Could SKS do a search for Hobart DODGE in Kennebec Co, please? My records show him b. 1840 in Clinton. TIA Ruthie DODGE Lame

Hello, all. I am trying to determine if a Luther Smith (or his wife Charlotte) was still alive in Shapleigh, York County (or possibly Waterborough or another nearby town) in 1900. I have him as age 69 in the 1880 census, so was assuming that he had died sometime in the next ten or twenty years, but the clerk at the York County probate court was unable to find a probate record for him in their index up to 1900. Given the lack of a probate record, I thought a 1900 census check would be a reasonable next step. Of course, he might simply have not left a probate record, or it could have been lost, or ... Luther would have been about 90 in 1900 -- old, but possible -- and I have as family members from earlier censuses his wife Charlotte and children Mehitable, Joanna, James, Sarah Jane, Erastus, Stephen, Isaiah, and Susan. I assume Luther and Charlotte would be living with one of the children if they were still alive. Any help would be most appreciated. Ruy Cardoso __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

Searching for parents of Phila and Gertrude Hill, both born in Maine. Phila born March 14, 1868 and Gertrude born February 8, 1874. Phila is shown living with an Aunt & Uncle in the 1880 census in Yarmouth. Thanks BobW

Thank you. This has stumped me for a number of years. I sure appreciate you efforts. BobW

Dear Dana, Thanks so much. The John A. married to Lucia is unfortunately a different John A. from the one I am looking for. The reason I was hoping for an 1860 entry is that I couldn't find one in the ancestry.com index (they list 61 John Richards in the Maine censuses from 1800-90, and the ones that I'm focusing on were nos. 21-30 for Kennebec Co.). I pulled up the 1850 census image at ancestry.com for Hallowell, Maine (p. 187) and there is John Richards, aged 31, married to Lavinia, 31, with their three lovely children: Emma, Emerly and John A. John A. is aged two, just as I had expected. So far, so good. So I did a parent search at familysearch.com for John Richards and Lavinia, and up popped the first two daughters of the couple, Emma P., Emerly B., much as I expected, but no John A. What seems to be a first child, named Edwin, born 1841, also popped up, and I assume he died as a child. Down the list of children of John and Lavinia is a John Edwin Richards, also born in 1848, but in Cumberland, not in Hallowell, Maine. So I'm confused. The December 1863 Hallowell marriage record in the IGI for John A. Richards and Nancy E. Allard fits the John A. in 1850 census. I haven't looked at the 1860 census results -- though nothing came up for any Richards in Hallowell on ancestry.com's index. So, like I said, I am confused. Kind souls, out there, help! And thanks for your help. Best, Jeff Richards Muenster, Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Edgecomb" <nighthawk@psouth.net> To: <ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [ME-CENSUS] Kennebec/1860/Richards > Hi Jeff; > Maine Cemetery Inscriptions:Kennebec County were published in 1999. > Here is a John, probably the father: > > p. 356 Forest Grove Cemetery in Augusta > Richards, John A. 30 Nov. 1821-9 Feb 1872 [51] > Lucia Bradford, his wife, 10 June 1825-25 Sept. 1898. > > I believe that the no. [51] in the square brackets indicates > the lot number in the cemetery. > Best wishes, > Dana Edgecomb > Standish, Maine > > > > At 07:45 PM 1/3/02 +0100, you