Hi All I have a problem regarding a body mole associated with possible identity fraud Presently there is a divergence of opinion as to whether an identical mole [in every respect] can occur on two different persons though probably related by a common ancestor at least 5 generations previous The mole in question is on the neck collar line, and is in a vertical line from the left corner of the mouth The persons considered are possibly born some 12 years apart but this could be far from the truth ----birth dates 1891 [definite], 1895-1904 [guestimate] For the record--definitely not identical twins Any opinion most welcome Robert

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Wow - I do medical transcription and a lot of genealogy but I haven't gotten into the DNA thing in that regard. This all sounds way out of my league....I would love to know more but to date, have compared illnesses among those few living family members around, such as lung disease and allergies. Very simple sounding, I know, and I do find the process interesting but have yet to take the time to do more investigation. Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dora Smith" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com> To: <Medical-Pedigree@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:17 PM Subject: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] What was paralysis in Massachusetts 1813? >I am working on my mitochondrial lineage. I am H1, with two previously >unseen protein changing mutations to the NADH subunit 2 gene. I am >testing the notion that people in my mitochondrial lineage often live to be >quite old but usually die of atherosclerosis if they live to reach old age. > > In my direct line of descent everyone who lived long enough died of > strokes, often with longstanding progressive atherosclerosis, but the age > at which that happened varied from 72 to 92. This timing is pretty > consistent with how atherosclerosis acts. > > The lineage is that of the daughters of Thomas King, who was in Sudbury > Massachusetts in 1641, and came from Shaftesbury, in southern England. > Three of the four daughters of Thomas King who left descendants married > sons of Edmund Rice, one of the better known and more prolific founding > fathers of New England. So I have a big mitochondrial lineage to work > with. It is not proven that all of the daughters had the same mother, > but I am seeing the same longevity pattern in all of the lines of descent. > > Now, I have this one man who died in Sturbridge, Worcester County, > Massachusetts, in 1813, at age 67, of paralysis. What did this mean? > Did he probably have a disabling stroke, or is it at all likely that he > had an early case of polio? Polio didn't often strike senior citizens on > farms even when alot of people were getting sick with it, so far as I > know. Before the mid 20th century, most people weren't clean and > isolated enough to avoid sufficient casual exposure to the germs that > caused it to avoid acquired immunity. Polio is a highly contagious > poop-born disease, but you can only get a serious case of it if you have > no immunity to it, and until the twentieth century, most people were > constantly exposed to low levels of the germs, and were immune. And > frankly I doubt that this particular line were selectively clean enough to > be selectively susceptible to polio; indeed their health history suggests > that these prosperous farmers practiced considerably poorer hygie! > ne than any of the rest of my mitochondrial lineage, let alone the rest of > my ancestors. Most of my ancestors were prosperous farmers, and even the > poor ones lost routinely just one child in childhood and few young adults. > This one line of my maternal lineage were not only regularly losing most > of their children, which was common in the entire extended inbred clan and > could be because they carried my genes for allergies and asthma, but > losing large numbers of young adults as well, which simply didn't happen > in my ancestral lines, and one common pattern was women dying two to three > weeks after the birth of a child. One child died of a vermin-born > illness seen only in conditions of severe overcrowding and nonexistent > hygiene. These people never washed, under any circumstances. > > The first polio outbreak in the U.S. was in 1843. The disease has been > known since ancient times, if an Egyptian with a withered leg necessarily > had had polio, but most people had low levels of exposure to it. The > disease is characteristically a mild to subclinical gastrointestinal > virus; you have to completely lack immunity to become more seriously ill. > > The disease was known in Egypt in ancient times. In 1789, a doctor in > Britain officially figured out it was a disease - this was the era of > Doctors without Heads > > "In the immediate pre-vaccine era, improved sanitation allowed less > frequent exposure and increased the age of primary infection. Boosting of > immunity from natural exposure became more infrequent and the number of > susceptible people grew." > > "A United States Army virus commission operating in North Africa during > World War II was mystified by the number of young servicemen contracting > polio in an area thought to be free of it. Subsequent investigations > revealed that there was polio, but it was never recognized in the acute > phase. In countries where polio was endemic, they reasoned, there were not > more cases because most people acquired immunity in infancy by having a > mild form of the disease. In countries where developments in hygiene and > sanitation had reduced the occurrence of contagious diseases, by contrast, > people no longer acquired immunity naturally in infancy and became > vulnerable to the virus when it circulated: hence the periodic epidemics. > In other words, epidemic polio was a byproduct of the measures taken to > control other infectious diseases" > > "Polio has been around for thousands of years, but it had generally been a > mild disease. When sanitation techniques improved at the end of the 19th > century, people stopped getting the mild form of polio when they were > babies. Instead, older children and adults got a more serious illness that > was extremely contagious, and yet no one knew how it was transmitted." > > In third world countries, widespread polio vaccination is worsening the > problem by breaking the chain of exposure by which children normally > acquire immunity naturally. Polio didn't used to be a problem in these > populations, and now it is. > > In Nigeria, it is widely believed that only blond people can get polio. > LOL. In Nigeria, blond people aren't from around here. The disease is > actually endemic, but most people get a characteristically unrecognizable > form of the disease in early childhood. Recently, vaccination has made > the problem much worse by breaking the chain of transmission by which > children ordinarily acquire immunity, causing people who formerly would > not have to develop serious disease. The same may be going on in India, > but noone kept track before they started vaccinating people. I don't > know how well efforts at modern sanitation are working in India. Even in > the capitol city noone drinks the water, and toothbrushes are dipped in > bottled water; my sister often goes there. > > Goats and cattle get polio. So can dogs, but apparently they get a > different strain. > > Yours, > Dora Smith > Austin, TX > tiggernut24@yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MEDICAL-PEDIGREE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Jan Marchant" <jjmarchant@optusnet.com.au> To: "Dora Smith" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com>; <medical-pedigree@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] What was paralysis in Massachusetts 1813? > Hi Dora > > I found your history of polio very interesting. I myself just MIGHT have > had > that mild form of polio you mention when I was seven years old. I come > from > England originally and in that summer we had, for the UK, very hot > weather - > a lovely summer in fact! However, for just one day that summer I was > unwell - I can't remember the exact symptoms now, but the Dr said, among > other possibilities, that it could have been a mild form of polio. Polio > was > not usually around much in England, presumably due to the cool climate, > but > that summer there was quite a lot of it and a family friend, a mother with > young children, died from it, after being put on an iron lung. > > On the subject of ancestor illness, I have one family of my ancestors in > particular who had a lot of infant deaths in the late 1800s. Apart from > the > mother, the longest-living of them was my maternal grandmother who died at > age 65, after a lifetime of undiagnosed poor health. On post mortem they > found acute lymphocytic leukaemia. I am now doing my best to outdo any > genes > I may have from that source. I know I have some as my mother noticed minor > physical features like her mother's and also I have a ginger-haired > daughter, obviously from that source as they had ginger hair. > > Regards > > Jan Marchant, Nowra, Australia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dora Smith" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com> > To: <Medical-Pedigree@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:17 AM > Subject: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] What was paralysis in Massachusetts 1813? > > >>I am working on my mitochondrial lineage. I am H1, with two previously >>unseen protein changing mutations to the NADH subunit 2 gene. I am >>testing the notion that people in my mitochondrial lineage often live to >>be >>quite old but usually die of atherosclerosis if they live to reach old >>age. >> >> In my direct line of descent everyone who lived long enough died of >> strokes, often with longstanding progressive atherosclerosis, but the age >> at which that happened varied from 72 to 92. This timing is pretty >> consistent with how atherosclerosis acts. >> >> The lineage is that of the daughters of Thomas King, who was in Sudbury >> Massachusetts in 1641, and came from Shaftesbury, in southern England. >> Three of the four daughters of Thomas King who left descendants married >> sons of Edmund Rice, one of the better known and more prolific founding >> fathers of New England. So I have a big mitochondrial lineage to work >> with. It is not proven that all of the daughters had the same mother, >> but I am seeing the same longevity pattern in all of the lines of >> descent. >> >> Now, I have this one man who died in Sturbridge, Worcester County, >> Massachusetts, in 1813, at age 67, of paralysis. What did this mean? >> Did he probably have a disabling stroke, or is it at all likely that he >> had an early case of polio? Polio didn't often strike senior citizens >> on >> farms even when alot of people were getting sick with it, so far as I >> know. Before the mid 20th century, most people weren't clean and >> isolated enough to avoid sufficient casual exposure to the germs that >> caused it to avoid acquired immunity. Polio is a highly contagious >> poop-born disease, but you can only get a serious case of it if you have >> no immunity to it, and until the twentieth century, most people were >> constantly exposed to low levels of the germs, and were immune. And >> frankly I doubt that this particular line were selectively clean enough >> to >> be selectively susceptible to polio; indeed their health history suggests >> that these prosperous farmers practiced considerably poorer hygie! >> ne than any of the rest of my mitochondrial lineage, let alone the rest >> of >> my ancestors. Most of my ancestors were prosperous farmers, and even >> the >> poor ones lost routinely just one child in childhood and few young >> adults. >> This one line of my maternal lineage were not only regularly losing most >> of their children, which was common in the entire extended inbred clan >> and >> could be because they carried my genes for allergies and asthma, but >> losing large numbers of young adults as well, which simply didn't happen >> in my ancestral lines, and one common pattern was women dying two to >> three >> weeks after the birth of a child. One child died of a vermin-born >> illness seen only in conditions of severe overcrowding and nonexistent >> hygiene. These people never washed, under any circumstances. >> >> The first polio outbreak in the U.S. was in 1843. The disease has been >> known since ancient times, if an Egyptian with a withered leg necessarily >> had had polio, but most people had low levels of exposure to it. The >> disease is characteristically a mild to subclinical gastrointestinal >> virus; you have to completely lack immunity to become more seriously ill. >> >> The disease was known in Egypt in ancient times. In 1789, a doctor in >> Britain officially figured out it was a disease - this was the era of >> Doctors without Heads >> >> "In the immediate pre-vaccine era, improved sanitation allowed less >> frequent exposure and increased the age of primary infection. Boosting of >> immunity from natural exposure became more infrequent and the number of >> susceptible people grew." >> >> "A United States Army virus commission operating in North Africa during >> World War II was mystified by the number of young servicemen contracting >> polio in an area thought to be free of it. Subsequent investigations >> revealed that there was polio, but it was never recognized in the acute >> phase. In countries where polio was endemic, they reasoned, there were >> not >> more cases because most people acquired immunity in infancy by having a >> mild form of the disease. In countries where developments in hygiene and >> sanitation had reduced the occurrence of contagious diseases, by >> contrast, >> people no longer acquired immunity naturally in infancy and became >> vulnerable to the virus when it circulated: hence the periodic epidemics. >> In other words, epidemic polio was a byproduct of the