Roger, there is a marriage between John SPEILMAN/Polly SEIGLER 4/25/1820. If I recall correctly, Polly is a nickname for Mary. Someone can correct me if I am not remembering accurately. The marriage index says 10/1/1857 for Ezra and Elizabeth GEIGIS. This family is in one of the Bibles in the Washington County Free Library: SIGLER, Mary b. 20 FEb. 1794 d. 1874 is in the John Speilman/Spealman family bible. There are 3 1/4 pages (8 1/2 x 11 single spaced) of entries so it is too large to keyboard in. Do you want me to scan it and send it to you? It appears that some of them went to Carroll County IL. - they are buried in Chadwick Cemetery in that county. Lauren RogerCubs@aol.com wrote: >Does anyone have a connection to this family? > >Descendants of John Spielman > >1 John SPIELMAN >.. +Mary M. ? b: 20 Feb 1794 d: 11 Dec 1874 Burial: Boonsboro >Cemetery, Boonsboro, Washington Co., MD >.. 2 Ezra SPIELMAN b: 01 Dec 1835 d: 16 Nov 1915 Burial: Boonsboro >Cemetery, Boonsboro, Washington Co., MD >...... +Mary Elizabeth GIGOUS b: 03 Nov 1832 d: 17 Oct 1902 Burial: >Boonsboro Cemetery, Boonsboro, Washington Co., MD >....... 3 Millard SPIELMAN b: Abt. 1863 in Washington Co., MD > >........... +Susie A. STINE b: Abt. 1867 m: 09 Jun 1892 in Polo, Buffalo >Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Henry Stine Mother: Rebecca Watts > >Roger and Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site >_http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html_ >(http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html) >Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/ > > > >==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >NO FLAMING ALLOWED HERE! Only friendly chat allowed...Thanks! > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > >

Does anyone have a connection to this family? Descendants of John Spielman 1 John SPIELMAN .. +Mary M. ? b: 20 Feb 1794 d: 11 Dec 1874 Burial: Boonsboro Cemetery, Boonsboro, Washington Co., MD .. 2 Ezra SPIELMAN b: 01 Dec 1835 d: 16 Nov 1915 Burial: Boonsboro Cemetery, Boonsboro, Washington Co., MD ...... +Mary Elizabeth GIGOUS b: 03 Nov 1832 d: 17 Oct 1902 Burial: Boonsboro Cemetery, Boonsboro, Washington Co., MD ....... 3 Millard SPIELMAN b: Abt. 1863 in Washington Co., MD ........... +Susie A. STINE b: Abt. 1867 m: 09 Jun 1892 in Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Henry Stine Mother: Rebecca Watts Roger and Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site _http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html_ (http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html) Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/

Hi Lauren, When I posted the message I had thought that Susan's maiden name was Aldridge. Because Elizabeth has that as her last name. But she may have been married again later to someone by that name. I believe the first of your entries is the right one. What else do you have on this family? Susan Albert was my 3 x great-grandmother. Thanks Roger, Sue, and Lauren for all your help, Brenda

Brenda, From the marriage index are these grooms: WALLACE, Otho H./Eleanor R. Dugan 1/18/1820 Otho/Susan Albert 12/22/1829 There are two marriages for William and two for James Wallace in the index. There is nothing in the estate distributions 1778-1835 and nothing in the newspaper extractions I have. Nothing was found in Vol. II and III of the cemetery recors. There are a couple Albert estate distributions: ALBERT, Frederick. Adm. Elizabeth 8/9/1785; widow, John, Elizabeth, Jacob. ALBERT, William. Adm. John 2/26/1829; widow, Ann WEAVER, Mary Catherine, Eleanor. William and John ALBERT appear to be tied to Williamsport. There are other bits of information about these people. Lauren Brantner Mdre007@aol.com wrote: >Hello to everyone, (I hope that this message gets through,) > I'm looking for the parents of Susan Aldridge b. 1810 MD. and also the >parents of Otha (Henry?) Wallace b. 1800 MD. They were married in Maryland. >(Don't know the date.) > These are their children: > 1. Almira b. 1832 > 2. Lawrence b. 1836 > 3. Mary b. 1840 > 4. Catherine b. 1842 > 5. George S. b. 1844 > 6. Samuel b. 1846 > 7. Margaret Ellen b. 23 May 1847 Ogle Co. IL. > 8. Corredia T. b. 1848 Ogle Co. IL. > > Does someone have any information on any of these names I've listed? There >is a census listing I have that possibly has Susan's mother (Elizabeth) >living with them. > Thanks, Brenda > > >==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >If you have a Family Genealogy Website with Washington County connections, >please send the url to FamilyHart at FamilyHart@aol.com. We will place >a link on the Washington County Website. Thanks! > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >. > > >

