3) I live in Ohio as did the  individual I am trying to identify.  Though I have a date of death  there was no obituary.  I would rather not pay $15.00 for a certified  death certificate but that is all Ohio offers.  Does anyone know of any  other means of tracking this without paying for the certificate? Thank  you, Teresa Farrow If town of death not too large, check funeral homes

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Richard, there is an entry in the marriage index, but I can't spot anything else in my sources. Have you tried looking with a K instead of a C on the last name? Lauren Brantner richard van wagenen wrote: >Looking for information on Leighman CAPERER. Located >Leighman on Ancestry.com under Maryland Marriages, but >can locate him on any census records. > >Leighman married Mrs Margaret WELSH in 1820. > >===== > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >Many Washington County families are online at the FamilyHart Database. The url is: >http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >. > > >

Dear Ms. Farrow: Never assume. Just because the wife is not on the SS Index does not mean she is still alive. She may have received the Benifits in Florida. She may have remarried and died under a different name. Never say never. I would go to Rootsweb.Look in both the County that the person died and the County that the benefit was last received. See if there are any Volunteers to do lookups. Ask their opinion. Ask for an Obit, Phone Book check or maybe the Death Cert can be viewed without paying for it. Florida is only $5. I do not know the rules of AARP. However they may be able to forward a letter to you living person if she is a Member. They will not tell you one way or the other if she belongs. Also try Genealogy Kindness. They have really Great Volunteers. Kathi In Oregon

Looking for any info on Hagen/Hagen families in this area during the 1700s. Especially interested in any connections to Hyatt/Hiatt/Hiett/Heyett and McIntire/McIntyre/McEntire/McEntyre/McIngtier families. Many Thanks, Janet Currie

In a message dated 2/8/2005 8:19:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, tkfarrowwelker@wowway.com writes: 1) Through the SS death index I have identified an individual having died in ohio in 1982. It notes the last benefits were paid in Mt. Dora Florida. Does this mean his wife moved to Florida and is now collecting benefits? 2) I cannot locate his wife including in the SS death index. Can I assume she is living since she is not in the index? 3) I live in Ohio as did the individual I am trying to identify. Though I have a date of death there was no obituary. I would rather not pay $15.00 for a certified death certificate but that is all Ohio offers. Does anyone know of any other means of tracking this without paying for the certificate? Thank you, Teresa Farrow --- Teresa- You can't assume much from the last benefit location. I'd suggest reading the RootsWeb Guide lesson on SSDI on this very topic which includes the following notation about Florida addresses: "Consider the possibility that a person might have had two official residences also; many "snowbirds" do." See: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson10.htm You might try contacting Social Security--they won't give you someone's address but they WILL forward a letter for you if they have a current address for someone and you send a request to them to forward the letter to the person. Of course, if the person is no longer living, they can't forward the message for you. Just because you haven't found the person in the SSDI is no guarantee that they are still living--the SSDI is not all-inclusive. Again, for more information read the above guide lesson. Joan

Looking for information on Leighman CAPERER. Located Leighman on Ancestry.com under Maryland Marriages, but can locate him on any census records. Leighman married Mrs Margaret WELSH in 1820. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Mike, Thanks for the link. John -----Original Message----- From: Mike Rohrer [mailto:mrohrer@usa.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:56 PM To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [MDWASHIN] Hogmire House John, Sorry, I don't know, but here's another link to a website about the house: http://www.marylandhistoricaltrust.net/nr/NRDetail.asp?HDID=614&FROM=NRMapWA .html What is says there is "Location: Spielman Road (MD 63), Fairplay, Washington County." Mike > Mike, > Yes, it might be. My contact from Michigan mentions a Spielman was involved > somehow. Do you have a idea how far N on Rt 63 this farm is? > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Rohrer [mailto:mrohrer@usa.com] > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 4:20 PM > To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] Hogmire House > > > John, > > Is this the one you're looking for? > > "Hogmire-Berryman Farm (added 1980 - District - #80001842) > N of Spielman off MD 63, Spielman" > > Link: > http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/MD/Washington/state.html > > Mike > > > > > I am looking for the house of Conrad Hogmire, located in Tilghmanton, Md. > > According to a source, it is still standing today. I believe it is also > > known as the "Stonehenge" house and is located down a lane out of site > from > > the highway that connects Hagerstown to Sharpsburg. > > > > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and > > mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb > > Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/washington/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Many Washington County families are online at the FamilyHart > Database. The url is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== NO FLAMING ALLOWED HERE! Only friendly chat allowed...Thanks! ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I would like to ask the list for their expertise on this subject (I am trying to locate living children); 1) Through the SS death index I have identified an individual having died in ohio in 1982. It notes the last benefits were paid in Mt. Dora Florida. Does this mean his wife moved to Florida and is now collecting benefits? 2) I cannot locate his wife including in the SS death index. Can I assume she is living since she is not in the index? 3) I live in Ohio as did the individual I am trying to identify. Though I have a date of death there was no obituary. I would rather not pay $15.00 for a certified death certificate but that is all Ohio offers. Does anyone know of any other means of tracking this without paying for the certificate? Thank you, Teresa Farrow -- WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com)