measures taken to >> control other infectious diseases" >> >> "Polio has been around for thousands of years, but it had generally been >> a >> mild disease. When sanitation techniques improved at the end of the 19th >> century, people stopped getting the mild form of polio when they were >> babies. Instead, older children and adults got a more serious illness >> that >> was extremely contagious, and yet no one knew how it was transmitted." >> >> In third world countries, widespread polio vaccination is worsening the >> problem by breaking the chain of exposure by which children normally >> acquire immunity naturally. Polio didn't used to be a problem in these >> populations, and now it is. >> >> In Nigeria, it is widely believed that only blond people can get polio. >> LOL. In Nigeria, blond people aren't from around here. The disease is >> actually endemic, but most people get a characteristically unrecognizable >> form of the disease in early childhood. Recently, vaccination has made >> the problem much worse by breaking the chain of transmission by which >> children ordinarily acquire immunity, causing people who formerly would >> not have to develop serious disease. The same may be going on in India, >> but noone kept track before they started vaccinating people. I don't >> know how well efforts at modern sanitation are working in India. Even >> in >> the capitol city noone drinks the water, and toothbrushes are dipped in >> bottled water; my sister often goes there. >> >> Goats and cattle get polio. So can dogs, but apparently they get a >> different strain. >> >> Yours, >> Dora Smith >> Austin, TX >> tiggernut24@yahoo.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MEDICAL-PEDIGREE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John and Jan: I can't find where you said anything here. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX tiggernut24@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Jan Marchant" <jjmarchant@optusnet.com.au> To: <medical-pedigree@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:44 AM Subject: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] Fw: What was paralysis in Massachusetts 1813? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John & Jan Marchant" <jjmarchant@optusnet.com.au> > To: "Dora Smith" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com>; <medical-pedigree@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 4:13 PM > Subject: Re: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] What was paralysis in Massachusetts 1813? > > >> Hi Dora >> >> I found your history of polio very interesting. I myself just MIGHT have >> had >> that mild form of polio you mention when I was seven years old. I come >> from >> England originally and in that summer we had, for the UK, very hot >> weather - >> a lovely summer in fact! However, for just one day that summer I was >> unwell - I can't remember the exact symptoms now, but the Dr said, among >> other possibilities, that it could have been a mild form of polio. Polio >> was >> not usually around much in England, presumably due to the cool climate, >> but >> that summer there was quite a lot of it and a family friend, a mother >> with >> young children, died from it, after being put on an iron lung. >> >> On the subject of ancestor illness, I have one family of my ancestors in >> particular who had a lot of infant deaths in the late 1800s. Apart from >> the >> mother, the longest-living of them was my maternal grandmother who died >> at >> age 65, after a lifetime of undiagnosed poor health. On post mortem they >> found acute lymphocytic leukaemia. I am now doing my best to outdo any >> genes >> I may have from that source. I know I have some as my mother noticed >> minor >> physical features like her mother's and also I have a ginger-haired >> daughter, obviously from that source as they had ginger hair. >> >> Regards >> >> Jan Marchant, Nowra, Australia >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dora Smith" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com> >> To: <Medical-Pedigree@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:17 AM >> Subject: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] What was paralysis in Massachusetts 1813? >> >> >>>I am working on my mitochondrial lineage. I am H1, with two previously >>>unseen protein changing mutations to the NADH subunit 2 gene. I am >>>testing the notion that people in my mitochondrial lineage often live to >>>be >>>quite old but usually die of atherosclerosis if they live to reach old >>>age. >>> >>> In my direct line of descent everyone who lived long enough died of >>> strokes, often with longstanding progressive atherosclerosis, but the >>> age >>> at which that happened varied from 72 to 92. This timing is pretty >>> consistent with how atherosclerosis acts. >>> >>> The lineage is that of the daughters of Thomas King, who was in Sudbury >>> Massachusetts in 1641, and came from Shaftesbury, in southern England. >>> Three of the four daughters of Thomas King who left descendants married >>> sons of Edmund Rice, one of the better known and more prolific founding >>> fathers of New England. So I have a big mitochondrial lineage to work >>> with. It is not proven that all of the daughters had the same mother, >>> but I am seeing the same longevity pattern in all of the lines of >>> descent. >>> >>> Now, I have this one man who died in Sturbridge, Worcester County, >>> Massachusetts, in 1813, at age 67, of paralysis. What did this mean? >>> Did he probably have a disabling stroke, or is it at all likely that he >>> had an early case of polio? Polio didn't often strike senior citizens >>> on >>> farms even when alot of people were getting sick with it, so far as I >>> know. Before the mid 20th century, most people weren't clean and >>> isolated enough to avoid sufficient casual exposure to the germs that >>> caused it to avoid acquired immunity. Polio is a highly contagious >>> poop-born disease, but you can only get a serious case of it if you have >>> no immunity to it, and until the twentieth century, most people were >>> constantly exposed to low levels of the germs, and were immune. And >>> frankly I doubt that this particular line were selectively clean enough >>> to >>> be selectively susceptible to polio; indeed their health history >>> suggests >>> that these prosperous farmers practiced considerably poorer hygie! >>> ne than any of the rest of my mitochondrial lineage, let alone the rest >>> of >>> my ancestors. Most of my ancestors were prosperous farmers, and even >>> the >>> poor ones lost routinely just one child in childhood and few young >>> adults. >>> This one line of my maternal lineage were not only regularly losing most >>> of their children, which was common in the entire extended inbred clan >>> and >>> could be because they carried my genes for allergies and asthma, but >>> losing large numbers of young adults as well, which simply didn't happen >>> in my ancestral lines, and one common pattern was women dying two to >>> three >>> weeks after the birth of a child. One child died of a vermin-born >>> illness seen only in conditions of severe overcrowding and nonexistent >>> hygiene. These people never washed, under any circumstances. >>> >>> The first polio outbreak in the U.S. was in 1843. The disease has been >>> known since ancient times, if an Egyptian with a withered leg >>> necessarily >>> had had polio, but most people had low levels of exposure to it. The >>> disease is characteristically a mild to subclinical gastrointestinal >>> virus; you have to completely lack immunity to become more seriously >>> ill. >>> >>> The disease was known in Egypt in ancient times. In 1789, a doctor in >>> Britain officially figured out it was a disease - this was the era of >>> Doctors without Heads >>> >>> "In the immediate pre-vaccine era, improved sanitation allowed less >>> frequent exposure and increased the age of primary infection. Boosting >>> of >>> immunity from natural exposure became more infrequent and the number of >>> susceptible people grew." >>> >>> "A United States Army virus commission operating in North Africa during >>> World War II was mystified by the number of young servicemen contracting >>> polio in an area thought to be free of it. Subsequent investigations >>> revealed that there was polio, but it was never recognized in the acute >>> phase. In countries where polio was endemic, they reasoned, there were >>> not >>> more cases because most people acquired immunity in infancy by having a >>> mild form of the disease. In countries where developments in hygiene and >>> sanitation had reduced the occurrence of contagious diseases, by >>> contrast, >>> people no longer acquired immunity naturally in infancy and became >>> vulnerable to the virus when it circulated: hence the periodic >>> epidemics. >>> In other words, epidemic polio was a byproduct of the measures taken to >>> control other infectious diseases" >>> >>> "Polio has been around for thousands of years, but it had generally been >>> a >>> mild disease. When sanitation techniques improved at the end of the 19th >>> century, people stopped getting the mild form of polio when they were >>> babies. Instead, older children and adults got a more serious illness >>> that >>> was extremely contagious, and yet no one knew how it was transmitted." >>> >>> In third world countries, widespread polio vaccination is worsening the >>> problem by breaking the chain of exposure by which children normally >>> acquire immunity naturally. Polio didn't used to be a problem in these >>> populations, and now it is. >>> >>> In Nigeria, it is widely believed that only blond people can get polio. >>> LOL. In Nigeria, blond people aren't from around here. The disease is >>> actually endemic, but most people get a characteristically >>> unrecognizable >>> form of the disease in early childhood. Recently, vaccination has made >>> the problem much worse by breaking the chain of transmission by which >>> children ordinarily acquire immunity, causing people who formerly would >>> not have to develop serious disease. The same may be going on in >>> India, >>> but noone kept track before they started vaccinating people. I don't >>> know how well efforts at modern sanitation are working in India. Even >>> in >>> the capitol city noone drinks the water, and toothbrushes are dipped in >>> bottled water; my sister often goes there. >>> >>> Goats and cattle get polio. So can dogs, but apparently they get a >>> different strain. >>> >>> Yours, >>> Dora Smith >>> Austin, TX >>> tiggernut24@yahoo.com >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MEDICAL-PEDIGREE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MEDICAL-PEDIGREE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dora If not polio, what about Multiple Sclerosis which can lead to paralysis? Dorothy -----Original Message----- From: medical-pedigree-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:medical-pedigree-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dora Smith Sent: Friday, 8 January 2010 8:18 a.m. To: Medical-Pedigree@rootsweb.com Subject: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] What was paralysis in Massachusetts 1813? I am working on my mitochondrial lineage. I am H1, with two previously unseen protein changing mutations to the NADH subunit 2 gene. I am testing the notion that people in my mitochondrial lineage often live to be quite old but usually die of atherosclerosis if they live to reach old age. In my direct line of descent everyone who lived long enough died of strokes, often with longstanding progressive atherosclerosis, but the age at which that happened varied from 72 to 92. This timing is pretty consistent with how atherosclerosis acts. The lineage is that of the daughters of Thomas King, who was in Sudbury Massachusetts in 1641, and came from Shaftesbury, in southern England. Three of the four daughters of Thomas King who left descendants married sons of Edmund Rice, one of the better known and more prolific founding fathers of New England. So I have a big mitochondrial lineage to work with. It is not proven that all of the daughters had the same mother, but I am seeing the same longevity pattern in all of the lines of descent. Now, I have this one man who died in Sturbridge, Worcester County, Massachusetts, in 1813, at age 67, of paralysis. What did this mean? Did he probably have a disabling stroke, or is it at all likely that he had an early case of polio? Polio didn't often strike senior citizens on farms even when alot of people were getting sick with it, so far as I know. Before the mid 20th century, most people weren't clean and isolated enough to avoid sufficient casual exposure to the germs that caused it to avoid acquired immunity. Polio is a highly contagious poop-born disease, but you can only get a serious case of it if you have no immunity to it, and until the twentieth century, most people were constantly exposed to low levels of the germs, and were immune. And frankly I doubt that this particular line were selectively clean enough to be selectively susceptible to polio; indeed their health history suggests that these prosperous farmers practiced considerably poorer hygie! ne than any of the rest of my mitochondrial lineage, let alone the rest of my ancestors. Most of my ancestors were prosperous farmers, and even the poor ones lost routinely just one child in childhood and few young adults. This one line of my maternal lineage were not only regularly losing most of their children, which was common in the entire extended inbred clan and could be because they carried my genes for allergies and asthma, but losing large numbers of young adults as well, which simply didn't happen in my ancestral lines, and one common pattern was women dying two to three weeks after the birth of a child. One child died of a vermin-born illness seen only in conditions of severe overcrowding and nonexistent hygiene. These people never washed, under any circumstances.

