This is very interesting about Welsh names......from a great site... Bluchp56@aol.com Jerry PA-WELSH-EARLY-L@rootsweb.com X-Message: #2 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:12:52 -0700 From: "Bryan Keech" <bryankeech@cox.net> To: PA-WELSH-EARLY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000001c3d8c2$59f688d0$6600a8c0@main> Subject: RE: [PA-WELSH-EARLY] Is Keech welch? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you for your reply. Speaking of Welsh names(everyone please forgive me for the error), is Thamas a Welsh spelling of Thomas. I have a GGF and the 1880 census records his name and his sons name as Thamas. Thanks Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Emily [mailto:aulicino@hevanet.com] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 8:53 PM To: Bryan Keech; :PA-Welsh-Early-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-WELSH-EARLY] Is Keech welch? Please...the word is Welsh. Welch means to go back on a bet. To answer your question...probably not. That doesn't mean your person wasn't born in Wales, but that name is definitely not typical. Names like Evans, Bevans, Hughes, Pugh, Griffith, Lewis, William, David, Thomas, Roland, Roberts, Rogers, Cadawaldr, Rees, Price, Johns, Jones, etc. are Welsh....and many more. Think of it this way....the Welsh used given names as surnames and as the terms "map" and "mab" (meaning "son of") were used, often the first two letters of each of those were dropped. For example: Evan ap Evan would be Evan Bevan (IF the man chose to use that for a surname...and it was a matter of choice.) Rees often became Rice or Price. The following site has several links that could help you learn more about the Welsh and their naming system: http://www.gwynedd.fsbusiness.co.uk/journal2.htm http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/welsh16.html Good luck to you, E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Keech" <bryankeech@cox.net> To: <PA-WELSH-EARLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: [PA-WELSH-EARLY] Is Keech welch? > My family name is Keech. Is this a Welch name? > >