John, the publication is MARRIAGES LICENSES OF FREDERICK COUNTY, MARYLAND 1778-1810, Margaret E. Myers, Willow Bend 2001. I would have checked earlier just to be sure. They were compiled from the courthouse records and reflect the date couples took out marriage licenses - so they are like the index for Washington County. They may or may not be actual marriage dates. And of course, there is theoretically always the possibility someone took out a license and didn't marry. There is no reference church affiliation. I guess you would classify this as a civil record. Someone else who knows more about this might be able to chime in, but I believe that you had to have a license for any clergyman to marry you. I don't know if anyone has found a church ceremony and not a license - that would be interesting to know about. I don't know enough about the state borders, and the Mason Dixon line to know if there was territory that went back and forth between PA and MD. That might make a difference in where your record is. If you are searching Reformed Church you might check out the Shepherdstown, WV area. There is a Reformed Church and the Churchyard cemetery there was established in 1774 so there was a Reformed Church on site there fairly early. It is just across the Potomac from Washington County. I visited the site in March of 2004. I think this is along a fairly well traveled emigrant's route from VA to PA. It is also the route Robert E. Lee used to advance north during the Civil War. I think the church was still in use, but I couldn't find anyone around to talk with and ran out of time. Next trip back, I want to investigate it more. Across the street was a Lutheran cemetery also established in 1774 - I think it may have been a union church at one time. There is a Reformed Church archive online, and I've found them to be helpful although they don't always have the records that you are looking for. Lauren Brantner john112g3@aol.com wrote: >Lauren, > You wrote " I can tell you there are no HERR marriages in the Frederick County marriage licenses covering 1778-1810." As John Peter Herr and Susannah X must have been married ca. 1783 (he was in Yorktown, VA until Aug 1781 and they were in Hagerstown in 1784), there would be no need to search earlier dates in Frederick Co. if the index you have covered "all" Frederick Co. Reformed churches. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Lauren Brantner <lrbrant@concentric.net> >To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:58:15 -0700 >Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] Reformed Church Marriages ca. 1782-3 > > >John, there are earlier published records for Frederick County - I just happen to have that particular volume. I couldn't get the earlier one because it is out of print. Maybe someone has it and can do a lookup for you. > >Lauren > >john112g3@aol.com wrote: > > > >>Thank you very much, Lauren. I'm aware of the children of Johann Peter Herr and Susannah X in Hagerstown. Indeed, I've traced Johann Peter Herr back to Eschwege, Hesse where he was born in Aug 1758, the eldest son of Johann Conrad Herr and Elizabeth Völcke and grandson of Johann Peter Herr and Johann Bernard Völcke. His brother was Johann Bernard Herr! He also had three younger sisters in Eschwege. But I have not been able to identify his wife, Susannah as yet. >>John M. Rhodes > >-----Original Message----- >>Wrom: AALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJSNB >>To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:51:47 -0700 >>Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] Reformed Church Marriages ca. 1782-3 >> >> >>John, >I can tell you there are no HERR marriages in the Frederick County marriage licenses covering 1778-1810. There are 11 marriages in the Washington County Index covering 1799-1860. The earliest one is for John/Cath. BOREHOFF 8/28/1810. >Other grooms listed are Jos., Conrad, Abr., Hn., Emanuel, John, Jos., Sam., Jos., and Rudolph Jr.. So.....I might look in PA in some of the neighboring counties were I you. If this follows the German naming tradition I am familiar with, Johann would be a Saint's name and you would find the person going by Peter, so it wouldn't hurt to look for both. >Lauren Brantner > >john112g3@aol.com wrote: > > > >> >> >>>>I seek the marriage record of Johann Peter HERR, Hessian Soldier who deserted to the Americans in August 1781, and was held at Ft. Frederick until the war's end in 1783. He appears in Hagerstown with wife, Susannah X, and a child baptised in the German Reformed Ch. of Hagerstown in 1784. The couple had 10 more children recorded in the Hagerstown Church over the years. I cannot locate their marriage record in Hagerstown and think they might have been married in Frederick Co. MD. 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