wrote: > >Could some kind soul out there (and I know there are many of you) check > >the 1860 Maine census for Kennebec county for John A. Richards. > > > >Here is the continuing story of my attempt to break down a brick wall: I > >found a marriage record from the IGI for a John A. Richards and a Nancy E. > >Allard from 7 Dec 1863. I suspect that this John A. Richards might be the > >father of my great-grandfather who was also John A. (for Albert) Richards, > >who was born on 25 Oct 1864 (or '65). The John A. Richards who got > >married in 1863 was born in Hallowell, Kennebec County, in 1848 and was > >the son of -- yes -- John Richards, himself born in 1818 in Hallowell, > >Kennebec County, Maine (this would make three John Richards in a row....or > >brick wall to the third power...), so perhaps there is some census listing > >in 1860 in Hallowell for a John Richards (Number 1) who was 42 with a son > >named John Richards (Number 2) who would have been 12 in 1860. > > > >All this numbering reminds me a little of the Twelve Days of Christmas. > > > >Besides the IGI marriage record, I have found no other record for John > >Richards and his wife Nancy, nee Allard. I am assuming that both were > >very, very young, that perhaps Nancy died in childbirth, and that John > >Albert Richards (if indeed he were their son) took off for parts west, > >landing in California in the 1880s. > > > >Thanks for any help you kind souls out there might give and best wishes > >for a Happy New Year from a cold and snowy northwest Germany, > > > >Jeff Richards > >Muenster, Germany > > > > > >==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > >To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > >XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with > >your state abbreviation ) > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Please put your census books to good use and help to locate someone's family. > Genealogists don't grow old, we only lose our CENSUS. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Could some kind soul out there (and I know there are many of you) check the 1860 Maine census for Kennebec county for John A. Richards. Here is the continuing story of my attempt to break down a brick wall: I found a marriage record from the IGI for a John A. Richards and a Nancy E. Allard from 7 Dec 1863. I suspect that this John A. Richards might be the father of my great-grandfather who was also John A. (for Albert) Richards, who was born on 25 Oct 1864 (or '65). The John A. Richards who got married in 1863 was born in Hallowell, Kennebec County, in 1848 and was the son of -- yes -- John Richards, himself born in 1818 in Hallowell, Kennebec County, Maine (this would make three John Richards in a row....or brick wall to the third power...), so perhaps there is some census listing in 1860 in Hallowell for a John Richards (Number 1) who was 42 with a son named John Richards (Number 2) who would have been 12 in 1860. All this numbering reminds me a little of the Twelve Days of Christmas. Besides the IGI marriage record, I have found no other record for John Richards and his wife Nancy, nee Allard. I am assuming that both were very, very young, that perhaps Nancy died in childbirth, and that John Albert Richards (if indeed he were their son) took off for parts west, landing in California in the 1880s. Thanks for any help you kind souls out there might give and best wishes for a Happy New Year from a cold and snowy northwest Germany, Jeff Richards Muenster, Germany