Hello to everyone, (I hope that this message gets through,) I'm looking for the parents of Susan Aldridge b. 1810 MD. and also the parents of Otha (Henry?) Wallace b. 1800 MD. They were married in Maryland. (Don't know the date.) These are their children: 1. Almira b. 1832 2. Lawrence b. 1836 3. Mary b. 1840 4. Catherine b. 1842 5. George S. b. 1844 6. Samuel b. 1846 7. Margaret Ellen b. 23 May 1847 Ogle Co. IL. 8. Corredia T. b. 1848 Ogle Co. IL. Does someone have any information on any of these names I've listed? There is a census listing I have that possibly has Susan's mother (Elizabeth) living with them. Thanks, Brenda

Ruth, Here is what shows up in newspaper extractions. There are others mentioned - I suspect you may be dealing with same names in multiple generations. It appears that there are at least 3 different Barbara BARRs for you to sort. Maryland Herald March 21, 1799 "To sell cattle, horses, sheep, hogs, grain in the ground, blacksmith's tools, shingles, 3 waggons, furniture - John BARR and Barbara BARR, adm. Nov. 21, 1799 "To sell at dwelling house of Martin BARR, late dec'd, quantity of wheat, rye, sheep, gears, windmill and other, Barbara BARR and John BARR, adm." Feb. 20, 1800 John BARR was among a group of citizens to recommend character to rep 4th district in Congress. Mar. 27, 1800 "Horse Montezuma, will stand this season at Farmer's Delight, in Upper Antietam Hundred, farm of Martin BARR, late dec'd. - John BARR." May 21, 1801 There is an estate for another person whose property is described as 9 miles from Hagerstown and a half mile from John BARR's plantation. June 17, 1808 "Married Tues 14th inst, by Rev. RAHAUSER, Christian NEWCOMER of York Co. to Miss Barbara BARR of this co." May 9, 1806 "John BARR, Spred Eagle Mill, Wash co, has hops for sale." Nov. 28, 1806 Another sale describes property 1 mile from John BARR's mill and 4 miles from Antietam Forge. Dec. 5, 1806 "Jacob BARR has taken up a stray heifer which came to his farm near John BARR's mill." Oct. 24, 1810 Another property is described being 1 mile from Capt. John BARR's mill. March 10, 1813 "Christian GOOD, Adm. of Barbara BARR. Hagerstown Gazette Dec. 29, 1812 "Died Mon morn, 28 inst in 70th year of her age, Mrs. Barbara BARR" Maryland Herald Jan. 26, 1814 John BARR is appointed one of the Justices of the Levy Court for Wash co. Mar. 4, 1812 "Otho Holland WILLIAMS, promoted to command 1st Regimental Cavalry District as major and relieved of command of the American Blues. He retains in the squadron the American Blues along with Washington Hussars. Moses TABBS elected Captain of the American Blues; Jacob BARR 1st Liet., David NEWCOMER, Cornet." by July Jacob BARR is Capt. of the American Blues. The Torchlight April 5, 1825 "Married 8th ult by Rev. Isaac KELLER, John BARR to Miss Nancy WINDERS." From Estate Distributions 1778-1835 BARR, Martin. Adm. Barbara, John. 2/15/1802; widow, Elizabeth STONE, John, Jacob, Andrew, David, Mary, Otilla NEWCOMER. From the marriage index [there are others]: Dv/Sus. RIDENOUR 10/2/1805 John/Betsy ROHRER 1/19/1811 Chr./Barbara TOBY 4/13/1809 Jc./Mary MILLER 5/21/1811 I have vol. II and III [of seven] of the cemetery books and the only name that appears from this group in either of those volumes is in St. Peter's Evangelical Lutheran Church at Clearspring. BARR, Jacob b. 18 Feb. 1803 d. 25 Feb. 1840 You might be able to sort families better if you check the census returns for those early years 1810 - 1840. There is a letter for a William BARR in 1800 in care of James M'Carrell in Hagerstown. There is a David BARR in Frederick, MD who married Christiana MANTZ Aug. 17, 1813 In 1814 David BARR and Frederick ROHRER dissolved a partnership. David BARR continued the tanning business at "the old stand." In 1815 he purchased the tanning yard of Matthias and Charles SHAFFNER in Hagerstown. Good luck! Lauren Brantner Ruth Tysor wrote: > Christopher Barr was my 3rd gr. grandfather. All I know about him is he married Barbara Toby in Washington Co. MD on 13 Apr 1809. A son, John was born a year later. >There was a big lawsuit between Barbara's brother, Michael Toby and all her sisters and their husbands regarding Hills and Dales Vineyards in 1810 and didn't finish up till 1816. >I ordered the CD but the whole 109 pages was about Barbara's family and I didn't learn a single thing about Christopher Barr. >Family lore states they came from England. The son John married a Mary Buck Apr 4 1838 in Ohio and started their family in Ohio then moved on to Indiana and Iowa. I have not been able to find where Christopher died. He did not get to Iowa with his wife and John's family in 1854. >Can any one give me an idea where to search for Christopher's parents. Or even siblings. >I'm at a standstill here and don't know where to turn. Thanks for any suggestions. > >Ruth Tysor >SW Iowa > > >==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >Are your ancestors Pennsylvania Dutch?? Check out the Pennsylvania Dutch Family History site at: >http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >. > > >

Janet: Go to this address which is Clearfield Publishing Co. which is part of the same publishers- and see if its listed, if not you can make an inquiry from the same site. newsletter4@ancestorstuff.com Gordon---- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] Early Roads > > In a message dated 2/27/2005 3:12:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, > mountie@charter.net writes: > > Lauren, can you tell me how to get this book? Would I be able to read it > via interlibrary loan? Can I buy it? > > > > Janet- > > I'm not Lauren but I would think you could get this book on interlibrary > loan. The Library of Congress Catalogue Card Number is 84-80270 and the > ISBN is > 0-8063-1077-4. The book was published by Genealogical Publishing Company > of > Baltimore and may still be available through their website. Keep in mind > that the book ONLY covers the period 1748-1765 and includes genealogical > information in excerpts from Frederick County court judgments for that > time period. > Fortunately, it is well-indexed. > > Joan > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Are your ancestors Pennsylvania Dutch?? Check out the Pennsylvania Dutch > Family History site at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Christopher Barr was my 3rd gr. grandfather. All I know about him is he married Barbara Toby in Washington Co. MD on 13 Apr 1809. A son, John was born a year later. There was a big lawsuit between Barbara's brother, Michael Toby and all her sisters and their husbands regarding Hills and Dales Vineyards in 1810 and didn't finish up till 1816. I ordered the CD but the whole 109 pages was about Barbara's family and I didn't learn a single thing about Christopher Barr. Family lore states they came from England. The son John married a Mary Buck Apr 4 1838 in Ohio and started their family in Ohio then moved on to Indiana and Iowa. I have not been able to find where Christopher died. He did not get to Iowa with his wife and John's family in 1854. Can any one give me an idea where to search for Christopher's parents. Or even siblings. I'm at a standstill here and don't know where to turn. Thanks for any suggestions. Ruth Tysor SW Iowa

Ken: The only name I recognized was Shockey, there are members of this family living in Greencastle, Pa. right now. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Branches & Lil' Twigs" <epaurora@visuallink.com> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: [MDWASHIN] Green(e) - Western MD, PA, VA/WV > Do you know these people? If anyone has any information and/or connection > to any of these people perhaps we could be of help to each other. > > The areas involved would be Washington County, MD which became Allegany > County, MD, possibly the connecting boundaries of Pennsylvania, > Virginia/West Virginia. > > Jeremiah Green(e) m. Elizabeth McConner 13 Oct 1793 > Joshua Green(e) m. Sally Webster 5 Dec 1798 > Joshua Green(e) m. Elizabeth McConner 8 Mar 1800 > William Green(e) m. Margaret Shockey 18 Oct 1817 > William Green(e) m. Catherine Devore 12 Jan 1822 > > I do not know who their parents were, nor do I know any info pertaining to > any children of any of the couples. I in fact do not have very much > information or knowledge about them, other than the narrowing down process > of elimation...they were in a particular area, associated with and close > to other family members during the same time frame. > > I would appreciate hearing from anyone who can help or offer any clues. > > Thank you. > Ken > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > If you have any problems feel free to address those to the list > administrator: MDWASHIN-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

