Thank you, Lauren. Agnes

I am searching for a record of the marriage of Isaac HARDEN/HARDIN to Mary and/or Catherine NEWMYER, (or any other soundex spelling) in 1787. I have been told it took place in Allegany County but since that county did not exist until 1789 thought perhaps the marriage took place in Washington County from which Allegany was formed. Thanks for any assistance anyone can give me. Agnes Donnelly Penn Laird, VA

Agnes, Neither are listed in Morrow and Morrow's index to marriages which runs from 1799 - 1860. The marriage records from 1776- 1798 were destroyed in a courthouse fire according to Morrow and Morrow so you might have to try church records. Hopefully those with church record resources on the list will give you a lookup in what they have. Lauren Brantner ADonn4life@aol.com wrote: >I am searching for a record of the marriage of Isaac HARDEN/HARDIN to Mary >and/or Catherine NEWMYER, (or any other soundex spelling) in 1787. I have been >told it took place in Allegany County but since that county did not exist >until 1789 thought perhaps the marriage took place in Washington County from which >Allegany was formed. > >Thanks for any assistance anyone can give me. > >Agnes Donnelly >Penn Laird, VA > > >==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >The OFFICIAL website for this list is: >http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/washington/ > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >. > > >

>How about finding 2 of your 4th great grandfathers as brothers on your Paternal line and 2 of your 3rd great grandparents as siblings, 2 female and one male, on your Maternal line? It's no wonder I'm not normal......LOL Of course all this can be "fixed" by a bit of "wishful linking" in FTM. Just "skip" the offending generation like many of the old genealogies do! ;-) I'm also running into "wishful marriage dates". They are useful in transforming 6 month pregnancies into 18 month pregnancies...or something like that. John Rhodes

I agree.... I have thoroughly enjoyed all these inter-marriages.... it makes me a little scared to try and figure mine out now. I know the Flora's and Stouffers married each other alot. I am only starting those lines. There has been much research done on them and I like to go back and look for more tidbits.... Thanks for all your comments... they make my day! Eileen Gonzales gordon crooks wrote: > John: That was priceless! I have a similar problem. Two cousins in the late > 1700's tried to populate the entire USA, they had 22 children between them - > Top that! > > Gordon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <John112G3@aol.com> > To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:29 AM > Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married > > > My grandfather, a two-time widower, next married the widowed mother of his > son-in-law. My cousins are still trying to figure our what kind of cousins > their siblings are. And all are sorry that they cannot blame "the other > side of the family" for their feeblemindness. <sigh> > > John Rhodes > > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing > lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, > start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > If you have a Family Genealogy Website with Washington County connections, > please send the url to FamilyHart at FamilyHart@aol.com. We will place > a link on the Washington County Website. Thanks! > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

Donna: Sometimes you don't want to go there. I have a cousin 4 times removed who sent me two family branches, family trees, she also mentioned that her husband was a 9th cousin to me. Well I got intruged by this and spent considerable time figuring it all out etc. Guess what I found out. That the husband and wife were also cousins. She didn't speak to me for a while and I was asked not to mention this to other family members! Gordon Crooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Love" <wlove@charter.net> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married > It also makes it interesting if you're using Family Tree Maker and run a > relationship list. Your children turn out to also be your nieces and > nephews. :) > > God Bless and Keep You and Yours, > Donna Love > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KesslerWV@aol.com> > To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:25 PM > Subject: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married > > > > Fran > > How about finding 2 of your 4th great grandfathers as brothers on your > > Paternal line and 2 of your 3rd great grandparents as siblings, 2 female > and one > > male, on your Maternal line? It's no wonder I'm not normal......LOL It > wasn't > > that unusual back then especially in small isolated communities. > > Karen > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lee [mailto:leeg@erols.com] > > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:18 AM > > To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married > > > > > > At 03:32 PM 8/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: > > >Hello everyone: > > > > > >Please forgive my intrusion. I only seek to ask a question. I know that > > >many of you have found family members inter-married several times over, > > >especially in the 1700's and early 1800's. > > > > > >I wonder if I could get your help and/or your opinion...how likely do you > > >feel it would be to find that 2 of your 6th great-grandfathers were > > >brothers? I have received documentation and other information from > > >various family members, and records, and I have checked and re-checked. > I > > >thought I had already come across just about every inter-family type of > > >connection. > > > > > >Has anyone encountered this situation? > > > > > >Thank you for your time and assistance. > > > > > >Fran >> > > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > If you have a Family Genealogy Website with Washington County connections, > > please send the url to FamilyHart at FamilyHart@aol.com. We will place > > a link on the Washington County Website. Thanks! > > > > ============================== > > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/washington/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