Jeff- I'm not sure if you've seen these two entries, perhaps he was in a different township. I pulled these up in the ancestry.com AIS census index. Hope it helps, Nancy, Ont. Canada (also cold and snowy) 1860 RICHARDS John A. - Kennebec Co - ME - pg.233 - Augusta(twnshp) - Fed Pop Sched 1860 RICHARDS John - Kennebec Co - ME - pg. 677 - Winslow(twnshp) - Fed Pop Sched ----- Original Message ----- From: E. J. Richards To: ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [ME-CENSUS] Kennebec/1860/Richards Dear Dana, Thanks so much. The John A. married to Lucia is unfortunately a different John A. from the one I am looking for. The reason I was hoping for an 1860 entry is that I couldn't find one in the ancestry.com index (they list 61 John Richards in the Maine censuses from 1800-90, and the ones that I'm focusing on were nos. 21-30 for Kennebec Co.). I pulled up the 1850 census image at ancestry.com for Hallowell, Maine (p. 187) and there is John Richards, aged 31, married to Lavinia, 31, with their three lovely children: Emma, Emerly and John A. John A. is aged two, just as I had expected. So far, so good. So I did a parent search at familysearch.com for John Richards and Lavinia, and up popped the first two daughters of the couple, Emma P., Emerly B., much as I expected, but no John A. What seems to be a first child, named Edwin, born 1841, also popped up, and I assume he died as a child. Down the list of children of John and Lavinia is a John Edwin Richards, also born in 1848, but in Cumberland, not in Hallowell, Maine. So I'm confused. The December 1863 Hallowell marriage record in the IGI for John A. Richards and Nancy E. Allard fits the John A. in 1850 census. I haven't looked at the 1860 census results -- though nothing came up for any Richards in Hallowell on ancestry.com's index. So, like I said, I am confused. Kind souls, out there, help! And thanks for your help. Best, Jeff Richards Muenster, Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Edgecomb" <nighthawk@psouth.net> To: <ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [ME-CENSUS] Kennebec/1860/Richards > Hi Jeff; > Maine Cemetery Inscriptions:Kennebec County were published in 1999. > Here is a John, probably the father: > > p. 356 Forest Grove Cemetery in Augusta > Richards, John A. 30 Nov. 1821-9 Feb 1872 [51] > Lucia Bradford, his wife, 10 June 1825-25 Sept. 1898. > > I believe that the no. [51] in the square brackets indicates > the lot number in the cemetery. > Best wishes, > Dana Edgecomb > Standish, Maine > > > > At 07:45 PM 1/3/02 +0100, you wrote: > >Could some kind soul out there (and I know there are many of you) check > >the 1860 Maine census for Kennebec county for John A. Richards. > > > >Here is the continuing story of my attempt to break down a brick wall: I > >found a marriage record from the IGI for a John A. Richards and a Nancy E. > >Allard from 7 Dec 1863. I suspect that this John A. Richards might be the > >father of my great-grandfather who was also John A. (for Albert) Richards, > >who was born on 25 Oct 1864 (or '65). The John A. Richards who got > >married in 1863 was born in Hallowell, Kennebec County, in 1848 and was > >the son of -- yes -- John Richards, himself born in 1818 in Hallowell, > >Kennebec County, Maine (this would make three John Richards in a row....or > >brick wall to the third power...), so perhaps there is some census listing > >in 1860 in Hallowell for a John Richards (Number 1) who was 42 with a son > >named John Richards (Number 2) who would have been 12 in 1860. > > > >All this numbering reminds me a little of the Twelve Days of Christmas. > > > >Besides the IGI marriage record, I have found no other record for John > >Richards and his wife Nancy, nee Allard. I am assuming that both were > >very, very young, that perhaps Nancy died in childbirth, and that John > >Albert Richards (if indeed he were their son) took off for parts west, > >landing in California in the 1880s. > > > >Thanks for any help you kind souls out there might give and best wishes > >for a Happy New Year from a cold and snowy northwest Germany, > > > >Jeff Richards > >Muenster, Germany > > > > > >==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > >To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > >XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with > >your state abbreviation ) > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Please put your census books to good use and help to locate someone's family. > Genealogists don't grow old, we only lose our CENSUS. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== In the U.S., a census has been taken every 10 years from 1790 through 1990. All censuses taken after 1920 are still confidential and the information they contain is not open to the public. The census from 1790 through 1840 only named the head of the household and the numbers of people in categories - 3 males over 16, 2 males under 16, etc. The census from 1850 through 1920 lists each member of the household and usually gives the relationship to the head of the house. It also gives age (later years give birth month and year) and place of birth (usually just the state or foreign country). The 1890 census was almost totally destroyed by fire so there is a 20 year gap between 1880 and 1900. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

