This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Luhmann, schulz, bartels, barthel, reinecke, behren, meyer, pagel, reiss,mueller Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/oh0.2ACEB/1841.1 Message Board Post: my dumb question. what book? Also did you try Martin county mn. and not sure where gardners are from in iowa. you can look for matthew and drews and lohmann and you probably find lots of info and what your looking for. rutland by northrup had martin luther church school and that's a good start. also think there was a jack meyer in Fairmont. wife may have been Elsie or something on that order. If i wrote before, excuse me. thanks