Washington Co.Md. Obit Finder 1790 to 1943..... Hock Catherine 47 obit in newspaper 8 June 1920 Hock, Harry 68 in newspaper 19 March 1913 Hoch, Mrs. Henry no age given 6 July 1915 in newspaper ( Daily Mail) HOCK, Raleigh 55 25 Jan 1924 date obit in newspaper Daily Mail Rose Hill Cemetery have records in the office. The staff was able to assist me with a question like ' state in which death occurred'. If you need the address for the cemetery let me know. Betty

I'm still going in circles on this man. "Thank you" to everyone that has tried to help. The other names I have, is a list of marriages. They could possibly be his siblings. David/Susanna Ridenour 10/2/1805 Christopher/Barbara Toby 4/13/09 My 3rd gr. grandparents John/Betsy Rohrer l/19/11 Jacob/Mary Miller 5/21/11 Benj./Mary Tutwiler 3/7/16 John/Nancy Winders 3/8/25 John/Mary Showman 2/8/26 Christian/Susanna Bachtel 6/3/16 There are other female Barrs but their dates are much later. Christopher/Barbara Toby, John/Mary Buck, William Dunn/Mary Elizabeth Estes, Harvey Colwell/Virdie White. are the main names. My Harvey was born here in Iowa in 1880. I found a Harvey in Tenn today that was also from England, so I must try to find out about that. I also found two books listed on Familysearch, "The Promised Land: the story of the Barr colonists by C. Wetton. Also, Muddling Through: the remarkable story of the Barr colonists by Lynn Bowen. The Barr Colony covered land in the provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan. I suppose anything is possible here but I can't believe this has anything to do with my Barrs but maybe it will help some one else. I found a John Barr on the list of the Ship "Defence" on 19 Sept 1776 for state of MD. I've decided to study their travel habits. MD. to Holmes Co. Ohio, to Whitely, Ind. Have no idea how they got to west central Iowa from Indiana in 1854, and I've copied every census I can find. I have no idea how to find church information from that area. I love old newspaper clippings. I think they give a true picture of life during that time. Sorry if I'm long winded!! Ruth in SW Iowa

Is it possible for anyone to look up an obit for me? I'm looking for Henry K. HOCH / HOCK who died 30 May, 1925 and is buried in Rose Hill Cemetery......................... I have looked at the on-line death indexes and can't seem to find him??? I'm wondering if he may have died somewhere else since his wife died in 1915 maybe he moved off with one of the kids and they came back to bury him with his wife????? Any help at all is greatly appreciated! Thanks so much! Sharon in Fl.