Mary Lou, Thank you for the kind reply. Yes, I would love to have any pictures you might have of the house. I am actually acting as an intermediary for a friend in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I am a ninth generation descendent of Andrew Rench. I would like to inquire as to your link with Conrad and Andrew. I await your response. John Rentch -----Original Message----- From: Bob & Mary Lou Rowe [mailto:rerowe@cox.net] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:38 PM To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] Hogmire House John, we have visited the Hogmire-Spielman house. It was the home of Jonas Hogmire, given to him I believe from his father-in-law Andrew Rentch. We have photos of this farm if you are interested. We can e-mail them to you. As for Conrad's home, it was originally called the Old Fox Deceived. We have photos of what it looked like a few years ago. Unfortunately it was torn down to make room for the now Bob Evans Restaurant. The photos and information on this we got from Washington County Historical Society last summer. I am a descendent of Conrad Hogmire, as well as Andrew Rentch. Mary Lou Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: <jkrentch@comcast.net> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: [MDWASHIN] Hogmire House >I am looking for the house of Conrad Hogmire, located in Tilghmanton, Md. > According to a source, it is still standing today. I believe it is also > known as the "Stonehenge" house and is located down a lane out of site > from > the highway that connects Hagerstown to Sharpsburg. > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing > lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To > subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== The OFFICIAL website for this list is: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/washington/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I just ran into a muster notice for the Maryland 10th Regiment of Militia in 1803 - posted by Jonas Hogmire, Lt. Col. So you may be looking at some military records for him. Lauren Brantner jkrentch@comcast.net wrote: >I am looking for the house of Conrad Hogmire, located in Tilghmanton, Md. >According to a source, it is still standing today. I believe it is also >known as the "Stonehenge" house and is located down a lane out of site from >the highway that connects Hagerstown to Sharpsburg. > > > >==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >. > > >

Richard, there is a general index to probate records 1777-1850 [FHL mf 14644] a microfilm you can bring in to any LDS Church Family History Center. There are some records that are at Maryland State Archives and some that are in the Washington County Courthouse. There are different kinds of probate records - wills, administration bonds, inventories of estates, administration accounts, estate distributions, orphans court proceedings as well as some other minor ones. The wills are in volumes by dates - for example Volumes A--B runs from 1777-1817 and so on and they are on microfilm. Someone who is more familiar with Maryland State Archives will tell you how to research there. The orphan's court proceedings are in a card index (#84) which covers the period 1806-1964 at MSA. Lauren Brantner richard van wagenen wrote: >Where does one write to for obtaining copies of >Estates Records. > >===== > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >Don't be afraid to speak up and ask questions! >There are no stupid questions here. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >. > > >

John, we have visited the Hogmire-Spielman house. It was the home of Jonas Hogmire, given to him I believe from his father-in-law Andrew Rentch. We have photos of this farm if you are interested. We can e-mail them to you. As for Conrad's home, it was originally called the Old Fox Deceived. We have photos of what it looked like a few years ago. Unfortunately it was torn down to make room for the now Bob Evans Restaurant. The photos and information on this we got from Washington County Historical Society last summer. I am a descendent of Conrad Hogmire, as well as Andrew Rentch. Mary Lou Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: <jkrentch@comcast.net> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: [MDWASHIN] Hogmire House >I am looking for the house of Conrad Hogmire, located in Tilghmanton, Md. > According to a source, it is still standing today. I believe it is also > known as the "Stonehenge" house and is located down a lane out of site > from > the highway that connects Hagerstown to Sharpsburg. > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing > lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To > subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Mike, Yes, it might be. My contact from Michigan mentions a Spielman was involved somehow. Do you have a idea how far N on Rt 63 this farm is? John -----Original Message----- From: Mike Rohrer [mailto:mrohrer@usa.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 4:20 PM To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] Hogmire House John, Is this the one you're looking for? "Hogmire-Berryman Farm (added 1980 - District - #80001842) N of Spielman off MD 63, Spielman" Link: http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/MD/Washington/state.html Mike > > I am looking for the house of Conrad Hogmire, located in Tilghmanton, Md. > According to a source, it is still standing today. I believe it is also > known as the "Stonehenge" house and is located down a lane out of site from > the highway that connects Hagerstown to Sharpsburg. > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and > mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb > Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== The OFFICIAL website for this list is: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/washington/ ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