I order it at the following site. The cost was 27.50 plus shipping. http://www.rof.com

In a message dated 2/27/2005 3:12:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, mountie@charter.net writes: Lauren, can you tell me how to get this book? Would I be able to read it via interlibrary loan? Can I buy it? Janet- I'm not Lauren but I would think you could get this book on interlibrary loan. The Library of Congress Catalogue Card Number is 84-80270 and the ISBN is 0-8063-1077-4. The book was published by Genealogical Publishing Company of Baltimore and may still be available through their website. Keep in mind that the book ONLY covers the period 1748-1765 and includes genealogical information in excerpts from Frederick County court judgments for that time period. Fortunately, it is well-indexed. Joan

In a message dated 2/27/2005 2:17:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, lrbrant@concentric.net writes: There are many names in this volume and if you have people in Washington County who started in Frederick County, you may want to examine it. Lauren Brantner Lauren- I agree. I've had a copy of this book for years and I think it is one of the most overlooked resources around. Joan

Lauren, can you tell me how to get this book? Would I be able to read it via interlibrary loan? Can I buy it? Many Thanks, Janet Currie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren Brantner" <lrbrant@concentric.net> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 1:15 PM Subject: [MDWASHIN] Early Roads >I have been reading Millard Milburn Rice's, This was the Life, Excerpts >from the Frederick County Judgement Records for 1748-1765 and have found it >to be a valuable resource for viewing the colonial era and also for >visually seeing how the country developed. For example, this is one of >many road petitions in the volume It is from a Nov. 1760 court session and >gives you a good picture of part of Washington County. > "A long petition by 'sundry inhabitants of the lower part of Andietum > living between Shanon Dor [Shenandoah] and Elk Ridge' gives much > background concerning life in that area. In the petition they state that > 'ever since the first settling of the country they have labored under > great inconveniency for want of a road through our settlement....' They > state that they 'have never failed to meet and help clear all roads > through the hundred of no use to us as we have no road through our > settlement into any of the main roads other than small paths leading from > one plantation to another, which often meets with obstructions by clearing > of fields and moving of fences and turning the path into the most > mountainous insomuch that is has become almost impracticable for us to > pass with loaded horses to any of our mills which are all above us in the > Hundred and no conveniency of a durable stream to build amongst us; and > also our country product we can in no wise remove to any market for want > of a road; and further we are much debar'd from the communion of God's > Holy Worship as we have no road to our church which is fifteen miles > distant at least from the Lower part of our settlement and only on a bad > path thither that in the most seasonable time women and children can > scarcely be in time to hear the sermon.' They ask that 'a waggon road be > cleared from Frail Pain's on Potomac to the main road from Frederick Town > to Andietum Bridge near to the hickory tavern.' > The Court appoints Moses Chapline, Robert Turner and Nathaniel Robinett > to view and lay out the road prayed for." > > Later in the court documents, "From Frail Pain's to Harper's Ferry and the > new road when laid out from Pain's into the main road leading to > Conococheague - Thomas Hogg." Hogg was the overseers appointed for that > particular road. > Wage rates for this time: > 1 day's work was worth 2 shillings; 1 day's work with a man and horse was > worth 4 shillings. Many of the law suits were settled in terms of pounds > of tobacco and Virginia currency had a different value than Maryland > currency. > > There are many names in this volume and if you have people in Washington > County who started in Frederick County, you may want to examine it. > > Lauren Brantner > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Are your ancestors Pennsylvania Dutch?? Check out the Pennsylvania Dutch > Family History site at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Do you know these people? If anyone has any information and/or connection to any of these people perhaps we could be of help to each other. The areas involved would be Washington County, MD which became Allegany County, MD, possibly the connecting boundaries of Pennsylvania, Virginia/West Virginia. Jeremiah Green(e) m. Elizabeth McConner 13 Oct 1793 Joshua Green(e) m. Sally Webster 5 Dec 1798 Joshua Green(e) m. Elizabeth McConner 8 Mar 1800 William Green(e) m. Margaret Shockey 18 Oct 1817 William Green(e) m. Catherine Devore 12 Jan 1822 I do not know who their parents were, nor do I know any info pertaining to any children of any of the couples. I in fact do not have very much information or knowledge about them, other than the narrowing down process of elimation...they were in a particular area, associated with and close to other family members during the same time frame. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who can help or offer any clues. Thank you. Ken