Look at land records - follow the county evolution back - if they owned land they will show up. Anything that early (pre 1776) is in Frederick County or it's predecessor - wouldn't be Washington County. George Ely Russell has written a research guide for Frederick County published by Catoctin Press. I use his Washington County research guide all the time. Lauren joe butner wrote: > Greetings Lauren. > > Thank you very much for the information. This date has been my > starting point for some time for my line. BUT, I have found nothing > before: sorry to extend this, but any suggestions. > > Thanks again. > > Joe Butner > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren Brantner" > <lrbrant@concentric.net> > To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:56 AM > Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] Hessians - BUTNER > > >> Joe - >> In the Rice book I mentioned in recent days I found a reference to >> BUTTNER >> In the August 1750 Court records for Frederick County is this >> information: >> p. 49 >> "The Grand Jurors present Micajah Plummer for stealing a colt >> belonging to Adam Buttner on the information of Joshua Barton, John >> Carmack, John Martin, Jr., William Beatty, Catherine Buttner, Anna >> Buttner, James Buttner, Jeremiah Elroade, Benjamin Barton, Leah >> Buttner, Adam Buttner and Martha Buttner." >> >> Lauren Brantner >> >> >> joe butner wrote: >> >>> Greetings. >>> >>> Your 18 February Hessians message very interesting. >>> >>> A family member, Adam Butner Jr., a Loyalist and member of Capt. >>> Hunter's North Carolina Volunteers, was captured with Corwallis. Is >>> there an available roster or method of verification I can use to >>> followup for more information? >>> >>> Thank You. >>> >>> jclayb1@cox.net >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Hoffman" >>> <smoketownuniv@myactv.net> >>> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:55 PM >>> Subject: [MDWASHIN] Hessians >>> >>> >>>> The Library of Congress has George Washington's Papers on line and >>>> I have an order he signed Oct. 24, 1781, right after the Battle of >>>> Yorktown. He wrote..... >>>> >>>> >>>> Winchester >>>> Artillery 193 >>>> Cuards 467 >>>> 23rd Regiment 205 >>>> 43rd 307 >>>> 2 Battalion of Anspach 948 >>>> Queens Rangers 248 >>>> Pioneers 33 >>>> 2924 >>>> >>>> Fort Frederick >>>> Light Infantry 594 >>>> 17th Regiment 205 >>>> 33rd 225 >>>> 71st 242 >>>> 80th 588 >>>> Prince Hereditary 425 >>>> Reg't De Bose 271 >>>> Yagers 68 >>>> Scottish Legion 192 >>>> North Carolina Volunteers 114 >>>> 2924 >>>> >>>> >>>> "To the Commissary General of Prisoners, You are to dispose of the >>>> Prisoners as above" >>>> >>>> Camp near York >>>> 25 Oct 1781 G. Washington >>>> >>>> I have wondered too about a list of prisoners from Fort Frederick. >>>> Everything I have read in the research of my ancestor, who served >>>> in the Prince Hereditary (Erbprinz) Regiment, indicates that this >>>> regiment went to Winchester enroute, then on to Fredericktowne, >>>> Maryland. It is my belief that there was some confusion about the >>>> term Fort Frederick. Some feel that the prisoners who were routed >>>> to Fort Frederick (Washington County) were sent there for reasons >>>> of economy (ie. cost to feed them enroute?) or it was closer from >>>> Winchester than the Barracks in Frederick County, MD. It would >>>> seem that there were prisoners at Ft. Frederick, but I've not ready >>>> anything detailed about it yet. I will ask on another list I >>>> belong to. In the meantime, I have these Notes: >>>> >>>> >>>>> From A Hessian Diary of the American Revolution by Johann Conrad >>>>> Dohla, translated by Bruce E. Burgoyne, I have these notes ........ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johann Conrad Dohla was part of the Anspach-Bayreuth Regiment. >>>> >>>> Lord Cornwallis surrendered October 19, 1781. The troops were >>>> marched north, Six Hundred "Englanders" are already in captivity at >>>> Fredericksburg. November 2nd, part of the captive troops, Scots >>>> and English were escorted to Fort Frederick in Maryland. Also >>>> Hereditary Prince and Bose Regiments were separated from the >>>> others. Anspach-Bayreuth Reg't and others continued to the >>>> Fairfax, VA courthouse, then on to the New Frederick Barracks near >>>> Winchester, VA. January 26, 1782, All captive troops held at >>>> Winchester, VA were sent to Frederick, Maryland. He mentions >>>> marching through Shepherstown, Sharpsburg, Middletown and on to >>>> Frederick. In February, all the English prisoners were sent to >>>> Lancaster, PA. >>>> >>>> Cindy Hoffman >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >>>> Many Washington County families are online at the FamilyHart >>>> Database. The url is: >>>> http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>>> marriage announcements and more. 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Is there anyone connected to Charles H Riley born about 1867 in Warren county Virginia. He moved to Washington County near Boonesboro in the early 1900's. At that time his first wife Lillie Clark Riley died and he remarried to a Clara maiden name unknown. He also had his mother living with him. I would love to locate if she died there in Boonesboro or back in Virginia. Her name was Roberta Berthena Costello, born about 1850 she married Riley then Thomas and last Alexander. But in 1910 she was listed with Charles Riley as last name Riley at that time her husband Robert Alexander (from Virginia ) had also passed away. Any information on this family would be appreciated.