John: That was priceless! I have a similar problem. Two cousins in the late 1700's tried to populate the entire USA, they had 22 children between them - Top that! Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: <John112G3@aol.com> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married > My grandfather, a two-time widower, next married the widowed mother of his son-in-law. My cousins are still trying to figure our what kind of cousins their siblings are. And all are sorry that they cannot blame "the other side of the family" for their feeblemindness. <sigh> > John Rhodes > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

My grandfather, a two-time widower, next married the widowed mother of his son-in-law. My cousins are still trying to figure our what kind of cousins their siblings are. And all are sorry that they cannot blame "the other side of the family" for their feeblemindness. <sigh> John Rhodes

Good point, but it was an ill attempt at humor :) God Bless and Keep You and Yours, Donna Love ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@BCPL.net> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married > Donna: Sometimes you don't want to go there. I have a cousin 4 times removed > who sent me two family branches, family trees, she also mentioned that her > husband was a 9th cousin to me. Well I got intruged by this and spent > considerable time figuring it all out etc. Guess what I found out. That the > husband and wife were also cousins. She didn't speak to me for a while and I > was asked not to mention this to other family members! > > Gordon Crooks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Love" <wlove@charter.net> > To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:17 AM > Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married > > > > It also makes it interesting if you're using Family Tree Maker and run a > > relationship list. Your children turn out to also be your nieces and > > nephews. :) > > > > God Bless and Keep You and Yours, > > Donna Love > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <KesslerWV@aol.com> > > To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:25 PM > > Subject: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married > > > > > > > Fran > > > How about finding 2 of your 4th great grandfathers as brothers on your > > > Paternal line and 2 of your 3rd great grandparents as siblings, 2 female > > and one > > > male, on your Maternal line? It's no wonder I'm not normal......LOL It > > wasn't > > > that unusual back then especially in small isolated communities. > > > Karen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Lee [mailto:leeg@erols.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:18 AM > > > To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married > > > > > > > > > At 03:32 PM 8/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Hello everyone: > > > > > > > >Please forgive my intrusion. I only seek to ask a question. I know > that > > > >many of you have found family members inter-married several times over, > > > >especially in the 1700's and early 1800's. > > > > > > > >I wonder if I could get your help and/or your opinion...how likely do > you > > > >feel it would be to find that 2 of your 6th great-grandfathers were > > > >brothers? I have received documentation and other information from > > > >various family members, and records, and I have checked and re-checked. > > I > > > >thought I had already come across just about every inter-family type of > > > >connection. > > > > > > > >Has anyone encountered this situation? > > > > > > > >Thank you for your time and assistance. > > > > > > > >Fran >> > > > > > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > > If you have a Family Genealogy Website with Washington County > connections, > > > please send the url to FamilyHart at FamilyHart@aol.com. We will place > > > a link on the Washington County Website. Thanks! > > > > > > ============================== > > > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > > > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/washington/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > If you have a Family Genealogy Website with Washington County connections, > please send the url to FamilyHart at FamilyHart@aol.com. We will place > a link on the Washington County Website. Thanks! > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Fran How about finding 2 of your 4th great grandfathers as brothers on your Paternal line and 2 of your 3rd great grandparents as siblings, 2 female and one male, on your Maternal line? It's no wonder I'm not normal......LOL It wasn't that unusual back then especially in small isolated communities. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Lee [mailto:leeg@erols.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:18 AM To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married At 03:32 PM 8/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Hello everyone: > >Please forgive my intrusion. I only seek to ask a question. I know that >many of you have found family members inter-married several times over, >especially in the 1700's and early 1800's. > >I wonder if I could get your help and/or your opinion...how likely do you >feel it would be to find that 2 of your 6th great-grandfathers were >brothers? I have received documentation and other information from >various family members, and records, and I have checked and re-checked. I >thought I had already come across just about every inter-family type of >connection. > >Has anyone encountered this situation? > >Thank you for your time and assistance. > >Fran >>

I have two references to lots in Hagerstown and wonder if anyone in the area could look up details of the transfers. Thank you. John M. Rhodes Peter Herr, tailor, bought lot no. 198 in Elizabeth Town (Hagerstown) 11 Mar 1789. (WCDB F:157) 1825: John Peter Herr and wife, Susanna, of Fairfield Co., OH sold 1/2 of lot no. 82 in Hagerstown (WCDB HH:670). Who owned the other 1/2? Who purchased the lot?