Ken, there is nothing in the estate distributions 1778-1835 for Green at all. None of the marriages you list are in the marriage index 1799-1860 for Washington County; none are in the licenses for Frederick County from 1778-1810 [two don't fit that time frame]. There are a few entries for William Green in the newpaper extractions. Maryland Advocate January 12, 1828 "William Greene was killed in his well in this town, Wed evening last. He was near the bottom of the well, engaged in walling it up. Persons who were employed to lower stone to him in a large wooden vessel, let the bucket in which was placed a large stone, fall into the well, which struck Mr. Greene on the left side of his head, and killed him instantly. He left a wife and three small children." The Maryland Herald Sept. 12, 1802 "Died Sat morning last, after a short illness, Mrs. Achsa Green, wife of William Green of Wash co, leaving three small children and husband." March 9, 1803 "William Green to sell horses, cows, pair of oxen, 30 hogs, wagon and gear, furniture at Major Martin Kershner's Mill." May 4, 1803 "William Green, Hagers Town, intending to leave the state for a short time, requests payment of debts." Sept. 14, 1803 "Married at Fred Town, Sun 4th inst, by Rev. Knox, William Green of this town to Miss Betsy Owings, of Fred co." Mar. 7, 1804 "Grist and merchant mill - William Green solicits a continuance of custom to Geo Miller's Mill which he has lately taken." I don't know if any of these are yours. Lauren Brantner Branches & Lil' Twigs wrote: >Do you know these people? If anyone has any information and/or connection to any of these people perhaps we could be of help to each other. > >The areas involved would be Washington County, MD which became Allegany County, MD, possibly the connecting boundaries of Pennsylvania, Virginia/West Virginia. > >Jeremiah Green(e) m. Elizabeth McConner 13 Oct 1793 >Joshua Green(e) m. Sally Webster 5 Dec 1798 >Joshua Green(e) m. Elizabeth McConner 8 Mar 1800 >William Green(e) m. Margaret Shockey 18 Oct 1817 >William Green(e) m. Catherine Devore 12 Jan 1822 > >I do not know who their parents were, nor do I know any info pertaining to any children of any of the couples. I in fact do not have very much information or knowledge about them, other than the narrowing down process of elimation...they were in a particular area, associated with and close to other family members during the same time frame. > >I would appreciate hearing from anyone who can help or offer any clues. > >Thank you. >Ken > > >==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >If you have any problems feel free to address those to the list administrator: MDWASHIN-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >. > > >

I have been reading Millard Milburn Rice's, This was the Life, Excerpts from the Frederick County Judgement Records for 1748-1765 and have found it to be a valuable resource for viewing the colonial era and also for visually seeing how the country developed. For example, this is one of many road petitions in the volume It is from a Nov. 1760 court session and gives you a good picture of part of Washington County. "A long petition by 'sundry inhabitants of the lower part of Andietum living between Shanon Dor [Shenandoah] and Elk Ridge' gives much background concerning life in that area. In the petition they state that 'ever since the first settling of the country they have labored under great inconveniency for want of a road through our settlement....' They state that they 'have never failed to meet and help clear all roads through the hundred of no use to us as we have no road through our settlement into any of the main roads other than small paths leading from one plantation to another, which often meets with obstructions by clearing of fields and moving of fences and turning the path into the most mountainous insomuch that is has become almost impracticable for us to pass with loaded horses to any of our mills which are all above us in the Hundred and no conveniency of a durable stream to build amongst us; and also our country product we can in no wise remove to any market for want of a road; and further we are much debar'd from the communion of God's Holy Worship as we have no road to our church which is fifteen miles distant at least from the Lower part of our settlement and only on a bad path thither that in the most seasonable time women and children can scarcely be in time to hear the sermon.' They ask that 'a waggon road be cleared from Frail Pain's on Potomac to the main road from Frederick Town to Andietum Bridge near to the hickory tavern.' The Court appoints Moses Chapline, Robert Turner and Nathaniel Robinett to view and lay out the road prayed for." Later in the court documents, "From Frail Pain's to Harper's Ferry and the new road when laid out from Pain's into the main road leading to Conococheague - Thomas Hogg." Hogg was the overseers appointed for that particular road. Wage rates for this time: 1 day's work was worth 2 shillings; 1 day's work with a man and horse was worth 4 shillings. Many of the law suits were settled in terms of pounds of tobacco and Virginia currency had a different value than Maryland currency. There are many names in this volume and if you have people in Washington County who started in Frederick County, you may want to examine it. Lauren Brantner

