOR, was started in 1809 by James K. Remick. The publisher seems to have had more sympathy from the public than his predecessors. The advertising support of a! newspaper we suppose to be very essential to its success. This was very liberally given to the Visitor. A great deal of original matter was also furnished. Previous failures probably moved the people to a more active interest in its success than they manifested in the previous enterprises. The paper soon acquired a satisfactory footing, and maintained its position between thirty and forty years, though its name was changed to Kennebunk Gazette, July 7, 1821. By a wise and prudent management of the financial concerns of the establishment, the publisher acquired a very comfortable independence, which be transmitted to his son. "All the publishers of these papers, in addition to the work of their profession, kept a book-store, supplying the public with stationery, school books, etc. "THE COLUMBIAN STAR, at Alfred, was continued but a short time. Its establishment was designed for two objects -to aid in the election of Crawford, and in the location of all the courts a! t Alfred. These two questions being removed from the public mind, no interest in it was strong enough for its support."
Hi, all, A quick comment on the Maine Democrat newspaper published in Biddeford and Saco, which is somewhat likely to have news of Kennebunk and Kennebunkport. The two reels I looked at are sadly very slim, and have only a few dates on them. Missing dates include Reel 7 Oct 1829 18 Mar 1835 15 Apr 1835 8 Aug 1843 3 Sep 1844 22 Oct 1844 18 Nov 1845 22 Jun 1858 Reel 13 Oct 1868 10, 17, 31 Mar 1870 12 May 1870 2, 30 Jun 1870 7, 28, Jul 1870 4, 11, 18, 25 Aug 1870 1, 8, 15, 22 Sep 1870 NPM On 30 Jul 2003 at 1:20, Dana Edgecomb wrote about Re: [MEYORK] Newspapers: > Hi folks; > If you go to my website at > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/4962/index2.html > scroll down and you will find links to lists of newspapers > published in Maine in 1860, 1886 and 1901. Also, a link to the > Fogler Library newspaper collection. Best wishes, Dana Edgecomb > > At 05:01 AM 7/29/03 -0500, Carol L. Dobson wrote: > >What newspapers would have had Kennebunkport/Cape > >Porpoise/Arundel/Kennebunk news in the last quarter of the 19th > >century? > > > >Thank you for any help you can give me. > > > >Carol Dobson > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Hi folks; If you go to my website at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/4962/index2.html scroll down and you will find links to lists of newspapers published in Maine in 1860, 1886 and 1901. Also, a link to the Fogler Library newspaper collection. Best wishes, Dana Edgecomb At 05:01 AM 7/29/03 -0500, Carol L. Dobson wrote: >What newspapers would have had Kennebunkport/Cape >Porpoise/Arundel/Kennebunk news in the last quarter of the 19th century? > >Thank you for any help you can give me. > >Carol Dobson
Original records are nearly impossible to find for some reason. I know that the Town of Kennebunk at Town Hall has many original records but I'm not sure if they are available to researchers. The Mormans came through this area and microfilmed many of the original record books in the 1950s. In some cases, they are the only copies left. In Kennebunk, they filmed town records and Church records. You might be able to look at those in your local Family Center. I have cemetery listings for Kennebunk but everything else I have is for the Port. I do have births for Chester Elijah b. Dec. 11, 1894 and Sarah Frances b. Nov. 13 1896. Both were children of Gilbert Doughty, a fisherman, who was born on Chibeague Island which is right off Portland Maine. Maybe the families were related. If I were you I would probably go to the Brick Store Museum first. Then the town hall.