It also makes it interesting if you're using Family Tree Maker and run a relationship list. Your children turn out to also be your nieces and nephews. :) God Bless and Keep You and Yours, Donna Love ----- Original Message ----- From: <KesslerWV@aol.com> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:25 PM Subject: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married > Fran > How about finding 2 of your 4th great grandfathers as brothers on your > Paternal line and 2 of your 3rd great grandparents as siblings, 2 female and one > male, on your Maternal line? It's no wonder I'm not normal......LOL It wasn't > that unusual back then especially in small isolated communities. > Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lee [mailto:leeg@erols.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:18 AM > To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married > > > At 03:32 PM 8/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello everyone: > > > >Please forgive my intrusion. I only seek to ask a question. I know that > >many of you have found family members inter-married several times over, > >especially in the 1700's and early 1800's. > > > >I wonder if I could get your help and/or your opinion...how likely do you > >feel it would be to find that 2 of your 6th great-grandfathers were > >brothers? I have received documentation and other information from > >various family members, and records, and I have checked and re-checked. I > >thought I had already come across just about every inter-family type of > >connection. > > > >Has anyone encountered this situation? > > > >Thank you for your time and assistance. > > > >Fran >> > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > If you have a Family Genealogy Website with Washington County connections, > please send the url to FamilyHart at FamilyHart@aol.com. We will place > a link on the Washington County Website. Thanks! > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ >

Thank you very much for the information. Rebecca

Thank you very much for the information. Rebecca

Hi Patsy, As long as you are going in that direction, go to Middletown, Md. where the Stottlemyer family really started out in Md. At the time they went there, it was still Frederick Co. In 1760 David Stottlemyer, bought land from a man whose last name was Fink. I don't know if Leah Spade of Smithsburg is still alive, but she kept records in her home of many of the first settlers to that section of Md. I am a direct decendent of Old David Stottlemyer. My line is Old David, Devault, Devault, Robert Fulton Stottlemyer, Lavina Virginia, Amanda Valetta Wilkinson Doyle, John Andrew Doyle and me Rosalie (Doyle) Siri. Glad to have you join us. Rosie in Indiana __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Seeking information on the ancestry and siblings of James Ford, the identity of the surname of Sarah, his wife, family letters, documentation on this family: James Ford born about 1749 in either Baltimore or Prince Georges Co, Maryland, the son of Thomas Ford and possibly Ann. James Ford married Sarah about 1770 and was of Frederick Co, Maryland at that time. The will of James Ford was written 24 Sep 1800 and probated 19 Sep 1801 in Washington Co, Maryland. Sarah Ford, wife of James Ford died after 21 June 1816 probably in Washington Co, Md. Children of this couple were: Freelove Ford born about 1771 in Frederick Co, Md. Freelove Ford married John Jack about 1795 in Washington Co, Md. John and Freelove Ford Jack were parents of two sons: Jeremiah Jack and John Jack. Jeremiah was born about 1796 and John was born about 1798 in Washington Co, Md. Did Jeremiah Jack move to Washington Co, Tn where there is a Jeremiah Jack on the records there? Isabel Ford born about 1773 in Frederick Co., Md. Isabel Ford married Henry Otto before Sep 1800 in Washington Co, Md. It appears this couple lived at Fort Frederick, Washington Co, Md for part of their marriage. Esther Ford born about 1775 in Frederick Co, Maryland. Esther married Daniel Harlan about 1792 in Washington Co, Md. This couple had a son, Jehu Harlan. The family moved to Ashland Co., Ohio. James Ford born about 1778 in Washington Co, Md and died Dec 1806 in Washington Co, Md. He had married Christena Renner 12 May 1806 in Washington Co, Md. No issue. Thomas Ford born 1790 and died Dec 1809 in Washington Co Md. Thomas did not marry. Hannah Ford born 1782 in Washington Co, Md and married Henry Houck before Sep 1800 in Washington Co, Md. This couple lived in Lower Makefield twp, Beaver Co, Pa apparently near William Blackmore (married to Sarah Ford, a sibling of Hannah) Joseph Ford born 1784 in Washington Co, Md. Mary Ford born 1786 in Washington Co, Md. She married Ellis Ellis about 1800 to 1806 in Berkeley Co., Va. Sarah Ford born 1788 in Washington Co, Md. She married William Blackmore 31 July 1802 in Washington Co, Md. This couple later lived in Second Moon, Beaver Co, Pa. (See also Hannah Ford Houck above) Henry Ford born 1790 in Washington Co, Md. Ann Ford born 1792 in Washington Co, Md; Her probate was 18 May 1810 in Washington Co, Md. (unmarried) Abigail Ford born 1794 in Washington Co, Md. Her probate was also 18 May 1810 in Washington Co., Md. (unmarried) ------ I can document the above information if requested. Sincere thanks for any additional information on this or other Foard/Ford families in colonial Maryland. ljm ********************************* Get your free E-Mail and Homepage Go to http://www.networld.com *********************************