I am working on my mitochondrial lineage. I am H1, with two previously unseen protein changing mutations to the NADH subunit 2 gene. I am testing the notion that people in my mitochondrial lineage often live to be quite old but usually die of atherosclerosis if they live to reach old age. In my direct line of descent everyone who lived long enough died of strokes, often with longstanding progressive atherosclerosis, but the age at which that happened varied from 72 to 92. This timing is pretty consistent with how atherosclerosis acts. The lineage is that of the daughters of Thomas King, who was in Sudbury Massachusetts in 1641, and came from Shaftesbury, in southern England. Three of the four daughters of Thomas King who left descendants married sons of Edmund Rice, one of the better known and more prolific founding fathers of New England. So I have a big mitochondrial lineage to work with. It is not proven that all of the daughters had the same mother, but I am seeing the same longevity pattern in all of the lines of descent. Now, I have this one man who died in Sturbridge, Worcester County, Massachusetts, in 1813, at age 67, of paralysis. What did this mean? Did he probably have a disabling stroke, or is it at all likely that he had an early case of polio? Polio didn't often strike senior citizens on farms even when alot of people were getting sick with it, so far as I know. Before the mid 20th century, most people weren't clean and isolated enough to avoid sufficient casual exposure to the germs that caused it to avoid acquired immunity. Polio is a highly contagious poop-born disease, but you can only get a serious case of it if you have no immunity to it, and until the twentieth century, most people were constantly exposed to low levels of the germs, and were immune. And frankly I doubt that this particular line were selectively clean enough to be selectively susceptible to polio; indeed their health history suggests that these prosperous farmers practiced considerably poorer hygiene than any of the rest of my mitochondrial lineage, let alone the rest of my ancestors. Most of my ancestors were prosperous farmers, and even the poor ones lost routinely just one child in childhood and few young adults. This one line of my maternal lineage were not only regularly losing most of their children, which was common in the entire extended inbred clan and could be because they carried my genes for allergies and asthma, but losing large numbers of young adults as well, which simply didn't happen in my ancestral lines, and one common pattern was women dying two to three weeks after the birth of a child. One child died of a vermin-born illness seen only in conditions of severe overcrowding and nonexistent hygiene. These people never washed, under any circumstances. The first polio outbreak in the U.S. was in 1843. The disease has been known since ancient times, if an Egyptian with a withered leg necessarily had had polio, but most people had low levels of exposure to it. The disease is characteristically a mild to subclinical gastrointestinal virus; you have to completely lack immunity to become more seriously ill. The disease was known in Egypt in ancient times. In 1789, a doctor in Britain officially figured out it was a disease - this was the era of Doctors without Heads "In the immediate pre-vaccine era, improved sanitation allowed less frequent exposure and increased the age of primary infection. Boosting of immunity from natural exposure became more infrequent and the number of susceptible people grew." "A United States Army virus commission operating in North Africa during World War II was mystified by the number of young servicemen contracting polio in an area thought to be free of it. Subsequent investigations revealed that there was polio, but it was never recognized in the acute phase. In countries where polio was endemic, they reasoned, there were not more cases because most people acquired immunity in infancy by having a mild form of the disease. In countries where developments in hygiene and sanitation had reduced the occurrence of contagious diseases, by contrast, people no longer acquired immunity naturally in infancy and became vulnerable to the virus when it circulated: hence the periodic epidemics. In other words, epidemic polio was a byproduct of the measures taken to control other infectious diseases" "Polio has been around for thousands of years, but it had generally been a mild disease. When sanitation techniques improved at the end of the 19th century, people stopped getting the mild form of polio when they were babies. Instead, older children and adults got a more serious illness that was extremely contagious, and yet no one knew how it was transmitted." In third world countries, widespread polio vaccination is worsening the problem by breaking the chain of exposure by which children normally acquire immunity naturally. Polio didn't used to be a problem in these populations, and now it is. In Nigeria, it