Hi Jeff; Maine Cemetery Inscriptions:Kennebec County were published in 1999. Here is a John, probably the father: p. 356 Forest Grove Cemetery in Augusta Richards, John A. 30 Nov. 1821-9 Feb 1872 [51] Lucia Bradford, his wife, 10 June 1825-25 Sept. 1898. I believe that the no. [51] in the square brackets indicates the lot number in the cemetery. Best wishes, Dana Edgecomb Standish, Maine At 07:45 PM 1/3/02 +0100, you wrote: >Could some kind soul out there (and I know there are many of you) check >the 1860 Maine census for Kennebec county for John A. Richards. > >Here is the continuing story of my attempt to break down a brick wall: I >found a marriage record from the IGI for a John A. Richards and a Nancy E. >Allard from 7 Dec 1863. I suspect that this John A. Richards might be the >father of my great-grandfather who was also John A. (for Albert) Richards, >who was born on 25 Oct 1864 (or '65). The John A. Richards who got >married in 1863 was born in Hallowell, Kennebec County, in 1848 and was >the son of -- yes -- John Richards, himself born in 1818 in Hallowell, >Kennebec County, Maine (this would make three John Richards in a row....or >brick wall to the third power...), so perhaps there is some census listing >in 1860 in Hallowell for a John Richards (Number 1) who was 42 with a son >named John Richards (Number 2) who would have been 12 in 1860. > >All this numbering reminds me a little of the Twelve Days of Christmas. > >Besides the IGI marriage record, I have found no other record for John >Richards and his wife Nancy, nee Allard. I am assuming that both were >very, very young, that perhaps Nancy died in childbirth, and that John >Albert Richards (if indeed he were their son) took off for parts west, >landing in California in the 1880s. > >Thanks for any help you kind souls out there might give and best wishes >for a Happy New Year from a cold and snowy northwest Germany, > >Jeff Richards >Muenster, Germany > > >==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to >XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with >your state abbreviation ) > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
Dear Dana, Thanks so much. The John A. married to Lucia is unfortunately a different John A. from the one I am looking for. The reason I was hoping for an 1860 entry is that I couldn't find one in the ancestry.com index (they list 61 John Richards in the Maine censuses from 1800-90, and the ones that I'm focusing on were nos. 21-30 for Kennebec Co.). I pulled up the 1850 census image at ancestry.com for Hallowell, Maine (p. 187) and there is John Richards, aged 31, married to Lavinia, 31, with their three lovely children: Emma, Emerly and John A. John A. is aged two, just as I had expected. So far, so good. So I did a parent search at familysearch.com for John Richards and Lavinia, and up popped the first two daughters of the couple, Emma P., Emerly B., much as I expected, but no John A. What seems to be a first child, named Edwin, born 1841, also popped up, and I assume he died as a child. Down the list of children of John and Lavinia is a John Edwin Richards, also born in 1848, but in Cumberland, not in Hallowell, Maine. So I'm confused. The December 1863 Hallowell marriage record in the IGI for John A. Richards and Nancy E. Allard fits the John A. in 1850 census. I haven't looked at the 1860 census results -- though nothing came up for any Richards in Hallowell on ancestry.com's index. So, like I said, I am confused. Kind souls, out there, help! And thanks for your help. Best, Jeff Richards Muenster, Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Edgecomb" <nighthawk@psouth.net> To: <ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [ME-CENSUS] Kennebec/1860/Richards > Hi Jeff; > Maine Cemetery Inscriptions:Kennebec County were published in 1999. > Here is a John, probably the father: > > p. 356 Forest Grove Cemetery in Augusta > Richards, John A. 30 Nov. 1821-9 Feb 1872 [51] > Lucia Bradford, his wife, 10 June 1825-25 Sept. 1898. > > I believe that the no. [51] in the square brackets indicates > the lot number in the cemetery. > Best wishes, > Dana Edgecomb > Standish, Maine > > > > At 07:45 PM 1/3/02 +0100, you wrote: > >Could some kind soul out there (and I know there are many of you) check > >the 1860 Maine census for Kennebec county for John A. Richards. > > > >Here is the continuing story of my attempt to break down a brick wall: I > >found a marriage record from the IGI for a John A. Richards and a Nancy E. > >Allard from 7 Dec 1863. I suspect that this John A. Richards might be the > >father of my great-grandfather who was also John A. (for Albert) Richards, > >who was born on 25 Oct 1864 (or '65). The John A. Richards who got > >married in 1863 was born in Hallowell, Kennebec County, in 1848 and was > >the son of -- yes -- John Richards, himself born in 1818 in Hallowell, > >Kennebec County, Maine (this would make three John Richards in a row....or > >brick wall to the third power...), so perhaps there is some census listing > >in 1860 in Hallowell for a John Richards (Number 1) who was 42 with a son > >named John Richards (Number 2) who would have been 12 in 1860. > > > >All this numbering reminds me a little of the Twelve Days of Christmas. > > > >Besides the IGI marriage record, I have found no other record for John > >Richards and his wife Nancy, nee Allard. I am assuming that both were > >very, very young, that perhaps Nancy died in childbirth, and that John > >Albert Richards (if indeed he were their son) took off for parts west, > >landing in California in the 1880s. > > > >Thanks for any help you kind souls out there might give and best wishes > >for a Happy New Year from a cold and snowy northwest Germany, > > > >Jeff Richards > >Muenster, Germany > > > > > >==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > >To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > >XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with > >your state abbreviation ) > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Please put your census books to good use and help to locate someone's family. > Genealogists don't grow old, we only lose our CENSUS. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Jeff- I'm not sure if you've seen these two entries, perhaps he was in a different township. I pulled these up in the ancestry.com AIS census index. Hope it helps, Nancy, Ont. Canada (also cold and snowy) 1860 RICHARDS John A. - Kennebec Co - ME - pg.233 - Augusta(twnshp) - Fed Pop Sched 1860 RICHARDS John - Kennebec Co - ME - pg. 677 - Winslow(twnshp) - Fed Pop Sched ----- Original Message ----- From: E. J. Richards To: ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [ME-CENSUS] Kennebec/1860/Richards Dear Dana, Thanks so much. The John A. married to Lucia is unfortunately a different John A. from the one I am looking for. The reason I was hoping for an 1860 entry is that I couldn't find one in the ancestry.com index (they list 61 John Richards in the Maine censuses from 1800-90, and the ones that I'm focusing on were nos. 21-30 for Kennebec Co.). I pulled up the 1850 census image at ancestry.com for Hallowell, Maine (p. 187) and there is John Richards, aged 31, married to Lavinia, 31, with their three lovely children: Emma, Emerly and John A. John A. is aged two, just as I had expected. So far, so good. So I did a parent search at familysearch.com for John Richards and Lavinia, and up popped the first two daughters of the couple, Emma P., Emerly B., much as I expected, but no John A. What seems to be a first child, named Edwin, born 1841, also popped up, and I assume he died as a child. Down the list of children of John and Lavinia is a John Edwin Richards, also born in 1848, but in Cumberland, not in Hallowell, Maine. So I'm confused. The December 1863 Hallowell marriage record in the IGI for John A. Richards and Nancy E. Allard fits the John A. in 1850 census. I haven't looked at the 1860 census results -- though nothing came up for any Richards in Hallowell on ancestry.com's index. So, like I said, I am confused. Kind souls, out there, help! And thanks for your help. Best, Jeff Richards Muenster, Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Edgecomb" <nighthawk@psouth.net> To: <ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [ME-CENSUS] Kennebec/1860/Richards > Hi Jeff; > Maine Cemetery Inscriptions:Kennebec County were published in 1999. > Here is a John, probably the father: > > p. 356 Forest Grove Cemetery in Augusta > Richards, John A. 30 Nov. 1821-9 Feb 1872 [51] > Lucia Bradford, his wife, 10 June 1825-25 Sept. 1898. > > I believe that the no. [51] in the square brackets indicates > the lot number in the cemetery. > Best wishes, > Dana Edgecomb > Standish, Maine > > > > At 07:45 PM 1/3/02 +0100, you wrote: > >Could some kind soul out there (and I know there are many of you) check > >the 1860 Maine census for Kennebec county for John A. Richards. > > > >Here is the continuing story of my attempt to break down a brick wall: I > >found a marriage record from the IGI for a John A. Richards and a Nancy E. > >Allard from 7 Dec 1863. I suspect that this John A. Richards might be the > >father of my great-grandfather who was also John A. (for Albert) Richards, > >who was born on 25 Oct 1864 (or '65). The John A. Richards who got > >married in 1863 was born in Hallowell, Kennebec County, in 1848 and was > >the son of -- yes -- John Richards, himself born in 1818 in Hallowell, > >Kennebec County, Maine (this would make three John Richards in a row....or > >brick wall to the third power...), so perhaps there is some census listing > >in 1860 in Hallowell for a John Richards (Number 1) who was 42 with a son > >named John Richards (Number 2) who would have been 12 in 1860. > > > >All this numbering reminds me a little of the Twelve Days of Christmas. > > > >Besides the IGI marriage record, I have found no other record for John > >Richards and his wife Nancy, nee Allard. I am assuming that both were > >very, very young, that perhaps Nancy died in childbirth, and that John > >Albert Richards (if indeed he were their son) took off for parts west, > >landing in California in the 1880s. > > > >Thanks for any help you kind souls out there might give and best wishes > >for a Happy New Year from a cold and snowy northwest Germany, > > > >Jeff Richards > >Muenster, Germany > > > > > >==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > >To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > >XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with > >your state abbreviation ) > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Please put your census books to good use and help to locate someone's family. > Genealogists don't grow old, we only lose our CENSUS. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== In the U.S., a census has been taken every 10 years from 1790 through 1990. All censuses taken after 1920 are still confidential and the information they contain is not open to the public. The census from 1790 through 1840 only named the head of the household and the numbers of people in categories - 3 males over 16, 2 males under 16, etc. The census from 1850 through 1920 lists each member of the household and usually gives the relationship to the head of the house. It also gives age (later years give birth month and year) and place of birth (usually just the state or foreign country). The 1890 census was almost totally destroyed by fire so there is a 20 year gap between 1880 and 1900. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237