Carol, I believe that Val (I wonder if she is reading this) left because of the horrific things she said about Pat Houser. I had been corresponding with Pat for a while and abhored the things she said about Pat for no reason at all because for some reason she became very nasty and I stood up for Pat. I believe she was asked to leave and Pat left of her own accord. I asked her about coming back but she would not. About the other people you talked about, I don't remember them at all except Alice. Sometimes during the summer I log off for a couple of months and this could have happened then. Was Ema a friend of someone on the list besides Ellen? Barb