is widely believed that only blond people can get polio. LOL. In Nigeria, blond people aren't from around here. The disease is actually endemic, but most people get a characteristically unrecognizable form of the disease in early childhood. Recently, vaccination has made the problem much worse by breaking the chain of transmission by which children ordinarily acquire immunity, causing people who formerly would not have to develop serious disease. The same may be going on in India, but noone kept track before they started vaccinating people. I don't know how well efforts at modern sanitation are working in India. Even in the capitol city noone drinks the water, and toothbrushes are dipped in bottled water; my sister often goes there. Goats and cattle get polio. So can dogs, but apparently they get a different strain. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX tiggernut24@yahoo.com

Hi Sharon, Could this read "Bright's disease"? There are enough letters for it to read Bright's! This was a description for disease of the kidneys, and may have been acute or chronic nephritis, or kidney failure, or some less well defined disease of the kidneys.. How old was the deceased? Kind Regards, Cathie shadonkd35@aol.com wrote: > I obtained a death record today from the Philadelphia PA area in which the date of death was April 19, 1900. > > The cause of death was listed as "Briglili Disease" > > This is the way I am reading the spelling. > I am pretty sure the first 4 letters are correct with the option that the last 4 letters could be various letters. > > I have searched about a dozen medical web sites that give lists of old names and I have not come across this name.? > > Can anyone help me out? > > Curious what this disease is. > > Thank you > Sharon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MEDICAL-PEDIGREE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1553 - Release Date: 7/15/2008 5:48 AM >

At first I thought it was possibly Bright's Disease after seeing it on the many web sites I searched.? But I could not really decipher the same letters from what I was reading.? Taking another look at it this morning after receiving your email, I believe it could be Bright's Disease.? Brig is very clear.? the "h' and the "t" have loops in them and the t is not crossed as it should be.? There is definitely a letter at the end but it does not really resemble an "s" but I guess it could be. Everything is done in cursive handwriting. Looking at the handwriting for the word "white" in describing the persons color, the "h" is made the same and the "t" has a loop in it and it is crossed. The deceased was female and 40 years old. I will go in it being Bright's Disease. Thank you Sharon -----Original Message----- From: Catherine M Shaw <shawcathie@optusnet.com.au> To: medical-pedigree@rootsweb.com; shadonkd35@aol.com Sent: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:39 pm Subject: Re: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] Disease around 1900 Hi Sharon,? Could this read "Bright's disease"? There are enough letters for it to read Bright's!? ? This was a description for disease of the kidneys, and may have been acute or chronic nephritis, or kidney failure, or some less well defined disease of the kidneys..? How old was the deceased?? ? Kind Regards,? Cathie? ? shadonkd35@aol.com wrote:? > I obtained a death record today from the Philadelphia PA area in which the date of death was April 19, 1900.? >? > The cause of death was listed as "Briglili Disease"? >? > This is the way I am reading the spelling.? > I am pretty sure the first 4 letters are correct with the option that the last 4 letters could be various letters.? >? > I have searched about a dozen medical web sites that give lists of old names and I have not come across this name.? >? > Can anyone help me out?? >? > Curious what this disease is.? >? > Thank you? > Sharon? > > -------------------------------? > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MEDICAL-PEDIGREE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------? >? >? > No virus found in this incoming message.? > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1553 - Release Date: 7/15/2008 5:48 AM? > ?

I obtained a death record today from the Philadelphia PA area in which the date of death was April 19, 1900. The cause of death was listed as "Briglili Disease" This is the way I am reading the spelling. I am pretty sure the first 4 letters are correct with the option that the last 4 letters could be various letters. I have searched about a dozen medical web sites that give lists of old names and I have not come across this name.? Can anyone help me out? Curious what this disease is. Thank you Sharon

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Hi Liz I have no idea whether or not there is a connection with TB but just wanted to say, what a fascinating story! Thanks. Dorothy -----Original Message----- I'll try to explain the story without writing "war and peace".