there was not a John Richards in the twp you requested. I found the following 1860 RICHARDS JOHN A. Kennebec County ME 233 Augusta image 117 John A is 37 m occupation is register of deeds born ME Lucia 31 f ME Mary 10 ME there are some other living there with different names, one in particular is William Bradford aged 84 born Mass. ( he may ne Lucias father??) 1860 RICHARDS JOHN Kennebec County ME 677 Winslow 41/44 John Richards 62 m farmer 3000 4500 ME Almira 55 f ME John C 35 m farmhand ME Caroline 19 f seamstress ME Albert 16 m farm hand ME Judy & Gus AKA FoxHollow's Gentleman Gast'on CGC,NA,NAJ http://www.geocities.com/funnfur/Gus_the_TFT.html

Hi Jeff; Maine Cemetery Inscriptions:Kennebec County were published in 1999. Here is a John, probably the father: p. 356 Forest Grove Cemetery in Augusta Richards, John A. 30 Nov. 1821-9 Feb 1872 [51] Lucia Bradford, his wife, 10 June 1825-25 Sept. 1898. I believe that the no. [51] in the square brackets indicates the lot number in the cemetery. Best wishes, Dana Edgecomb Standish, Maine At 07:45 PM 1/3/02 +0100, you wrote: >Could some kind soul out there (and I know there are many of you) check >the 1860 Maine census for Kennebec county for John A. Richards. > >Here is the continuing story of my attempt to break down a brick wall: I >found a marriage record from the IGI for a John A. Richards and a Nancy E. >Allard from 7 Dec 1863. I suspect that this John A. Richards might be the >father of my great-grandfather who was also John A. (for Albert) Richards, >who was born on 25 Oct 1864 (or '65). The John A. Richards who got >married in 1863 was born in Hallowell, Kennebec County, in 1848 and was >the son of -- yes -- John Richards, himself born in 1818 in Hallowell, >Kennebec County, Maine (this would make three John Richards in a row....or >brick wall to the third power...), so perhaps there is some census listing >in 1860 in Hallowell for a John Richards (Number 1) who was 42 with a son >named John Richards (Number 2) who would have been 12 in 1860. > >All this numbering reminds me a little of the Twelve Days of Christmas. > >Besides the IGI marriage record, I have found no other record for John >Richards and his wife Nancy, nee Allard. I am assuming that both were >very, very young, that perhaps Nancy died in childbirth, and that John >Albert Richards (if indeed he were their son) took off for parts west, >landing in California in the 1880s. > >Thanks for any help you kind souls out there might give and best wishes >for a Happy New Year from a cold and snowy northwest Germany, > >Jeff Richards >Muenster, Germany > > >==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to >XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with >your state abbreviation ) > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

your request is a difficult one. I looked in 1850 York county census Saco twp and found 3 Wakefields, none contained your George. There are 31 other Wakefields in York county so I really need something else to go on, another possible county would help. Oh I also looked at the 3 George Wakefields in York county hoping for the obvious, he was named after his father, but no 12 year old sons named George. Judy & Gus AKA FoxHollow's Gentleman Gast'on CGC,NA,NAJ http://www.geocities.com/funnfur/Gus_the_TFT.html

I am searching for the parents of George W. Wakefield who was born July 25, 1838 I believe in Saco, ME. He married Sarah Hooper in April 20, 1858. Any help would be appreciated. Bob W.