The Kennebunk Free Library has newspapers on microfilm back to about the 1870s. The newspaper was called The Eastern Star. Every week there was a column for happenings in Kennebunk. Most weeks had a Kennebunkport column as well. Occasionally, you will find Cape Porpoise as a separate column but most of the time it is included with Kennebunkport. The town columns are on page 3. The Eastern Star ultimately became The York County Coast Star. Another wonderful resource for earlier information is the Andrew Walker Diaries. There are hard bound copies of all ten volumes and an index, in the research room at the library. Andrew wrote about every person and event in Kennebunk and Kennebunkport, every day mid-19th century to late 19th century. Arundel was still part of Kennebunkport until 1917, at which time it was called North Kennebunkport. It did not get the name Arundel until the 1950s. The entire area, (Kennebunkport, Cape Porpoise and Arundel) was called Cape Porpoise from 1653 to 1719; Arundel from 1719 to 1820; and finally Kennebunkport from 1820 on. If someone is listed as having come from Arundel, one must look at the date to understand where they really came from. The library has had some of the films walk away recently so they are very cautious about showing them to people. If you are persistent I am sure you will prevail. If not, try the Brickstore Museum across the street (rte 1) from the Library. They have the microfilms too. They are open Tuesday and Thursday for research. As they are a non-profit, they have to charge a fee. I think it is $25 but I'm not sure about that. I work at the Kennebunkport Historical Society. We have summer newspapers that go back to around 1920 or so. These don't contain much hard news though. More tourist information and social stuff. We do have transcripts of births, marriages and deaths as well as cemetery inscriptions. We also must charge a fee of $10 for research for non-members, as we are non-profit. If you are looking for information about a Kennebunkport person or event, we may have something in our archives. Let me know if I can be of any help. Sharon Cummins
I will be going to Kennebunkport soon and would like to look at microfilm of old newspapers, from 1865 on. I am interested in ones that would cover the Kennebunk/Kennebunkport area. I've been in contact with the Kennebunk library and know they have microfilm for 1921-1998. I don't know if earlier years weren't put on microfilm or Kennebunk just doesn't have them. I live in a small city in Indiana and we have microfilm for newspapers back in the 1800s and I can't believe that New England wouldn't have them back at least that far. What newspapers would have had Kennebunkport/Cape Porpoise/Arundel/Kennebunk news in the last quarter of the 19th century? Thank you for any help you can give me. Carol Dobson New Englander living in Indiana
I've "rescued" an old photograph of Melville C. FREEMAN taken at the S. L. Preble Studio in Waterville, Maine. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1890's with Melville likely in his late teens or early 20's at the time. Based on limited research I believe this may be a photograph of Melville C. FREEMAN b. 10 March 1874 in Maine and d. May 1966 in Kennebunkport, ME after residing in Cape Porpoise, ME. In addition to this photograph I also recovered another photograph which was taken at this same studio of Annie Elizabeth MERRILL in 1894. I've no idea if there is a connection but I mention it just in case it is a clue. I'm hoping to locate someone from Melville's family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of this family or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley
Hi List, Thanks so much to all who replied to my query...you're great! I also received e-mails from several people who asked that I share the site name(s) when I learned it/them. I've been trying to reply to the requests as I receive them, but I think I've lost one....so here, again, are the urls: http://www.hamrick.com/names/ is one, and another is http://www.gens-us.net/
No, your not going crazy. I'd remember it too and would also like to know where it is. Lynde ----- Original Message ----- From: <Katlvr9999@aol.com> To: <MEYORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: [MEYORK] Geographical concentration of surnames > A couple of years ago when I first started genealogy research I seem to > remember coming across a site that had a map of the US that would show in various > shades of blue (I think) the concentration of a particular surname by > state/region (the particular surname I was seeking at the time was definitely > concentrated in the northeast, appeared to a lesser degree on the east coast heading > south, and was virtually non-existent in the middle states and on the west > coast). > > I'm trying to find that site again... > > Does anyone know what site I'm talking about? (Or am I going crazy?) > > ______________________________ >
How can I find more about the man from MAINE state, enlisted in US Army. Could anyone explain me how can I consult this book : Roster of Maine in the Military Service of the U.S. and Allies in World War 1917-1919. Thnks a lot ERMIR ITALY
Nope, not yet anyway! One such site is at http://www.hamrick.com/names/ Best wishes, Dana At 07:37 PM 7/17/03 -0400, Katlvr9999@aol.com wrote: >A couple of years ago when I first started genealogy research I seem to >remember coming across a site that had a map of the US that would show in >various >shades of blue (I think) the concentration of a particular surname by >state/region (the particular surname I was seeking at the time was definitely >concentrated in the northeast, appeared to a lesser degree on the east >coast heading >south, and was virtually non-existent in the middle states and on the west >coast).
A couple of years ago when I first started genealogy research I seem to remember coming across a site that had a map of the US that would show in various shades of blue (I think) the concentration of a particular surname by state/region (the particular surname I was seeking at the time was definitely concentrated in the northeast, appeared to a lesser degree on the east coast heading south, and was virtually non-existent in the middle states and on the west coast). I'm trying to find that site again... Does anyone know what site I'm talking about? (Or am I going crazy?)
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