Greetings Lauren. Thank you very much for the information. This date has been my starting point for some time for my line. BUT, I have found nothing before: sorry to extend this, but any suggestions. Thanks again. Joe Butner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren Brantner" <lrbrant@concentric.net> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] Hessians - BUTNER > Joe - > In the Rice book I mentioned in recent days I found a reference to BUTTNER > In the August 1750 Court records for Frederick County is this information: > p. 49 > "The Grand Jurors present Micajah Plummer for stealing a colt belonging to > Adam Buttner on the information of Joshua Barton, John Carmack, John > Martin, Jr., William Beatty, Catherine Buttner, Anna Buttner, James > Buttner, Jeremiah Elroade, Benjamin Barton, Leah Buttner, Adam Buttner and > Martha Buttner." > > Lauren Brantner > > > joe butner wrote: > >> Greetings. >> >> Your 18 February Hessians message very interesting. >> >> A family member, Adam Butner Jr., a Loyalist and member of Capt. Hunter's >> North Carolina Volunteers, was captured with Corwallis. Is there an >> available roster or method of verification I can use to followup for more >> information? >> >> Thank You. >> >> jclayb1@cox.net >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Hoffman" >> <smoketownuniv@myactv.net> >> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:55 PM >> Subject: [MDWASHIN] Hessians >> >> >>> The Library of Congress has George Washington's Papers on line and I >>> have an order he signed Oct. 24, 1781, right after the Battle of >>> Yorktown. He wrote..... >>> >>> >>> Winchester >>> Artillery 193 >>> Cuards 467 >>> 23rd Regiment 205 >>> 43rd 307 >>> 2 Battalion of Anspach 948 >>> Queens Rangers 248 >>> Pioneers 33 >>> 2924 >>> >>> Fort Frederick >>> Light Infantry 594 >>> 17th Regiment 205 >>> 33rd 225 >>> 71st 242 >>> 80th 588 >>> Prince Hereditary 425 >>> Reg't De Bose 271 >>> Yagers 68 >>> Scottish Legion 192 >>> North Carolina Volunteers 114 >>> 2924 >>> >>> >>> "To the Commissary General of Prisoners, You are to dispose of the >>> Prisoners as above" >>> >>> Camp near York >>> 25 Oct 1781 G. Washington >>> >>> I have wondered too about a list of prisoners from Fort Frederick. >>> Everything I have read in the research of my ancestor, who served in the >>> Prince Hereditary (Erbprinz) Regiment, indicates that this regiment went >>> to Winchester enroute, then on to Fredericktowne, Maryland. It is my >>> belief that there was some confusion about the term Fort Frederick. Some >>> feel that the prisoners who were routed to Fort Frederick (Washington >>> County) were sent there for reasons of economy (ie. cost to feed them >>> enroute?) or it was closer from Winchester than the Barracks in >>> Frederick County, MD. It would seem that there were prisoners at Ft. >>> Frederick, but I've not ready anything detailed about it yet. I will >>> ask on another list I belong to. In the meantime, I have these Notes: >>> >>> >>>> From A Hessian Diary of the American Revolution by Johann Conrad Dohla, >>>> translated by Bruce E. Burgoyne, I have these notes ........ >>> >>> >>> Johann Conrad Dohla was part of the Anspach-Bayreuth Regiment. >>> >>> Lord Cornwallis surrendered October 19, 1781. The troops were marched >>> north, Six Hundred "Englanders" are already in captivity at >>> Fredericksburg. November 2nd, part of the captive troops, Scots and >>> English were escorted to Fort Frederick in Maryland. Also Hereditary >>> Prince and Bose Regiments were separated from the others. >>> Anspach-Bayreuth Reg't and others continued to the Fairfax, VA >>> courthouse, then on to the New Frederick Barracks near Winchester, VA. >>> January 26, 1782, All captive troops held at Winchester, VA were sent to >>> Frederick, Maryland. He mentions marching through Shepherstown, >>> Sharpsburg, Middletown and on to Frederick. In February, all the >>> English prisoners were sent to Lancaster, PA. >>> >>> Cindy Hoffman >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >>> Many Washington County families are online at the FamilyHart Database. >>> The url is: >>> http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ >>> >>> ============================== >>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> >> ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >> Are your ancestors Pennsylvania Dutch?? 