John, Sorry, I don't know, but here's another link to a website about the house: http://www.marylandhistoricaltrust.net/nr/NRDetail.asp?HDID=614&FROM=NRMapWA.html What is says there is "Location: Spielman Road (MD 63), Fairplay, Washington County." Mike > Mike, > Yes, it might be. My contact from Michigan mentions a Spielman was involved > somehow. Do you have a idea how far N on Rt 63 this farm is? > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Rohrer [mailto:mrohrer@usa.com] > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 4:20 PM > To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] Hogmire House > > > John, > > Is this the one you're looking for? > > "Hogmire-Berryman Farm (added 1980 - District - #80001842) > N of Spielman off MD 63, Spielman" > > Link: > http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/MD/Washington/state.html > > Mike > > > > > I am looking for the house of Conrad Hogmire, located in Tilghmanton, Md. > > According to a source, it is still standing today. I believe it is also > > known as the "Stonehenge" house and is located down a lane out of site > from > > the highway that connects Hagerstown to Sharpsburg. > > > > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and > > mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb > > Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/washington/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Many Washington County families are online at the FamilyHart > Database. The url is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Richard/Lauren, The Maryland Chancery Court proceedings are also sources for estate settlement information, particularly in cases where there was legal wrangling. In fact, here's a link to an interesting sample of proceedings that includes a case involving HOGMIRE and RENTCH. http://midmdroots.freewebspace.com/frederick/MdChancery.htm Go there and in your browser do an EDIT -- Find -- then type in RENTCH. Mike > > Richard, there is a general index to probate records 1777-1850 [FHL > mf 14644] a microfilm you can bring in to any LDS Church Family > History Center. There are some records that are at Maryland State > Archives and some that are in the Washington County Courthouse. > There are different kinds of probate records - wills, > administration bonds, inventories of estates, administration > accounts, estate distributions, orphans court proceedings as well > as some other minor ones. The wills are in volumes by dates - for > example Volumes A--B runs from 1777-1817 and so on and they are on > microfilm. Someone who is more familiar with Maryland State > Archives will tell you how to research there. The orphan's court > proceedings are in a card index (#84) which covers the period > 1806-1964 at MSA. Lauren Brantner > > richard van wagenen wrote: > > > Where does one write to for obtaining copies of > > Estates Records. > > > > ===== > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > > Don't be afraid to speak up and ask questions! > > There are no stupid questions here. > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Can't find it in Washington County...Try Frederick County at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/frederick/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and > friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

I am looking for the house of Conrad Hogmire, located in Tilghmanton, Md. According to a source, it is still standing today. I believe it is also known as the "Stonehenge" house and is located down a lane out of site from the highway that connects Hagerstown to Sharpsburg.

Dear Cindy: Yes, there is, however it comes up on the US Genealogy Web site. Kathi

I am researching the family of James WEST. The family came to to Washington Co, MD from PA. William and his sister Eliza stayed in Washington Co while the rest of the family moved to Ogle Co, IL and is on the 1850 census. James and Margaret both died in Ogle Co. James Sr died 1852 and left a will stating he was of Pine Creek, Ogle Co, IL. The will listed the following children; oldest son Thomas West; William West, Eliza Huffmaster, May West and James J West. After their father's death, Thomas and James moved on to Seward co, NE. Would like to exchange information on this family. Need to find its origin in PA. Any information would be appreciated Theresa Hixon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

In a message dated 2/7/2005 12:50:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, OhSuzan419@aol.com writes: While on RootsWeb yesterday, I saw a notice that the server which handles their email and all the boards was down, and would probably be down for about two days. Susan Susan- The mail hub being down did stop all list mail from flowing but had no effect at all on the message boards. The boards were up and running all the time. Joan