Greetings. Your 18 February Hessians message very interesting. A family member, Adam Butner Jr., a Loyalist and member of Capt. Hunter's North Carolina Volunteers, was captured with Corwallis. Is there an available roster or method of verification I can use to followup for more information? Thank You. jclayb1@cox.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Hoffman" <smoketownuniv@myactv.net> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:55 PM Subject: [MDWASHIN] Hessians > The Library of Congress has George Washington's Papers on line and I have > an order he signed Oct. 24, 1781, right after the Battle of Yorktown. He > wrote..... > > > Winchester > Artillery 193 > Cuards 467 > 23rd Regiment 205 > 43rd 307 > 2 Battalion of Anspach 948 > Queens Rangers 248 > Pioneers 33 > 2924 > > Fort Frederick > Light Infantry 594 > 17th Regiment 205 > 33rd 225 > 71st 242 > 80th 588 > Prince Hereditary 425 > Reg't De Bose 271 > Yagers 68 > Scottish Legion 192 > North Carolina Volunteers 114 > 2924 > > > "To the Commissary General of Prisoners, You are to dispose of the > Prisoners as above" > > Camp near York > 25 Oct 1781 G. Washington > > I have wondered too about a list of prisoners from Fort Frederick. > Everything I have read in the research of my ancestor, who served in the > Prince Hereditary (Erbprinz) Regiment, indicates that this regiment went > to Winchester enroute, then on to Fredericktowne, Maryland. It is my > belief that there was some confusion about the term Fort Frederick. Some > feel that the prisoners who were routed to Fort Frederick (Washington > County) were sent there for reasons of economy (ie. cost to feed them > enroute?) or it was closer from Winchester than the Barracks in Frederick > County, MD. It would seem that there were prisoners at Ft. Frederick, but > I've not ready anything detailed about it yet. I will ask on another list > I belong to. In the meantime, I have these Notes: > > >>From A Hessian Diary of the American Revolution by Johann Conrad Dohla, >>translated by Bruce E. Burgoyne, I have these notes ........ > > Johann Conrad Dohla was part of the Anspach-Bayreuth Regiment. > > Lord Cornwallis surrendered October 19, 1781. The troops were marched > north, Six Hundred "Englanders" are already in captivity at > Fredericksburg. November 2nd, part of the captive troops, Scots and > English were escorted to Fort Frederick in Maryland. Also Hereditary > Prince and Bose Regiments were separated from the others. > Anspach-Bayreuth Reg't and others continued to the Fairfax, VA > courthouse, then on to the New Frederick Barracks near Winchester, VA. > January 26, 1782, All captive troops held at Winchester, VA were sent to > Frederick, Maryland. He mentions marching through Shepherstown, > Sharpsburg, Middletown and on to Frederick. In February, all the English > prisoners were sent to Lancaster, PA. > > Cindy Hoffman > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Many Washington County families are online at the FamilyHart Database. > The url is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Mike, I've always wondered if the cemetery books are loosely arranged along these enumeration districts. When Dale Morrow reproduced the first version of them, he says in his introductions that he left Samuel Webster Piper's maps out because they were done in 1942 and were no longer reliable aids, but that the original books can be located in the Washington County Free Library. Because they are geared more toward cemetery locations, I don't know what they would look like. Has anyone on the list ever looked at them? Is it possible that these maps are somewhere in the National Archives? It also might be worth checking Maryland Archives to see what they have. It also seems to me as I looked up census readings that there are changes in these over time - ie earlier ones refer to large land holdings like Lower Antietam One Hundred. Has redistricting changed them recently? You've posed a very interesting research problem. There may be different maps for different periods of time. Lauren Brantner Rohrer wrote: >I would like to obtain maps showing the enumeration districts in Washington County for all the Federal censuses. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks. >Mike > > >==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >The OFFICIAL website for this list is: >http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/washington/ > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >. > > >

I would also like to see these maps available. Think Mike has a good idea. Can anyone help? Jo Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rohrer" <mrohrer@usa.com> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 12:50 AM Subject: [MDWASHIN] Census Enumeration Districts > I would like to obtain maps showing the enumeration districts in Washington County for all the Federal censuses. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks. > Mike > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/washington/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I would like to obtain maps showing the enumeration districts in Washington County for all the Federal censuses. Any suggestions? Thanks. Mike