Hello again. I have checked my files and know of no other contemporary "Joshua Neale." However, if the date of the Will is correct, the Joshua Neale who was the son of Charles Neale of James could not have been the witness to the Will. Charles Neale of James was not born himself until 1770. Interesting. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:05 AM, John Dobricky <john.dobricky@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. Joshua Neale was the son of Charles Neale "of James" and Mary > Maryman. I have lots of information about that family as I am a > descendant of Mary Ann Neale (daughter of Charles Neale of James and > Mary Maryman)--she married Philip D. Tippett. John Dobricky > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:58 AM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: tnking >> Surnames: Neale, Morgan, Clarke, Payne, Maryman >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.stmarys/4596/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> I am trying to determine if the Joshua Neale, who married Sarah Mary Clarke (nee Payne), was the son of Charles Neale of James (1770-1845) and Mary Maryman (1769-1822). >> >> I came across a mention of a Joshua Neale in "Proceedings of the Orphan's Court of St. Mary's County, Maryland, Book IV-A, Nov. 1826 - Dec 1829)," transcribed, compiled & indexed by Claude G. Blackwell on page 36: >> >> "CLARKE, William; Aug 1829; page 175; On application of Joshua Neale the court appoints him guardian to John T. Neale his son, who is one of the legal representatives of his deceased brother in law, William Clarke." >> >> If I am reading this correctly, then this Joshua Neale had a son, John T. Neale, who was a half-brother of William Clarke, the son of Zachariah Clarke and Sarah Payne. John T. would have been born between 1815 and 1819. (Joshua and Sarah married 3/28/1815 and Sarah died about 2/19/1819.) >> >> Earlier volumes of Blackwell's "Proceedings of the Orphan's Court" show Joshua Neale and his wife as the administrator of Zachariah Clarke's estate and Joshua as the administrator of William Clarke's estate. >> >> The earliest reference I have for a Joshua Neale comes in 1804, when a Joshua Neale witnessed the will of John Thompson (Liber: JJ #3 Folio: 82, Date of will 10/27/1804, Date of probate: 12/31/1804). >> >> Charles and Mary Neale's son, Joshua would have been about 12 years old, which seems too young to witness a will. Sarah was also 17 years older than this Joshua, although their ages doesn't preclude a marriage between them. Joshua did not marry Ann M. Morgan until about five months after Sarah's death, so there would be no overlap between these marriages either. >> >> Does anyone have any information on another Joshua Neale, who was alive in 1829 or on a John T. Neale? >> >> Note: This would be a third Joshua Neale since Joshua Neale and Ann M. Morgan had a son Joshua A. Neale (abt. 1823 to abt. 1869), who married Juliann Payne (abt. 1818 to aft. 1863). >> >> I appreciate help anyone can provide. >> >> Tom King >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again.....one more thought.......Joshua Neale (son of Charles Neale of James and Mary Maryman) was named for Mary Maryman's father, Joshua Maryman (d. 1798 in SMC). I know the Neales pretty well. Not only do I not know of an earlier Joshua Neale, I don't know of any reason (in terms of naming practices) why there would have been an earlier Joshua Neale. Are you sure "Neale" was the surname of the witness to the Will? John D. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:34 PM, John Dobricky <john.dobricky@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello again. I have checked my files and know of no other > contemporary "Joshua Neale." However, if the date of the Will is > correct, the Joshua Neale who was the son of Charles Neale of James > could not have been the witness to the Will. Charles Neale of James > was not born himself until 1770. Interesting. > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:05 AM, John Dobricky <john.dobricky@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi. Joshua Neale was the son of Charles Neale "of James" and Mary >> Maryman. I have lots of information about that family as I am a >> descendant of Mary Ann Neale (daughter of Charles Neale of James and >> Mary Maryman)--she married Philip D. Tippett. John Dobricky >> >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:58 AM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com >> <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>> >>> Author: tnking >>> Surnames: Neale, Morgan, Clarke, Payne, Maryman >>> Classification: queries >>> >>> Message Board URL: >>> >>> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.stmarys/4596/mb.ashx >>> >>> Message Board Post: >>> >>> I am trying to determine if the Joshua Neale, who married Sarah Mary Clarke (nee Payne), was the son of Charles Neale of James (1770-1845) and Mary Maryman (1769-1822). >>> >>> I came across a mention of a Joshua Neale in "Proceedings of the Orphan's Court of St. Mary's County, Maryland, Book IV-A, Nov. 1826 - Dec 1829)," transcribed, compiled & indexed by Claude G. Blackwell on page 36: >>> >>> "CLARKE, William; Aug 1829; page 175; On application of Joshua Neale the court appoints him guardian to John T. Neale his son, who is one of the legal representatives of his deceased brother in law, William Clarke." >>> >>> If I am reading this correctly, then this Joshua Neale had a son, John T. Neale, who was a half-brother of William Clarke, the son of Zachariah Clarke and Sarah Payne. John T. would have been born between 1815 and 1819. (Joshua and Sarah married 3/28/1815 and Sarah died about 2/19/1819.) >>> >>> Earlier volumes of Blackwell's "Proceedings of the Orphan's Court" show Joshua Neale and his wife as the administrator of Zachariah Clarke's estate and Joshua as the administrator of William Clarke's estate. >>> >>> The earliest reference I have for a Joshua Neale comes in 1804, when a Joshua Neale witnessed the will of John Thompson (Liber: JJ #3 Folio: 82, Date of will 10/27/1804, Date of probate: 12/31/1804). >>> >>> Charles and Mary Neale's son, Joshua would have been about 12 years old, which seems too young to witness a will. Sarah was also 17 years older than this Joshua, although their ages doesn't preclude a marriage between them. Joshua did not marry Ann M. Morgan until about five months after Sarah's death, so there would be no overlap between these marriages either. >>> >>> Does anyone have any information on another Joshua Neale, who was alive in 1829 or on a John T. Neale? >>> >>> Note: This would be a third Joshua Neale since Joshua Neale and Ann M. Morgan had a son Joshua A. Neale (abt. 1823 to abt. 1869), who married Juliann Payne (abt. 1818 to aft. 1863). >>> >>> I appreciate help anyone can provide. >>> >>> Tom King >>> >>> Important Note: >>> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message