For the 1850 census, I checked all the indexed Wakefield entries in York County, Maine on my FTM CD, but I found none with a George of the right age (the closest one was age 17). I also checked another George W in Washington County, but no luck there, either. I have, however, occasionally found unindexed entries on the CD, so perhaps George W is hiding somewhere in the pages for Saco. So sorry, and good luck. Ruy Cardoso --- Pgscribe8@aol.com wrote: > I am searching for the parents of George W. > Wakefield who was born July 25, > 1838 I believe in Saco, ME. He married Sarah Hooper > in April 20, 1858. > Any help would be appreciated. > > Bob W. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Dear Peg, I did some different searches to help narrow down where your Bailey family may be at. Do you have the civil war info for the History of Gorham, Maine book? Pages 345 & 346. Let me know if you don't. Bailey, John Year: 1860 County: CUMBERLAND CO. State: ME Page: 185 Location: WINDHAM Bailey, John Year: 1860 County: CUMBERLAND CO. State: ME Page: 309 Location: FREEPORT Bailey, John Year: 1860 County: CUMBERLAND CO. State: ME Page: 129 Location: WESTBROOK ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bailey, Isaac Year: 1860 County: CUMBERLAND CO. State: ME Page: 032 Location: WESTBROOK Bailey, Isaac W. Year: 1860 County: CUMBERLAND CO. State: ME Page: 109 Location: WESTBROOK _____________________________________________________________________ Then, I checked the 1850 Census to see if their was an Isaac that year. Isaac Bailey (50) was married to Louisa (45), and others: Mary (20) and Frances (16). (p.360) 1850, (p. 364) also has your John P. (25) and Mary (21) and Mary (2) living in WestBrook, Cumberland Co., Maine. Enumerated on Aug. 16, 1850. He was a teamster, born in Maine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- In 1870 Index, BAILEY , ISAAC 70 M W ME CUMBERLAND WESTBROOK roll 542 p. 488 . - Then I looked for Johns about 45 years old in 1870 Index. BAILEY, JOHN 46 M W ME WASHINGTON TOPSFIELD 563 p. 532. BAILEY , JOHN 44 M W ME AROOSTOOK LYNDON 538 p. 247 - And maybe this is a relative too, because of location and similar age to Isaac: BAILEY, JOHN 73 M W ME CUMBERLAND WESTBROOK 542 p.511 _________________________________________________ So it looks like you will at least want to get full info from the Westbrook Census 1860. Check the US GenWeb Project site for volunteers and transcribed info on the Town and County pages. Here is Westbrook: <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~mewestbr/">Westbrook</A> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mewestbr/ <A HREF="http://raogk.rootsweb.com/maine.htm">Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness --Maine</A> http://raogk.rootsweb.com/maine.htm There are may vital record books published for Cumberland County too. See the Maine Library catalog. <A HREF="http://ursus.maine.edu/search~S14">URSUS: Scope Search of Maine State Library</A> http://ursus.maine.edu/search~S14 If you have lots of relatives in one County, you may want to own a copy of the census on CD. See Heritagequest.com. They are reasonably priced. Deb Tajmajer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- In a message dated 12/27/01 9:47:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, pjb@ma.ultranet.com writes: > Subj: [ME-CENSUS] 1860 / BAILEY / Cumberland Co. > Date: 12/27/01 9:47:11 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: pjb@ma.ultranet.com (Peg) > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com">ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com</A> > To: ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > Could someone locate the family of John P. BAILEY and his wife Mary for me? > John was born in Maine about 1825, son of Isaac and Bertha BAILEY. He was a > Civil War veteran and enlisted from Gorham in 1861. > > He had a daughter named Ada, born about 1858. I believe he might be living > in Cumberland County in 1860, possibly in Gorham (census page 129) or in > Windham (census page 185). > > I'd appreciate some help with this veteran. > > Thank you. > > Peg >

Peg - there is no John P BAILEY in Cumberland Co, ME, even using the soundex at ancestry.com AIS census index. There are 32 'John Baileys' listed for ME in 1860 tho-looks like a popular name then. Perhaps he is listed under another 'head of household' name. Nancy, Ont ----- Original Message ----- From: Peg To: ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: [ME-CENSUS] 1860 / BAILEY / Cumberland Co. Could someone locate the family of John P. BAILEY and his wife Mary for me? John was born in Maine about 1825, son of Isaac and Bertha BAILEY. He was a Civil War veteran and enlisted from Gorham in 1861. He had a daughter named Ada, born about 1858. I believe he might be living in Cumberland County in 1860, possibly in Gorham (census page 129) or in Windham (census page 185). I'd appreciate some help with this veteran. Thank you. Peg ==== ME-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Could someone locate the family of John P. BAILEY and his wife Mary for me? John was born in Maine about 1825, son of Isaac and Bertha BAILEY. He was a Civil War veteran and enlisted from Gorham in 1861. He had a daughter named Ada, born about 1858. I believe he might be living in Cumberland County in 1860, possibly in Gorham (census page 129) or in Windham (census page 185). I'd appreciate some help with this veteran. Thank you. Peg