I think it is common to find family marriages in the early 1800's to keep the land in the family. tom -----Original Message----- From: Lee [mailto:leeg@erols.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:18 AM To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married At 03:32 PM 8/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Hello everyone: > >Please forgive my intrusion. I only seek to ask a question. I know that >many of you have found family members inter-married several times over, >especially in the 1700's and early 1800's. > >I wonder if I could get your help and/or your opinion...how likely do you >feel it would be to find that 2 of your 6th great-grandfathers were >brothers? I have received documentation and other information from >various family members, and records, and I have checked and re-checked. I >thought I had already come across just about every inter-family type of >connection. > >Has anyone encountered this situation? > >Thank you for your time and assistance. > >Fran Fran, I once helped a lady tracing some ancestry from 1800 back to 1650, she one ancestor living at about 1800 who had 7 paths in the tree back to a common ancestor (who was Edward Dorsey of VA and Providence (Anne Arundel Co.) MD who drowned when his boat sank off Kent island in 1659). There had been just a lot of first and second cousin marriages among the prominent families of the area that were her ancestors. it seems it was the norm in the 1600s and 1700s . Lee ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== Are your ancestors Pennsylvania Dutch?? Check out the Pennsylvania Dutch Family History site at: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

Fran, I can trace my mother's and my father's family back to JOSEPH LOOMIS 1590-1658 a woolen-draper of Braintree, County Essex, England. One of JOSEPH LOOMIS's sons JOSEPH LOOMIS is my 9th grandfather on my father's side and JOHN LOOMIS his brother is my 11th grandfather on my mother's side. My parents met during W.W.II in 1942 in California. My mother's family was in California from Ripley, Chautuaqua County, New York where the LOOMIS family was plentiful. My father's family was from a farm in Illinois, after many years of research after finding my mother's LOOMIS connection I found that my Dad's family went back to Bradford County, PA where Daniel LOOMIS was an early well known pioneer in the 1700s which led me to a book I had owned for years which listed all I ever needed to know from that point on. I was amazed at my findings, all proven with all the documentation. Hope this helps answer your question. Chocy

At 03:32 PM 8/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Hello everyone: > >Please forgive my intrusion. I only seek to ask a question. I know that >many of you have found family members inter-married several times over, >especially in the 1700's and early 1800's. > >I wonder if I could get your help and/or your opinion...how likely do you >feel it would be to find that 2 of your 6th great-grandfathers were >brothers? I have received documentation and other information from >various family members, and records, and I have checked and re-checked. I >thought I had already come across just about every inter-family type of >connection. > >Has anyone encountered this situation? > >Thank you for your time and assistance. > >Fran Fran, I once helped a lady tracing some ancestry from 1800 back to 1650, she one ancestor living at about 1800 who had 7 paths in the tree back to a common ancestor (who was Edward Dorsey of VA and Providence (Anne Arundel Co.) MD who drowned when his boat sank off Kent island in 1659). There had been just a lot of first and second cousin marriages among the prominent families of the area that were her ancestors. it seems it was the norm in the 1600s and 1700s . Lee

My two ELAM lines go back to the same early ancestor in America. Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Branches & Lil' Twigs" <epaurora@visuallink.com> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 2:32 PM Subject: [MDWASHIN] family members inter-married > Hello everyone: > > Please forgive my intrusion. I only seek to ask a question. I know that many of you have found family members inter-married several times over, especially in the 1700's and early 1800's. > > I wonder if I could get your help and/or your opinion...how likely do you feel it would be to find that 2 of your 6th great-grandfathers were brothers? I have received documentation and other information from various family members, and records, and I have checked and re-checked. I thought I had already come across just about every inter-family type of connection. > > Has anyone encountered this situation? > > Thank you for your time and assistance. > > Fran > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Can't find it in Washington County...Try Frederick County at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/frederick/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >