Hi Kat, This is why I think so: 1/13/1712: Admin. accts. of Edward Fisher, SMC. NOK: John Abell and Thomas Beatson (surname should be Batson). 5/13/1714: Admin. accts. of Edward Fisher, SMC. Payments to: John Abell for his wife (unnamed, a child's part); Thomas Batson for his wife (unnamed, a child's part), Adm., Wm. Thompson (Skinner). The estate was paid by John Taylor. The estate made payments to (in addition to the children): David Watson, Mr. Henry Lowe, and Thomas Price. Linda Reno -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of K Mills Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:14 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Enoch ABELL and wife Judith Lynda, I'm following this closely and on baited breath! Can you fill me in again on your thinking as to why you think John Abell, Sr. married ____ Fisher? I agree that the assumption that Judith was a "Booth" had no foundation I've been able to find, except for the middle name of a son... < , |/ < ' /|   Kat Mills   --- On Mon, 2/11/13, Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> wrote: From: Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Enoch ABELL and wife Judith To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 9:32 AM I'm not finished with this and I have to put it aside for the time being.  These are my comments so far: **Cuthbert Abell was the son of John Abell, Sr. and _____Fisher. Richard OSBOURNE was married to Ann CLARKE Aunt of Robert Clarke Jr. and Half Sister of Robert Clarke Sr. who married Sarah COMBS.  **NO, Robert Clarke, Jr. was the half uncle of Ann Clarke. She was the daughter of John Clarke (son of Robert Clarke, Jr. and his first wife, Eleanor).  Anne's father, John Clarke was a half brother of Robert Clarke, Jr. who married Sarah Combs. Robt. Clark, Jr. (was a brother to Thomas CLARKE who married Grace GREENWELL). **Yes, they were by the second marriage of Robert Clarke, Sr. to Winifred Seyborn. Robert HUTCHINGS and Frances WILKINSON had a Daughter Catherine HUTCHINGS who married Clarke ABELL son of Cuthbert Abell and Mary CLARKE. **Disagree.  The wife of Clarke Abell (b. 1754) was Catherine Hutchins (b. 1752), daughter of Aquilla Hutchins and wife, Elizabeth _____. I believe Eleanor ? wife Thomas FISH or FISHER was Eleanor CLARKE daughter of Thomas CLARKE and Grace GREENWELL therefore Mary CLARKE who married Cuthbert ABELL would her Sister **Disagree.  There is nothing to indicate that Eleanor, daughter of Thomas Clarke and Grace Greenwell was married by the time of her father's death. Eleanor ____, married first, David Evans, Jr. before 1721 and second, Thomas Fish (not Fisher).  She might be Eleanor Gibbons?? 1/21/1735:  Admin. accts. of David Evans, SMC.  Sureties: Henry Tucker, John Gibbons.  Received from: Joseph Stone, James Watts, John Patchall. Payments to: Capt. John Hicks, Philip Clarke, John Thompson, George Plater, Esq. Distribution to: widow, 1/3.  Residue to (5 children): Hugh, John, Susanna, Judith, and Grace Evans.  Admx: Eleanor Fish, wife of Thomas Fish. Acquilla Hutchings was married to an Elizabeth ? could he have married Elizabeth CLARKE daughter of Abraham CLARKE and 1st wife ELEANOR HEARD? **I doubt it. The dates don't work. Aquilla Hutchins married Elizabeth ___before 1735. Enoch ABELL married JUDITH BOOTH and he was a brother of Cuthbert ABELL who married Mary CLARKE. Another Brother of Cuthbert ABELL was Edward ABELL who married a ? HORNE daughter of John HORNE. another Daughter of John HORNE was Susanna HORNE who married Thomas CLARKE son of Thomas CLARKE and GRACE GREENWELL. Thomas Clarke who married Susanna HORNE was the brother of Mary CLARKE who married Cuthbert ABELL. **Disagree.  I think Enoch Abell (1714-1784), brother of Cuthbert, married Judith Evans, daughter of David Evans, Jr. and wife, Eleanor Gibbons (?) discussed above. From: Linda Reno To: Pete Himmelheber Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:27 AM Subject: Wife of Enoch Abell Everybody seems to think that Enoch Abell was married to Judith Booth.  That assumption is undoubtedly made because she named a son John Booth Abell. Problem is that I can find no documentation that she was a Booth nor was there a John Booth around at the right time. I did some seeking around in my database last night and this morning and am really leaning toward her being ***Judith Evans, daughter of David Evans, Jr. and his wife, Eleanor (and I think she might be ***Eleanor Gibbons, dau. of John Gibbons and wife, Martha).  **(There's a problem with this though as I show Eleanor Gibbons married to Thomas Dement.  See below). Eleanor (Gibbons?), widow of David Evans, Jr., m. second Thomas Fish. Did Enoch Abell, David Evans, Jr. and Thomas Fish live in the same area? This would be the 1720's through the 1760's.  Got any magic in those files? Linda From: P&L Himmelheber To: Linda Reno Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Wife of Enoch Abell Well Close. That is the land that Evans and Fish were associated with. Just down the 3NR from Abells Content and Slipe of Enoch Abell and Abells Chance of Cuthbert Abell. See Chronology and Map. There were many references to the new house of Booth Abell which was in Abells Chance between the 3NR and cutoff. Pete & Lillie Himmelheber -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of clark8178@comcast.net Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:01 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Enoch ABELL and wife Judith Linda Reno, this came from you some time ago. I agree with it. it fits the pattern of what we are discussing. I agree Enoch Abell married Judith Evans not Judith BOOTH. While we're on the subject.... Does anyone have any proof that Judith, wife of Enoch Abell was actually Judith Booth? I believe she is presumed to be because one of her sons was named John Booth Abell. I think she was actually Judith Evans, daughter of David Evans, Jr. and his wife, Eleanor (who m. second, Thomas Fish). Eleanor was somehow related to the family of John Gibbons and his wife, Martha. 1/21/1735: Admin. accts. of David Evans, SMC. Sureties: Henry Tucker, John Gibbons. Received from: Joseph Stone, James Watts, John Patchall. Payments to: Capt. John Hicks, Philip Clarke, John Thompson, George Plater, Esq. Distribution to: widow, 1/3. Residue to (5 children): Hugh, John, Susanna, Judith, and Grace Evans. Admx: Eleanor Fish, wife of Thomas Fish. Admin. accts. of Thomas Fish, 5/31/1753 by Eleanor Fish, Admx.; sureties were Cuthbert Abell and Nathaniel Hickman; 1/3 to widow; Children: Thomas Fish, of full age; Robert Fish, about 15; William, 15; James, about 12; and Joseph, age 9 (Moxey). David Evans, Jr. was the son of David Evans, Sr. who outlived his son. Will of David Evans, SMC, 7/16/1734-3/31/1735. Grandchildren: Isabella Hebb, David Hebb, and Joseph Hebb, personalty. Daughter: Susanna, wife of Henry Tucker, water mill; dwelling plantation to Susanna and the heirs of her body and of her husband, Henry Tucker, her eldest son Benjamin Tucker excepted. Residue of estate to be divided between grandchildren, the children of Henry and Susanna Tucker and of David Evans and his wife, Eleanor. Exec: Henry Tucker, carpenter. Wit: John Heages, John Rigby, John Patshall. Last year, when I first started thinking about this, I wrote to Pete Himmelheber and asked him if these families lived anywhere near each other. I asked him if Enoch Abell, David Evans, Jr. and Thomas Fish lived in the same area in the 1720's through the 1760's. From: P&L Himmelheber To: Linda Reno Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Wife of Enoch Abell "Well Close." That is the land that Evans and Fish were associated with. Just down the 3NR (Three Notch Road) from Abells Content and Slipe of Enoch Abell and Abells Chance of Cuthbert Abell. See Chronology and Map. There were many references to the new house of Booth Abell which was in Abells Chance between the 3NR and cutoff. Pete & Lillie Himmelheber Thoughts? Linda Reno Mary CLARKE who married Cuthbert ABELL had a brother Phillip CLARKE. **I have no record of Philip Clarke, brother of Mary, after 1733.  The Philip Clarke listed above could be Philip, Jr., son of Philip and Hannah Mackall who married Catherine Wilson (she ties back into the Wilkinsons) or Philip III, son of Philip, Jr. **The wife of Nathaniel Hickman was Mary Gibbons, sister of Eleanor Gibbons discussed above.  Notice that Eleanor is called Eleanor Dement in the administrative accounts of her brother Major Gibbons in 1765 and Thomas Dement was the administrator. 8/2/1746:  Admin. accts. of Martha Gibbons, SMC.  Sureties: John Wiseman, John Woodward.  Payments to (among others): Major Gibbons (son of John Gibbons, due from Henry Tucker).  Legal representatives: John Gibbons, Stephen Gibbons, Henry Gibbons, Mager Gibbons, Nathaniel Hickman, William Daves, Eleanor Gibbons, Priscilla Gibbons.  Adm: John Gibbons. 3/5/1765: Admin. accts. of Major Gibbons, SMC.  Appraisers: George Aisquith, Joseph Hopewell.  Creditors: John Gibbins, Eleanor Dement.  Adm: Thomas Dement. 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AH ha! Thank you, Thank you!I never saw that Admin acct before.Is it from Skinner or St. Mary's Co Records? < , |/ < ' /|   Kat Mills   --- On Mon, 2/11/13, Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> wrote: From: Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Enoch ABELL and wife Judith To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 11:14 AM Hi Kat, This is why I think so: 1/13/1712:  Admin. accts. of Edward Fisher, SMC.  NOK:  John Abell and Thomas Beatson (surname should be Batson). 5/13/1714:  Admin. accts. of Edward Fisher, SMC. Payments to: John Abell for his wife (unnamed, a child's part); Thomas Batson for his wife (unnamed, a child's part), Adm., Wm. Thompson (Skinner).  The estate was paid by John Taylor.  The estate made payments to (in addition to the children):  David Watson, Mr. Henry Lowe, and Thomas Price. Linda Reno -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of K Mills Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:14 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Enoch ABELL and wife Judith Lynda, I'm following this closely and on baited breath! Can you fill me in again on your thinking as to why you think John Abell, Sr. married ____ Fisher? I agree that the assumption that Judith was a "Booth" had no foundation I've been able to find, except for the middle name of a son... < , |/ < ' /|     Kat Mills    --- On Mon, 2/11/13, Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> wrote: From: Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Enoch ABELL and wife Judith To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 9:32 AM I'm not finished with this and I have to put it aside for the time being.  These are my comments so far: **Cuthbert Abell was the son of John Abell, Sr. and _____Fisher. Richard OSBOURNE was married to Ann CLARKE Aunt of Robert Clarke Jr. and Half Sister of Robert Clarke Sr. who married Sarah COMBS.  **NO, Robert Clarke, Jr. was the half uncle of Ann Clarke. She was the daughter of John Clarke (son of Robert Clarke, Jr. and his first wife, Eleanor).  Anne's father, John Clarke was a half brother of Robert Clarke, Jr. who married Sarah Combs. Robt. Clark, Jr. (was a brother to Thomas CLARKE who married Grace GREENWELL). **Yes, they were by the second marriage of Robert Clarke, Sr. to Winifred Seyborn. Robert HUTCHINGS and Frances WILKINSON had a Daughter Catherine HUTCHINGS who married Clarke ABELL son of Cuthbert Abell and Mary CLARKE. **Disagree.  The wife of Clarke Abell (b. 1754) was Catherine Hutchins (b. 1752), daughter of Aquilla Hutchins and wife, Elizabeth _____. I believe Eleanor ? wife Thomas FISH or FISHER was Eleanor CLARKE daughter of Thomas CLARKE and Grace GREENWELL therefore Mary CLARKE who married Cuthbert ABELL would her Sister **Disagree.  There is nothing to indicate that Eleanor, daughter of Thomas Clarke and Grace Greenwell was married by the time of her father's death. Eleanor ____, married first, David Evans, Jr. before 1721 and second, Thomas Fish (not Fisher).  She might be Eleanor Gibbons?? 1/21/1735:  Admin. accts. of David Evans, SMC.  Sureties: Henry Tucker, John Gibbons.  Received from: Joseph Stone, James Watts, John Patchall. Payments to: Capt. John Hicks, Philip Clarke, John Thompson, George Plater, Esq. Distribution to: widow, 1/3.  Residue to (5 children): Hugh, John, Susanna, Judith, and Grace Evans.  Admx: Eleanor Fish, wife of Thomas Fish. Acquilla Hutchings was married to an Elizabeth ? could he have married Elizabeth CLARKE daughter of Abraham CLARKE and 1st wife ELEANOR HEARD? **I doubt it. The dates don't work. Aquilla Hutchins married Elizabeth ___before 1735. Enoch ABELL married JUDITH BOOTH and he was a brother of Cuthbert ABELL who married Mary CLARKE. Another Brother of Cuthbert ABELL was Edward ABELL who married a ? HORNE daughter of John HORNE. another Daughter of John HORNE was Susanna HORNE who married Thomas CLARKE son of Thomas CLARKE and GRACE GREENWELL. Thomas Clarke who married Susanna HORNE was the brother of Mary CLARKE who married Cuthbert ABELL. **Disagree.  I think Enoch Abell (1714-1784), brother of Cuthbert, married Judith Evans, daughter of David Evans, Jr. and wife, Eleanor Gibbons (?) discussed above. From: Linda Reno To: Pete Himmelheber Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:27 AM Subject: Wife of Enoch Abell Everybody seems to think that Enoch Abell was married to Judith Booth.  That assumption is undoubtedly made because she named a son John Booth Abell. Problem is that I can find no documentation that she was a Booth nor was there a John Booth around at the right time. I did some seeking around in my database last night and this morning and am really leaning toward her being ***Judith Evans, daughter of David Evans, Jr. and his wife, Eleanor (and I think she might be ***Eleanor Gibbons, dau. of John Gibbons and wife, Martha).  **(There's a problem with this though as I show Eleanor Gibbons married to Thomas Dement.  See below). Eleanor (Gibbons?), widow of David Evans, Jr., m. second Thomas Fish. Did Enoch Abell, David Evans, Jr. and Thomas Fish live in the same area? This would be the 1720's through the 1760's.  Got any magic in those files? Linda From: P&L Himmelheber To: Linda Reno Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Wife of Enoch Abell Well Close. That is the land that Evans and Fish were associated with. Just down the 3NR from Abells Content and Slipe of Enoch Abell and Abells Chance of Cuthbert Abell. See Chronology and Map. There were many references to the new house of Booth Abell which was in Abells Chance between the 3NR and cutoff. Pete & Lillie Himmelheber -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of clark8178@comcast.net Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:01 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Enoch ABELL and wife Judith Linda Reno, this came from you some time ago. I agree with it. it fits the pattern of what we are discussing. I agree Enoch Abell married Judith Evans not Judith BOOTH. While we're on the subject.... Does anyone have any proof that Judith, wife of Enoch Abell was actually Judith Booth? I believe she is presumed to be because one of her sons was named John Booth Abell. I think she was actually Judith Evans, daughter of David Evans, Jr. and his wife, Eleanor (who m. second, Thomas Fish). Eleanor was somehow related to the family of John Gibbons and his wife, Martha. 1/21/1735: Admin. accts. of David Evans, SMC. Sureties: Henry Tucker, John Gibbons. Received from: Joseph Stone, James Watts, John Patchall. Payments to: Capt. John Hicks, Philip Clarke, John Thompson, George Plater, Esq. Distribution to: widow, 1/3. Residue to (5 children): Hugh, John, Susanna, Judith, and Grace Evans. Admx: Eleanor Fish, wife of Thomas Fish. Admin. accts. of Thomas Fish, 5/31/1753 by Eleanor Fish, Admx.; sureties were Cuthbert Abell and Nathaniel Hickman; 1/3 to widow; Children: Thomas Fish, of full age; Robert Fish, about 15; William, 15; James, about 12; and Joseph, age 9 (Moxey). David Evans, Jr. was the son of David Evans, Sr. who outlived his son. Will of David Evans, SMC, 7/16/1734-3/31/1735. Grandchildren: Isabella Hebb, David Hebb, and Joseph Hebb, personalty. Daughter: Susanna, wife of Henry Tucker, water mill; dwelling plantation to Susanna and the heirs of her body and of her husband, Henry Tucker, her eldest son Benjamin Tucker excepted. Residue of estate to be divided between grandchildren, the children of Henry and Susanna Tucker and of David Evans and his wife, Eleanor. Exec: Henry Tucker, carpenter. Wit: John Heages, John Rigby, John Patshall. Last year, when I first started thinking about this, I wrote to Pete Himmelheber and asked him if these families lived anywhere near each other. I asked him if Enoch Abell, David Evans, Jr. and Thomas Fish lived in the same area in the 1720's through the 1760's. From: P&L Himmelheber To: Linda Reno Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Wife of Enoch Abell "Well Close." That is the land that Evans and Fish were associated with. Just down the 3NR (Three Notch Road) from Abells Content and Slipe of Enoch Abell and Abells Chance of Cuthbert Abell. See Chronology and Map. There were many references to the new house of Booth Abell which was in Abells Chance between the 3NR and cutoff. Pete & Lillie Himmelheber Thoughts? Linda Reno Mary CLARKE who married Cuthbert ABELL had a brother Phillip CLARKE. **I have no record of Philip Clarke, brother of Mary, after 1733.  The Philip Clarke listed above could be Philip, Jr., son of Philip and Hannah Mackall who married Catherine Wilson (she ties back into the Wilkinsons) or Philip III, son of Philip, Jr. **The wife of Nathaniel Hickman was Mary Gibbons, sister of Eleanor Gibbons discussed above.  Notice that Eleanor is called Eleanor Dement in the administrative accounts of her brother Major Gibbons in 1765 and Thomas Dement was the administrator. 8/2/1746:  Admin. accts. of Martha Gibbons, SMC.  Sureties: John Wiseman, John Woodward.  Payments to (among others): Major Gibbons (son of John Gibbons, due from Henry Tucker).  Legal representatives: John Gibbons, Stephen Gibbons, Henry Gibbons, Mager Gibbons, Nathaniel Hickman, William Daves, Eleanor Gibbons, Priscilla Gibbons.  Adm: John Gibbons. 3/5/1765: Admin. accts. of Major Gibbons, SMC.  Appraisers: George Aisquith, Joseph Hopewell.  Creditors: John Gibbins, Eleanor Dement.  Adm: Thomas Dement. 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