Thanks Linda After I saw your theory I went thru my land records for both Evans/Abell or Booth/Abell but found nothing. Somewhere I remember an Evans/Abell but think it was in early 1800. Tom On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> wrote: > Tom, > > I saw the message yesterday and now this one. I don't have an explanation. > The problem is we've never found a Judith Booth. If there's a connection > via the Evans family and/or the family of Eleanor, wife of David Evans, > Jr., > that would explain it. > > Linda Reno > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Thomas Jennings > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:37 PM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Fisher and Abell > > Linda, > > I sent a reply yesterday that is lost somewhere on one of those clouds. > > I read your Evans theory but don't find enough evidence to make changes or > to prove either of the two theories. > There is no evidence that Enoch Abell's wife was not a Booth unless Booth > was an earlier line. > How do we explain generations of John Booth Abells and Enoch Booth Abells. > There must be a reason. > > 1/21/1735: Admin. accts. of David Evans, SMC. > Distribution to: widow, 1/3. Residue to (5 children*): Hugh, John, > Susanna,Judith, and Grace Evans.* > > Judith did not name, as far as I know, any of her children: David Grace, > Hugh ..John & Susanna were the Abell line names. > > Is it possible Booth name came from somewhere in the Evans' line? > > Tom > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:15 PM, K Mills <justwannabe_kat@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > AH ha! > > Thank you, Thank you!I never saw that Admin acct before.Is it from > Skinner > > or St. Mary's Co Records? > > > > < , |/ > > < ' /| Kat Mills > > > > --- On Mon, 2/11/13, Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > From: Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Enoch ABELL and wife Judith > > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > > Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 11:14 AM > > > > Hi Kat, > > > > This is why I think so: > > > > 1/13/1712: Admin. accts. of Edward Fisher, SMC. NOK: John Abell and > > Thomas Beatson (surname should be Batson). > > > > 5/13/1714: Admin. accts. of Edward Fisher, SMC. Payments to: John Abell > > for > > his wife (unnamed, a child's part); Thomas Batson for his wife (unnamed, > a > > child's part), Adm., Wm. Thompson (Skinner). The estate was paid by John > > Taylor. The estate made payments to (in addition to the children): > David > > Watson, Mr. Henry Lowe, and Thomas Price. > > > > Linda Reno > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of K Mills > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:14 AM > > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Enoch ABELL and wife Judith > > > > Lynda, > > I'm following this closely and on baited breath! > > Can you fill me in again on your thinking as to why you think John Abell, > > Sr. married ____ Fisher? > > I agree that the assumption that Judith was a "Booth" had no foundation > > I've > > been able to find, except for the middle name of a son... > > > > < , |/ > > < ' /| Kat Mills > > > > --- On Mon, 2/11/13, Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > From: Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Enoch ABELL and wife Judith > > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > > Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 9:32 AM > > > > I'm not finished with this and I have to put it aside for the time being. > > > > These are my comments so far: > > > > **Cuthbert Abell was the son of John Abell, Sr. and _____Fisher. > > > > Richard OSBOURNE was married to Ann CLARKE Aunt of Robert Clarke Jr. and > > Half Sister of Robert Clarke Sr. who married Sarah COMBS. > > > > **NO, Robert Clarke, Jr. was the half uncle of Ann Clarke. She was the > > daughter of John Clarke (son of Robert Clarke, Jr. and his first wife, > > Eleanor). Anne's father, John Clarke was a half brother of Robert > Clarke, > > Jr. who married Sarah Combs. > > > > Robt. Clark, Jr. (was a brother to Thomas CLARKE who married Grace > > GREENWELL). > > > > **Yes, they were by the second marriage of Robert Clarke, Sr. to Winifred > > Seyborn. > > > > Robert HUTCHINGS and Frances WILKINSON had a Daughter Catherine HUTCHINGS > > who married Clarke ABELL son of Cuthbert Abell and Mary CLARKE. > > > > **Disagree. The wife of Clarke Abell (b. 1754) was Catherine Hutchins > (b. > > 1752), daughter of Aquilla Hutchins and wife, Elizabeth _____. > > > > I believe Eleanor ? wife Thomas FISH or FISHER was Eleanor CLARKE > daughter > > of Thomas CLARKE and Grace GREENWELL therefore Mary CLARKE who married > > Cuthbert ABELL would her Sister > > > > **Disagree. There is nothing to indicate that Eleanor, daughter of > Thomas > > Clarke and Grace Greenwell was married by the time of her father's death. > > Eleanor ____, married first, David Evans, Jr. before 1721 and second, > > Thomas > > Fish (not Fisher). She might be Eleanor Gibbons?? > > > > 1/21/1735: Admin. accts. of David Evans, SMC. Sureties: Henry Tucker, > > John > > Gibbons. Received from: Joseph Stone, James Watts, John Patchall. > Payments > > to: Capt. John Hicks, Philip Clarke, John Thompson, George Plater, Esq. > > Distribution to: widow, 1/3. Residue to (5 children): Hugh, John, > Susanna, > > Judith, and Grace Evans. Admx: Eleanor Fish, wife of Thomas Fish. > > > > Acquilla Hutchings was married to an Elizabeth ? could he have married > > Elizabeth CLARKE daughter of Abraham CLARKE and 1st wife ELEANOR HEARD? > > > > **I doubt it. The dates don't work. Aquilla Hutchins married Elizabeth > > ___before 1735. > > > > Enoch ABELL married JUDITH BOOTH and he was a brother of Cuthbert ABELL > who > > married Mary CLARKE. Another Brother of Cuthbert ABELL was Edward ABELL > who > > married a ? HORNE daughter of John HORNE. another Daughter of John HORNE > > was > > Susanna HORNE who married Thomas CLARKE son of Thomas CLARKE and GRACE > > GREENWELL. Thomas Clarke who married Susanna HORNE was the brother of > Mary > > CLARKE who married Cuthbert ABELL. > > > > **Disagree. I think Enoch Abell (1714-1784), brother of Cuthbert, > married > > Judith Evans, daughter of David Evans, Jr. and wife, Eleanor Gibbons (?) > > discussed above. > > > > From: Linda Reno > > To: Pete Himmelheber > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:27 AM > > Subject: Wife of Enoch Abell > > > > Everybody seems to think that Enoch Abell was married to Judith Booth. > > That > > assumption is undoubtedly made because she named a son John Booth Abell. > > Problem is that I can find no documentation that she was a Booth nor was > > there a John Booth around at the right time. > > > > I did some seeking around in my database last night and this morning and > am > > really leaning toward her being ***Judith Evans, daughter of David Evans, > > Jr. and his wife, Eleanor (and I think she might be ***Eleanor Gibbons, > > dau. > > of John Gibbons and wife, Martha). **(There's a problem with this though > > as > > I show Eleanor Gibbons married to Thomas Dement. See below). > > > > Eleanor (Gibbons?), widow of David Evans, Jr., m. second Thomas Fish. > > > > Did Enoch Abell, David Evans, Jr. and Thomas Fish live in the same area? > > This would be the 1720's through the 1760's. Got any magic in those > files? > > > > Linda > > > > From: P&L Himmelheber > > To: Linda Reno > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:49 PM > > Subject: Re: Wife of Enoch Abell > > > > Well Close. That is the land that Evans and Fish were associated with. > Just > > down the 3NR from Abells Content and Slipe of Enoch Abell and Abells > Chance > > of Cuthbert Abell. See Chronology and Map. > > > > There were many references to the new house of Booth Abell which was in > > Abells Chance between the 3NR and cutoff. > > > > Pete & Lillie Himmelheber > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of clark8178@comcast.net > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:01 AM > > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Enoch ABELL and wife Judith > > > > Linda Reno, > > > > this came from you some time ago. I agree with it. it fits the pattern of > > what we are discussing. I agree Enoch Abell married Judith Evans not > Judith > > BOOTH. > > > > > > While we're on the subject.... > > > > Does anyone have any proof that Judith, wife of Enoch Abell was actually > > Judith Booth? I believe she is presumed to be because one of her sons was > > named John Booth Abell. > > > > I think she was actually Judith Evans, daughter of David Evans, Jr. and > his > > wife, Eleanor (who m. second, Thomas Fish). Eleanor was somehow related > to > > the family of John Gibbons and his wife, Martha. > > > > 1/21/1735: Admin. accts. of David Evans, SMC. Sureties: Henry Tucker, > John > > Gibbons. Received from: Joseph Stone, James Watts, John Patchall. > Payments > > to: Capt. John Hicks, Philip Clarke, John Thompson, George Plater, Esq. > > Distribution to: widow, 1/3. Residue to (5 children): Hugh, John, > Susanna, > > Judith, and Grace Evans. Admx: Eleanor Fish, wife of Thomas Fish. > > > > Admin. accts. of Thomas Fish, 5/31/1753 by Eleanor Fish, Admx.; sureties > > were Cuthbert Abell and Nathaniel Hickman; 1/3 to widow; Children: Thomas > > Fish, of full age; Robert Fish, about 15; William, 15; James, about 12; > and > > Joseph, age 9 (Moxey). > > > > David Evans, Jr. was the son of David Evans, Sr. who outlived his son. > > > > Will of David Evans, SMC, 7/16/1734-3/31/1735. Grandchildren: Isabella > > Hebb, > > David Hebb, and Joseph Hebb, personalty. Daughter: Susanna, wife of Henry > > Tucker, water mill; dwelling plantation to Susanna and the heirs of her > > body > > and of her husband, Henry Tucker, her eldest son Benjamin Tucker > excepted. > > Residue of estate to be divided between grandchildren, the children of > > Henry > > and Susanna Tucker and of David Evans and his wife, Eleanor. Exec: Henry > > Tucker, carpenter. Wit: John Heages, John Rigby, John Patshall. > > > > Last year, when I first started thinking about this, I wrote to Pete > > Himmelheber and asked him if these families lived anywhere near each > other. > > I asked him if Enoch Abell, David Evans, Jr. and Thomas Fish lived in the > > same area in the 1720's through the 1760's. > > > > From: P&L Himmelheber > > To: Linda Reno > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:49 PM > > Subject: Re: Wife of Enoch Abell > > > > "Well Close." That is the land that Evans and Fish were associated with. > > Just down the 3NR (Three Notch Road) from Abells Content and Slipe of > Enoch > > Abell and Abells Chance of Cuthbert Abell. See Chronology and Map. > > > > There were many references to the new house of Booth Abell which was in > > Abells Chance between the 3NR and cutoff. > > > > Pete & Lillie Himmelheber > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Linda Reno > > > > Mary CLARKE who married Cuthbert ABELL had a brother Phillip CLARKE. > > > > **I have no record of Philip Clarke, brother of Mary, after 1733. The > > Philip Clarke listed above could be Philip, Jr., son of Philip and Hannah > > Mackall who married Catherine Wilson (she ties back into the Wilkinsons) > or > > Philip III, son of Philip, Jr. > > > > **The wife of Nathaniel Hickman was Mary Gibbons, sister of Eleanor > Gibbons > > discussed above. Notice that Eleanor is called Eleanor Dement in the > > administrative accounts of her brother Major Gibbons in 1765 and Thomas > > Dement was the administrator. > > > > 8/2/1746: Admin. accts. of Martha Gibbons, SMC. Sureties: John Wiseman, > > John Woodward. Payments to (among others): Major Gibbons (son of John > > Gibbons, due from Henry Tucker). Legal representatives: John Gibbons, > > Stephen Gibbons, Henry Gibbons, Mager Gibbons, Nathaniel Hickman, William > > Daves, Eleanor Gibbons, Priscilla Gibbons. Adm: John Gibbons. > > > > 3/5/1765: Admin. accts. of Major Gibbons, SMC. Appraisers: George > > Aisquith, > > Joseph Hopewell. Creditors: John Gibbins, Eleanor Dement. 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