Hi Lauren, Thanks for the additional information, it matches mine. Always pleased to obtain documented sources. Let me know which Stoner you are looking for. Mike On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Lauren Brantner <[email protected]> writes: > If you Google Nicholas Contrivance you will pop up a website > geisheimer.org which has early PA and MD info on the family > including a will in PA. A couple of land descriptions are also > there. > > If I recall correctly Stoner's are mainly Church of the Brethren and > there is a Stoner historian who used to monitor this list who wrote > a Stoner history. It has been a long time since I worked on Stoners > - unfortunately the one who married into my husband's family did not > show up in the history. I am hoping he still does and you will get > some info from him. I am thinking his name is Richard but I could be > wrong - you know how oldtimer's disease treats your mind. > > Lauren Brantner > > --- On Mon, 9/3/12, Gordon Crooks <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Gordon Crooks <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [MDWashin] Rattlesnake Springs - Stove Pipe > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Monday, September 3, 2012, 5:18 PM > > Mike: The Stoner family was huge and > > in both md. and Pa., in Greencastle > > there must be 20 some burials and they are also in other > > cemeteries, The > > Shockey's and Barkdoll's that I know both dead and living > > along are all in > > Franklin CVo., Pa. across the border from Washington County, > > Md., > > considering the short distance of less than 10 miles I would > > assume all were > > related. > > > > > > Gordon Crooks > > From: "J. Michael Hahn" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 4:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [MDWashin] Rattlesnake Springs - Stove Pipe > > > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > Some of my research includes the early Stoner family of > > what is now > > > Waynesboro, at the time Cumberland County. Sections > > of the Waynesboro > > > area before the Mason-Dixon Line, the land transactions > > were recorded in > > > Maryland. The land as far down as Fairfield also > > recorded in Maryland and > > > some of which was recorded before Frederick County, MD > > was established. > > > > > > I think the farm of Edward Nichols and later his > > sons John and William > > > Nichols ran from near Amsterdam to nearly Ringgold to > > the edge of Blue > > > Mountain. The deed of Edward would pre date > > the Harbaugh, Zentmyers, > > > Shockey, Hoover and Barkdoll holdings of this > > area. If I remember > > > correctly deeded 1739. > > > > > > I was saying about the East Branch of the Antietam. The > > reference is the > > > East Branch of the "Little Antietam". I take that > > to mean it flows into > > > the East Branch. The location of the Harbaugh farm > > makes reference to a > > > tract of land called "Sarah's Delight" situated on Cow > > Run (an affluent > > > of the Antietam) This branch leaves the Blue Mountain > > at Glen Aften > > > Springs at Pen-Mar Park. I think Glen Aften Springs is > > Rattlesnake > > > Springs. > > > > > > I will need to look over my oldest research material. > > The land of John > > > and William Nichols was inherited from his father > > Edward. While I am > > > related to the Nichols family my research on the > > location of the estate > > > has been limited. > > > > > > Thats something about Robert Crook. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 19:02:01 -0400 "Gordon Crooks" > > > <[email protected]> > > writes: > > >> Mike: This is getting interesting, first of all I > > know living > > >> Shockey's > > >> several of them in fact and last but not least is > > Robert Crooks who > > >> was my > > >> 5th removed grandfather and a lawyer which is > > probably why his name > > >> is on > > >> the document. All of the Shockey's that I know are > > in Pennsylvania. > > >> I also > > >> see your mention of the East branch of Antietam > > Creek and that is > > >> located at > > >> the eastern outskirts of Waynesboro. I also > > have Heck's in my line, > > >> but not > > >> this family who were there early on, mine didn't > > come until the mid > > >> 1800's. > > >> i also recognize some of the other names. > > >> > > >> > > > > Gordon Crooks, the 8th > > >> generation > > >> From: "J. Michael Hahn" <[email protected]> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 5:46 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [MDWashin] Rattlesnake Springs - Stove > > Pipe > > >> > > >> > > >> > Patty, > > >> > Rattlesnake Spring and Stove Pipe are more > > locations of property > > >> than > > >> > they are actual places. The Rattlesnake Spring > > is in fact the > > >> present day > > >> > East Branch of the Little Antietam Creek, > > which flows from the > > >> mountain > > >> > at Edgemont in Washington County, MD. just > > along side the > > >> Mason-Dixon > > >> > Line into Franklin County, PA. Trying to > > locate a map for you. I > > >> take it > > >> > you are trying to locate the "Nichol's > > Contrivance" Large tract > > >> of > > >> > property that is located in both MD and PA. > > The area of Ringgold, > > >> > Washington County MD and Rouzerville, Franklin > > County, PA. > > >> > > > >> > Sending the will of Jacob Shockey, who married > > Anna Freed. > > >> > > > >> > Jacob Shockey will (1803),, Chambersburg Court > > House, > > >> Chambersburg, > > >> > Washington Twp. Franklin county, PA. > > >> > > > >> > Washington Twp. Wife Anna to be maintained by > > sons Isaac and > > >> Christian; > > >> > sons Isaac & Christian the plantation on > > which I now live and all > > >> my land > > >> > I own in the Co. of Washington MD excepting 50 > > acres joining Balls > > >> Hill, > > >> > Tise Hill and John Funk's lines, also 20 acres > > called in Patent > > >> the Land > > >> > of Nob, land in PA where Samuel Bigler now > > lives to be sold, dau > > >> Susanna > > >> > Bigler w/o Samuel 100#, son Jacob 47#, dau > > magdalena w/o Balser > > >> Mowan > > >> > 196#, dau Barbara w/o Peter Heck 174#, dau > > Anna w/o George Heck > > >> 100#, dau > > >> > Eve w/o John nicholas 184# Caveat entered by > > Samuel Bagle and > > >> peter Heck > > >> > against the probate of will, James Brotherton, > > Esq atty for the > > >> executors > > >> > and James Orbison Esq att for the cavetors. Wm > > Minor sworn and > > >> said he > > >> > was present when testator made his mark and > > that he was of sound > > >> mind. > > >> > Deceased said his family had always been > > disputing and he was > > >> afraid it > > >> > would be so after his death. jacob Weldy, Wm > > Nichols, Philip Reed, > > >> Samuel > > >> > Royer and Robert Crooks testified as to the > > sanity of the > > >> deceased. > > >> > Mike > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 12:54:46 -0400 (EDT) > > "MOREAU, PETER" > > >> > <[email protected]> > > writes: > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ---- Original message ---- > > >> >> >Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:13:32 -0400 > > >> >> >From: Pat Thompson <[email protected]> > > >> >> >Subject: [MDWashin] Rattlesnake > > Springs - Stove Pipe > > >> >> >To: [email protected] > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Excerpt from obituary for George > > Washington Hahn, noted on > > >> >> Find-A-Grave, mentions land belonging to > > George's grandfather > > >> >> William Nichols, called "Nicholas > > Contrivance, resurveyed in > > >> >> 1964. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >This place called Rattlesnake Springs > > is described in > > >> >> "Colonial Records of the Upper Potomac > > Vol. 2 by William H. > > >> >> Rice, 2012" > > >> >> > > > >> >> >In this book it says: "Also on that > > day (23 Oct 1739) Dent > > >> >> survey 75 acres called "Nicholls > > Contrivance" for Edward > > >> >> Nicholls near Rattlesnake Spring about two > > miles from where > > >> >> NEALS FRIEND lived between Antietam Creek > > and the > > >> >> Conococheague (Ibid., Patented Certificate > > #1563) > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Since Neals (Nicholas) Friend was my > > 6th great grandfather I > > >> >> am interested in pinpointing this > > location. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Does Rattlesnake Spring appear on any > > modern maps? 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