For those of you which have been researching Hessian Soldiers and their kin in Frederick and Washington Counites, Md. these URL might be of help I am also looking for a good German genealogist, does anyone know of one in Germany ? Gordon Crooks http://bobhudson.com/zeth/index.html http://www.feefhs.org/links/germany.html http://silvie.tripod.com/Hessian.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gordon Crooks [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 June 2013 13:03 To: Mary Symons Subject: Fw: Hessian soldiers Look at this Mary, there are actually 3 Smeltzer's, must be a fairly common German name. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: John F Smeltzer To: Gordon Crooks Cc: John F Smeltzer Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 7:43 PM Subject: Re: Hessian soldiers >From an earlier posting of mine in a previous search ..... "The two subjects we are trailing are: Johan Jakob Schmelzer and Georg Schmelzer with the Anspach - Bayreuth regiments ... this is what we located in one of the published diaries recorded at Yorktown: It reads: "17 October - The enemy fired an astonishing cannonade this morning. A flag of truce went to the enemy camp this morning. The Light Infantry was returned here from Gloucester at midday. A detail of Anbachers took detail at the Hornwork, under the command of Lt. Col. von Reitzenstein, during the absence of the Light Infantry. Private (Johan Simon) Kerr, Sr. of the Colonels company, while carrying out food to his comrades, was killed by a cannonball. Shortly thereafter a member of the Light Infantry has his head shot off. Private (Georg) Schmelzer, from the Major's company, deserted from a patrol. The enemy sent over a flag of truce. During the afternoon we sent one to the enemy which resulted in a cease fire ..... " Other records for the Anspach - Bayreuth troops indicate that Jakob Schmelzer deserted on October 15th. We do not know that they are related .... however, we assume as much since they came from the Leutershausen / Crailsheim area .... an area near Anspach. We also have a third Schmelzer who did not desert, served in another Hessian unit ... and was probably captured. He remained in America as well. His name was Johan Leonhardt Schmelzer. We may have made contact with a descendant line of Leonhardt's. Still trying to confirm. Any help / ideas / assistance would be much appreciated. John F. Smeltzer Colorado" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gordon Crooks" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 11:04:55 AM Subject: Re: Hessian soldiers What I also wanted to ask you if you knew the exact regiment your ancestor belonged to ? If you do we might be able to trace him that way as there are said to be records of this betwen the British Gov't at the time and the State where they originated. Since these are not British citizens they are not included in the British army records as such.. There are records of military personal as far back as the 1600's and in detail. Since King George of England was German born, it was probably from the area of Germany where he came from. Where did you go fishing ?? Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: Gordon Crooks Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Hessian soldiers On the fish those are low estimates ............. But yes ...... we did consume some malted beverages and slept a little. Fished from sunrise to shortly after sunset each day T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network ----- Reply message ----- From: "Gordon Crooks" <[email protected]> To: "John F Smeltzer" <[email protected]> Subject: Hessian soldiers Date: Mon, Jun 24, 2013 4:48 am Jihn Here is one of them and i am having trouble finding the second one, will let you know abot that one later. Question 387 fish = 77 fish per person, did you find time to eat, drink, and maybe snooze a little . GordonSent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:04 AM Subject: Hessian soldiers Dear Gordon, I talked with James and he said that he thought the money for the soldiers would have been paid at departmental level i.e. army to army and therefore there would be no names in the British Public Record Office. He thinks one would have to search on the German ancestry links. We are both under the weather at the moment with a rotten cold but will try to get to the place sometime over the summer and ask there. I assume you have suggested Wikipedia which is the new encyclopedia in Britain and is referred to all the time. e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans_in_the_American_Revolution and a link from that page http://www.history.army.mil/reference/revbib/germp.htm Mary Best wishes Mary