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Joe - In the Rice book I mentioned in recent days I found a reference to BUTTNER In the August 1750 Court records for Frederick County is this information: p. 49 "The Grand Jurors present Micajah Plummer for stealing a colt belonging to Adam Buttner on the information of Joshua Barton, John Carmack, John Martin, Jr., William Beatty, Catherine Buttner, Anna Buttner, James Buttner, Jeremiah Elroade, Benjamin Barton, Leah Buttner, Adam Buttner and Martha Buttner." Lauren Brantner joe butner wrote: > Greetings. > > Your 18 February Hessians message very interesting. > > A family member, Adam Butner Jr., a Loyalist and member of Capt. > Hunter's North Carolina Volunteers, was captured with Corwallis. Is > there an available roster or method of verification I can use to > followup for more information? > > Thank You. > > jclayb1@cox.net > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Hoffman" > <smoketownuniv@myactv.net> > To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:55 PM > Subject: [MDWASHIN] Hessians > > >> The Library of Congress has George Washington's Papers on line and I >> have an order he signed Oct. 24, 1781, right after the Battle of >> Yorktown. He wrote..... >> >> >> Winchester >> Artillery 193 >> Cuards 467 >> 23rd Regiment 205 >> 43rd 307 >> 2 Battalion of Anspach 948 >> Queens Rangers 248 >> Pioneers 33 >> 2924 >> >> Fort Frederick >> Light Infantry 594 >> 17th Regiment 205 >> 33rd 225 >> 71st 242 >> 80th 588 >> Prince Hereditary 425 >> Reg't De Bose 271 >> Yagers 68 >> Scottish Legion 192 >> North Carolina Volunteers 114 >> 2924 >> >> >> "To the Commissary General of Prisoners, You are to dispose of the >> Prisoners as above" >> >> Camp near York >> 25 Oct 1781 G. Washington >> >> I have wondered too about a list of prisoners from Fort Frederick. >> Everything I have read in the research of my ancestor, who served in >> the Prince Hereditary (Erbprinz) Regiment, indicates that this >> regiment went to Winchester enroute, then on to Fredericktowne, >> Maryland. It is my belief that there was some confusion about the >> term Fort Frederick. Some feel that the prisoners who were routed to >> Fort Frederick (Washington County) were sent there for reasons of >> economy (ie. cost to feed them enroute?) or it was closer from >> Winchester than the Barracks in Frederick County, MD. It would seem >> that there were prisoners at Ft. Frederick, but I've not ready >> anything detailed about it yet. I will ask on another list I belong >> to. In the meantime, I have these Notes: >> >> >>> From A Hessian Diary of the American Revolution by Johann Conrad >>> Dohla, translated by Bruce E. Burgoyne, I have these notes ........ >> >> >> Johann Conrad Dohla was part of the Anspach-Bayreuth Regiment. >> >> Lord Cornwallis surrendered October 19, 1781. The troops were >> marched north, Six Hundred "Englanders" are already in captivity at >> Fredericksburg. November 2nd, part of the captive troops, Scots and >> English were escorted to Fort Frederick in Maryland. Also Hereditary >> Prince and Bose Regiments were separated from the others. >> Anspach-Bayreuth Reg't and others continued to the Fairfax, VA >> courthouse, then on to the New Frederick Barracks near Winchester, >> VA. January 26, 1782, All captive troops held at Winchester, VA were >> sent to Frederick, Maryland. He mentions marching through >> Shepherstown, Sharpsburg, Middletown and on to Frederick. In >> February, all the English prisoners were sent to Lancaster, PA. >> >> Cindy Hoffman >> >> >> >> ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >> Many Washington County families are online at the FamilyHart >> Database. The url is: >> http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Are your ancestors Pennsylvania Dutch?? Check out the Pennsylvania > Dutch Family History site at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > >

Ruth, I appreciate your checking. Thanks! Connie Connie Shotts Charlotte, NC -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Tysor [mailto:RTYSOR@peoplepc.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 7:54 PM To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] CHRISTOPHER BARR Connie and George: Sorry, but your names aren't familiar to me. Ruth in SW Iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: <GeorgeEyler@aol.com> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] CHRISTOPHER BARR > Connie, > > A distant cousin of mine, Upton Barr Freaner, was born & raise in > Hagerstown, > Washington County, MD in the 1830s. > > Do you known of a relationship between the Barr and Freaner families? > > George Eyler > Norman, OK > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing > lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To > subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== The OFFICIAL website for this list is: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/washington/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Lauren, I will have to sort through some papers, but I had a census that showed an Elizabeth Aldridge living with Otha and family. The year may have been 1850? By that time they were living in Ogle Co. IL. This census listed an Almira as the oldest child but there was not an Emma listed. I believe that the Elizabeth may have been Susan's mother, (by her age.) Maybe Elizabeth had married again to someone whose last name was Aldridge and he had died too. Thanks, Brenda

Connie and George: Sorry, but your names aren't familiar to me. Ruth in SW Iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: <GeorgeEyler@aol.com> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] CHRISTOPHER BARR > Connie, > > A distant cousin of mine, Upton Barr Freaner, was born & raise in > Hagerstown, > Washington County, MD in the 1830s. > > Do you known of a relationship between the Barr and Freaner families? > > George Eyler > Norman, OK > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing > lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To > subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Just a quick note to BARR researchers - when I looked at immigration lists in Ancestry I discovered that there are both German BARR immigrants and Irish BARR immigrants. Lauren Brantner

Christopher turns up in an Ancestry database that is Marsha Lynn Fuller's book on Washington County Naturalizations prior to 1880. The year 1810 is listed - info is in the Washington County Courthouse too - date & port of arrival, place of origin, place of naturalization etc. are listed. I don't have that book, but perhaps someone on the list does. Or if you're close to the courthouse, you might check it out. William Barr is also listed with an 1802 date - I assume that is when they were naturalized. They are the only two who show up on the search as specifically Washington County - I would bet because of the naturalization record. Lauren Ruth Tysor wrote: >Lauren: Thank you so much for your information. You spent a lot of time typing all that information for me. I appreciate it!! >Some of these "Johns" are much too young. I realize they could be siblings or ancestors of my Christopher. I'll keep all of it for reference. The marriage entry Chr./Barbara Toby 4/13/1809 was my Christopher. Their son, John was born 1 Apr 1810. I have full documentation on John up to present time. >I have a bunch of Barr names who married about the same time Christopher and Barbara were. I wouldn't be surprised if they were'nt related. Hope I know for sure some day!! There were so many Barr families in PA that moved on to Indiana but my guy didn't seem to belong to any of them. I belong to the Barr surname list and don't seem to be able to make a connection on there either. If I could find out where he died I might learn something. >I'll hit the LDS center tomorrow and do some more census searching. Thanks for your interest and desire to help. (I actually hear a rooster crowing off in the distance. What a delightful sound!!) > >Ruth in SW Iowa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >pr 1810. > > >==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > >

Connie, Thank you for the quick reply. None of the names given fit with the Freaner families. George