Hi All, Thank you to all the responses to my enquiry... they are all very much appreciated. In my last email I indicated that it seemed fairly simple that there was no connection to TB, but now with the mention of inanition due to chronic digestive disorders, it makes me wonder... I'll try to explain the story without writing "war and peace". It all begins with this little baby's great grandfather, George S who came to Australia in 1873. George died in 1875 from tuberculosis and I am presuming that he came to Australia with the disease. George S's and his wife had a daughter, Maude, in 1873, just after they arrived. From what I have read, Maude was either born with the TB infection in her body or contracted it shortly after she was born. As a young child her body was able to "wall off" the infection and as she was fostered out after her father's death, she may have never known that she had been exposed to the disease. Maude died 30 years later from tuberculosis. She was married and had 3 children. However, 4 years before she died her third child died at about 4 months old from Ileocolitis or Crohn's disease as it is now known. When I looked into the story about this disease I found an article which compared the similarities of Crohn's disease and intestinal tuberculosis. The article talked about the possibility of misdiagnosis in the past and actually stated that it will never be known how many cases of intestinal tuberculosis were misdiagnosed as Crohn's disease. So, having read this, there is very little doubt in my mind that Maude's little girl died from intestinal tuberculosis and not Ileocolitis [especially when her mother died 4 years later from TB]. Maude's other two children, William and George were about 11 and 12 years of age when she died. It is quite possible that they were both infected with the tubercule bacteria but were never aware of it. William went and got himself killed about 7 years later in WW1, so we have no idea whether he had TB or not and George grew up and married Mabel.[George died aged 40- accidental drowning] George and Mabel's first child, Raymond, is the little baby with Inanition Exhaustion as a cause of death. [is everyone still with me ?] George and Mabel also had 3 other children. 2 survived to adulthood, but one, Neville, also died about 4 years after Raymond died. Neville died from Pneumonia and Endocarditis when he was 18 months old. Now when I looked up Endocarditis, the symptoms are very similar to TB. Modern medical practice suggests that if a patient presents with symptoms of Endocarditis that they should also be checked for tuberculosis. It is possible that Neville did actually die from Endocarditis and that there wasn't one ounce of TB bacteria in his body, but then again... This is why I wanted to know about 'manition exhaustion'/'inanition exhaustion'. It could be possible that little Raymond's death due to inanition exhaustion was caused by intestinal tuberculosis, especially as there is a question mark over the cause of his brother's death.....but there is also every possibility that both of their deaths have absolutely nothing to do with TB. What do you all think? Am I trying too hard to connect these deaths with tuberculosis? Sorry, for the length of the email Cheers, Liz

Hi Barbara, Yes, the mother was alive and well. It was her first baby though and she was only 19. The couple married 6 months earlier [no points for guessing why]. She went on to have a further 3 children, 2 survived to adulthood and one died at 18 months. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Stamps" <wilks286@hotmail.com> To: <MEDICAL-PEDIGREE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] INANITION Exhaustion > Hi Liz > > Was the Mother alive and well? > My dictionary defines inanition as exhaustion from lack of food. I was > wondering if the Mother was well and able to feed the baby. Of course the > infant may have been sick and simply unable to take milk, poor thing. > > Barbara > > >>As soon as I posted my reply to Jeanne, yours came through. >>I just had another look at the d.c. and it is possible that the first two >>letters are 'In', but at first glance it really looks like an 'M'. [you >>know what the handwriting is like on these things !] >>Either way, the cause of death is basically the same in both cases... the >>infant simply failed to survive. >>For the record I was trying to make some connection with TB, but it looks >>as though this is totally unrelated. >>Thanks, >>Liz > > > > ==== MEDICAL-PEDIGREE Mailing List ==== > Have a problem with the list? > You can contact the List Admin at: > MEDICAL-PEDIGREE-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

I think the word might be inanition - it seems to relate to starvation. best wishes Margaret L Jeanne Surber <surberj@earthlink.net> wrote: Liz wrote: > Hi All, > I'm trying to find out what the 'cause of death' term "Manition Exhaustion" means. It is listed on a death certificate I have for an infant who died only 14 days old. I've googled the term, but come up with nothing to explain what it is. I've also checked just about every "old medical terms" website with no luck. Interestingly enough other people have come across the term, as it is listed on various personal family tree websites as a cause of death. > Would love to hear from anyone who knows what it is. > Cheers > Liz Manition??? Hmmmmmm.... Like you, I googled it and found it frequent mentions as a cause of death. And yet -- can't find a definition anywhere. When I found this website http://www.antiquusmorbus.com/Index.htm I thought that would surely have it listed. This website has the heading: "A Glossary of Archaic Medical Terms, Diseases and Causes of Death -- The Genealogist's Resource for Interpreting Causes of Death" and it has many interesting terms. Also it has a place to enter terms that it doesn't yet define. So I submitted "manition" and maybe they'll come up with a definition. I also found a medical dictionary at http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/omd/contents/M.html but no "manition" there either. Checked out http://www.genealogy-quest.com/glossaries/diseases1.html but nothing there either. Lots of good stuff at those websites, but no "manition." From what turned up through Google, this term was apparently used often in connection with causes of death. But no current definition seems to exist. I'm going to take a wild guess here that it's a word from the Latin word root "emanare" meaning to flow out of. Perhaps exhaustion of manition simply meant that the life force was exhausted and the individual died, i.e., the cessation of life. (?) Just a guess. If anyone can solve this puzzle, please let us all know. Or Liz, if you find out, please put it on line. Jeanne Surber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Denten" To: Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] Manition Exhaustion ? ==== MEDICAL-PEDIGREE Mailing List ==== Want to know what that medical term is on your ancestors death certificate or want to find out what a disease used to be called? Visit the following site to find out: http://www.paul_smith.doctors.org.uk/ArchaicMedicalTerms.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Movies: Check out the Latest Trailers, Premiere Photos and full Actor Database.