Oxford, Oxford County, Maine - 1860 - page 654 576/578 Francis D moorey 26 m work in factory -- 75 ME Nancy 21 f house work ME Ella 4 f ME Alice 2 f ME 578/580 Thomas Moorey 72 m farmer 900? 200 VT? Laura 61 f housekeeper VT Henry 23 m pedler -- 140 ME Judy & Gus AKA FoxHollow's Gentleman Gast'on CGC,NA,NAJ http://www.geocities.com/funnfur/Gus_the_TFT.html

Hi, Would someone be so kind as to look up: Frances D. Moorey - Oxford, Oxford County, Maine - 1860 - page 654 (A Thomas Moorey should also be listed on that page.) Thank you very much! -Kim-Stacey Kidder kskidder@tallysys.com

Dear Maine Census Listers, If someone could check birth registers for Hallowell, then perhaps my brick wall will come tumbling down. If I can try your patience and good offices one more time, I have a new theory about my great-grandfather and brickwall par excellence, John Albert Richards (25 Oct 1864 or 65, Maine-30 May 1934, Fresno). It's only a theory. It starts from the fact that a 16- year-old John Richards turns up in Fresno in the 1880 census claiming his birthplace as New Hampshire. None of the myriad number of John Richards in Maine or California fit here. This one piece of information, a 16-year-old John Richards from New Hampshire fits the age but not the birthplace of my John Albert Richards, unless... So here's the theory: Many John Richards in Maine have the strange historical habit of naming their son John Richards. So I said to myself, maybe there is some John Richards who got married in Maine in time to produce a son named John Richards in 1864 or 1865. So I checked the IGI. It turns out that one John Albion Richards did marry one Mary E. Allard on 7 December 1863 in Hallowell, Kennebec Co., Maine. The IGI has nothing about children from the marriage. There is some question about when John Albert Richards was born. His death certificate first gives 1864, but it was corrected by hand to 1865. A birth in October 1864, however, would seem to fit better the wedding date of John Albion Richards and Mary E. Allard. This is only a supposition, of course. Now, because of border disputes, Hallowell is sometimes in New Hampshire and sometimes in Maine. If it is listed in Maine, it is in Kennebec County, if it is listed in New Hampshire, it is Grafton County. The IGI often has double listings for both. The shifting Maine-New Hampshire border might explain why John Richards in Fresno in 1880 claimed that his birthplace (and that of his parents) was New Hampshire. I think there might be another reason why John Albion Richards is the father of John Albert Richards. "Albert" as a name looks like a variant of sorts on "Albion." (Another John Albion Richards turns up a little earlier in Kennebec Co. as well.) So: this theory explains: -contradictory data regarding a Maine/New Hampshire birthplace -the parallel between John Albion and John Albert We only need to check the facts... and here I need the help from some kind souls out there. I will predict that Mary E. Richards, nee Allard, died young, prompting the young John Albert to stowaway on the next clipper ship going out on the Kennebec River. Landing in a bunkhouse in Fresno... I'd be grateful for any help on this problem from some kind souls out there. Sincerely yours, Jeff Richards Muenster, Germany

Dear Judy, As a way of saying thanks for all your help and for all the help from the Maine census listers, a few limericks about my brick wall John Albert Richards (1865-1934). Have a wonderful holiday. Jeff Richards As birthplace John Richards claimed Maine -- to prove this is really a pain -- long vanished from sight, a clear case of flight he drives his descendants insane. A John Richards there was in Merced, who in Fresno was legally dead, a smithy by trade, this dashing young blade, is a mystery for the life that he led. John Albert from Maine as we know -- with that high-class send-off in Fresno -- sweet Gemma he left in the lurch -- they couldn't get married in church -- so his life long he had to lie low.

I searched 1810, 1820 and 1830 for Stoken, using soundex and the closest I came was in 1830 1830 STOCKIN JAMES York County ME 155 Limington Judy & Gus AKA FoxHollow's Gentleman Gast'on CGC,NA,NAJ http://www.geocities.com/funnfur/Gus_the_TFT.html