Hi George, No, I don't know of a connection. I have only the one name - Mary Barr - and the only connection I have for her is to my 5th great grandfather - Henry Trisler. I can tell you that the Trislers were a German family and other closely associated families included the Housers, Hoovers, Brunners, Rhorers and Cawbys. Do any of those names fit in with the Freaner name? I think most of these families (except for some Rhorers and one Trisler family that I can't connect to mine) left the Hagerstown area by around 1800 and settled in Jessamine County KY. To my knowledge, none of my family remained in Hagerstown after 1800. Sorry I couldn't help. Connie Connie Shotts Charlotte, NC -----Original Message----- From: GeorgeEyler@aol.com [mailto:GeorgeEyler@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:03 PM To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] CHRISTOPHER BARR Connie, A distant cousin of mine, Upton Barr Freaner, was born & raise in Hagerstown, Washington County, MD in the 1830s. Do you known of a relationship between the Barr and Freaner families? George Eyler Norman, OK ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Connie, A distant cousin of mine, Upton Barr Freaner, was born & raise in Hagerstown, Washington County, MD in the 1830s. Do you known of a relationship between the Barr and Freaner families? George Eyler Norman, OK

Ruth and other Barr researchers, I have been searching for information on the family connections of a Mary Barr who married Henry Trisler (variety of spellings) sometime before they settled in Jessamine County KY before 1800. My searches to date have been unsuccessful. It seems that Henry's family (father: Dr. Peter Trisler) came from the Hagerstown MD area to Jessamine County around 1789. When the Trislers arrived in America is not proven, although family legend says 1780 -- I suspect it may have been earlier. Supposedly, they arrived in Philadelphia and made their way to the Hagerstown MD area. Presumably, Mary Barr and Henry Trisler married in MD, but perhaps in PA or VA. Mary Barr Trisler was still alive and a widow on the 1850 census in Jessamine County KY; the record indicates that she was born in VA or PA about 1774. Does anyone by chance have a "stray" Mary Barr in your records? Thanks, Connie P.S. I don't think that Mary is related to the Robert and Thomas Barr associated with Transylvania College near Lexington KY in the same time period that she was living in Jessamine County, the county south of Fayette County where Lexington is located. Connie Shotts Charlotte, NC -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Tysor [mailto:RTYSOR@peoplepc.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 3:08 PM To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDWASHIN] CHRISTOPHER BARR Lauren: Thank you so much for your information. You spent a lot of time typing all that information for me. I appreciate it!! Some of these "Johns" are much too young. I realize they could be siblings or ancestors of my Christopher. I'll keep all of it for reference. The marriage entry Chr./Barbara Toby 4/13/1809 was my Christopher. Their son, John was born 1 Apr 1810. I have full documentation on John up to present time. I have a bunch of Barr names who married about the same time Christopher and Barbara were. I wouldn't be surprised if they were'nt related. Hope I know for sure some day!! There were so many Barr families in PA that moved on to Indiana but my guy didn't seem to belong to any of them. I belong to the Barr surname list and don't seem to be able to make a connection on there either. If I could find out where he died I might learn something. I'll hit the LDS center tomorrow and do some more census searching. Thanks for your interest and desire to help. (I actually hear a rooster crowing off in the distance. What a delightful sound!!) Ruth in SW Iowa pr 1810. ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

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Lauren: Thank you so much for your information. You spent a lot of time typing all that information for me. I appreciate it!! Some of these "Johns" are much too young. I realize they could be siblings or ancestors of my Christopher. I'll keep all of it for reference. The marriage entry Chr./Barbara Toby 4/13/1809 was my Christopher. Their son, John was born 1 Apr 1810. I have full documentation on John up to present time. I have a bunch of Barr names who married about the same time Christopher and Barbara were. I wouldn't be surprised if they were'nt related. Hope I know for sure some day!! There were so many Barr families in PA that moved on to Indiana but my guy didn't seem to belong to any of them. I belong to the Barr surname list and don't seem to be able to make a connection on there either. If I could find out where he died I might learn something. I'll hit the LDS center tomorrow and do some more census searching. Thanks for your interest and desire to help. (I actually hear a rooster crowing off in the distance. What a delightful sound!!) Ruth in SW Iowa pr 1810.