Hi Mary & All, As soon as I posted my reply to Jeanne, yours came through. I just had another look at the d.c. and it is possible that the first two letters are 'In', but at first glance it really looks like an 'M'. [you know what the handwriting is like on these things !] Either way, the cause of death is basically the same in both cases... the infant simply failed to survive. For the record I was trying to make some connection with TB, but it looks as though this is totally unrelated. Thanks, Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Thiele Fobian" <metaphor4@sbcglobal.net> To: <MEDICAL-PEDIGREE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] INANITION Exhaustion >I went out to google and searched on terms "infant," "exhaustion" and the >phrase "medical terms" with the following find which may solve this puzzle: > > > InanitionExhaustion from lack of nourishment; starvation. > > > Source: http://www.amlwchdata.co.uk/old_medical_terms.htm > > > Jeanne Surber <surberj@earthlink.net> wrote: > Liz wrote: >> Hi All, >> I'm trying to find out what the 'cause of death' term "Manition > Exhaustion" means. It is listed on a death certificate I have for an > infant > who died only 14 days old. I've googled the term, but come up with nothing > to explain what it is. I've also checked just about every "old medical > terms" website with no luck. Interestingly enough other people have come > across the term, as it is listed on various personal family tree websites > as > a cause of death. >> Would love to hear from anyone who knows what it is. >> Cheers >> Liz > > Manition??? Hmmmmmm.... Like you, I googled it and found it frequent > mentions as a cause of death. And yet -- can't find a definition anywhere. > When I found this website http://www.antiquusmorbus.com/Index.htm I > thought > that would surely have it listed. This website has the heading: "A > Glossary > of Archaic Medical Terms, Diseases and Causes of Death -- The > Genealogist's > Resource for Interpreting Causes of Death" and it has many interesting > terms. > > Also it has a place to enter terms that it doesn't yet define. So I > submitted "manition" and maybe they'll come up with a definition. > > I also found a medical dictionary at > http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/omd/contents/M.html but no "manition" there > either. > > Checked out http://www.genealogy-quest.com/glossaries/diseases1.html but > nothing there either. > > Lots of good stuff at those websites, but no "manition." > >>From what turned up through Google, this term was apparently used often in > connection with causes of death. But no current definition seems to exist. > > I'm going to take a wild guess here that it's a word from the Latin word > root "emanare" meaning to flow out of. Perhaps exhaustion of manition > simply meant that the life force was exhausted and the individual died, > i.e., the cessation of life. (?) Just a guess. > > If anyone can solve this puzzle, please let us all know. Or Liz, if you > find > out, please put it on line. > > Jeanne Surber > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liz Denten" > > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:57 PM > Subject: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] Manition Exhaustion ? > > > > > ==== MEDICAL-PEDIGREE Mailing List ==== > Want to know what that medical term is on your ancestors death certificate > or want to find out what a disease used to be called? > Visit the following site to find out: > http://www.paul_smith.doctors.org.uk/ArchaicMedicalTerms.htm > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > ========================== > Mary Thiele Fobian > Genealogical & Historical Research > Pacific Grove, California > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MEDICAL-PEDIGREE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send a message to: > Medical-Pedigree-L-request@rootsweb.com (list mode) > Medical-Pedigree-D-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode) > with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Jeanne, You know you could be right. Maybe it's just a fancy term for "failure to survive". I will keep looking though, and let you and the list know if I find anything. Thanks, Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Surber" <surberj@earthlink.net> To: <MEDICAL-PEDIGREE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] Manition Exhaustion ? > Liz wrote: >> Hi All, >> I'm trying to find out what the 'cause of death' term "Manition > Exhaustion" means. It is listed on a death certificate I have for an > infant > who died only 14 days old. I've googled the term, but come up with nothing > to explain what it is. I've also checked just about every "old medical > terms" website with no luck. Interestingly enough other people have come > across the term, as it is listed on various personal family tree websites > as > a cause of death. >> Would love to hear from anyone who knows what it is. >> Cheers >> Liz > > Manition??? Hmmmmmm.... Like you, I googled it and found it frequent > mentions as a cause of death. And yet -- can't find a definition > anywhere. > When I found this website http://www.antiquusmorbus.com/Index.htm I > thought > that would surely have it listed. This website has the heading: "A > Glossary > of Archaic Medical Terms, Diseases and Causes of Death -- The > Genealogist's > Resource for Interpreting Causes of Death" and it has many interesting > terms. > > Also it has a place to enter terms that it doesn't yet define. So I > submitted "manition" and maybe they'll come up with a definition. > > I also found a medical dictionary at > http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/omd/contents/M.html but no "manition" there > either. > > Checked out http://www.genealogy-quest.com/glossaries/diseases1.html but > nothing there either. > > Lots of good stuff at those websites, but no "manition." > > From what turned up through Google, this term was apparently used often in > connection with causes of death. But no current definition seems to > exist. > > I'm going to take a wild guess here that it's a word from the Latin word > root "emanare" meaning to flow out of. Perhaps exhaustion of manition > simply meant that the life force was exhausted and the individual died, > i.e., the cessation of life. (?) Just a guess. > > If anyone can solve this puzzle, please let us all know. Or Liz, if you > find > out, please put it on line. > > Jeanne Surber > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liz Denten" <lizbethd@optushome.com.au> > To: <MEDICAL-PEDIGREE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:57 PM > Subject: [MEDICAL-PEDIGREE] Manition Exhaustion ? > > > > > ==== MEDICAL-PEDIGREE Mailing List ==== > Want to know what that medical term is on your ancestors death certificate > or want to find out what a disease used to be called? > Visit the following site to find out: > http://www.paul_smith.doctors.org.uk/ArchaicMedicalTerms.htm > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Hi All, I'm trying to find out what the 'cause of death' term "Manition Exhaustion" means. It is listed on a death certificate I have for an infant who died only 14 days old. I've googled the term, but come up with nothing to explain what it is. I've also checked just about every "old medical terms" website with no luck. Interestingly enough other people have come across the term, as it is listed on various personal family tree websites as a cause of death. Would love to hear from anyone who knows what it is. Cheers Liz