The two marriages are not necessarily mutually exclusive - he may have been married to the first person and she died and he remarried the Susan you are familiar with. [Women died in childbirth more frequently than now, for example.] I am missing the information by which you decided what Susan's maiden name was, I guess; how did you prove the relationship of Elizabeth Aldridge to this family? Otho seems to have been an "in" name for awhile - I think I've seen two or three men with that name during the early to mid 1800's in Washington County. I gave you what I found in my sources for Washington County. I do not have a complete library - that is not possible because there is information that can only be found in Maryland Archives or in the courthouse that has not been published. I only have 2 volumes of the 7 volumes of cemetery records, there are other probate records published, etc. I don't want you to mistakenly think that all the available sources of data have been accessed with my lookup. That is why I try to include dates in my sources - some are very limited. You might ask the list if anyone is researching the Albert family - you might find more information. Good hunting! Lauren Brantner Mdre007@aol.com wrote: >Hi Lauren, > When I posted the message I had thought that Susan's maiden name was >Aldridge. Because Elizabeth has that as her last name. But she may have been >married again later to someone by that name. I believe the first of your entries >is the right one. What else do you have on this family? Susan Albert was my >3 x great-grandmother. Thanks Roger, Sue, and Lauren for all your help, >Brenda > > >==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== >Are your ancestors Pennsylvania Dutch?? Check out the Pennsylvania Dutch Family History site at: >http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >. > > >

Hi Lauren, I'm Phil. Another nickname for Mary may be Molly. At my age I don't remember so well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren Brantner" <lrbrant@concentric.net> To: <MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [MDWASHIN] John Spielman > Roger, there is a marriage between John SPEILMAN/Polly SEIGLER > 4/25/1820. If I recall correctly, Polly is a nickname for Mary. Someone > can correct me if I am not remembering accurately. The marriage index > says 10/1/1857 for Ezra and Elizabeth GEIGIS. > This family is in one of the Bibles in the Washington County Free Library: > SIGLER, Mary b. 20 FEb. 1794 d. 1874 is in the John Speilman/Spealman > family bible. > There are 3 1/4 pages (8 1/2 x 11 single spaced) of entries so it is too > large to keyboard in. Do you want me to scan it and send it to you? > It appears that some of them went to Carroll County IL. - they are > buried in Chadwick Cemetery in that county. > Lauren > > RogerCubs@aol.com wrote: > > >Does anyone have a connection to this family? > > > >Descendants of John Spielman > > > >1 John SPIELMAN > >.. +Mary M. ? b: 20 Feb 1794 d: 11 Dec 1874 Burial: Boonsboro > >Cemetery, Boonsboro, Washington Co., MD > >.. 2 Ezra SPIELMAN b: 01 Dec 1835 d: 16 Nov 1915 Burial: Boonsboro > >Cemetery, Boonsboro, Washington Co., MD > >...... +Mary Elizabeth GIGOUS b: 03 Nov 1832 d: 17 Oct 1902 Burial: > >Boonsboro Cemetery, Boonsboro, Washington Co., MD > >....... 3 Millard SPIELMAN b: Abt. 1863 in Washington Co., MD > > > >........... +Susie A. STINE b: Abt. 1867 m: 09 Jun 1892 in Polo, Buffalo > >Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Henry Stine Mother: Rebecca Watts > > > >Roger and Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site > >_http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html_ > >(http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html) > >Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/ > > > > > > > >==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > >NO FLAMING ALLOWED HERE! Only friendly chat allowed...Thanks! > > > >============================== > >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MDWASHIN Mailing List ==== > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/washington/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >